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Re: Beta 2 Observation
Dan Longmore
Hi, The issue has been around for a while now. Sometimes you will get “0 messages” after Outlook has been running for some time. This occurs with the latest Outlook in Office 365. Scrolling up and down or tabbing away and back seems to fix things for a time. Also JAWS 2021 still loses focus like prior versions using the phrase “ unavailable”. for a Windows explorer window. Again tabbing away or around fixes the problem.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:55 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Beta 2 Observation
I only get 0 items if I press a key too quickly after launching Jaws. If I let outlook finish loading, all works fine. This has been the case for a couple versions now. It is only a matter of a couple of seconds, but those couple seconds make all the difference.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Beta 2 seems to be working much better than beta 1. The only thing I've noticed is that when opening Outlook when in the in-box, Jaws says ,:" 0 items. This happens no matter how many messages there are. I've reported this to FS.
Pastor Gil"
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Re: Beta 2 Observation
Richard Turner
I only get 0 items if I press a key too quickly after launching Jaws. If I let outlook finish loading, all works fine. This has been the case for a couple versions now. It is only a matter of a couple of seconds, but those couple seconds make all the difference.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Beta 2 Observation
Beta 2 seems to be working much better than beta 1. The only thing I've noticed is that when opening Outlook when in the in-box, Jaws says ,:" 0 items. This happens no matter how many messages there are. I've reported this to FS.
Pastor Gil"
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Blank tables in Outlook365
Don Mauck
Hi, I get most of my emails sent to me in the HTML format. When I open an email up, there are usually at least two blank tables which all get read by JAWS. I probably should know this but I don’t know what those tables are nor how to stop them from being read. Can someone jog my memory on this?
Regards:
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
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Beta 2 Observation
Pastor Gilbert Pries
Beta 2 seems to be working much better than beta 1. The only thing I've noticed is that when opening Outlook when in the in-box, Jaws says ,:" 0 items. This happens no matter how many messages there are. I've reported this to FS.
Pastor Gil"
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Re: Office/Outlook spell check question
Cohn, Jonathan
Documents can be multilingual. So the dictionary and speech output can change within each document. So, first go into your Outlook/Word settings and make sure your default language is US/Canadian. But then if you are replying to a message from somebody in USA it could probably be switched back to US.
In JAWS there is a setting to not only switch synthesizers on language but on dialect. If you click this, then JAWS should speak differently for US English and UK English and Indian English. I am not sure if there are any speech synthesizers for Canadian dialects. So perhaps my suggestions of toggle that JAWS setting won't help you to recognize you have switched dialects.
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Re: a strange issue with my windows ten computer.
Jim Rawls
It's about 5 months old.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Shumate Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: a strange issue with my windows ten computer. Hi Jim, This isn't a strange issue to me. I had an old Laptop that was about 3 years old and it would run for awhile and then overheat and shut off. How old is your laptop? Laura Shumate larelishumate@gmail.com
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Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window
David Pearson
Hello all:
Thanks for replies, and assistance as believe that browser is now
“maxed”. Is their a similar command to max a Youtube video screen as
they’re currently not filling up entire monitor .
Thanks again,
David S. Pearson
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser
window On
Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM, David Pearson wrote: Thanks for the reply, and info, but do the Windows + up arrow key presses have to be simultaneous to maximize the browser window?Like all X-Key+Y-Key commands, the presses must be together. That being said, you can press X-Key, keep it held, and hit Y-Key, and that will execute the action. That's the whole purpose of the plus designation. In sequential presses, e.g., WinKey+X,E to open File Explorer, the comma us used to specify the next press in the sequence. In this case, you must hold down WinKey and while its held down, hit X, then release those and hit E. -- Brian
- Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The
purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome
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Re: JAWS2021 Beta2 Build, 2009.52.40, Download & Beta Report Form Links + What's New
Pastor Gilbert Pries
Thanks Mike.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:37 AM To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: JAWS2021 Beta2 Build, 2009.52.40, Download & Beta Report Form Links + What's New
Hi All,
Below is the download link for both the 32 and 64 bit versions, a link to the Beta report form and what's new in this release.
