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Re: jaws issues

Val Paul
 

Hi Carol!

Thanks so much.

Having a real bad day with this little madam of a computer!

Could be in the middle of writing an email, then, suddenly, it will revert back to desktop.

My friend told me that when windows updates itsself, this is what happens!

Is this correct?


Val.


On 07/02/2018 12:17, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Val,

I have not finished reading my email, so your question may have already been answered.  But, in case it was not, here is the easiest way to shut down your PC.  First, go to the desktop.
Press alt-F4
Find out where shutdown is on your PC.
Mine happens to be the next to last option, so I press the end key and up arrow one time. 
Press enter on shutdown and you are finished.

Hope this helps.

Carol


On 2/6/2018 8:05 PM, Val Paul wrote:

Hi David!



On 06/02/2018 23:04, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change!  {like me}

I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.

Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

 

I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 17:38, Gery Gaubert wrote:

Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices.  I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things.  I am unable to do this now.  Does anyone know how to get this resolved?  

 

 





Re: trouble with web pages loading in google chrome.

Jason White
 

Insert+Escape is what I would suggest trying.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble with web pages loading in google chrome.

Did you try insert (jaws key) plus the letter z?

Carol


On 2/6/2018 8:41 PM, Mike Rogers wrote:
I have the same issue, occasionally. In fact it happened this morning.
"The only thing that works is to reboot the computer. Hope they fix this.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 17:15:21 -0800
"marvin kotler" <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening list; Marv here. First, running jaws 2018 and windows 10
bill 1709. I am having a problem with web pages not loading in google
chrome from time to time. Jaws just says blank. If anyone has trouble like
this and has found a solution, I would like to hear about it. I hope this
message turns out; trying to use the built in windows mail app.
Marv

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



Re: trouble with web pages loading in google chrome.

Carol Smith
 

Did you try insert (jaws key) plus the letter z?

Carol

On 2/6/2018 8:41 PM, Mike Rogers wrote:
I have the same issue, occasionally. In fact it happened this morning. "The only thing that works is to reboot the computer. Hope they fix this.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 17:15:21 -0800
"marvin kotler" <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening list; Marv here. First, running jaws 2018 and windows 10 bill 1709. I am having a problem with web pages not loading in google chrome from time to time. Jaws just says blank. If anyone has trouble like this and has found a solution, I would like to hear about it. I hope this message turns out; trying to use the built in windows mail app.
Marv

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Focus Issues, Jaws and Windows 10 Mail

Jim Fettgather
 

Hello to the list.
I am using a new PC running Windows 10 Fall creators edition with Jaws 2018.
In windows 10 mail, I can read a message just fine, but when pressing
escape, the focus lands on the navigation button, not back in the
list of messages.
So, I need to press Shift Tab to get back to the list of messages.
This is highly inconvenient, and I have used other computers where
this works properly.
Has anyone seen this strange behavior before?
Thanks for any thoughts.


Re: jaws issues

Carol Smith
 

Hi again, Val,

Another simple way is to press windows key plus x and then press the letter u twice. 

Carol


On 2/6/2018 8:05 PM, Val Paul wrote:

Hi David!



On 06/02/2018 23:04, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change!  {like me}

I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.

Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

 

I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 17:38, Gery Gaubert wrote:

Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices.  I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things.  I am unable to do this now.  Does anyone know how to get this resolved?  

 

 




Re: jaws issues

Carol Smith
 

Hi Val,

I have not finished reading my email, so your question may have already been answered.  But, in case it was not, here is the easiest way to shut down your PC.  First, go to the desktop.
Press alt-F4
Find out where shutdown is on your PC.
Mine happens to be the next to last option, so I press the end key and up arrow one time. 
Press enter on shutdown and you are finished.

Hope this helps.

Carol


On 2/6/2018 8:05 PM, Val Paul wrote:

Hi David!



On 06/02/2018 23:04, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change!  {like me}

I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.

Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

 

I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 17:38, Gery Gaubert wrote:

Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices.  I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things.  I am unable to do this now.  Does anyone know how to get this resolved?  

