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moderated Re: Accesible Twitter Applications

sardar shankar
 

I too use twblue but it misses out on certain functions like playing
videos from a tweet, viewing threads, viewing replies to a tweet,
not so useful autocomplition for tags and users, no way to view
notifications etc. please correct me if i'm wrong in any of these!

On 6/4/20, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:
Hello all,

A few Twitter questions.

Why would one use a Twitter app as opposed to Twitter.com?

I have a Twitter account and have been accessing it with Twitter.com and IE.
Today I tried to log in, but couldn’t at all. I used Google Chrome and got
in, but now everything is different. I can’t find many of the items I used
to be able to read before, such as how many tweets I’ve sent, how many
people I follow, and how many followers I have. I also can’t find the place
that lists followers and the place where I can follow someone.

Is this a Jaws problem? If so, how can I fix it? If not, where can I go to
find out how to make the information readable again?

Many thanks.

Marilyn

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Munn
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accesible Twitter Applications

Dear Listers, hope you are well. I'm sending this email just want to ask
whether if there is an Application that allow me to Access Twitter besides
using the Mainstream Twitter.com. I'm soon going to be a broadcaster and in
my show, I would like to interact with my listeners. Unorder to do that, I
need to find an accessible Twitter program that enable me to quickly scan
each post at a very quick manner. If y'all know a program like this, Please
let me know
TIA.
Best regards
Michael Munn





moderated Another question for Webex users

Edward Green
 

Hi all,

Like others on the list, I have to use the Webex Meetings app.

Is there a hotkey to toggle my video on and off? In our meetings we are asked to turn off our videos when not speaking.

Cheers,

Ed


moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Steven Hicks
 

Strange as mine won’t read that box but I am running Microsoft Outlook 2016 retail, that could be the difference.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: 03 June 2020 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Bill,

I can, in fact, edit in the box.  For example, I needed to update a small item in the signature I use for this list.  I navigated to the box and made the tweak right there. JAWS read everything in that box. To prove my point to myself, I just went there now and created a brand new signature from scratch within the box and it worked just fine.  My point was that, because I am often including hyperlinks in my signatures, I  prefer to build the original layout in the email, then copy and paste it into the edit box. I can then edit from there.

 

I am using the February  release of JAWS 2020 and Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776 on my company laptop.  I know I have seen this issue several of you are referencing, it’s just not currently an issue for me. I’ll have  to go see how this works on my personal laptop running a similar setup.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

That's what everyone is saying, Robin. You should be able to edit the signature field while you are in it. You shouldn't need to format the signature in Word, the email body, or somewhere else. The fact that you need to format the signature somewhere else says explicitly that the edit box is inaccessible.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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moderated Page Refreshing

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Hi,

I use Edge Chromium and haven’’t had any trouble with the page refreshing.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Marty Hutchings
 

Now, that is accessible in Windows Live Mail.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook
 
Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.
Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?


Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."


Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

SCCB_logoblue

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated Re: cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Marty Hutchings
 

You got me curious, so I checked to see if this would work in Windows Live Mail, but the answer is no.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 2:16 PM
Subject: cool trick with signatures in Outlook
 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: Accesible Twitter Applications

marilyn
 

Hello all,

 

A few Twitter questions.

 

Why would one use a Twitter app as opposed to Twitter.com?

 

I have a Twitter account and have been accessing it with Twitter.com and IE. Today I tried to log in, but couldn’t at all. I used Google Chrome and got in, but now everything is different. I can’t find many of the items I used to be able to read before, such as how many tweets I’ve sent, how many people I follow, and how many followers I have. I also can’t find the place that lists followers and the place where I can follow someone.

 

Is this a Jaws problem? If so, how can I fix it? If not, where can I go to find out how to make the information readable again?

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accesible Twitter Applications

 

Dear Listers, hope you are well. I'm sending this email just want to ask whether if there is an Application that allow me to Access Twitter besides using the Mainstream Twitter.com. I'm soon going to be a broadcaster  and in my show, I would like to interact with my listeners. Unorder to do that, I need to find an accessible Twitter program that enable me to quickly scan each post at a very quick manner. If y'all know a program  like this, Please let me know

TIA.  

