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Re: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Steve Matzura
 

Agreed. I've never gotten the hang of those things since they first appeared, whether I use the JAWS ribbon option or not. They just seem so counterintuitive to me. But the previous messages have given me lots of new insite into how they work.


On 1/19/2018 7:54 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Mike,

 

Thanks to you and  list member, Carolyn. These two posts should suffice.

 

Al

 



Re: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Alan Robbins
 

Mike,

 

Thanks to you and  list member, Carolyn. These two posts should suffice.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

 

Hi Alan,

 

Here's aquick tutorial that helped me understand the ribbons better:

 

There is not a lot to ribbons.  Think of it this way.

Microsoft groups commands together that are alike. So under one tab there may be many groups.

 

Let's use Microsoft Word 2010 as an example. If I want to insert something.
I can hit the alt key to go to the upper ribbon and right arrow to the
insert tab. This would be the same thing as hitting alt N.

 

So now hit tab to go to the lower ribbon.

 

There are the following groups:

 

Pages, tables, illistrations, links, headers and footers, text, and symbols.

 

You can use the control + right and left arrow to go between these groups.
So if I wanted to insert an illustration, I can hold down control and press
the right arrow until I get to the illustration group.

 

The commands in illistrations are:

 

Picture, clip art, shapes, smart art, chart, and screen shots, .

 

Every time I hit tab, it will go from one command to another. When you get
to the end of commands in that group, it takes you to the next group, which
in this case is links. It would say hyperlink, which is the first command in
the link group.

 

So to put this together, after going to the insert tab, and hit tab, it will
put you in the pages group which has 3 commands. After tabbing through these
3 commands, and you tab again, you are in the tables group, which has just 1
command, then pressing tab again you will land in the illistrations group.
So if you don't know what group something is in, you can keep hitting tab
and it will take you through each command in each group.

 

But to be faster, if you know what group a command is in, control right
arrow until you get to the group you want, then tab to get the command you
want, then just press enter.

 

Some commands bring up another group of choices, where you can arrow around
until you find what you want and press enter on it.

 

This method of navigating the ribbons can be done in every Microsoft
application that uses ribbons.

 

This is a good start, just practice navigating, and it will be less
confusing to you.

 

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thom
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 5:16 PM

Subject: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

 

Hello,

 

I am no longer using the JAWS virtual ribbons settings. However, after using them since their inception several versions ago, I am finding navigating the native ribbon environment a bit tricky. Are there any resources out there to explain or teach best way to navigate them or is it simply a trial & error thing?

All suggestion s appreciated

 

Al


Re: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Alan,
 
Here's aquick tutorial that helped me understand the ribbons better:
 
There is not a lot to ribbons.  Think of it this way.
Microsoft groups commands together that are alike. So under one tab there may be many groups.
 
Let's use Microsoft Word 2010 as an example. If I want to insert something.
I can hit the alt key to go to the upper ribbon and right arrow to the
insert tab. This would be the same thing as hitting alt N.
 
So now hit tab to go to the lower ribbon.
 
There are the following groups:
 
Pages, tables, illistrations, links, headers and footers, text, and symbols.
 
You can use the control + right and left arrow to go between these groups.
So if I wanted to insert an illustration, I can hold down control and press
the right arrow until I get to the illustration group.
 
The commands in illistrations are:
 
Picture, clip art, shapes, smart art, chart, and screen shots, .
 
Every time I hit tab, it will go from one command to another. When you get
to the end of commands in that group, it takes you to the next group, which
in this case is links. It would say hyperlink, which is the first command in
the link group.
 
So to put this together, after going to the insert tab, and hit tab, it will
put you in the pages group which has 3 commands. After tabbing through these
3 commands, and you tab again, you are in the tables group, which has just 1
command, then pressing tab again you will land in the illistrations group.
So if you don't know what group something is in, you can keep hitting tab
and it will take you through each command in each group.
 
But to be faster, if you know what group a command is in, control right
arrow until you get to the group you want, then tab to get the command you
want, then just press enter.
 
Some commands bring up another group of choices, where you can arrow around
until you find what you want and press enter on it.
 
This method of navigating the ribbons can be done in every Microsoft
application that uses ribbons.
 
This is a good start, just practice navigating, and it will be less
confusing to you.
 
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thom
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 5:16 PM
Subject: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Hello,

 

I am no longer using the JAWS virtual ribbons settings. However, after using them since their inception several versions ago, I am finding navigating the native ribbon environment a bit tricky. Are there any resources out there to explain or teach best way to navigate them or is it simply a trial & error thing?

