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Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Patrick Johnson
 

Randy,

Thanks for the step by step process it worked like a charm.

Patrick

On 9/18/17, Randy Barnett <randy@soundtique.net> wrote:
Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws
Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow
through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as
you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the
beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message
Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick






Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

well, I feel stupid. :) I figured out what i did wrong. I was in Thunderbird settings. LOL. :)
Then I switched to the described method below...

On 9/18/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
As you so nicely demonstrated with the Jaws speech history, here is my example:

I type Control+6, then do a Jaws Key+T and here is the speech history and what keystrokes I typed:
JAWS Settings Center - Outlook - I now press Control+Shift+D and again check the title bar:
JAWS Settings Center - Default (All Applications) - I now am in the search box and type "Wrap":
Wrap Navigation, 1 of 3 Search Results
3 Search Results List box
Wrap Navigation checked - there are two more which have the word "wrap" in the title.
Web / HTML / PDFs
Navigation
- I tab into the explanation field:
Read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message
OK Button

Once you tab from the search edit field into the list of 3 results the first one is the one you want, pressing the spacebar will toggle the checkbox off, then tab to OK and activate it.
Obviously once y

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

when I typed wrap nothing showed up... no combo of page page wwrap or wrap resulted in anything showing up.

On 9/18/2017 7:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Here is the quick way:press Jaws Key+6 on the number row, press Control+Shift+D to make sure you are in default.
Now type "wrap" in the search box, tab once and you are there.

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick









Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

 

Given the amount of settings in Jaws which allow you to customize things the search box in the Jaws Settings Centre is super useful and even stuff where I know in which category it is in I usually just type something to narrow it down to a few options.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

when I typed wrap nothing showed up... no combo of page page wwrap or wrap resulted in anything showing up.

On 9/18/2017 7:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Here is the quick way:press Jaws Key+6 on the number row, press Control+Shift+D to make sure you are in default.
Now type "wrap" in the search box, tab once and you are there.

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick







Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

 

As you so nicely demonstrated with the Jaws speech history, here is my example:

I type Control+6, then do a Jaws Key+T and here is the speech history and what keystrokes I typed:
JAWS Settings Center - Outlook - I now press Control+Shift+D and again check the title bar:
JAWS Settings Center - Default (All Applications) - I now am in the search box and type "Wrap":
Wrap Navigation, 1 of 3 Search Results
3 Search Results List box
Wrap Navigation checked - there are two more which have the word "wrap" in the title.
Web / HTML / PDFs Navigation- I tab into the explanation field:
Read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message
OK Button

Once you tab from the search edit field into the list of 3 results the first one is the one you want, pressing the spacebar will toggle the checkbox off, then tab to OK and activate it.
Obviously once y

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

when I typed wrap nothing showed up... no combo of page page wwrap or wrap resulted in anything showing up.

On 9/18/2017 7:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Here is the quick way:press Jaws Key+6 on the number row, press Control+Shift+D to make sure you are in default.
Now type "wrap" in the search box, tab once and you are there.

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick







Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

when I typed wrap nothing showed up... no combo of page page wwrap or wrap resulted in anything showing up.

On 9/18/2017 7:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Here is the quick way:press Jaws Key+6 on the number row, press Control+Shift+D to make sure you are in default.
Now type "wrap" in the search box, tab once and you are there.

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick






Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

 

Here is the quick way:press Jaws Key+6 on the number row, press Control+Shift+D to make sure you are in default.
Now type "wrap" in the search box, tab once and you are there.

Regards,

Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice.
You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables.
This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick



Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

Dave Mitchell
 

Greetings,  Could someone please provide a  link to the full text of a tutorial for Windows 10 with JAWS 

Thanks, Dave Mitchell   

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Number of Jaws Quirks With Word

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

To reade the status line which gives the info is

Laptop in word
Caps lock and page down will read the entire info of the status line.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Wolk
Sent: September 17, 2017 6:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of Jaws Quirks With Word

Thanks. I use a laptop. Do you know how to do this on a laptop without a numpad?

On 9/17/17, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Laura,

Welcome ...... My name is also Laura (smile). I'm fairly new to this
list and am not very tech savvy either. I hope the little bit of
information listed below will be helpful to you.

I use Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016. When I press insert + dot on the numb
pad (dot is the key to the right of insert) Jaws will say the current
line I'm on. When I press insert + 3 on the numb pad Jaws will say
the current page I'm on ...... Example; if you have a five page
document and you're on page 3, by pressing insert + 3 Jaws will say "page 3 of 5".

