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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@...>
 

LOL. Yes, overcomplicating is a common issue of mine, unfortunately.
Thanks for the feedback.

Alex Coleman
TSA 2 (E D GIS)
(352) 393-1507

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

I understand, but if you use Team Viewer or something else which may be accessible for you, you still have to instruct the other user to run this application and most likely ask them to enter a code of some sort so I really don't think you gain anything. Instead of asking them to run Team Viewer you just ask them to run Jaws, click on a few menus and enter the access code.
If you have to ask them to first go online to download/run team viewer it's way more complicated.
If Jaws was not installed on the system this would be a totally different story, but if all these systems have Jaws installed you are probably overthinking this (not meant in a bad way, but we all do this from time to time). I do woodworking and sometimes I want to built something and I come up with all these ideas and then I run it by another woodworker friend and he tells me to just stop making it so complicated *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Hi,

I've heard of someone having success with Team Viewer, but not sure if this is what you are looking for. I've had people take control of my machine with Team Viewer, but I've never taken control of someone else's machine, so not sure if it's possible for a blind person to do.

Thanks,

Russell

On 12/15/17, Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@gru.com> wrote:
Sieghard, in the grand scheme of things, you are absolutely correct. I
just wanted to find out if there was an "easier" way, not that
instantiating a Tandem session is at all difficult, but, I just wanted
to remove as many steps for the end-user as possible.
Ultimately, to make the process easier for me, LOL.


Thanks to all for the great feedback.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

I assume it is quite likely that there is a Jaws shortcut on the
desktop and in my opinion it's not that much to ask from a sighted
user to click that or to tell him to type Windows Key+R and type
"Jaws18" or "Jaws2018" and press enter and to then tell him the few
mouse clicks he or she would have to do to launch the tandem session.
I understand some people use Team Viewer and while I have used it in
terms of getting support people access, I have not used it to gain
access and don't know about how accessible it is once you are
connected. I know most remote solutions like GoToMeeting and so on never used to be accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Good morning,
Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to
provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?
I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make
sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and
knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of
launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a
Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance
through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just
launch JAWS myself?
Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations
that I could potentially need to access.
I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch
JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take
control of the end-user's workstation, under their existing
credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into
their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly
appreciated.

Alex


Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

I understand, but if you use Team Viewer or something else which may be accessible for you, you still have to instruct the other user to run this application and most likely ask them to enter a code of some sort so I really don't think you gain anything. Instead of asking them to run Team Viewer you just ask them to run Jaws, click on a few menus and enter the access code.
If you have to ask them to first go online to download/run team viewer it's way more complicated.
If Jaws was not installed on the system this would be a totally different story, but if all these systems have Jaws installed you are probably overthinking this (not meant in a bad way, but we all do this from time to time). I do woodworking and sometimes I want to built something and I come up with all these ideas and then I run it by another woodworker friend and he tells me to just stop making it so complicated *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Hi,

I've heard of someone having success with Team Viewer, but not sure if this is what you are looking for. I've had people take control of my machine with Team Viewer, but I've never taken control of someone else's machine, so not sure if it's possible for a blind person to do.

Thanks,

Russell

On 12/15/17, Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@gru.com> wrote:
Sieghard, in the grand scheme of things, you are absolutely correct. I
just wanted to find out if there was an "easier" way, not that
instantiating a Tandem session is at all difficult, but, I just wanted
to remove as many steps for the end-user as possible.
Ultimately, to make the process easier for me, LOL.


Thanks to all for the great feedback.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

I assume it is quite likely that there is a Jaws shortcut on the
desktop and in my opinion it's not that much to ask from a sighted
user to click that or to tell him to type Windows Key+R and type
"Jaws18" or "Jaws2018" and press enter and to then tell him the few
mouse clicks he or she would have to do to launch the tandem session.
I understand some people use Team Viewer and while I have used it in
terms of getting support people access, I have not used it to gain
access and don't know about how accessible it is once you are
connected. I know most remote solutions like GoToMeeting and so on never used to be accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Good morning,
Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to
provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?
I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make
sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and
knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of
launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a
Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance
through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just
launch JAWS myself?
Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations
that I could potentially need to access.
I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch
JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take
control of the end-user's workstation, under their existing
credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into
their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly
appreciated.