All suggestion s appreciated

 

Al


Re: Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Here are instructions from Gene on Tech Talk:


The essence of working with ribbons is this:
Press alt to move to the upper ribbon.
You will probably be on an item that says home tab. Items on
the upper ribbon are announced as tabs such as home tab,
view tab, etc.
it's like moving from menu to menu in a menu program. To
see what ribbons are available in the ribbon, right or left
arrow repeatedly to move through the items. Move in one
direction to move through all of them, just as you would to
move through all the menus. For this demonstration, just so
we are all doing the same thing, move with the right arrow.
When you get back to where you started, you can keep right
arrowing to move through the items again, if you wish. You
can move through all the items as many times as you want. Or
you can move with the left arrow whenever you want to move
in the opposite direction.

To illustrate how to see the items in a ribbon you have
moved to, do the following:
Stop on view. Then start tabbing. You will move through
all items in what is called the lower ribbon that are
associated with the view ribbon.
Tabbing in a ribbon is the same as using down arrow to move
down through the items in a menu. Shift tab moves you
backward through the items. It's like using up arrow to
move up instead of down in a menu.

Many items in the lower ribbon are buttons. Use either the
space bar or enter to activate the button. You may find a
button that opens a menu and if you press enter or the space
bar, you will then be in a menu.

Each time you move to an item, you will hear the short cut
command to work with that item.

Let's look at an item which is usually called the
application menu. Return to the main program window in
wordpad by closing the ribbons. You can either press escape
repeatedly, if necessary, or you can press alt once. Now,
open the ribbons again with alt.
Start right arrowing until you get to the application menu.
You will hear application menu and then something like
button drop down grid. Never mind drop down grid. It's a
description you don't have to worry about. The important
things are that you are on a button and at the application
menu. Press enter or the space bar to activate the button.
Activating the button opens the menu. Start down arrowing.
you will hear all the short cut commands necessary to open
an item or take an action. When you got to the menu item,
you heard alt f. When you open the menu and move through
it, you will hear all the letters announced. for example,
if you down arrow to save as, you will hear alt f a. that
means that, when you are in the main program window, you
press and hold alt, type f while holding alt, then release
both letters. You have now opened the menu. You then type
a to open save as.
Experiment with some of the split buttons you will find in
the menu we are working with to get a feel for how they work
and what they do. You are in a menu so right arrowing shows
the additional options. Left arrow moves you out of the
additional options.

Commands such as control o, control n, control s, control r,
etc. are mostly retained in programs
that use ribbons, though you won't hear them announced. If
you don't already know them, you'll have to find them in
ways such as by looking at a list of keyboard commands for
the program. Such lists are often available in the help for
the program. If you already know the commands from having
used an older version of the program, most or perhaps even
all of the commands you know will work.

Gene

The following message contains some material on working with
Windows Live Mail. Even if you don't have or use that
program, listening to the explanation may be helpful in
providing more examples of how to work with ribbons.
Message 2.
First, is Windows Live Mail on your computer? If so, you
need to learn how to work with ribbons.
What I will describe will allow you to work with ribbons in
any program that contains them. I will describe how to work
with ribbons and, as part of the discussion, tell you how to
open the accounts dialog in Windows Live Mail.

I would strongly urge you not to use the JAWS virtual menus
if you are using JAWS 12.x. Virtual menus are off in JAWS
by default so if you haven't turned on the virtual menus,
you will be seeing the actual ribbons. Thef JAWS training
material claims that ribbons are difficult to use. FS is
doing a real disservice to the JAWS using community by
encouraging people not to use ribbons and making claims FS
may believe are true, but are not, about the difficulty in
using ribbons.
Here is how to open the accounts dialog to create an e-mail
account in Windows Live Mail. Seeing how this is done may
help you understand how to work with ribbons in general.
open Windows Live Mail.
Open the ribbons with alt.
You are in the upper ribbon on the home tab.
Start right arrowing.
You will get to accounts after two or three right arrows.
Start tabbing to see what is in accounts. Stop on a button
that says e-mail. You can use either enter or the space bar
on this button.
If you wish, before you open this item, you can tab through
all the items in this lower ribbon. You will see a news
groups button and, I believe one or two other items. the
news groups button is for creating a news groups account.
Once you return to the e-mail button, use either enter or
the space bar. then set up an account as usual.
You will find an application menu available. It is a menu
from which you work with many aspects of the program you
used to use the file menu fore. and indeed, you can open it
from the main program window by holding down the alt key and
typing f. One important thing you will see in this menu is
the options dialog that used to be in the tools menu. Now,
in the new version of Windows Live Mail, it's in the
application submenu because this submenu is not a file menu,
it's for working with certain application items and
features, ranging from save as to the options menu.

