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Is There a JFW2018 Home Use Version?

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.
When I checked my serial number at FS's site, it showed that I have
one upgrade remaining before I can renew my SMA.

I'm using JFW17 Home.

I tried upgrading to JFW2018 and both the Tandem and Non-tandem
versions are listed as Professional. Both ask for activations when I
try to use them.

Would anyone on list know if there's an upgrade for the Home version?
I'll call FS Monday to check with them, but was wondering if a list
member might have an answer in the meantime.

Thanks,
Dani


Re: Jaws doesn't speak new output in command prompt as it appears

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Tony,

If you are using win10:
Microsoft has changed the console window. I hope screenreaders can
support this in future.
You can use the old stile and then the screenreader will read as normal.
Open a console window and press alt-space.
Go to properties and tab to the option to use the old console.

Marten

On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 18:19:09 -0800 "Tony Malykh" <anton.malykh@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello listers,

I work a lot in command prompt window (also known as console/terminal)
in Windows. Some time ago, probably a few months ago, Jaws stopped
reading new output as it appears in the window. I can still get the
current line by pressing Insert+8, or I can switch to Jaws cursor and
read all the contents, but that's pretty inefficient, since I'd have
to do it for every command that I type. Is this a bug in Jaws or is
there a magic checkbox in Jaws settings that I need to check to make
it to work?

I know there is one workaround for this: turning one "Use legacy
console" checkbox in command prompt options solves the issue. That's
what I have been using so far, but now I need to use a program that
requires the new console.

Any suggestions will be appreciated!

Thank you
Tony


Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site

Jessica R.
 

What is the ESR version?
Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site

Rick, if you decide to try Firefox, install the ESR version unless you
can see enough to use a browser without speech.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 9, 2017 1:14 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site

Firefox isn't that hard to install and to use.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Unfortunately, I don't have Firefox.







Rick Miller



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Perhaps . . . . you need to just plain use Firefox. Lots of web sites work
better on one brouser over another.

Sharon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Dear Richard:



Using Internet Explorer, I sign in with My Account. Then I search for the
book. When results pop up I go to its page. Then I find right above the
Submit button there are a whole bunch of combo boxes such as All Series, All
Authors, ALL IDs, etc. I have tried just what you suggested by just
arrowing up above the Submit button, but it is not working. Someone asked
me what browser I was using, saying that with Firefox it can be done. I am
not using Firefox, though. I am using Internet Explorer.







Rick Miller



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 6:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Rick,

Using Firefox, it is clearly possible to get to the download link after
selecting a book. Note that the book download link is above the submit
button rather than after it.

However, when you follow that download link you get to the "check out" page
where it clearly states:



You must be logged in to checkout.



You have to sign up as a patron in order to download anything.

The How to become a patron file makes that pretty clear.



I hope that helps,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Dear Listers:



Are any of you familiar with Audio Book Ministries, also known as Tape
Ministries for the Blind? They have an online accessible library from which
their books can be downloaded, but doing it using JAWS is very hard. Their
address is:



https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiobookministries.org&data=02%7C01%7Cmrb620%40hotmail.com%7C286abebe022b47204d7308d52739345a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636458048994177241&sdata=9J4bMuicyhxNDuCxVH6K%2Bd1KnfZyhUIw7lOtl7hbUbA%3D&reserved=0
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiob
ookministries.org&data=02%7C01%7Crichardturner42%40outlook.com%7Cfbcb94a19a6
148d9e6c508d525cf6dbd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636456495
182633796&sdata=%2FvJrc2Yfll1LoqCNZDxyLtj2CQMHV7m3VJT2I0fsdzY%3D&reserved=0>




Right now the employee they have who is knowledgeable about screen readers
and about JAWS is on medical leave and they don't know when he will be back
again. So if any of you are familiar with this particular web site and
maybe, by chance, might have downloaded a book from it, would you please be
so kind as to access it and figure out how it can be done using JAWS? You
don't have to sign in to do this-at least not for the help I am asking for.
Just go to the web page and find the "Online Library Access," link and hit
the Enter key. Then if you just find any book, try to figure out how to get
to the page where the book can be downloaded. When you get to the page that
has the book description, you'll see there is no direct link to download the
book. There is a "downloads," link but it will not take you to the
"download," page for the book you wish to download. Instead, it takes you
to the page where there are various things that can be downloaded, such as
the AudioBook Ministries tax summary and various other things not at all
related to the book you wish to download. When you find a book, just tell
me how to use JAWS to get to the book's download page.