Laura



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laura Wolk
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of Jaws Quirks With Word

Hello,

I have just subscribed to the list, so apologies if any of this has
been covered before. I am a longtime jaws user, but am not super tech
savvy. A number of recent Jaws issues between jaws 18 and Microsoft
word 2013 (particularly in the footnotes). Some bu tont all issues
also involve my rather old but recently tuned up Focus 40. The same
issues are happening on both my laptop (running windows 7) and my work desktop (running windows 10).
I would truly appreciate help with any of the following. I have tried
calling VFO Group but the recent hurricane has caused them to have
staffing issues, and the one woman I did speak with said she had "no
familiarity at all" with footnotes.
Feel free to contact me offlist if these are too trivial for listserv
traffic.

1. Jaws used to read me the number of the footnote both above the line
and below the line. It now only reads the number above the line. When
I am down navigating in the footnotes, or when I am scrolling using
the arrows or say all mode, it no longer announces the footnote number
hwen reading the first line of each footnote. It will tell me if I
hopver over the first character of the first line.

2. Similarly, I am having issues with line numbering, which can be
helpful when multiple people are editing the same document. The
feature is on, but Jaws is not announcing the line numbers. Honestly,
I don't necessarily
**want** it to announce each line number all the time, but I need to
be able to verify that I have turned them on in my document, and I
need Jaws to tell me what line I am currently on when I am sending
edits to other folks. is there a way to do this similar to pressing f6
to get page information or
insert+f to get font information?

3. After using ctrl+f to find text, the next time I hit ctrl+f,
instead of bringing up the dialogue box, it keeps searching for the
same text I previously entered, as though I had hit find next. This
happens only sometimes, and I can't figure out the pattern. I've use
a work-around, but would love for it to function properly.

4. Sometimes, Jaws will read both the new and revised text in a track
change. To give an example, if the original word was taken, and I
changed it to taking, jaws would read takening. This obviously gets confusing.

5. I have Braille marking turned on for underlining, italics, bold,
and highlighting. This works above the line. However, if I have
highlighting checked, the Braille display displays dots 7 and 8 across
the entire line of footnoted text. If I turn highlighting **off*, the
braille display stops doing this, but it also doesn't display bold,
italics, or underlined text using dots 7 or 8 either.

6. Lastly, my cursor routing buttons don't work below the line.

I know there is a "repair" feature on Jaws, but I'm not sure how to
use it or if it would be helpful in this situation. I find it odd that
it would be happening exactly the same on two different machines
running different copies of word. I also wonder whether it will reset
all of my word-specific settings if I do that.

Anyway, thanks for any assistance. The combined force of all of these
has markedly affected my productivity, so any help is greatly appreciated.

Best,

Laura








Re: Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Its in the settings center: insert + F2 then press the letter S twice. You should heare Settings Center. Press enter. you should hear Jaws Default all applications. If not press ctrl + shift + D. Now down arrow through the list and expand as follows. This is what you will hear as you go down the list:
SearchBox Edit
Type in text.
Control+E

Tree view
User
closed
1 of 24
To move through or expand items use the Arrow keys.
Web / HTML / PDFs
open
1
Reading
closed
1 of 7
Navigation
closed
Navigation
open
7 items
2
Smart Navigation ModeOff
1 of 7
Document Presentation Mode closed
Text Block Length25
Lines Per Page24
Maximum Line Length150
Screen Tracks Virtual Cursor checked
Wrap Navigation checked
read only edit
When selected, Navigation Quick Key commands wrap after reaching the beginning or end of an HTML document. When cleared, JAWS speaks a message
Use your reading keys to read the text.
informing you that no more matches are found, such as no more tables. This item is selected by default.
OK Button

On 9/17/2017 11:54 AM, Patrick Johnson wrote:
Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick


Turning off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18

Patrick Johnson
 

Group,

I suspect this is an exceptionally easy question to answer, hence why
I have not been able to find it. Where in the menus would I go to
turn off the page wrap around feature in JAWS 18? When I get to the
bottom of a web page I want my cursor to stay there and not wrap
around to the top of the page.

Thanks,

Patrick


Number of Jaws Quirks With Word

Laura Wolk
 

Thanks. I use a laptop. Do you know how to do this on a laptop without a numpad?

On 9/17/17, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Laura,

Welcome ...... My name is also Laura (smile). I'm fairly new to this list
and am not very tech savvy either. I hope the little bit of information
listed below will be helpful to you.

I use Jaws 18 and MS Word 2016. When I press insert + dot on the numb pad
(dot is the key to the right of insert) Jaws will say the current line I'm
on. When I press insert + 3 on the numb pad Jaws will say the current page
I'm on ...... Example; if you have a five page document and you're on page
3, by pressing insert + 3 Jaws will say "page 3 of 5".