Accellerator commands often work in programs with ribbons.
Commands such as control o, control s, and, since we are
discussing an e-mail program, control r for reply, in short,
many or most or perhaps all of the accellerator commands you
used to use in previous versions of the program usually
work.

My recommendation is that, when using ribbons, if you know
you are going to use a command regularly, that you make a
point of remembering the short cut commands announced for
getting to that item, that is, if an accellerator command
such as control o, control s, or control r is not available.
You won't hear commands such as control o, control s, or
control r announced when working with ribbons. You have to
know them or find them in other ways such as looking them
up in a list of program commands, often available in the
help material for the program.

Gene

One more note:
As you tab around to hear the items in a ribbon, you will
hear things that are sequences for opening something or
taking an action. If you are using JAWS, many of these
sequences are not announced automatically. If you want to
hear something announced that hasn't been, use the command
JAWS key tab. you will hear extraneous material but you
will hear the sequence announced if you let the information
be spoken. You will hear things like, for example, h
followed by r followed by m. That's just an example. It
doesn't necessarily respond to any sequence in use but it's
the sort of thing you may hear.
So, if you wanted to do whatever alt h followed by r
followed by m does, in the main program window type alt then
h. then type m then r.

It may take an action, it may open a menue or perhaps
something else. If you have questions, ask on list.

Cordially,

Carolyn


Tutorial for learning ribbon navigation

Alan Robbins
 

Hello,

 

I am no longer using the JAWS virtual ribbons settings. However, after using them since their inception several versions ago, I am finding navigating the native ribbon environment a bit tricky. Are there any resources out there to explain or teach best way to navigate them or is it simply a trial & error thing?

All suggestion s appreciated

 

Al


Re: not able to hear a skype windows app test call

inamuddin khan
 

Dear go to Skype setting and make sure that whatever your mic is, it should be focused!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

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From: Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 5:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: not able to hear a skype windows app test call

 

Hi. Got windows 10 64 bit pro and the skype universal app, and got the jaws scripts. But when I do a test call, and have my interal mike, it does not record my call. Any ideas why, have looked in the sound recording, and things looks good. Did do a trouble shooter, but what’s the enhanced signal settings. And when I did check that, lowered the volume of jaws, so just unchecked it. And cortana works fine with my mike.

So just frustrated.

Thanks.

 

 

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not able to hear a skype windows app test call

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. Got windows 10 64 bit pro and the skype universal app, and got the jaws scripts. But when I do a test call, and have my interal mike, it does not record my call. Any ideas why, have looked in the sound recording, and things looks good. Did do a trouble shooter, but what’s the enhanced signal settings. And when I did check that, lowered the volume of jaws, so just unchecked it. And cortana works fine with my mike.

So just frustrated.

Thanks.

 


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Re: A weird Google Chrome problem

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi Sieghard,

On my system, using Chrome and JAWS 2018 stops speaking after announcing first landmark. The same goes with NVDA. My guess is that I have different Chrome version than yours.

Using Firefox and NVDA, I can browse the site easily. I guess that's why we need to have multiple tools at our hand. When one doesn't work always have a backup :)

Best Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso
<edhoari> [dot] <s> [at] <gmail> [dot] <com.
On 01/17/2018 02:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Edhoari,

 

I don’t usually use this website, but when the original poster asked I tried it with Chrome and Jaws 2018 and had no issues navigating the site, opening links and so on.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A weird Google Chrome problem

 

Hi,

Tried accesssing mosquito.org with several combination and found one that works.

Chrome + JAWS = Not working
Chrome + NVDA = Not working
Firefox + JAWS = Not working
Firefox + NVDA = Works

I use Firefox 56. For now just stay away from Firefox Quantum.

Hope that helps.

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 15-Jan-18 9:01 PM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi all,

 

Since I was getting more and more frustrated with Firefox, especially when it was upgraded to 57, I decided to replace it with Google Chrome.

 

With my new Jaws 2018, it is working fairly well except on this site:

 

https://mosquitto.org/

 

This site describes a light open-source piece of software dedicated to message exchanges among small objects.

 

Problem: When I click this link to open it, Jaws begins to read it ok but as soon as I click a link within this page, (for instance the “documentation” link), Jaws gets stuck forever on the new page title.

 

Did anyone else notice such an annoying behavior please? Is there a way to fix it?