Best regards 

Michael Munn 


moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Steven Hicks
 

Hi,

 

I Found a work around, glad you mentioned this though.

If you type your signature in something like notepad, it may work in Microsoft Word, check it is all o.k.

You can highlight it all with ctrl+a and then paist it in to Microsoft Outlook in the new signature box.  It won’t read it back but you can then send yourself a test message to make sure it is o.k.

Check the options for the signature when it is added e.g. for new messages and replies, I don’t add it on to replys.

 

Hope this helps?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 03 June 2020 20:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 



On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

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moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Bill, I assumed it would be the same. I’ll check again. Thanks.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. Unlike your earlier result, when I opened Firefox, Pressed INSERT plus V, and entered refresh into the search box, I got a result for page refresh. There are three options here, Automatic, every 25 seconds, and Never.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi Bill,

 

I just read your message. I use both Firefox and IE. It’s hard to let go of IE. The problem also happens when reading email—but I think there’s a reason for that since I am using Gmail but importing it to Windows Mail. That probably slows things down.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. Which browser are you using? I probably have the browser you are using on my machine. I'll try the search result, once I know which browser you are using.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Bill, Thanks. But when I follow your instructions, I can’t find “refresh.” I get the message “no results found.” I went down line by line and still do not see what you mentioned.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Bill White
 

Hi, Shirley. Unlike your earlier result, when I opened Firefox, Pressed INSERT plus V, and entered refresh into the search box, I got a result for page refresh. There are three options here, Automatic, every 25 seconds, and Never.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi Bill,

 

I just read your message. I use both Firefox and IE. It’s hard to let go of IE. The problem also happens when reading email—but I think there’s a reason for that since I am using Gmail but importing it to Windows Mail. That probably slows things down.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. Which browser are you using? I probably have the browser you are using on my machine. I'll try the search result, once I know which browser you are using.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Bill, Thanks. But when I follow your instructions, I can’t find “refresh.” I get the message “no results found.” I went down line by line and still do not see what you mentioned.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Bill,

 

I just read your message. I use both Firefox and IE. It’s hard to let go of IE. The problem also happens when reading email—but I think there’s a reason for that since I am using Gmail but importing it to Windows Mail. That probably slows things down.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. Which browser are you using? I probably have the browser you are using on my machine. I'll try the search result, once I know which browser you are using.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Bill, Thanks. But when I follow your instructions, I can’t find “refresh.” I get the message “no results found.” I went down line by line and still do not see what you mentioned.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 


moderated Re: Question for other Webex meeting users

Abraham Sweiss
 

Have you tried installing the webex a app on your desktop?

Thanks,abraham 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



We use Cisco Webex at my company.  I’ve had a frustration that I wonder if any other users have experience and have thoughts on. 

 

When I  click on a link to a meeting, my browser (Chrome), will open.  The meeting screen will load.  I will often hear JAWS say something like, “You are having trouble with the connection”, but pretty soon I can tab around some of the features, including the participant list.  I have enough vision to see that a window has popped up where the audio & video connection information is.  It used to be that focus would land in that window and I could tab through the options on where to  do my audio connection, then I would click the Audio Connection button for Webex to call my phone.  After some upgrade a while back, I typically cannot get focus into that window.  As I tab around the initial screen that loads, I’ll hear something called audio Connection checked, but hitting this doesn’t seem to do anything.  I hear reference to a “floating panel”, but cannot seem to get to it. My current workaround is that I go to the audio menu with Alt A and open the audio & video connection window from there.   This can take precious time when I’m about to run late to a meeting.    

 

Anyone else have a similar issue?

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated unable to backspace or delete text in Windows Live Mail

T. Civitello
 

I am using the current version of Jaws 2020 and Win 7 and Windows Live Mail.
When composing a message and I make a mistake I can’t back space to delete it or select it and press delete. Sometimes if I unload Jaws and start it again things will return to normal. The other way to get around it is to select what I want to delete, bring up the context menu and click on “cut”.
Is this a Jaws bug?   Does anyone know what could be causing this? Tom
This appears to be a random condition as I had no problem with this message, and yes the program is maximized.