Alex


Re: Pop up messages in Windows 10

 

Hi,

Ah, you mean those notifications that pop up and go away after a while? These are called “toasts” and can be accessed by pressing Windows+V when they appear.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Pop up messages in Windows 10

 

Hello:

This is my first time posting to this list.  I am sure this has been asked before, but is there any way to access the pop up messages you may get in Windows 10 that come up but then disappear?

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Specialist

 

John.Doering@...

www.ibSupply.com  p. 414-778-3040 Ext 4063  t. 800-642-8778 f. 414-778-3392

 

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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

I've heard of someone having success with Team Viewer, but not sure if
this is what you are looking for. I've had people take control of my
machine with Team Viewer, but I've never taken control of someone
else's machine, so not sure if it's possible for a blind person to do.

Thanks,

Russell

On 12/15/17, Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@gru.com> wrote:
Sieghard, in the grand scheme of things, you are absolutely correct. I just
wanted to find out if there was an "easier" way, not that instantiating a
Tandem session is at all difficult, but, I just wanted to remove as many
steps for the end-user as possible.
Ultimately, to make the process easier for me, LOL.


Thanks to all for the great feedback.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

I assume it is quite likely that there is a Jaws shortcut on the desktop and
in my opinion it's not that much to ask from a sighted user to click that or
to tell him to type Windows Key+R and type "Jaws18" or "Jaws2018" and press
enter and to then tell him the few mouse clicks he or she would have to do
to launch the tandem session.
I understand some people use Team Viewer and while I have used it in terms
of getting support people access, I have not used it to gain access and
don't know about how accessible it is once you are connected. I know most
remote solutions like GoToMeeting and so on never used to be accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman,
Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Good morning,
Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide
remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?
I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to
me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely
nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their
machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having
to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance
through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch
JAWS myself?
Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I
could potentially need to access.
I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in
order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take
control of the end-user's workstation, under their existing credentials and
login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via
Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly
appreciated.

Alex


Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@...>
 

Sieghard, in the grand scheme of things, you are absolutely correct. I just wanted to find out if there was an “easier” way, not that instantiating a Tandem session is at all difficult, but, I just wanted to remove as many steps for the end-user as possible.

Ultimately, to make the process easier for me, LOL.

 

 

Thanks to all for the great feedback.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

I assume it is quite likely that there is a Jaws shortcut on the desktop and in my opinion it’s not that much to ask from a sighted user to click that or to tell him to type Windows Key+R and type “Jaws18” or “Jaws2018” and press enter and to then tell him the few mouse clicks he or she would have to do to launch the tandem session.

I understand some people use Team Viewer and while I have used it in terms of getting support people access, I have not used it to gain access and don’t know about how accessible it is once you are connected. I know most remote solutions like GoToMeeting and so on never used to be accessible.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex


Pop up messages in Windows 10

John Doering
 

Hello:

This is my first time posting to this list.  I am sure this has been asked before, but is there any way to access the pop up messages you may get in Windows 10 that come up but then disappear?

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Specialist

 

John.Doering@...

www.ibSupply.com  p. 414-778-3040 Ext 4063  t. 800-642-8778 f. 414-778-3392

 

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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

I assume it is quite likely that there is a Jaws shortcut on the desktop and in my opinion it’s not that much to ask from a sighted user to click that or to tell him to type Windows Key+R and type “Jaws18” or “Jaws2018” and press enter and to then tell him the few mouse clicks he or she would have to do to launch the tandem session.