Thanks for any help you can give.







Rick Miller


Re: Jaws doesn't speak new output in command prompt as it appears

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Win 10 changed the way this is accessed. Right now Narroator is the only screen reader that works with the new interface.

On 11/9/2017 6:19 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello listers,

I work a lot in command prompt window (also known as console/terminal)
in Windows. Some time ago, probably a few months ago, Jaws stopped
reading new output as it appears in the window. I can still get the
current line by pressing Insert+8, or I can switch to Jaws cursor and
read all the contents, but that's pretty inefficient, since I'd have
to do it for every command that I type. Is this a bug in Jaws or is
there a magic checkbox in Jaws settings that I need to check to make
it to work?

I know there is one workaround for this: turning one "Use legacy
console" checkbox in command prompt options solves the issue. That's
what I have been using so far, but now I need to use a program that
requires the new console.

Any suggestions will be appreciated!

Thank you
Tony

--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or.


Re: Jaws doesn't speak new output in command prompt as it appears

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tony. Which version of Windows are you using. I am having the same problem with Command prompt. The only thing I could is to use Narrator during command prompt operations. Incidentally, the same thing occurs in Power Shell.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 6:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws doesn't speak new output in command prompt as it appears

Hello listers,

I work a lot in command prompt window (also known as console/terminal)
in Windows. Some time ago, probably a few months ago, Jaws stopped
reading new output as it appears in the window. I can still get the
current line by pressing Insert+8, or I can switch to Jaws cursor and
read all the contents, but that's pretty inefficient, since I'd have
to do it for every command that I type. Is this a bug in Jaws or is
there a magic checkbox in Jaws settings that I need to check to make
it to work?

I know there is one workaround for this: turning one "Use legacy
console" checkbox in command prompt options solves the issue. That's
what I have been using so far, but now I need to use a program that
requires the new console.

Any suggestions will be appreciated!

Thank you
Tony


Few elementary issues with MS word

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all
Wanted inputs on the following basic problems with Word.
1. While I wish to make the headings bold or underlined, it sometimes
happens that the subsequent text also appears in bold or underlined
form. I mean pressing Ctrl + U or B doesn't always yield results as
JAWS repeatedly says 'Bold on'. Also if we wish to read a document,
how to effectively ascertain whether the document is underlined or
bold.
2. Any key command to get rid of all the footnotes from the document at once.
3. Key command to get back to the document text after reading the footnote.
Best
Turab


Jaws doesn't speak new output in command prompt as it appears

Tony Malykh
 

Hello listers,

I work a lot in command prompt window (also known as console/terminal)
in Windows. Some time ago, probably a few months ago, Jaws stopped
reading new output as it appears in the window. I can still get the
current line by pressing Insert+8, or I can switch to Jaws cursor and
read all the contents, but that's pretty inefficient, since I'd have
to do it for every command that I type. Is this a bug in Jaws or is
there a magic checkbox in Jaws settings that I need to check to make
it to work?

I know there is one workaround for this: turning one "Use legacy
console" checkbox in command prompt options solves the issue. That's
what I have been using so far, but now I need to use a program that
requires the new console.

Any suggestions will be appreciated!

Thank you
Tony


Re: Question about starting JAWS automatically

Michael Mote
 

We’ve done that, and it works.  I’m talking about starting JAWS at the log-on screen, which comes up first. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about starting JAWS automatically

 

Place Jaws in the startup folder!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about starting JAWS automatically

 

Hi all!  I have a quick question regarding what happens when you set JAWS to start automatically.  When you set this up, does that mean that a key is written to the Windows registry.  I have a situation where I am trying to access a virtual desktop and would like it to start talking automatically.  I’m told that they do not want anything being written to the registry, because that is how malware can be spread.  Now before everyone goes crazy over that statement, I can understand that they don’t want programs writing things to the registry arbitrarily.  Their correct in wanting to protect their platform.  No one has said that JAWS is Malware.  The admins are simply trying to protect their platform. 