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Richard Turner
 

I did not need to do a Jaws repair.

I just went into my printer/scanner settings and opened the scanner properties and closed them again.

That must have been enough of a kick in the behind for it to be seen the next time I ran the Jaws OCR using my scanner.

 

 

 

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi,

  You had Twain right except that the “I” stands for Informative . 

Also, with the latest Windows 10 update the JAWS OCR may not work properly and a JAWS repair may be needed.  This happened to me and JAWS could not see the scanner even though OpenBook still detected the scanner. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

I just checked my Windows 10 scanner, and after doing the keystroke to scan a document with Jaws OCR it took a couple of minutes for the list to populate and show the Epson Perfection WIA option.  When someone is referring to a, TWAIN driver, it's the, WIA driver option you will see in Openbook if OB were installed.

Below are what the acronym TWAIN supposedly stands for:

 TWAIN literally means a, Tool Without an Interesting Name, or technology without an interesting name.

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Please remind me as to how to check that.  I am using Windows 7.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Does this HP all in one has a Twain Driver or does it just use the HP software?

I’m not sure the Jaws Convenient OCR would see it if it has some other software that drives it.

 

You might want to check for a Twain driver.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Marty,

 

To be honest I've never run into this issue you've encountered.  Is your printer scanner set as the default?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:32 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike, this is the message that I get.

“OCR failed to start.  No supported scanners or cameras available.”

There is no list to arrow through.

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

So, when you invoke the, Insert + spacebar, then press the letter, O , then pressing the letter, A , your HP scanner isn't in the scanner and camera list?  What does show in the list of options?  Have you tried using left & right arrow keys as well as the up and down arrow keys?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 10:06 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike,  Thanks for this.  I was not aware that this was possible.  When I tried to acquire a document, I got a message saying that there were no scanners or cameras available.  I have a HP Photo Smart all in 1 printer/scanner connected.  How do I get JAWS to recognize it?

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:44 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.

 

How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM

Subject: Jaws And Open Book

 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

David Goldfield
 


I might be able to shed some light on this issue. Outlook 2016's edit field for signatures was completely inaccessible with screen readers. However, this
problem was addressed in the 365 version of Outlook and, presumably, in Outlook 2019.

When I was using Outlook 2016 I worked around this by composing my signature in Microsoft Word. Once I was certain that the signature contained the text
that I wanted I would press ctrl-A to select the entire text of the signature and then press ctrl-C to copy the signature to the clipboard. Next, I would
open Outlook 2016, go into the signature edit field, press control-A to select all of the text and then press ctrl-V to paste my newly written signature
into the edit field.

To verify that the signature was what I really wanted I would begin composing a message and then arrow down through the message body to examine the signature.

Hope that helps.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 5:12 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
block quote cited from mid:MWHPR17MB1981411D9C17AC519521808CB7880@...
I just discovered here on my home laptop, I can indeed edit signatures just fine.

So, my hat’s off to Microsoft and you for pointing this out.

Now to try it on my work laptop.

I was tired of my old signature anyway.

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

From:
main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:04 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Richard,

Yes.  No problem.  But I know I’ve had your frustration, I just don’t know what changed for me.  I was just pushed an office update here at work last week
to Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776

From:
main@jfw.groups.io
 <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:41 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the
first line and that is it.

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

I could I suppose have created an  entirely new signature, but that was not what I neded for work.

Very interesting.

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

From:
main@jfw.groups.io
 <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.
This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as
I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this
list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

From:
main@jfw.groups.io
 <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com

block quote
On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <
Steve.Cook@...>
wrote:
block quote end

block quote


You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

SCCB logo

www.sccb.state.sc.us

From:
main@jfw.groups.io
 <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (
jfw@groups.io)
<
jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought
we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in
any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for
you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

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moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Richard Turner
 

I just discovered here on my home laptop, I can indeed edit signatures just fine.