I understand some people use Team Viewer and while I have used it in terms of getting support people access, I have not used it to gain access and don’t know about how accessible it is once you are connected. I know most remote solutions like GoToMeeting and so on never used to be accessible.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex


Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Michael Mote
 

Team Viewer has been known to work in these situations.  It’s not consistent all the time though.  There is also an application called Zoom, that is fully accessible, but I think the user would have to have access to it on their computer as well. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Right, I’m set up with JAWS Remote Access and Tandem Direct, but as I stated, I’m not looking for RDP-type functionality.

Rather, I’m interested in a solution that renders a JAWS Tandem-like session, but without the end-user needing to specifically launch JAWS and configure a Tandem session.

Sighted people sometimes use Windows Remote Assistance or Team Viewer to accomplish this type of access.

Looking for a way to provide remote assistance without the end-user having to be concerned with launching JAWS to establish a Tandem connection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Well, yes Jaws supports RDP, but you will need to license Jaws to support that!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex

 
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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Jonas Voll
 

What type of functionality are you looking for?

Off the top of my head this is the only way, is this on a LAN?

 

 

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Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Right, I’m set up with JAWS Remote Access and Tandem Direct, but as I stated, I’m not looking for RDP-type functionality.

Rather, I’m interested in a solution that renders a JAWS Tandem-like session, but without the end-user needing to specifically launch JAWS and configure a Tandem session.

Sighted people sometimes use Windows Remote Assistance or Team Viewer to accomplish this type of access.

Looking for a way to provide remote assistance without the end-user having to be concerned with launching JAWS to establish a Tandem connection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Well, yes Jaws supports RDP, but you will need to license Jaws to support that!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex

 
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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@...>
 

Right, I’m set up with JAWS Remote Access and Tandem Direct, but as I stated, I’m not looking for RDP-type functionality.

Rather, I’m interested in a solution that renders a JAWS Tandem-like session, but without the end-user needing to specifically launch JAWS and configure a Tandem session.

Sighted people sometimes use Windows Remote Assistance or Team Viewer to accomplish this type of access.

Looking for a way to provide remote assistance without the end-user having to be concerned with launching JAWS to establish a Tandem connection.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Well, yes Jaws supports RDP, but you will need to license Jaws to support that!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex

 
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Re: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Jonas Voll
 

Well, yes Jaws supports RDP, but you will need to license Jaws to support that!

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Coleman, Alton A
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex

 
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Re: Continuing Problems With Navigating List Of Contacts In An E-mail Group

Tom Behler
 

Not yet.

 

I want to see if anyone on list has any suggested fixes before I contact FS.

 

If not, I will definitely contact them directly about the issue, since it has persisted for quite some time now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Continuing Problems With Navigating List Of Contacts In An E-mail Group

 

Have you contacted VFO  regarding this issue and if so, what has been the response?


On Dec 14, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I am continuing to have problems navigating the list of contacts within several e-mail groups I have created.

 

This problem has emerged within the past few months, and I keep hoping that the issue will be fixed with a new Jaws update.

 

Basically, as I try to navigate the list of contacts in an e-mail group, I get stuck on the first entry, and cannot arrow down through the rest of the list in the usual way.

 

If anyone has found a work-around for this issue, please let me know.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2018, Windows 7, and Outlook 2016 with Office 365 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: J2018

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

Are you saying that now, in Jaws 2018, convenient OCR is accessed differently?

 

Does the insert space bar, followed by O and then D still work?

 

Just trying to clarify things here.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2018 with Windows 7.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Well, one awesome improvement with Jaws 2018 is the fact that you can now do OCR on any image file, not just on PDF files opened in Acrobat Reader any more. All you have to do is bring up your context menu when you are on an image file in Windows Explorer and press “J” or arrow to “Recognize with Jaws” and press enter. To me this alone makes 2018 a worthwhile update.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of john clayton
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Hello Becky,

I would suggest that you stick with jaws 18, 2018 seems far more resource heavy and slow to me as compared to jaws18,and there arent any improvements in 2018 that arent in 18 that you could make use of in win7 anyway.

as to win7 to win10? stick with 7 as long as you can, I have been using win10 because I have no choice,but given one, would go back to 7 in a heartbeat.

hth.