I’m just wondering if this is truly what is happening when we set JAWS to start automatically.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

 

Mike Mote

Technology Accessibility Developer,  Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at www.ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106

 

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Re: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

Sterling France
 

Sieghard:

Try going to safe mode and sending an email from there.

If it works, go back to normal mode and see if that takes care of the problem.

Sterling

Fran-Coa Real Estate & Mgmt., LLC
Sterling N. France, President
Accredited Buyer Representative [ABR]
“Where quality service is our main objective”
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410-383-1111
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Our goal is to make your real estate experience a pleasant one.
If you are pleased with our service, tell a friend.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 1:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

All I can sayu is to tell both Freedom Scientific and Microsoft, I am almost sure this was caused by a recent Office update since there was no Jaws update since this started and either Microsoft or Freedom Scientific needs to do something to correct this problem. For me at least it only happens on Windows 7 machines.
Only work-around is to turn Jaws off, type your email address or part of one and press tab once or twice, then turn Jaws back on.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

Yes, I have experienced this problem with Outlook crashing when trying to enter a contact address into the "to field". In fact, I have posted a quiry about this on this list.

The problem just started occurring within the past few days.

An Outlook repair has been suggested, but I have not tried that yet.

Also, am going to see if the problem occurs with NVDA.

If anyone else has experienced this problem and has a fix, please let us know.

I'm not sure if it's a Jaws or a Microsoft problem.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 5:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

Hi: When in outlook, the messages list, and I hit control there are edit fields where I can type in the name of the recipient. However, when I hit the first letter, outlook closes. Has anyone ever experienced this?
Thanks.


Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

If you do end up calling Microsoft Accessibility about the Outlook address field issue, please let me know what they say.

 

I will probably not have the time to do so until early next week, due to a number of projects and issues I’ve got going on now.

 

I appreciate your taking the lead on this, since I know it’s not just me with the problem.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 1:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Hi Tom,

 

I highly doubt that has anything to do with an Outlook repair, it’s probably just another Office update where Microsoft decided to break things. I would call Microsoft Accessibility and show them, I am planning to do just that once I get to work today. It is my guess that there is no work-around other than to start an email from your Contacts. For me even pasting in a complete address will crash it.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Cathyanne:

 

I tried re-booting, with no luck.

 

I have never done an Outlook repair, so can you tell me how to carry that out once I find it in programs and features?

 

In other words, what do I look for, and where do I find the Outlook repair option?

 

One other thing I will try is NVDA.  I’ll see if the problem replicates itself with that screen reader.

 

Thanks for your response.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Two suggestions come to mind.

  1. Try a reboot. Hopefully that will fix the issue
  2. If the reboot doesn’t work, you can try repairing outlook through the “Programs and Features” applet of the Control Panel

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

This morning, I just discovered a major problem with Outlook 2016 when originating an e-mail.

 

When I start a new e-mail with control N, I can no longer type a contact address into the “to” field.  When I do this, I get kicked out of my new e-mail, and get placed back into my inbox.

 

Interestingly, I can go to my contacts list, and copy and paste the e-mail address into the to field with no problem.  I can also reply to e-mails with no problem.

 

Once again, the issue occurs when originating an e-mail and trying to access someone in my contacts list.

 

I am using Jaws 18, Outlook 2016 with Office 365, and Windows 7 here.

 

Has anyone recently experienced this issue, and if so, have you found a fix?

 

I am eligible to upgrade to Jaws 2018, and will do so when I get the chance.

 

However, in the meantime, I’d like to be able to quickly originate e-mails in the usual way if at all possible.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: New member/OT question.