 

 




Re: Ccleaner and jaws

Carol Smith
 

Hi Mike,

Thank you for the information.  I probably did not know which things to check before.  Am I correct that items without a checkmark will not be bothered? 

Carol


On 2/6/2018 6:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Carol,
 
Typically speaking the default settings of CCleaner shouldn't remove anything that could prove to be vital, but, that doesn't mean the default settings work / are best for everyone.  Navigating the settings is somewhat a pain in the rear, & the use of the Jaws cursor is necessary.  To take a look at the default settings, try the following:
1. Open CCleaner & tab to the Tree View.  These settings are for Windows & Internet Explorer.
Note: BE, EXTRA, CAREFUL, DOING, THE, FOLLOWING!
2. Rout the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, Jaws key + NumPad minus / Jaws cursor key.  Now arrow down, & many of the checkboxes Jaws will not announce unless you press the spacebar, but pay close attention to if Jaws reports checked or unchecked!  If you press the spacebar & Jaws reports, checked, that means that it was unchecked & you just checked it by pressing the spacebar.  So, press the spacebar again to uncheck it, & put the setting back to the default setting.
 
3. Tab 1 time & Jaws will report, Windows, so right arrow to, Applications.  These settings will be for Firefox & other browsers & programs.  Now, shift + tab to put you into the Tree Biew list of settings for these applications / programs.  Navigate these the same way as above, with extreme caution!
 
4. After you are through checking out the Windows & Application settings, tab to, Registry, & press the spacebar.  Jaws won't report anything, but it has been selected.
5. Tab to Tree View Registry Cleaner, & you will navigate this list of settings just like in step#2, with extreme caution!
 
Okay, the above is a quick explanation of how to navigate the settings for just a couple of tools that are available in CCleaner, but if you want to learn more about CCleaner it would be best to read aboutit from their Homepage.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

Yes, but what about us folks that don't know which things should be removed?  I have had things disappear that I did not know about until I needed them.  I stopped using it because I couldn't figure out what things should stay or go.  Typically, I would not mess with anything having to do with the registry. 

Carol


On 2/6/2018 4:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:
As a support technician you shouldn't assume that all Jaws / computer users are as experienced / savvy as yourself!  They're not asking for help because they find it easy!  Please give them tips on how to use the program as they asked instead of simply telling them it's easy!
Below are some tips:
One thing about CCleaner out of the box, Jaws reads everything as buttons.  To make Jaws read the buttons as checkboxes do the following:
From: Dennis L
Hi, if you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, & Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name
should say Ccleaner64 press enter
Then it will say edit button. 
Tab once arrow down to check box. 
Tab to add class button press space bar.   Then to ok. 
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis   
 
From: Stormin
Once inside C-Cleaner:
A: Tab over to clean if that is your choice. Then  hit the space bar. Then
shift + tab to Analyze, press the spacebar, (you will hear the percentages) and then tab to
clean and what I do is shift tab back once and you will hear the list what
it found.  Press, Control + A, to highlight them all, tab to the Run Cleaner button, press the spacebar, the cleaner will remove everything that was selected, & you're done.
 
B: Doing the same but with the registry. Space bar and then tab to Scan and
percentages you will hear and then Highlight what It finds and tab to fix
enter and tab it will say fix or fix or repair all and ..
I am sure there is a person that can explain it much better than this farmer
up in Maine. Really easy to use the program. Along with using for removing
programs from  your computer if you like!
Geno
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

That app is very easy to use.

 

 

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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

 

Don't quote me on this! My friend says it's a very visual thing, because i was hoping the same thing.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 19:54, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

Does any body know of a good tutorial for using ccleaner with Jaws?

 

Thank you, thank you for the warning about installing Avas.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 
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Windows 10, settings opens when computer started

John Doering
 

Hello:

Does anyone know why my Windows 10 system is opening the settings window when started?