Laura



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Wolk
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Number of Jaws Quirks With Word

Hello,

I have just subscribed to the list, so apologies if any of this has been
covered before. I am a longtime jaws user, but am not super tech savvy. A
number of recent Jaws issues between jaws 18 and Microsoft word 2013
(particularly in the footnotes). Some bu tont all issues also involve my
rather old but recently tuned up Focus 40. The same issues are happening on
both my laptop (running windows 7) and my work desktop (running windows 10).
I would truly appreciate help with any of the following. I have tried
calling VFO Group but the recent hurricane has caused them to have staffing
issues, and the one woman I did speak with said she had "no familiarity at
all" with footnotes.
Feel free to contact me offlist if these are too trivial for listserv
traffic.

1. Jaws used to read me the number of the footnote both above the line and
below the line. It now only reads the number above the line. When I am down
navigating in the footnotes, or when I am scrolling using the arrows or say
all mode, it no longer announces the footnote number hwen reading the first
line of each footnote. It will tell me if I hopver over the first character
of the first line.

2. Similarly, I am having issues with line numbering, which can be helpful
when multiple people are editing the same document. The feature is on, but
Jaws is not announcing the line numbers. Honestly, I don't necessarily
**want** it to announce each line number all the time, but I need to be able
to verify that I have turned them on in my document, and I need Jaws to tell
me what line I am currently on when I am sending edits to other folks. is
there a way to do this similar to pressing f6 to get page information or
insert+f to get font information?

3. After using ctrl+f to find text, the next time I hit ctrl+f, instead of
bringing up the dialogue box, it keeps searching for the same text I
previously entered, as though I had hit find next. This happens only
sometimes, and I can't figure out the pattern. I've use a work-around, but
would love for it to function properly.

4. Sometimes, Jaws will read both the new and revised text in a track
change. To give an example, if the original word was taken, and I changed it
to taking, jaws would read takening. This obviously gets confusing.

5. I have Braille marking turned on for underlining, italics, bold, and
highlighting. This works above the line. However, if I have highlighting
checked, the Braille display displays dots 7 and 8 across the entire line of
footnoted text. If I turn highlighting **off*, the braille display stops
doing this, but it also doesn't display bold, italics, or underlined text
using dots 7 or 8 either.

6. Lastly, my cursor routing buttons don't work below the line.

I know there is a "repair" feature on Jaws, but I'm not sure how to use it
or if it would be helpful in this situation. I find it odd that it would be
happening exactly the same on two different machines running different
copies of word. I also wonder whether it will reset all of my word-specific
settings if I do that.

Anyway, thanks for any assistance. The combined force of all of these has
markedly affected my productivity, so any help is greatly appreciated.

Best,

Laura








Re: reading tables

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Thanks for your reply and suggestions Paul.

Unfortunately these commands do not work either with or without the layered
table commands. i.e. They do not either read up the column or do not
advance the pc cursor as each cell is read.

Shift numpad 5 will read up the current column but upon exiting the reading,
the pc cursor is still on the cell at the starting point.

Thanks
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul
Sandoval
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2017 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading tables

Try using alt windows and left or right arrows. This should read the
columns.
Alternatively if you needed to read entire Rose, use alt windows up or down
arrow.

Paul Sandoval
Blind Tech Training
720-620-8007
BlindTechTraining@gmail.com

On Sep 15, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Tom <tomcat509@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your reply.

While control alt up down arrows will read the cell when the command is
pressed for each cell, I was hopeing for a command which would have Jaws
read up the column automatically once the command was issued.

Thanks
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Friday, 15 September 2017 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading tables

Table reading can be done with ctrl+alt+<arrow key>, for example
ctrl+alt+up, ctrl+alt+down will move up and down a column and read the
new cell.

On 9/12/17, Tom <tomcat509@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,



Using latest W10 Home 64 bit,latest Jaws Home but not beta.



Can someone please inform me how to have Jaws read up a table column
while
moving the cursor to the cell being spoken. If Windows key, alt period
is
used, the cell contents are read but the cursor remains at the starting
point.



Also, sometimes it seems to read down the column rather than up.



Which ever direction Jaws is reading the column, the speech is far faster
than the speech if just the arrow keys are used. Is there a way of
slowing
the voice reading the column?



Thanks

Tom


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






Re: reading tables

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Thanks for your reply Anne,

Yes, I have tried the layered command and although shift numpad 5 reads up
the column, the PC cursor is not advanced to the cell being read. I'll just
have to keep reading and experimenting.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, 15 September 2017 9:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading tables

Have you tried the layered table commands? Press insert+space, then
t. Table navigation is a lot less complex using the layered
commands, although I don't know if it will give you what you want.