Randy Meyer
 

Yes, only happens with Braille input. I need to find out if it still
happens with Jaws 2018. Thank you for the clarification.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New member/OT question.

No, Randy. I am using my pc with a keyboard. Sorry, I did not interpret
the fact that you are using braille.

Carol

On 11/8/2017 2:05 PM, Randy Meyer wrote:
Carol:

Are you using Braille input with grade 2 turned on?

When I type budget in grade 1 Braille or with a regular key board
attached, there is no problem. I am using the latest version of Jaws
18 on my ElBraille and when I have grade 2 Braille on for input dg
still is pronounced degrees.

I have not tried Braille input with Jaws 2018 on my desk top computer,
and I am not upgrading to Jaws 2018 on my ElBraille until I know it
won't cause other issues.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New member/OT question.

Hi Randy,

I just wanted to report to you that my Jaws 18 reads budget correctly.
I am using it now, while typing this message. There may be some
dictionary entry on your system that is causing this or, maybe the
change took place in the 2018 upgrade. I have not yet installed my copy.

Carol


On 11/7/2017 6:05 PM, Randy Meyer wrote:
Bill:

I purchased an ElBraille 14 about three months ago to use in place of
my Hims Braille Sense 32 cell notetaker.

First, my understanding was that you might be able to use the
ElBraille in place of a main computer has proven to be wrong. The
ElBraille has a tablet processor, which is not as fast and responsive
as my three year old desk top computer. It is similar in speed to my
Asus tablet I purchased around three years ago. Although, I do not
use the Asus tablet enough to have a good comparison, and my
ElBraille
14 may be faster, it is not as fast and responsive as my desk top
computer.
I do not use OpenBook or OCR on the Elbraile. I believe you will
need Jaws 18. You will want to buy a USB hub to give you more than
one USB port, and I also bought an HDMI adapter with a regular
monitor port for my wife to be able to give me some feedback.

Running a computer just using the Focus 14 key board has been a
learning curve. I did cheat for a while and connected a regular key
board.
The Braille translation table in Jaws does have a problem, it
recognizes dg as the degrees symbol in words. For example, budget is
pronounced bu-degrees-et. I am not sure if Jaws 2018 has an updated
translation that has corrected this. This is a Braille translation
problem, not an ElBraille problem. Also, I have not heard yet if I
can update my ElBraille to run Jaws 2018, which I am running on the
rest
of my computers.
There are times that I wish it was a little snappier running Outlook,
Word, and Excel, but it isn't too bad. I had been using the ElNotes
program to take notes, until I just decided today to use Wordpad instead.

The makers of the ElBraille like Fire Fox, and I do not use it. I
had started using Google Chrome, but there was problems typing into
edit fields with the Braille key board when using Chrome, which I am
not sure if this is an ElBraille problem or Jaws, but I suspect it is
a Jaws problem. VFO recommended I use Internet Explorer and Ron
Miller help me get Internet Explorer to be my default browser.

Keep in mind that this is not a VFO product, and VFO did not have a
dedicated support person for the ElBraille when I last called tech
support.
Ron Miller from VFO did take the time to talk with me when I was
having some initial challenges with ElBraille. I have found it
easier and quicker to send questions direct to the Elita Group who
made the ElBraille, and they do respond fairly quickly.

I hope this helps, and let me know if you have any further questions.
I still believe the best notetaker in the future will be a full
featured windows computer or tablet, which is why I am willing to go
through the challenge of using the ElBraille.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bill Tessore
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New member/OT question.

Hi all, I am a JAWS 17 user, and I am interested to know if anyone
here Has n El Braille 14, or knows any Users of the El Braille 14 by
Freedom Scientific? I would like to get some first-hand user feedback
on how it works for them. Particularly with regard to using JAWS and
the open book software and pearl OCR camera. I intend to use the
Pearl, the El Braille 40 (when it becomes US available),and related
software to facilitate my literary Braille occupation. Thanks in
advance
for your help and indulgence.
Shalom,
Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com
I can be contacted here or off site at Sent from my iPhone













Re: Question about starting JAWS automatically

Soronel Haetir
 

My experience has been that jaws doesn't work well using auto-start in
remote situations (whether connecting to a local VM or an actual
remote desktop), but I also haven't poked at it enough to try and
figure out why. If I had to guess I would think it's because jaws is
trying to start before the communication channel is ready but I do not
know that for a fact. If I start jaws manually it works fine.

