On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Walker, Michael E <michael.e.walker3@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

What is the fastest way to get familiar with a large spreadsheet for the first time using JAWS, if you have no idea what is in it? My co-worker told me that as soon as she opens a spreadsheet, she can immediately see everything she needs to know on screen. I am trying to learn if there is a way to use a computer as fast as someone who can see in every situation. I am totally blind.

 

Thanks,

Mike

Does anyone have experiences with changing JAWS voices or voice profile according to your mood? For example, reading in the evening it might be nicer to have an evening voice profile with softer tones and slower speed. I imagine the same could apply between switching things up to read a poem versus a work email. Perhaps it also requires having a custom Speech and Sound Scheme for each mood too.  I'm not sure how best to approach that, or even if others have been down this same road. It would be ideal to switch things for moods with only a couple of keyboard commands.

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

I don't run Outlook, but this is something to try that has worked for others.

 

 Open the Settings Center while in the application or open the default all applications Settings Center if you want to do this for all applications.  Insert + 6, on the number row for Settings Center and press, Control, Shift + D, for Settings Center default all applications.

 

 Down arrow to, Web / HTML / PDFs closed, right arrow toopen.

 

 
Down arrow to, Reading, right arrow to open.

 

 
Down arrow to, Configure Web Verbosity Levels closed, right arrow to open.

 

 
Down arrow to, Medium..., press the spacebar to open.  Note, don't press enter here, only use the spacebar.

 

 
Down arrow many times to, Table grid checked, or use first letter navigation, and uncheck this.

 
Now, Okay, then apply, and okay.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

 

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From: Pastor Gil Pries

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:30 PM

Subject: Re: Beta

Well, in Outlook if there is a group of messages, JAWS starts at the bottom of the list instead of at the top.

When I am on the desk top, jaws says selected and then unselected over and over.

Also in Outlook when I am in my inbox Jaws says table view.  It never did that before.

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Can you share with the group why?

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Beta

 

I have gone back to Jaws 2020 until the next beta comes out.

 

Pastor Gil

Is there a keyboard command to have the PC Cursor repeat itself?  With the Virtual PC cursor, there are reading commands that repeat the same line or word, like JAWS + H.  But sometimes I don't quite hear what the PC cursors is saying, like when describing an interface element, like a combo box.  My only strategy at this point is to tab away and then tab back. But it feels like there should be a single command to repeat what was said.

I think that the closest thing that we have to a command to speak the last utterance is the insert-tab hotkey. In many cases this keystroke may do what you want. In situations where it does not you can press insert-space, followed by the letter H to bring up the speech history.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

Is there a keyboard command to have the PC Cursor repeat itself?  With the Virtual PC cursor, there are reading commands that repeat the same line or word, like JAWS + H.  But sometimes I don't quite hear what the PC cursors is saying, like when describing an interface element, like a combo box.  My only strategy at this point is to tab away and then tab back. But it feels like there should be a single command to repeat what was said.

Is there a keyboard command to have the PC Cursor repeat itself?  With the Virtual PC cursor, there are reading commands that repeat the same line or word, like JAWS + H.  But sometimes I don't quite hear what the PC cursors is saying, like when describing an interface element, like a combo box.  My only strategy at this point is to tab away and then tab back. But it feels like there should be a single command to repeat what was said.

Hi,

Dates is a different matter.

Tom is a US synth, so it is going to read dates in US style. For example, 11/09 is the 11th of September in the UK, but would be read by Tom as the 9th of November.

Note: it is only the US that have dates upside down. 😊

All the best

Steve

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: 16 September 2020 20:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a way to not have Vocalizer substitute what it thinks works for abbreviations?

And you should see what Tom does with dates! Its awful and there is no dictionary entry that would solve it.

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:56:29 -0400,
Richard Turner wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] All I can say now is
that the Tom voice does not say good.
I loaded Nathan to check, and yes, Nathan says good.
If entering gd in the dictionary and then g d with a space between them in the replacement doesn't work, then it is the Nathan voice being stubborn and not honoring the Jaws setting.



Richard
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pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a way to not have Vocalizer substitute what it thinks works for abbreviations?

Hi.

I'm using the Nathan Compact voice.

Oh well, it is what it is, but it's annoying.

Kevin and Jilly

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Is there a way to not have Vocalizer substitute what it thinks works for abbreviations?

I'm taking back everything I said on this topic.
Kevin, my Vocalizer Tom Enhanced speaks your example perfectly as g d not good.

Which voice are you using exactly?

And, I have actually never heard Grahams mail for gmail.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin
Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Is there a way to not have Vocalizer substitute what it thinks works for abbreviations?

Hi.

I'm encountering an issue with Vocalizer and JAWS. It's substituting what it thinks something should be, and it's wrong. Let me illustrate.

There is a ham radio called the GD-77. Vocalizer says it's the good 77, and that's not right. The letters should be spelled out. I tried to do a dictionary entry for the word, but it didn't work. I also never knew Google had a service called grams mail. This is annoying, and because of it I'm back to good old Eloquence. I prefer Vocalizer's speech, but not with all the so-called "helpful" abbreviation conversions.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin and Jilly






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