Re: What is "eb dessi"

JM Casey

#82540

That’s very strange.

I wonder if JAWS is reading bits of some non-standard window that’s being overlaid somehow. It sounds like a *part* of something rather than full/legible words.

Has a sighted person looked at your screen recently and seen anything strange?

Do NVDA or Narrator also read “eb dessi”?

Do you get this more often with virtual cursor than with pc cursor (IE, more often in web time environments)?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 2, 2020 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is "eb dessi"

I am running the latest JAWS on Windows 7 and lately, I have noticed that JAWS is saying "eb dessi" in seemingly random places. here is a sample from my speech history as I was searching Facebook. This doesn't only show up on Facebook, this is just an example.

"Add friend
Button‑
Preview of a Search Result MainRegion‑ eb dessi
MainRegion‑ eb dessi
MainRegion‑ eb dessi"

Any ideas as to what is going on here?

What is "eb dessi"

Marty Hutchings

#82539

I am running the latest JAWS on Windows 7 and lately, I have noticed that JAWS is saying "eb dessi" in seemingly random places. here is a sample from my speech history as I was searching Facebook. This doesn't only show up on Facebook, this is just an example.

"Add friend
Button
Preview of a Search Result MainRegion eb dessi
MainRegion eb dessi
MainRegion eb dessi"

Any ideas as to what is going on here?

Re: Files not showing up

JM Casey

#82538

Who knows.

Maybe you should go over to his place with the drive and poke around on his system, see what you can figure out.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 2, 2020 1:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Files not showing up

After I gave the thumb drive to my friend and he discovered that his computers would not display the files, he returned it to me and I put the drive into my computer and was able to view the files and even open one of the Word Documents. Everything was as it should be on my computer. Why not on his?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