On 11/9/17, Jonas Voll <jonas.voll@envisionus.com> wrote:
Place Jaws in the startup folder!



Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com<http://www.envisionus.com>

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and
opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through
employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about starting JAWS automatically

Hi all! I have a quick question regarding what happens when you set JAWS to
start automatically. When you set this up, does that mean that a key is
written to the Windows registry. I have a situation where I am trying to
access a virtual desktop and would like it to start talking automatically.
I'm told that they do not want anything being written to the registry,
because that is how malware can be spread. Now before everyone goes crazy
over that statement, I can understand that they don't want programs writing
things to the registry arbitrarily. Their correct in wanting to protect
their platform. No one has said that JAWS is Malware. The admins are
simply trying to protect their platform.
I'm just wondering if this is truly what is happening when we set JAWS to
start automatically. Any feedback would be appreciated.


Mike Mote
Technology Accessibility Developer, Human Resources
IFB Solutions
Our Vision is Working - see more at
www.ifbsolutions.org<http://www.ifbsolutions.org/>
Work Phone (336) 245-5650
Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006
Shipping: 7730 North Point Dr
Winston-Salem, NC 27106

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Re: Speaking line indentation in Jaws

Tony Malykh
 

Thank you, this checkbox is exactly what I needed. Now it works perfectly.

Tony

On 11/8/17, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, go to jaws settings center (jaws+6), type "indent" in the search
field and "Say indented characters" is the single result.

With that setting on you will receive announcements when the
indentation changes but not otherwise.

Note I've only used it in programs that act like text editors I have
never had need of it for the web so don't know how well it works with
browsers.

On 11/8/17, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Is there a way to make Jaws speak the indent of current line? It's
very important in some languages, like Python to keep all the lines
indented correctly.

One way I was told is to change scheme by pressing Insert+Alt+s and
then select one of the indent schemes. But this doesn't work for me,
nothing happens when I select indent scheme. I tried it in Visual
Studio and notepad. I'm using Jaws 18 and the latest Windows 10. Is
there any additional configuration needed to make indent scheme
working?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony




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soronel.haetir@gmail.com




Re: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

 

All I can sayu is to tell both Freedom Scientific and Microsoft, I am almost sure this was caused by a recent Office update since there was no Jaws update since this started and either Microsoft or Freedom Scientific needs to do something to correct this problem. For me at least it only happens on Windows 7 machines.
Only work-around is to turn Jaws off, type your email address or part of one and press tab once or twice, then turn Jaws back on.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

Yes, I have experienced this problem with Outlook crashing when trying to enter a contact address into the "to field". In fact, I have posted a quiry about this on this list.

The problem just started occurring within the past few days.

An Outlook repair has been suggested, but I have not tried that yet.

Also, am going to see if the problem occurs with NVDA.

If anyone else has experienced this problem and has a fix, please let us know.

I'm not sure if it's a Jaws or a Microsoft problem.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 5:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 with Jaws 18 and sending a message

Hi: When in outlook, the messages list, and I hit control there are edit fields where I can type in the name of the recipient. However, when I hit the first letter, outlook closes. Has anyone ever experienced this?
Thanks.


Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Hi Tom,

 

I highly doubt that has anything to do with an Outlook repair, it’s probably just another Office update where Microsoft decided to break things. I would call Microsoft Accessibility and show them, I am planning to do just that once I get to work today. It is my guess that there is no work-around other than to start an email from your Contacts. For me even pasting in a complete address will crash it.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 4:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Cathyanne:

 

I tried re-booting, with no luck.

 

I have never done an Outlook repair, so can you tell me how to carry that out once I find it in programs and features?

 

In other words, what do I look for, and where do I find the Outlook repair option?