 

On 15 December 2017 at 04:34, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

I came straight from XP to Windows 10. I gathered a lot of information from a couple of lists, and have a savvy husband, didn't seem to be any real problem.

Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God,

Carolyn

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

Hello Becky,

I have had Windows 10  scince the spring, and have not had an inordinant amount of trouble with it. The thing is one will have to upgrade sooner or later

That said, with the negative comments regarding Windows 8 , I skipped over that one.

Cheers Kevin.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: December 14, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018



Did you ask Kevin why you should stay with Windows 7? There are definitely some changes but it seems much more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 did.



On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Becky Tsurumoto <panache713@... <mailto:panache713@...> > wrote:


        Kevin,

        My tech person,  who works for an agency for the blind, helped me order my new computer.
        He said I have the license for Windows 10 but that he asked the seller that Windows 7 be installed.
         I didn't know if Windows 10 would be harder to use for me.
        Now Tom said I should have the latest JAWS  even if I use an older operating system in case I need tech support from Freedom Scientific.

        Becky

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
        Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:43 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: Re: J2018

        Do you not want to upgrade to Windows 10 while it is still available for free, if indeed it still is?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Becky Tsurumoto
        Sent: December 14, 2017 8:17 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: J2018

        Hi List,

        I purchased a new computer in August 2017.  I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.
        I'm authorized to download JAWS 2018, but since I'm not using Windows 10 is there any benefit to downloading the new version?  Any input would be appreciated.

        Becky
















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Providing Remote Support to Sighted Users

Coleman, Alton A <ColemanAA@...>
 

Good morning,

Is anyone aware of an accessible tool that will allow a JAWS user to provide remote assistance to other sighted non-JAWS users?

I am currently set up with JAWS Tandem Direct, but it does not make sense to me to ask a sighted user who requires my assistance, and knows absolutely nothing about JAWS to go through the process of launching JAWS on their machine just to acquire an access code for a Tandem session, and then having to explain to them how to shutdown JAWS when the session is complete, etc.

 

Is there a more mainstream utility, such as Windows Remote Assistance through which I can gain access to their workstation and then just launch JAWS myself?

Note that JAWS has already been installed on the 75-100 workstations that I could potentially need to access.

I just want to find a way that the end-user does not have to launch JAWS in order for me to provide real-time remote assistance.

 

Keep in mind that I am referring to real-time assistance, where I take control of the end-user’s workstation, under their existing credentials and login session, not to be confused with remoting into their computer via Windows Remote Desktop, etc.

 

Any thoughts or feedback that you might can share would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alex


Help with AOL mail

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Hi all,

I have a second email address that is through Verizon which was changed to AOL about a year ago. Last month I was to respond to a security update on that AOL account and missed the info until it was too late (I rarely use that email address). So now I am not receiving any email from that account. It appears to me I need to update my security on IMAPS/popups. I am clueless about all this. Below is what I've found on the AOL site.


"Find the IMAP/POP server and port settings in your email application. These settings can usually be found under an account settings menu in your application. "


I use Thunderbird 52.5.0. I can't figure out where to find accounts and the security changes I have to make. I don't know when to tab, enter or arrow. I use Jaws 18 with Windows 10.  Can someone very simply walk me through the process?

Thanks, Elaine



Re: Convenient OCR and screen resolution?

Jonas Voll
 

If you go in to your display settings and tab to screen resolution I think it will say recommended on your native resolution.

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convenient OCR and screen resolution?

 

Jonas,

Do you know how to tell what is the correct resolution for a screen?

How do I know which setting to use?

I don’t recall ever playing with it but that doesn’t mean that I should not?

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Convenient OCR and screen resolution?

 

Yes it can if your screen can only support 720 & your running at 1020 text will be off your screen or on top of each other or your zoom to 150%!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Convenient OCR and screen resolution?

 

Hi all,

I just had a thought and wondered if it made any difference.