Good luck!

Ann
.
At 05:53 PM 9/14/2017, you wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

While control alt up down arrows will read the cell when the command
is pressed for each cell, I was hopeing for a command which would
have Jaws read up the column automatically once the command was issued.

Thanks
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, 15 September 2017 12:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading tables

Table reading can be done with ctrl+alt+<arrow key>, for example
ctrl+alt+up, ctrl+alt+down will move up and down a column and read the
new cell.

On 9/12/17, Tom <tomcat509@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,



Using latest W10 Home 64 bit,latest Jaws Home but not beta.



Can someone please inform me how to have Jaws read up a table column
while
moving the cursor to the cell being spoken. If Windows key, alt period
is
used, the cell contents are read but the cursor remains at the starting
point.



Also, sometimes it seems to read down the column rather than up.



Which ever direction Jaws is reading the column, the speech is far
faster
than the speech if just the arrow keys are used. Is there a way of
slowing
the voice reading the column?



Thanks

Tom


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Making Winamp your default media player.

Tim Ford
 

I just changed the subject line, since the original description of “FS Cast” hardly matches the current thread.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hello,

 

Thanks  Mike and Bill.

 

Margaret

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:03 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Margaret,

 

I have a shortcut icon on my desktop for the control panel, but you can press the Windows key, type, control panel, into the search field, & press enter on, control panel, from the list.

 

You can also get to the control panel this way:

1. Open the start menu with the Windows key, & open, All Programs.

2. Press enter on, Accessories.

3. Arrow down to System Tools, press enter.

4. Arrow down to Control Panel & press enter.

 

Putting a Control Panel Icon on your desktop can be done numerous ways, but while you're on the Control Panel option in Systems Tools from the steps above, open the context menu with the applications key or shift + F10, arrow down to, Send To, press enter, arrow down to, Desktop create shortcut, & press enter.  You should now have a control panel shortcut on your desktop.

 

If you want to edit the Control Panel shortcut icon on the desktop, highlight / select it, press the, F2 key, & this should put you in edit mode so you can change the way it reads, & when finished editing, press enter to save & close.

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Margaret Johnson

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
than relying on windows to choose a program.

Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
not be the default.

On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@... wrote:
Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
will remove it completly
On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.

Carol



On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
your default media player?




Re: FS Cast

Margaret Johnson
 

Hello,

 

Thanks  Mike and Bill.

 

Margaret

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Margaret,

 

I have a shortcut icon on my desktop for the control panel, but you can press the Windows key, type, control panel, into the search field, & press enter on, control panel, from the list.

 

You can also get to the control panel this way:

1. Open the start menu with the Windows key, & open, All Programs.

2. Press enter on, Accessories.

3. Arrow down to System Tools, press enter.

4. Arrow down to Control Panel & press enter.

 

Putting a Control Panel Icon on your desktop can be done numerous ways, but while you're on the Control Panel option in Systems Tools from the steps above, open the context menu with the applications key or shift + F10, arrow down to, Send To, press enter, arrow down to, Desktop create shortcut, & press enter.  You should now have a control panel shortcut on your desktop.

 

If you want to edit the Control Panel shortcut icon on the desktop, highlight / select it, press the, F2 key, & this should put you in edit mode so you can change the way it reads, & when finished editing, press enter to save & close.

 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
> than relying on windows to choose a program.
>
> Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
> being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
> not be the default.
>
> On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:
>> Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
>> options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
>> will remove it completly
>> On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
>>> directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
>>> media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
>>> remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
>>> remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
>>> add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
>>>> My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
>>>> your default media player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: FS Cast

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Margaret,
 
I have a shortcut icon on my desktop for the control panel, but you can press the Windows key, type, control panel, into the search field, & press enter on, control panel, from the list.
 
You can also get to the control panel this way:
1. Open the start menu with the Windows key, & open, All Programs.
2. Press enter on, Accessories.
3. Arrow down to System Tools, press enter.
4. Arrow down to Control Panel & press enter.
 
Putting a Control Panel Icon on your desktop can be done numerous ways, but while you're on the Control Panel option in Systems Tools from the steps above, open the context menu with the applications key or shift + F10, arrow down to, Send To, press enter, arrow down to, Desktop create shortcut, & press enter.  You should now have a control panel shortcut on your desktop.
 