 

One other thing I will try is NVDA.  I’ll see if the problem replicates itself with that screen reader.

 

Thanks for your response.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Two suggestions come to mind.

  1. Try a reboot. Hopefully that will fix the issue
  2. If the reboot doesn’t work, you can try repairing outlook through the “Programs and Features” applet of the Control Panel

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Address Field Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

This morning, I just discovered a major problem with Outlook 2016 when originating an e-mail.

 

When I start a new e-mail with control N, I can no longer type a contact address into the “to” field.  When I do this, I get kicked out of my new e-mail, and get placed back into my inbox.

 

Interestingly, I can go to my contacts list, and copy and paste the e-mail address into the to field with no problem.  I can also reply to e-mails with no problem.

 

Once again, the issue occurs when originating an e-mail and trying to access someone in my contacts list.

 

I am using Jaws 18, Outlook 2016 with Office 365, and Windows 7 here.

 

Has anyone recently experienced this issue, and if so, have you found a fix?

 

I am eligible to upgrade to Jaws 2018, and will do so when I get the chance.

 

However, in the meantime, I’d like to be able to quickly originate e-mails in the usual way if at all possible.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Question about starting JAWS automatically

Jonas Voll
 

Place Jaws in the startup folder!

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about starting JAWS automatically

 

Hi all!  I have a quick question regarding what happens when you set JAWS to start automatically.  When you set this up, does that mean that a key is written to the Windows registry.  I have a situation where I am trying to access a virtual desktop and would like it to start talking automatically.  I’m told that they do not want anything being written to the registry, because that is how malware can be spread.  Now before everyone goes crazy over that statement, I can understand that they don’t want programs writing things to the registry arbitrarily.  Their correct in wanting to protect their platform.  No one has said that JAWS is Malware.  The admins are simply trying to protect their platform. 

I’m just wondering if this is truly what is happening when we set JAWS to start automatically.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

 

Mike Mote

Technology Accessibility Developer,  Human Resources

IFB Solutions

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Question about starting JAWS automatically

Michael Mote
 

Hi all!  I have a quick question regarding what happens when you set JAWS to start automatically.  When you set this up, does that mean that a key is written to the Windows registry.  I have a situation where I am trying to access a virtual desktop and would like it to start talking automatically.  I’m told that they do not want anything being written to the registry, because that is how malware can be spread.  Now before everyone goes crazy over that statement, I can understand that they don’t want programs writing things to the registry arbitrarily.  Their correct in wanting to protect their platform.  No one has said that JAWS is Malware.  The admins are simply trying to protect their platform. 

I’m just wondering if this is truly what is happening when we set JAWS to start automatically.  Any feedback would be appreciated.

 

 

Mike Mote

Technology Accessibility Developer,  Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at www.ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106

 

*Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision

 


Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site

Mario
 

Rick, if you decide to try Firefox, install the ESR version unless you
can see enough to use a browser without speech.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 9, 2017 1:14 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site

Firefox isn't that hard to install and to use.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Unfortunately, I don't have Firefox.







Rick Miller



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Perhaps . . . . you need to just plain use Firefox. Lots of web sites work
better on one brouser over another.

Sharon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Dear Richard:



Using Internet Explorer, I sign in with My Account. Then I search for the
book. When results pop up I go to its page. Then I find right above the
Submit button there are a whole bunch of combo boxes such as All Series, All
Authors, ALL IDs, etc. I have tried just what you suggested by just
arrowing up above the Submit button, but it is not working. Someone asked
me what browser I was using, saying that with Firefox it can be done. I am
not using Firefox, though. I am using Internet Explorer.







Rick Miller



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 6:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Rick,

Using Firefox, it is clearly possible to get to the download link after
selecting a book. Note that the book download link is above the submit
button rather than after it.

However, when you follow that download link you get to the "check out" page
where it clearly states:



You must be logged in to checkout.



You have to sign up as a patron in order to download anything.

The How to become a patron file makes that pretty clear.