 

I have a program that has a pop up that the mouse, the invisible curser and the touch curser cannot read.

The only way to see what is in the pop up window is to use the OCR on the window.

Sometimes I know that the results are lying to me. They are just wrong. Spaces missing between words, numbers missing, numbers miss recognized. etc.…

Does the screen resolution play a part in the OCR results on a window?

If so what should I set them to so the OCR is accurate?

This program is currently on a laptop if that makes any difference.

 

Thanks

Shannon

 
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Re: JAWS Outlook Contacts Help

Jonas Voll
 

Did you guys try refreshing the screen?

 

 

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Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bohmann, Ben
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Outlook Contacts Help

 

Thanks for the help.  My user is still having this issue even after being on the phone with support for over an hour.  Maximizing the screen, running outlook repairs, reinstalling JAWS, reinstalling the OS, trying Windows Enterprise, Windows Pro, etc.  Nothing seems to help.   Support doesn’t seem to have this issue on their computers.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Outlook Contacts Help

 

This has been an issue with Outlook 2016 since I don’t know when. Don’t recall this being a problem with Outlook 2010. I’ve gotten in the habbit of arrowing back and forth once before clicking on the desired contact. This focus being off has been annoying to say the least. Maximizing the window and so on doesn’t make a difference. I’ve almost gotten used to it at this point.

Using the most recent Jaws 2018, but  it’s been like this since at least JFW 18.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Outlook Contacts Help

 

Mee too. Don’t have a solution yet, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bohmann, Ben
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Outlook Contacts Help

 

I have a user that is running into problems with the latest version of Outlook and the latest version of JAWS.  The user views their contacts as business cards so that it reads the contact’s information.  However, as the user moves through the list of contacts, JAWS reads the contact the user just moved off of and not the currently selected contact.   For example, when the user is on Contact 1 and moves to Contact 2, JAWS reads Contact 1 even through Contact 2 is highlighted.  When the user moves to Contact 3, JAWS reads contact 2.   Any ideas would be helpful. 

 

Ben

 

 
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Re: Continuing Problems With Navigating List Of Contacts In An E-mail Group

Alan Robbins
 

Have you contacted VFO  regarding this issue and if so, what has been the response?

On Dec 14, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I am continuing to have problems navigating the list of contacts within several e-mail groups I have created.

 

This problem has emerged within the past few months, and I keep hoping that the issue will be fixed with a new Jaws update.

 

Basically, as I try to navigate the list of contacts in an e-mail group, I get stuck on the first entry, and cannot arrow down through the rest of the list in the usual way.

 

If anyone has found a work-around for this issue, please let me know.

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2018, Windows 7, and Outlook 2016 with Office 365 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: J2018

David Moore
 

Hi!

The text that JAWS extracts from the image, is put in a window for you, and you can use all reading functions, and it is an HTML Window, so you can press H for heading, and so on. Also, you can copy text from that window. Once you have JAWS scan the image, the window with the text comes up and you are put right in that window. If you want to save that text, you have to copy the text, and paste it into Notepad, Word, or any editor, and save the document as usual using the Word program or editor.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jim L
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

And how does one then get the results? Is there a folder it goes into?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 15 December 2017 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Well, one awesome improvement with Jaws 2018 is the fact that you can now do OCR on any image file, not just on PDF files opened in Acrobat Reader any more. All you have to do is bring up your context menu when you are on an image file in Windows Explorer and press “J” or arrow to “Recognize with Jaws” and press enter. To me this alone makes 2018 a worthwhile update.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of john clayton
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Hello Becky,

I would suggest that you stick with jaws 18, 2018 seems far more resource heavy and slow to me as compared to jaws18,and there arent any improvements in 2018 that arent in 18 that you could make use of in win7 anyway.

as to win7 to win10? stick with 7 as long as you can, I have been using win10 because I have no choice,but given one, would go back to 7 in a heartbeat.

hth.