32 and 64 Bit Download Link:
Beta Report Form Link:
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 1 and Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
Automatic Message Reading in Outlook 365
When you open a message from the Inbox in Outlook 365, JAWS and Fusion will now immediately begin reading the message contents without reading the title
To further customize how messages are read, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V) while in Outlook, search for "message," and configure any of the resulting options.
list of 3 items
Enhancements in JAWS 2021 Public Beta 2
Enhancements in ZoomText 2021 and Fusion 2021 Public Beta 2
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Re: Office/Outlook spell check question
Van Lant, Robin
Madison,
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I think what you want is under Options. Alt F, then t to open the options dialog. Arrow down to the language group then tab to a combo box that lists language options.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 12:22 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Office/Outlook spell check question Hi all, I'm not sure if this is something that can just be fixed for Outlook, or if it has to be done for all Office programs. I don't even know if it can be fixed period, but I hope that it can. Anyway, I'm running Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Office/Outlook 2013. I have Outlook set to check spelling before sending a message and sometimes I'm told that the dictionary language is English (Canada) and other times it's in English (United States). When you tab to change or ignore the error you go past a combo box where you're supposed to be able to change the selected language using the arrow keys, but when I tried to do that (it was on English United States) it just took me back to the inbox. So I'm wondering, is there another way to change the dictionary language? Since I'm Canadian I'd like to have it be set to Canadian English. The main Office program that I use is Outlook so that's the main place where I'd like the dictionary language changed, but if I have to or can change it in Word then that would be nice too!! I hope that this makes sense, and that there's a easy/simple way to change this. Look forward to any help/suggestions that any of you can provide!! Thanks Madison This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Office/Outlook spell check question
Madison Martin
Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is something that can just be fixed for Outlook, or if it has to be done for all Office programs. I don't even know if it can be fixed period, but I hope that it can. Anyway, I'm running Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Office/Outlook 2013. I have Outlook set to check spelling before sending a message and sometimes I'm told that the dictionary language is English (Canada) and other times it's in English (United States). When you tab to change or ignore the error you go past a combo box where you're supposed to be able to change the selected language using the arrow keys, but when I tried to do that (it was on English United States) it just took me back to the inbox. So I'm wondering, is there another way to change the dictionary language? Since I'm Canadian I'd like to have it be set to Canadian English. The main Office program that I use is Outlook so that's the main place where I'd like the dictionary language changed, but if I have to or can change it in Word then that would be nice too!! I hope that this makes sense, and that there's a easy/simple way to change this. Look forward to any help/suggestions that any of you can provide!! Thanks Madison
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Office/Outlook spell check question
Madison Martin
Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is something that can just be fixed for Outlook, or if it has to be done for all Office programs. I don't even know if it can be fixed period, but I hope that it can. Anyway, I'm running Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Office/Outlook 2013. I have Outlook set to check spelling before sending a message and sometimes I'm told that the dictionary language is English (Canada) and other times it's in English (United States). When you tab to change or ignore the error you go past a combo box where you're supposed to be able to change the selected language using the arrow keys, but when I tried to do that (it was on English United States) it just took me back to the inbox. So I'm wondering, is there another way to change the dictionary language? Since I'm Canadian I'd like to have it be set to Canadian English. The main Office program that I use is Outlook so that's the main place where I'd like the dictionary language changed, but if I have to or can change it in Word then that would be nice too!! I hope that this makes sense, and that there's a easy/simple way to change this. Look forward to any help/suggestions that any of you can provide!! Thanks Madison
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Re: "Perma Link" designation on webpage
Van Lant, Robin
Thanks, Brian. I suppose that makes sense if they want to be able to place a link to one of the company news stories directly on an email. It’s a new approach to me and leaves some JAWS verbal clutter, but I supposed I’ll get used to it.