I hope that helps,

Richard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick
Miller
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Download a Book from a Particular Web Site



Dear Listers:



Are any of you familiar with Audio Book Ministries, also known as Tape
Ministries for the Blind? They have an online accessible library from which
their books can be downloaded, but doing it using JAWS is very hard. Their
address is:



https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiobookministries.org&data=02%7C01%7Cmrb620%40hotmail.com%7C286abebe022b47204d7308d52739345a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636458048994177241&sdata=9J4bMuicyhxNDuCxVH6K%2Bd1KnfZyhUIw7lOtl7hbUbA%3D&reserved=0
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.audiob
ookministries.org&data=02%7C01%7Crichardturner42%40outlook.com%7Cfbcb94a19a6
148d9e6c508d525cf6dbd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636456495
182633796&sdata=%2FvJrc2Yfll1LoqCNZDxyLtj2CQMHV7m3VJT2I0fsdzY%3D&reserved=0>




Right now the employee they have who is knowledgeable about screen readers
and about JAWS is on medical leave and they don't know when he will be back
again. So if any of you are familiar with this particular web site and
maybe, by chance, might have downloaded a book from it, would you please be
so kind as to access it and figure out how it can be done using JAWS? You
don't have to sign in to do this-at least not for the help I am asking for.
Just go to the web page and find the "Online Library Access," link and hit
the Enter key. Then if you just find any book, try to figure out how to get
to the page where the book can be downloaded. When you get to the page that
has the book description, you'll see there is no direct link to download the
book. There is a "downloads," link but it will not take you to the
"download," page for the book you wish to download. Instead, it takes you
to the page where there are various things that can be downloaded, such as
the AudioBook Ministries tax summary and various other things not at all
related to the book you wish to download. When you find a book, just tell
me how to use JAWS to get to the book's download page.



Thanks for any help you can give.







Rick Miller


Re: Tutor Messages and JAWS

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I'll let him know in the chat, since he tells me that right this moment,
purchasing JAWS is not in his budget.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 6:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutor Messages and JAWS

there's no cost but it will function for 40 minutes, at which time he
needs to reboot the computer, get into the VM and launch JAWS again.
if he decides to purchase a license, he will have to pay the starting
price, then he can authorize and JAWS will not expire.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, Nov 8, 2017 9:13 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tutor Messages and JAWS

Would that version cost him anything to obtain? If so, how much? What is the
direct link to it so I can forward?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutor Messages and JAWS

well, he could install the last non tandum build of JAWS, and if the VM
environment doesn't have Internet access, he won't be getting the OCR
functionality. I think this is the way to go unless someone else knows
of an "at least" installation of JAWS; this means no Tandum and no OCR.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, Nov 8, 2017 3:52 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tutor Messages and JAWS

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I'm making this app that is designed with the Qt widgets and C++ Programming
Language, and I'm wondering, how would I create what JAWS describes as a
tutor message? Would that be the same as creating a QToolTip? A QLabel? A
QWhatsThis? I'm asking this because I have somebody helping me on the Qt
Forum via Chat, a guy by the username of SGaist, and he says he only has a
virtual machine with Windows 10. Is it possible for me to have a link where
I can direct him to a basic test version of JAWS that only requires a
minimum amount of space, so he can test out the parameter that I want to
create in my app? That is, the tutor message parameter?









.


Re: Typing program younger students

Owais Patel <owaisipatel@...>
 

Hi there. I've tried TypeAbility. It's the best one in my opinion but a little pricy.

Sincerely, 
Owais  

On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Sharon <mt281820@...> wrote:

Try Talking Typing Teacher from MarvelSoft. Designed for elementary through high school students though. Assumes the student can spell to some extent. But at least the student could learn the letters perhaps.

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jordana Engebretsen
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Typing program younger students

 

Hi JFW experts,

Please, need information regarding Typing Programs for younger students.  I have used “Talking Typer”, “Type Abilities”, with my middle and high school students.  I am working with a very young preschooler.  The student is learning with a small computer and JAWS 18.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Jordana  

 

 

Jordana Engebretsen

Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired, TVI, MA

907-714-8951