From: Randy Barnett

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:54 PM

Re: What is "eb dessi" JM Casey #82540 That’s very strange. I wonder if JAWS is reading bits of some non-standard window that’s being overlaid somehow. It sounds like a *part* of something rather than full/legible words. Has a sighted person looked at your screen recently and seen anything strange? Do NVDA or Narrator also read “eb dessi”? Do you get this more often with virtual cursor than with pc cursor (IE, more often in web time environments)? toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: October 2, 2020 5:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What is "eb dessi" I am running the latest JAWS on Windows 7 and lately, I have noticed that JAWS is saying "eb dessi" in seemingly random places. here is a sample from my speech history as I was searching Facebook. This doesn't only show up on Facebook, this is just an example. "Add friend Button‑ Preview of a Search Result MainRegion‑ eb dessi MainRegion‑ eb dessi MainRegion‑ eb dessi" Any ideas as to what is going on here?
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What is "eb dessi" Marty Hutchings #82539 I am running the latest JAWS on Windows 7 and lately, I have noticed that JAWS is saying "eb dessi" in seemingly random places. here is a sample from my speech history as I was searching Facebook. This doesn't only show up on Facebook, this is just an example. "Add friend Button Preview of a Search Result MainRegion eb dessi MainRegion eb dessi MainRegion eb dessi" Any ideas as to what is going on here?
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Re: Files not showing up JM Casey #82538 Who knows. Maybe you should go over to his place with the drive and poke around on his system, see what you can figure out. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: October 2, 2020 1:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up After I gave the thumb drive to my friend and he discovered that his computers would not display the files, he returned it to me and I put the drive into my computer and was able to view the files and even open one of the Word Documents. Everything was as it should be on my computer. Why not on his? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Did you wait for the files to finish transferring? If there was a lot of them it would take a minute or 3. Clicking on the remove drive before the files finished could result in the transfer being canceled. On 10/1/2020 5:54 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: I copied the files from my documents folder on my computer by selecting the folder in My Documents, copying to the clip board, Alt Tab to the thumb drive and pasting. Then I closed My Documents and the thumb drive, went to the System Tray and went to Safely Remove Device button, hit it and arrowed down to the drive and hit Enter and waited until it said that it is now safe to remove the drive. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Right, but how did they get onto the thumb drive? Was it from a dropbox folder on a computer? Thom From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82537 After I gave the thumb drive to my friend and he discovered that his computers would not display the files, he returned it to me and I put the drive into my computer and was able to view the files and even open one of the Word Documents. Everything was as it should be on my computer. Why not on his? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Did you wait for the files to finish transferring? If there was a lot of them it would take a minute or 3. Clicking on the remove drive before the files finished could result in the transfer being canceled. On 10/1/2020 5:54 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: I copied the files from my documents folder on my computer by selecting the folder in My Documents, copying to the clip board, Alt Tab to the thumb drive and pasting. Then I closed My Documents and the thumb drive, went to the System Tray and went to Safely Remove Device button, hit it and arrowed down to the drive and hit Enter and waited until it said that it is now safe to remove the drive. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Right, but how did they get onto the thumb drive? Was it from a dropbox folder on a computer? Thom From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Zoomtext group? David Pearson #82536 Hello list: Are there any Zoomtext user groups akin to this one for the Jaws software? If so, I'd like to find one. Sincerely, David S. Pearson
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Re: Files not showing up Randy Barnett #82535 Did you wait for the files to finish transferring? If there was a lot of them it would take a minute or 3. Clicking on the remove drive before the files finished could result in the transfer being canceled. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 10/1/2020 5:54 PM, Marty Hutchings wrote: I copied the files from my documents folder on my computer by selecting the folder in My Documents, copying to the clip board, Alt Tab to the thumb drive and pasting. Then I closed My Documents and the thumb drive, went to the System Tray and went to Safely Remove Device button, hit it and arrowed down to the drive and hit Enter and waited until it said that it is now safe to remove the drive. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Right, but how did they get onto the thumb drive? Was it from a dropbox folder on a computer? Thom From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82534 I copied the files from my documents folder on my computer by selecting the folder in My Documents, copying to the clip board, Alt Tab to the thumb drive and pasting. Then I closed My Documents and the thumb drive, went to the System Tray and went to Safely Remove Device button, hit it and arrowed down to the drive and hit Enter and waited until it said that it is now safe to remove the drive. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Right, but how did they get onto the thumb drive? Was it from a dropbox folder on a computer? Thom From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up NFB Lab 4 #82533 Right, but how did they get onto the thumb drive? Was it from a dropbox folder on a computer? Thom toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82532 The new drive did have a program for cloud storage on it, but no security program. I did not get the drive back from my friend. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 4:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up No it’s a little program that comes on the thumb drive itself most of the bigger thumb drive suppliers supply these little security programs on the drive. I always format the drive completely and get rid of all that stuff before I use it. Has nothing to do with windows. If you get a brand new flash drive put it in your USB port. And open it you’ll see an application and a couple files that come on the hard drive. And sometimes these can cause issues. Substitute thumb drive everywhere says hard drive. :-) I’m using dictation on my phone… Randy Barnett On Oct 1, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: Randy, Is this security thing a default on all windows computers? If so, wouldn’t the subfolders not be shown? Could this be bypassed by running a scan on the drive when it is plugged in? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: Mike B Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flash drive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Randy Barnett #82531 No it’s a little program that comes on the thumb drive itself most of the bigger thumb drive suppliers supply these little security programs on the drive. I always format the drive completely and get rid of all that stuff before I use it. Has nothing to do with windows. If you get a brand new flash drive put it in your USB port. And open it you’ll see an application and a couple files that come on the hard drive. And sometimes these can cause issues. Substitute thumb drive everywhere says hard drive. :-) I’m using dictation on my phone… Randy Barnett toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Oct 1, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: Randy, Is this security thing a default on all windows computers? If so, wouldn’t the subfolders not be shown? Could this be bypassed by running a scan on the drive when it is plugged in? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: Mike B Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flash drive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82530 Mike, sorry for the name mix-up. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Marty Hutchings via groups.io Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 3:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up Randy, Is this security thing a default on all windows computers? If so, wouldn’t the subfolders not be shown? Could this be bypassed by running a scan on the drive when it is plugged in? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: Mike B Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flash drive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82529 Neither. In fact, one of the drives used was brand new, because I first thought that the drive was corrupted. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up You pulled the drive before the copying was done, or the drive is defective would be my top two guesses. On 9/30/2020 23:50, Marty Hutchings wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82528 The files are from a thumb drive. Actually, two thumb drives were tried, the second one being brand new. Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Marty Hutchings #82527 Randy, Is this security thing a default on all windows computers? If so, wouldn’t the subfolders not be shown? Could this be bypassed by running a scan on the drive when it is plugged in? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: Mike B Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 7:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Files not showing up I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flash drive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Word Press Accessibility Day October 2 Norma A. Boge #82525 Hi group, Although targeted to website developers, this event offers a rare insight into how developers approach accessibility and the tools they use. There are sessions regarding screen readers, and a visually impaired screen reader user and web developer will be speaking. From the point of view of most of us, these sessions might give us tips on how we can better communicate our needs to not only those who develop for WP but for any site. This event is free and open to everyone, no registration required, just drop in as you like. Here’s the link to the full schedule: https://wpaccessibilityday.org/ HTH, Norma
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Re: Have Files in Alphabetical Order Mario #82524 IMO, an easier way is to tab to a name split button and press spacebar. now you should be returned to the list of files in reverse order. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 10/1/2020 12:08 AM, Randy Barnett wrote: Go to view then sort then press enter on name. This will reverse the order so A is at the top. On 9/30/2020 9:04 PM, Stanley Haupt via groups.io wrote: Hello Everyone: I have a flash drive that does not have the files in alphabetical order. The letter z is at the top and the letter a is at the bottom. How do I fix this issue? Stanley Haupt bookworm@ptd.net <mailto:bookworm@ptd.net>
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Re: Files not showing up Chris Hill #82523 You pulled the drive before the copying was done, or the drive is defective would be my top two guesses. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 9/30/2020 23:50, Marty Hutchings wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up NFB Lab 4 #82522 The other thing that I was thinking, are these files being copied from dropbox? If so, sometimes there is a dialog box that opens to ask you if you want to copy the files without their properties. If you don’t know this is open it will copy the folders but not the files. Just a suggestion. If you need any help, reply toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote: I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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Re: Files not showing up Mike B #82521 I don't know if this is happening, but is it possible for Windows 10 Security to be putting these files in quarantine as soon as the flashdrive is plugged in? How about if you zipped the folders up and sent them as an attachment in an email? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Barnett To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Files not showing up Are you using the built-in security app so come on those little drives? If I was you I would do a full format on the drive then copy the files. If it’s not the little security app on the drive. I’ve never seen this before and I don’t know what you can do. Randy Barnett On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote: I am using Windows 7 and the latest JAWS on a desktop computer that I copied a folder with 2 subfolders containing Word documents onto a flash drive. I gave a friend this flash drive . the first sub folder has over 200 Word documents, some .doc and some .docx files and the second sub folder had 11 Word documents in it. My friend has 2 laptops both running Windows 10. He is not a JAWS user as he is sighted. When he plugs this flash drive in to either of these computers, he can see the folder and subfolders, but when he opens the subfolders, there are no files in them. Can any one please tell me why? We first thought that the flash drive was corrupt, so he gave me another drive to try and the same thing happened. Both drives work fine on my computer, that is I can access the files.
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