Robin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 10:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: "Perma Link" designation on webpage
PermaLinks are normally used in circumstances, like online forums, or comments sections in newspapers (or elsewhere), that it would be otherwise impossible to get to that particular bit of content using the URL that's actually in the address
bar. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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JAWS2021 Beta2 Build, 2009.52.40, Download & Beta Report Form Links + What's New
Mike B
Hi All,
Below is the download link for both the 32 and 64 bit
versions, a link to the Beta report form and what's new in this
release.
32 and 64 Bit Download Link:
Beta Report Form Link:
Enhancements in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 Public Beta 2 The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 1 and
Public Beta 2. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are
included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes. Automatic Message Reading in Outlook 365
When you open a message from the Inbox in Outlook 365, JAWS and Fusion will
now immediately begin reading the message contents without reading the
title
or header information. Currently, messages are not automatically read if you ALT+TAB to an open message, or you press ENTER on a message in the Inbox that is already open. To further customize how messages are read, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V)
while in Outlook, search for "message," and configure any of the resulting
options.
A few items you might want to change include: list of 3 items
• Message Header Field with Message Announcement: Turn this option on if you want JAWS and Fusion to announce the sender's email address and the subject of the message when a message opens or gains focus. • Messages Automatically Read: Turn this option off if you do not want JAWS and Fusion to automatically read messages when they are opened. • Speak Window Titles For Read-only Messages Automatically: Turn this option on if you want JAWS and Fusion to announce the title of the message window when a message opens or gains focus. list end Enhancements in JAWS 2021 Public Beta 2
list of 13 items • Added a new Settings Center and Quick Settings option called "Pan Text by Paragraph" which is off by default. When enabled, JAWS sends an entire paragraph to the braille display instead of only the current line as you navigate web pages and documents. This can help improve the flow of reading when panning through text as you are less likely to encounter large amounts of empty space on the display when you reach the end of a line. You should now only encounter blank space if you reach the end of a paragraph, and you would move to the start of the next paragraph when panning again. • While in a Zoom meeting, you can now press CTRL+SHIFT+T to find out who is currently talking. Zoom recently added this option with CTRL+2 but we were previously using it for a JAWS feature. • When using the Voice Assistant in JAWS, you can now quickly specify whether or not JAWS listens for the wake word by pressing INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR twice quickly. Whether the wake word is on or off, you can always press this keystroke one time to have JAWS start listening for a voice command. • In the Sound Control Panel applet, resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in the list views on the Playback and Recording pages. • Addressed a reported issue where the JAWS settings Import/Export feature was not working as expected when using Windows folder redirection. • The default graphics verbosity for JAWS is now to read only labeled graphics as it is no longer as important for JAWS to read graphics that are not labeled. If you encounter a situation where you need to read unlabeled graphics, or you do not want to hear graphics at all, open Settings Center and search for Graphics Verbosity. • JAWS no longer automatically disables the "Show animations in windows" setting while running. • Added five new Japanese voices to the Add/Remove Voices utility, which allows you to sample and download Vocalizer Expressive 2 voices for use with JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion. • When using CTRL+DELETE or CTRL+BACKSPACE to delete by word in Office 365, resolved an issue where JAWS was too verbose. • Resolved a reported issue with Windows 10 Insider Builds where Outlook becomes unusable with JAWS after leaving your system idle for a long period of time. • Resolved an issue where a user had over 200 entries in a JKM (Keyboard Manager) file, causing some commands to not work as expected. We now have extended the number allowed. • Fusion and JAWS 2021 will now interrupt reading when you press the WINDOWS Key to open the Start Menu. • Resolved an issue with navigating to the configuration editor in Thunderbird Email when running JAWS or Fusion. list end Enhancements in ZoomText 2021 and Fusion 2021 Public Beta 2
list of 4 items • When installing ZoomText 2021 or Fusion 2021, you can now migrate your settings from an older ZoomText or Fusion release (for example, releases 2020 or 2019) to the latest ZoomText 2021 release. This includes features such as magnification level, color, pointer, cursor, and mouse enhancements, and any custom settings you created for applications. • Resolved a ZoomText tracking issue in InfoConnect. This is an application used by IRS employees. • Resolved several issues in Outlook 2016 and Outlook 365: list of 4 items nesting level 1 ◦ Focus enhancements and tracking now work correctly in the Select Names: Contacts dialog. ◦ The cursor enhancement is no longer visible while selecting text in a message. ◦ The cursor enhancement is now visible when you navigate to a link in a message. ◦ Addressed other focus enhancements issues when navigating various panes in Outlook 2016. list end nesting level 1 • Voice Assistant can now be enabled or disabled using the Voice Assistant check box in the Startup Wizard. list end Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
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station playlist studio scripts
Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
Hi,
How can I get the station playlist studio scripts for jaws 2020 or later?