 

BTW, I am using Chrome 64-bit version 63.0.3239.132 on a Windows 7 64-bit Entreprise Edition computer.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 



Amazon Drive account

Jonas Voll
 

Any one use Amazon Drive account, works with Jaws?

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
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Re: Home Security

Jonas Voll
 

What have you seen for I phones?

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Home Security

 

...better off considering one to use with an iPhone, since those seem to be more prevalent. And more useful since you can monitor or respond when you're away from home and your computer.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jonas Voll

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 09:01

Subject: Home Security

 

Any one know about Home Security that will work with Jaws?

 

 

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Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

Robbie Curtis
 

Thanks guys. Appreciate the information. Very helpful.
---- Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

FS has changed the naming scheme, Jaws 2018 is basically Jaws 19, the next major update after Jaws 18.
From now on Jaws will be using years which is what a lot of software makers do and while Jaws 2018 was released in late October of 2017 it mostly covers 2018, next October Jaws 2019 will be released. I guess it's a bit like with car models, the 2019 models will already start to come out in the late summer or fall of 2018.
As DAve pointed out, Convenient OCR can now use a scanner or Pearl Camera as a source, but also important to note is that it is no longer limited to only performing OCR on PDF files which you open in Acrobat Reader. Any image file, jpg, tif, pdf etc. can now be recognized simply by going to the file in Windows Explorer, bringing up the context menu with your application key or Shift+F10 and thenpressing "J" for "Recognize with Jaws" which is one of the options in the menu which comes up.
Jaws 2018 also has better support for the Edge browser and looking ahead it is definitely the version you want to get if at all possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

Major difference is that if you have a Pearl camera, or other scanning device attached, you can invoke OCR on a printed page directly from the JAWS Convenient OCR feature, rather than running Openbook or other OCR software.
No improvements to sluggishness or freezing when using JAWS commands, however.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@triad.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:37
Subject: JAWS18 and JAWS2018


Good Afternoon,

I am getting ready to update my JAWS version and would like to know what
is the difference between JAWS18 and 2018? Thanks.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"









Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

inamuddin khan
 

Dear friend, there are several new things Freedomscientific has introduced through JAWS 2018.

To my best knowledge there are 3 things I’d like to highlight, better proformence in using Microsoft edge, new way of OCR, and one of the most interesting thing which JAWS 18 doesn’t have is Screen shade.

Speech on demand is another exciting feature which JAWS 18 doesn’t have.

If you are user of JAWS 18, you are advised to read what’s new in JAWS 2018.

For that, you need to visit:

http://www.freedomscientific.com

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

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From: Robbie Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

 

Good Afternoon,

 

I am getting ready to update my JAWS version and would like to know what

is the difference between JAWS18 and 2018?  Thanks.

 

--

Robbie J. Curtis

essence64@...

"Stay in peace, not pieces!"

 

 

 

 


Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

 

FS has changed the naming scheme, Jaws 2018 is basically Jaws 19, the next major update after Jaws 18.
From now on Jaws will be using years which is what a lot of software makers do and while Jaws 2018 was released in late October of 2017 it mostly covers 2018, next October Jaws 2019 will be released. I guess it's a bit like with car models, the 2019 models will already start to come out in the late summer or fall of 2018.
As DAve pointed out, Convenient OCR can now use a scanner or Pearl Camera as a source, but also important to note is that it is no longer limited to only performing OCR on PDF files which you open in Acrobat Reader. Any image file, jpg, tif, pdf etc. can now be recognized simply by going to the file in Windows Explorer, bringing up the context menu with your application key or Shift+F10 and thenpressing "J" for "Recognize with Jaws" which is one of the options in the menu which comes up.
Jaws 2018 also has better support for the Edge browser and looking ahead it is definitely the version you want to get if at all possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

Major difference is that if you have a Pearl camera, or other scanning device attached, you can invoke OCR on a printed page directly from the JAWS Convenient OCR feature, rather than running Openbook or other OCR software.
No improvements to sluggishness or freezing when using JAWS commands, however.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@triad.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:37
Subject: JAWS18 and JAWS2018


Good Afternoon,

I am getting ready to update my JAWS version and would like to know what
is the difference between JAWS18 and 2018? Thanks.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


Re: A weird Google Chrome problem

 

Hello Edhoari,

 

I don’t usually use this website, but when the original poster asked I tried it with Chrome and Jaws 2018 and had no issues navigating the site, opening links and so on.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A weird Google Chrome problem

 

Hi,

Tried accesssing mosquito.org with several combination and found one that works.