If you want to edit the Control Panel shortcut icon on the desktop, highlight / select it, press the, F2 key, & this should put you in edit mode so you can change the way it reads, & when finished editing, press enter to save & close.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: FS Cast

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
> than relying on windows to choose a program.
>
> Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
> being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
> not be the default.
>
> On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:
>> Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
>> options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
>> will remove it completly
>> On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
>>> directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
>>> media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
>>> remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
>>> remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
>>> add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
>>>> My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
>>>> your default media player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: FS Cast

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Margaret. Try the following keystroke:

 

Press the Windows key and type the words control panel into the search box until JAWS says:

 

Control Panel Desktop App.

 

Then press ENTER. You will then be in the Control Panel.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Johnson
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
> than relying on windows to choose a program.
>
> Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
> being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
> not be the default.
>
> On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:
>> Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
>> options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
>> will remove it completly
>> On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
>>> directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
>>> media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
>>> remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
>>> remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
>>> add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
>>>> My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
>>>> your default media player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: FS Cast

Margaret Johnson
 

Hello,

 

Please tell me what key stroke to use for the control panel.

 

Thank you,

Margaret

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Hi Carol,

 

I don't know which method you're using to make WinAmp your default player, but below are the steps I use to set my default programs:

 

Try the following:

1. Go to the control panel, then find, Default Programs Link, & press enter.

2. Tab to, Set Your Default Programs Link, & press enter.  Wait a few seconds for the list to populate.

3. Tab 1 time into, List View, & you should have a list of programs.  Arrow down to, WinAmp, & tab to, Set This Program As Default button, & press the spacebar.

4. Tab to, Choose Defaults for this Program button, & press the spacebar.

5. Press the spacebar on the, Select All, checkbox to check it, tab to the, Save button, & press the spacebar.

6. Tab to the, Okay button, press the spacebar, & Press, Alt + F4, to close.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: FS Cast

 

Yes, it should, but I never found one.  That is why I keep it disabled.

Carol


On 9/16/2017 11:19 AM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
> It could also be that jaws is actually running media player rather
> than relying on windows to choose a program.
>
> Media player should, however, have a setting where it accepts not
> being the default player and then it won't ask again if it happens to
> not be the default.
>
> On 9/16/17, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:
>> Just uninstall it. add/remove programs then shift tab to change windows
>> options or features then in the lis uncheck Windows Media Player. Thhis
>> will remove it completly
>> On 9/15/2017 5:36 PM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> Yes, and I don't even have media player configured.  Winamp is
>>> directed to always be the default player.  Normally, if I do need
>>> media player, I find myself having to go through the setup and then I
>>> remove it again when I no longer need it.  Well, I don't actually
>>> remove it, I just disable it in the Windows features.  I should maybe
>>> add that I am running Win7 on a desktop pc.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/15/2017 4:12 PM, Walker, Michael E wrote:
>>>> My bad in how I asked the question. Do you have Winamp configured as
>>>> your default media player?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Visual Studio and JAWS

Robbie Curtis
 

Thanks I will certainly try this.

On 9/16/2017 5:39 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
The only scripts you need are included with jaws.

You do, however, need to associate those scripts with visual studio.

To do so add the following lines to the confignames.ini file found in
the jaws user script directory:
; Visual Studio Professional/Team Foundation version 2013
devenv:12=Visual Studio 2010
; Visual Studio 2015 (all editions)
devenv:14=Visual Studio 2010
; Visual Studio 2017 (all editions)
devenv:15=Visual Studio 2010

At this point you could instead add the following single line instead:
devenv=Visual Studio 2010

It has been a long time since there were actually different scripts
for different versions of VS.

On 9/16/17, Robbie Curtis <essence64@triad.rr.com> wrote:
Hi All,

I am getting ready to learn some programming in C# and will be using
Visual Studio. My question is what will I need to do to get started
using Visual Studio? Are there special scripts I need in order to use
it? If it is not accessible, are there other IDEs that I can use to
complete assignments? I am using JAWS 15 and Windows 8.1.

Thanks in advance and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS. Are there any groups for blind programmers?

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"




--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


Re: Visual Studio and JAWS

Robbie Curtis
 

Hi Richard, thanks I will check it out.

On 9/17/2017 12:18 PM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Robbie,

See the below link to a blind programmers mailing list. VS is often discussed here.

https://www.freelists.org/list/program-l

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Visual Studio and JAWS

Hi All,

I am getting ready to learn some programming in C# and will be using Visual Studio. My question is what will I need to do to get started using Visual Studio? Are there special scripts I need in order to use it? If it is not accessible, are there other IDEs that I can use to complete assignments? I am using JAWS 15 and Windows 8.1.

Thanks in advance and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS. Are there any groups for blind programmers?

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"






--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"