How do they work?
Afik.
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Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM, David Pearson wrote:
Thanks for the reply, and info, but do the Windows + up arrow key presses have to be simultaneous to maximize the browser window?Like all X-Key+Y-Key commands, the presses must be together. That being said, you can press X-Key, keep it held, and hit Y-Key, and that will execute the action. That's the whole purpose of the plus designation. In sequential presses, e.g., WinKey+X,E to open File Explorer, the comma us used to specify the next press in the sequence. In this case, you must hold down WinKey and while its held down, hit X, then release those and hit E. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: "Perma Link" designation on webpage
PermaLinks are normally used in circumstances, like online forums, or comments sections in newspapers (or elsewhere), that it would be otherwise impossible to get to that particular bit of content using the URL that's actually in the address bar.
It's a method to allow you to get to something directly that you might otherwise never be easily able to "drill down" and find in the future. The text itself has never had "PermaLink" shown, in my experience, but you get that notice via hover-over if you're sighted. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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"Perma Link" designation on webpage
Van Lant, Robin
All, Our company just started using SharePoint Online for our company news intranet site. As I navigate the page, I’m hearing “Perma link” I can actually even navigate this letter by letter, but am thinking it’s not visually on the page. Anyone her of this designation and know why this might be used over another method of tagging?
Here is a sample from JAWS speech history. I had just navigated to a story profiling a coworker. IT first read a heading with the story title, then the following;
heading level 3‑ same page link‑ Permalink for From Stephanie:
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window
David Pearson
Hello Robin::
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Thanks for the reply, and info, but do the Windows + up arrow key presses have to be simultaneous to maximize the browser window? Thank you, David S. Pearson
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From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 11:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window Windows Key is the same as the start menu key. It's typically the second key to the right of the spacebar. I press that key, then hit the up arrow once to maximize the open window. So, yes, Chrome needs to be open or the keystroke will maximize whatever other program you are currently on. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window Hello list:: It's my understanding that maximizing the browser window involves pressing Windows key + up arrow, but is my Windows key the same as my menu key (have a bump dot on it) and if yes do these key presses have to be done after opening the browser, and do the keys need to be pressed simultaneously? Sincerely, David S. Pearson This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window
Bill White
Hi, David. You can also press ALT plus SPACE, followed by X, and this will
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maximize the Chrome Window if it is already open. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Pearson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 8:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window Hello list:: It's my understanding that maximizing the browser window involves pressing Windows key + up arrow, but is my Windows key the same as my menu key (have a bump dot on it) and if yes do these key presses have to be done after opening the browser, and do the keys need to be pressed simultaneously? Sincerely, David S. Pearson
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Re: Steps wanted to maximize Chrome browser window
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Don Mauck wrote:
Try using the F11 key.- That gets you into full screen mode, which is very different than a standard maximized window. It's also a toggle, so if you've gone full screen and want to get back to normal you hit F11 again. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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