Chrome + JAWS = Not working
Chrome + NVDA = Not working
Firefox + JAWS = Not working
Firefox + NVDA = Works

I use Firefox 56. For now just stay away from Firefox Quantum.

Hope that helps.

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 15-Jan-18 9:01 PM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi all,

 

Since I was getting more and more frustrated with Firefox, especially when it was upgraded to 57, I decided to replace it with Google Chrome.

 

With my new Jaws 2018, it is working fairly well except on this site:

 

https://mosquitto.org/

 

This site describes a light open-source piece of software dedicated to message exchanges among small objects.

 

Problem: When I click this link to open it, Jaws begins to read it ok but as soon as I click a link within this page, (for instance the “documentation” link), Jaws gets stuck forever on the new page title.

 

Did anyone else notice such an annoying behavior please? Is there a way to fix it?

 

BTW, I am using Chrome 64-bit version 63.0.3239.132 on a Windows 7 64-bit Entreprise Edition computer.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D

 


Re: JAWS18 and JAWS2018

Dave...
 

Major difference is that if you have a Pearl camera, or other scanning
device attached, you can invoke OCR on a printed page directly from the JAWS
Convenient OCR feature, rather than running Openbook or other OCR software.
No improvements to sluggishness or freezing when using JAWS commands,
however.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@triad.rr.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:37
Subject: JAWS18 and JAWS2018


Good Afternoon,

I am getting ready to update my JAWS version and would like to know what
is the difference between JAWS18 and 2018? Thanks.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


JAWS18 and JAWS2018

Robbie Curtis
 

Good Afternoon,

I am getting ready to update my JAWS version and would like to know what is the difference between JAWS18 and 2018? Thanks.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


Re: Home Security

Dave...
 

...better off considering one to use with an iPhone, since those seem to be more prevalent. And more useful since you can monitor or respond when you're away from home and your computer.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 09:01
Subject: Home Security

Any one know about Home Security that will work with Jaws?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
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Re: JAWS and Ubuntu bash

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi All,

Thanks. It works :)


Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 16-Jan-18 12:50 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
You can also choose from among several other Linux distributions (with more said to be forthcoming) if Ubuntu isn't what you prefer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Ubuntu bash

Hi Scott,

The Linux subsystem for Windows is a welcome addition to Windows 10. I prefer the command line environment over the point and click graphical user interface.

To review the screen, use either the JAWS cursor or invisible cursor. The JAWS cursor can be activated by pressing NumPad -. The invisible cursor can be activated by pressing NumPad - twice quickly. You can determine which cursor is active by pressing ALT+NumPad delete.
I hope this helps.
John F Knope
Student, CIS – Cloud Computing
ECPI University
Home
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Greenville, SC 29607
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864.438.1947
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott Wheat
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Ubuntu bash

If I understand what you are asking, all you have to do is use the JAWS cursor. Rout JAWS to PC with insert-numpad-pluss and then use the numpad up-arrow to read the results.

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Ubuntu bash

Hi Group,

I'm new with JAWS and need some advice. Anyone here using ubuntu bash on Windows 10? or Command Prompt I'm having problems after execute a command, I need to review it's output. Using NVDA or Gnome Orca (Linux), we use numpad key to review command result. I think there has to be a way for JAWS to do it. just don't know how.

I hope someone can help me with this. Any help would be appreciated.

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com














Re: A weird Google Chrome problem

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi,

Tried accesssing mosquito.org with several combination and found one that works.

Chrome + JAWS = Not working
Chrome + NVDA = Not working
Firefox + JAWS = Not working
Firefox + NVDA = Works

I use Firefox 56. For now just stay away from Firefox Quantum.

Hope that helps.

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com
On 15-Jan-18 9:01 PM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi all,

 

Since I was getting more and more frustrated with Firefox, especially when it was upgraded to 57, I decided to replace it with Google Chrome.

 

With my new Jaws 2018, it is working fairly well except on this site:

 

https://mosquitto.org/

 

This site describes a light open-source piece of software dedicated to message exchanges among small objects.

 

Problem: When I click this link to open it, Jaws begins to read it ok but as soon as I click a link within this page, (for instance the “documentation” link), Jaws gets stuck forever on the new page title.

 

Did anyone else notice such an annoying behavior please? Is there a way to fix it?

 

BTW, I am using Chrome 64-bit version 63.0.3239.132 on a Windows 7 64-bit Entreprise Edition computer.

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice. Have a nice day. Chris D



Home Security

Jonas Voll
 

Any one know about Home Security that will work with Jaws?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


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