So, my hat’s off to Microsoft and you for pointing this out.

Now to try it on my work laptop.

I was tired of my old signature anyway.

 

 

Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

Yes.  No problem.  But I know I’ve had your frustration, I just don’t know what changed for me.  I was just pushed an office update here at work last week to Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

 

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

 

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

I could I suppose have created an  entirely new signature, but that was not what I neded for work.

 

Very interesting.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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moderated Re: Question for other Webex meeting users

Van Lant, Robin
 

Sean,

My concern is after I’ve joined the screen sharing portion of the meeting.  I’ll definitely write to the Cisco team, just wanted to see if anyone else had my issue or if is user error.  I’m thinking its’ something with the floating panel and the timing of other things on the screen happening hat JAWS just doesn’t get focus to the right place unless I reopen that pane from the top menu system. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Question for other Webex meeting users

 

Yes and i wait a little while to see the join button

 

 

Send your query to Accessibility@... and raise the issues 

 

 

My experience is the part 



On 4 Jun 2020, at 5:07 am, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



We use Cisco Webex at my company.  I’ve had a frustration that I wonder if any other users have experience and have thoughts on. 

 

When I  click on a link to a meeting, my browser (Chrome), will open.  The meeting screen will load.  I will often hear JAWS say something like, “You are having trouble with the connection”, but pretty soon I can tab around some of the features, including the participant list.  I have enough vision to see that a window has popped up where the audio & video connection information is.  It used to be that focus would land in that window and I could tab through the options on where to  do my audio connection, then I would click the Audio Connection button for Webex to call my phone.  After some upgrade a while back, I typically cannot get focus into that window.  As I tab around the initial screen that loads, I’ll hear something called audio Connection checked, but hitting this doesn’t seem to do anything.  I hear reference to a “floating panel”, but cannot seem to get to it. My current workaround is that I go to the audio menu with Alt A and open the audio & video connection window from there.   This can take precious time when I’m about to run late to a meeting.    

 

Anyone else have a similar issue?

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

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moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Van Lant, Robin
 

Richard,

Yes.  No problem.  But I know I’ve had your frustration, I just don’t know what changed for me.  I was just pushed an office update here at work last week to Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

 

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

 

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

I could I suppose have created an  entirely new signature, but that was not what I neded for work.

 

Very interesting.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Van Lant, Robin
 

Bill,

I can, in fact, edit in the box.  For example, I needed to update a small item in the signature I use for this list.  I navigated to the box and made the tweak right there. JAWS read everything in that box. To prove my point to myself, I just went there now and created a brand new signature from scratch within the box and it worked just fine.  My point was that, because I am often including hyperlinks in my signatures, I  prefer to build the original layout in the email, then copy and paste it into the edit box. I can then edit from there.

 

I am using the February  release of JAWS 2020 and Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776 on my company laptop.  I know I have seen this issue several of you are referencing, it’s just not currently an issue for me. I’ll have  to go see how this works on my personal laptop running a similar setup.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

That's what everyone is saying, Robin. You should be able to edit the signature field while you are in it. You shouldn't need to format the signature in Word, the email body, or somewhere else. The fact that you need to format the signature somewhere else says explicitly that the edit box is inaccessible.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Richard Turner
 

Bill, you are far more trusting of that process than I am.
It is just such a pain to not be able to confirm independently that everything is deleted and then that the new stuff pasted in correctly without then going and starting a new message to then proof the signature.
But, sighted folks are in the same boat if they want to use a graphic in their signature. They cannot see it until they write a new message; it does not show the graphic in that edit box.
We just changed up the logo used at work for everyone's signature and imagine the surprise by the sighted staff when they discovered that.
O well.



Richard

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On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Richard. I have been able to use CONTROL plus A to select all text within the signature box, and then put in any new information. Even though the signature box does not read the content, CONTROL plus A should allow selection of the entire content of the dialog box, thus making it easily deletable by using the delete key one time, after the entire content of the signature box has been selected.

 

Bill White

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

 

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

 

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

I could I suppose have created an  entirely new signature, but that was not what I neded for work.

 

Very interesting.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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