This started happening after the start of the new year.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Specialist

 

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Tips for using JAWS with Python 3

Stephanie Watts <swwatts3@...>
 

Dear list members,

I am fairly new to using JAWS and wondered if anyone here can offer tips for using it with Python 3. Are there Scripps available?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Best regards,
Stephanie


JAWS Help

Andrew Summers
 

Hi,
How do I get JAWS to not say alt tab when I press alt & tab?

Andrew


Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Hi,

In short, the culprit is a new UIA event, as the previous method isn’t used in recent updates to Calculator app. Last time I read, a fix is on its way for JAWS 2018, and I think it should make its appearance for at least 18.0 users.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Correct.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Oh Bill  so I guess you had the same problem with jaws not saying in calculator too. So you already had call fs technical support and they did jaws tandem didn’t solved the problem right?? Is this Microsoft problem with calculator not working with jaws?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue right??

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions. Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any number to add or subtract ?

Addison

 

 

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Re: jaws issues

Val Paul
 

Bill, i've got to be very careful, as the keys on this hp laptop are very close together, and not spaced out very well.

I'll look into getting a USB keyboard.

Do you have to enter the search USB     desktop key board?

On 07/02/2018 04:13, Bill White wrote:
Remember, Val, you can always get a USB keyboard, plug it in, and stay away from the laptop keyboard on your laptop, if that feels more comfortable for you. By the way, on the laptop, it is the fifth key from the left, if the ESCAPE key is the first key on that top row.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

My keys are very close together in this hp. The dell was much better.


Val.


On 07/02/2018 02:05, netbat66 wrote:
thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way
you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your
function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which
should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the
computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way,
you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This
requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI
before the computer boots.



Bill White










Re: jaws issues

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Remember, Val, you can always get a USB keyboard, plug it in, and stay away from the laptop keyboard on your laptop, if that feels more comfortable for you. By the way, on the laptop, it is the fifth key from the left, if the ESCAPE key is the first key on that top row.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

My keys are very close together in this hp. The dell was much better.


Val.


On 07/02/2018 02:05, netbat66 wrote:
thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way
you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your
function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which
should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the
computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way,
you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This
requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI
before the computer boots.



Bill White




Re: jaws issues

Val Paul
 

My keys are very close together in this hp. The dell was much better.


Val.

On 07/02/2018 02:05, netbat66 wrote:
thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.



Bill White



Re: jaws issues

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If it's a laptop, usually the ESCAPE key is to the left of F1, making F4 the fifth key in from the left.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you
always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys
aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key
from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need
someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted
person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.



Bill White


Re: jaws issues

netbat66
 

i retract my reply , grin.
if you include the escape key which is not a function key then f4 would be the fifth key. grin

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.



Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues





Hi David!







On 06/02/2018 23:04, David Moore wrote:



Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change! {like me}



I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.



Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues





I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.



Val.





On 06/02/2018 17:38, Gery Gaubert wrote:



Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices. I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things. I am unable to do this now. Does anyone know how to get this resolved?


Re: jaws issues

netbat66
 

thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.



Bill White


Re: jaws issues

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.

 

Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down

 

Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

 

Hi David!

 

 

On 06/02/2018 23:04, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change!  {like me}

I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.

Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

 

I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 17:38, Gery Gaubert wrote:

Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices.  I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things.  I am unable to do this now.  Does anyone know how to get this resolved?  

 

 

 


Re: trouble with web pages loading in google chrome.

Don H
 

Try hitting F5 to reload the page.

On 2/6/2018 7:15 PM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; Marv here.  First, running jaws 2018 and windows 10 bill 1709.  I am having a problem with web pages not loading in google chrome from time to time.  Jaws just says blank.  If anyone has trouble like this and has found a solution, I would like to hear about it.  I hope this message turns out; trying to use the built in windows mail app.
Marv
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Correct.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Oh Bill  so I guess you had the same problem with jaws not saying in calculator too. So you already had call fs technical support and they did jaws tandem didn’t solved the problem right?? Is this Microsoft problem with calculator not working with jaws?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue right??

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions. Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

 

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

 

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any number to add or subtract ?

Addison

 

 

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