 

On 15 December 2017 at 04:34, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

I came straight from XP to Windows 10. I gathered a lot of information from a couple of lists, and have a savvy husband, didn't seem to be any real problem.

Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

Hello Becky,

I have had Windows 10  scince the spring, and have not had an inordinant amount of trouble with it. The thing is one will have to upgrade sooner or later

That said, with the negative comments regarding Windows 8 , I skipped over that one.

Cheers Kevin.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: December 14, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018



Did you ask Kevin why you should stay with Windows 7? There are definitely some changes but it seems much more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 did.



On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Becky Tsurumoto <panache713@... <mailto:panache713@...> > wrote:


        Kevin,

        My tech person,  who works for an agency for the blind, helped me order my new computer.
        He said I have the license for Windows 10 but that he asked the seller that Windows 7 be installed.
         I didn't know if Windows 10 would be harder to use for me.
        Now Tom said I should have the latest JAWS  even if I use an older operating system in case I need tech support from Freedom Scientific.

        Becky

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
        Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:43 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: Re: J2018

        Do you not want to upgrade to Windows 10 while it is still available for free, if indeed it still is?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Becky Tsurumoto
        Sent: December 14, 2017 8:17 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: J2018

        Hi List,

        I purchased a new computer in August 2017.  I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.
        I'm authorized to download JAWS 2018, but since I'm not using Windows 10 is there any benefit to downloading the new version?  Any input would be appreciated.

        Becky
















--

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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired

(513) 607-6053






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***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”

 


Re: J2018

 

The OCR result is displayed in the virtual viewer, if you want to save it you have to select all, copy, open a text editor or Word processor of your choice and paste, then save as usual.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

And how does one then get the results? Is there a folder it goes into?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 15 December 2017 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Well, one awesome improvement with Jaws 2018 is the fact that you can now do OCR on any image file, not just on PDF files opened in Acrobat Reader any more. All you have to do is bring up your context menu when you are on an image file in Windows Explorer and press “J” or arrow to “Recognize with Jaws” and press enter. To me this alone makes 2018 a worthwhile update.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of john clayton
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

 

Hello Becky,

I would suggest that you stick with jaws 18, 2018 seems far more resource heavy and slow to me as compared to jaws18,and there arent any improvements in 2018 that arent in 18 that you could make use of in win7 anyway.

as to win7 to win10? stick with 7 as long as you can, I have been using win10 because I have no choice,but given one, would go back to 7 in a heartbeat.

hth.

 

On 15 December 2017 at 04:34, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

I came straight from XP to Windows 10. I gathered a lot of information from a couple of lists, and have a savvy husband, didn't seem to be any real problem.

Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018

Hello Becky,

I have had Windows 10  scince the spring, and have not had an inordinant amount of trouble with it. The thing is one will have to upgrade sooner or later

That said, with the negative comments regarding Windows 8 , I skipped over that one.

Cheers Kevin.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: December 14, 2017 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2018



Did you ask Kevin why you should stay with Windows 7? There are definitely some changes but it seems much more like Windows 7 than Windows 8 did.



On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Becky Tsurumoto <panache713@... <mailto:panache713@...> > wrote:


        Kevin,

        My tech person,  who works for an agency for the blind, helped me order my new computer.
        He said I have the license for Windows 10 but that he asked the seller that Windows 7 be installed.
         I didn't know if Windows 10 would be harder to use for me.
        Now Tom said I should have the latest JAWS  even if I use an older operating system in case I need tech support from Freedom Scientific.

        Becky

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
        Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:43 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: Re: J2018

        Do you not want to upgrade to Windows 10 while it is still available for free, if indeed it still is?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Becky Tsurumoto
        Sent: December 14, 2017 8:17 AM
        To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
        Subject: J2018

        Hi List,

        I purchased a new computer in August 2017.  I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.
        I'm authorized to download JAWS 2018, but since I'm not using Windows 10 is there any benefit to downloading the new version?  Any input would be appreciated.

        Becky
















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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA

Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired

(513) 607-6053






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