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Re: JAWS and Oracle Products

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi John!

 

You ought to pose this question on the blind programmers list at the link below.

 

https://www.freelists.org/list/program-l

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Oracle Products

 

I will be taking an introductory course in SQL next term.  Oracle products have traditionally been use with screen readers, so I am reaching out for your thoughts about using JAWS with database applications.

 

I will provide further thoughts as this conversation develops, but for now I am not finding much help using search terms like accessibility, screen readers, Oracle, or SQL on the Internet.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

John F Knope

Student, CIS – Cloud Computing

ECPI University

Home

508 Mapleton Drive

Greenville, SC 29607

Phone:

864.438.1947

Email: johkno3041@...

 


Re: Chrome Browser

Robbie Curtis
 

Hi Sieghard,

The reason for me not having the recent version of JAWS is because I had other financial obligations to attend to. I am not one of those who thinks the software should be free. I was just wanting to know if these two pieces of software work together and trying to solve the issues I’m having with them. So, if JAWS and Chrome are conflicting in my case, then I will have to try something else that fits my needs. Thanks anyway.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 14, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

In fact, I don't think Jaws 16 works with Chrome. Last September when an Excel/Office update caused Excel to become unuseable for a couple of weeks with Jaws 18 I reinstalled Jaws 17 and Jaws 16 in order to see if I could use these versions with Excel. It turned out that Jaws 16 did not cause Excel to crash like it did with Jaws 17 and 18, but I use Google Chrome as my primary web browser and it did not seem to work at all with Jaws 16.
Robby, is there a particular reason why you are still using Jaws 15? I assume it might be because you didn't want to spend the money to maintain your SMA which always entitles you to the latest version, but in the long run you are not doing yourself any favours and I am not sure if you actually save any money since somebody like you who has a 5-year old Jaws version will have to pay an upgrade price in order to get up to speed. I guess you would have to call FS and find out, but at some point if you get a new computer with Windows 10 even Jaws 16 which initially worked with Windows 10 will not do any more and you really want to be on Jaws 2018 or, if you wait until the end of this year, Jaws 2019. If you are anywhere close to a place where they have these conventions you might be able to get a super deal since FS always offered visitors of said conventions some super deal for upgrades or SMA's.
Of course there is always NVDA which seems to do everything some of it's users need it to do and it's free unless you want to make a donation from time to time. Let's face it, if nobody donated a dime and they didn't get some corporate sponsorship Dollars NV access probably would not be able to offer the service they do now which is always why I did not understand people who think Jaws should be free. FS/VFO is a business, they offer products and services which they have because they have a building, management, programmers and all that and they pay these people (many of whom are blind) and they pay for their building, utilities and computers and servers.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome Browser

Well if that's the case, then that sucks! As of right now, IE and Firefox are trying my patience. Thanks anyway Marianne.



On 1/13/2018 9:10 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
I think you need at least jaws 16 for it to work. I am not sure it will work with does 15.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@triad.rr.com> wrote:

Good Evening,

This morning I decided to download Google Chrome to try out its features. When I performed a search and tried to click on a link, Chrome shut down. Each time I opened Chrome it asked if I wanted to open start page or restore. Are there any JAWS or accessibility settings I may be missing?

I am using JAWS 15 and windows 8.1. Thanks in advance for all suggestions.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"




--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"







Re: Which version of jaws for windows 10?

 

I agree with Richard, install Jaws 2018 for best compatibilityu with Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Which version of jaws for windows 10?

Hi all, I recently had to do a factory reset of my windows Lenovo ThinkPad. It has windows 10 on it, and I am needing to know which version jaws is the most stable so that I can install that on this chrome book. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Chrome Browser

 

In fact, I don't think Jaws 16 works with Chrome. Last September when an Excel/Office update caused Excel to become unuseable for a couple of weeks with Jaws 18 I reinstalled Jaws 17 and Jaws 16 in order to see if I could use these versions with Excel. It turned out that Jaws 16 did not cause Excel to crash like it did with Jaws 17 and 18, but I use Google Chrome as my primary web browser and it did not seem to work at all with Jaws 16.
Robby, is there a particular reason why you are still using Jaws 15? I assume it might be because you didn't want to spend the money to maintain your SMA which always entitles you to the latest version, but in the long run you are not doing yourself any favours and I am not sure if you actually save any money since somebody like you who has a 5-year old Jaws version will have to pay an upgrade price in order to get up to speed. I guess you would have to call FS and find out, but at some point if you get a new computer with Windows 10 even Jaws 16 which initially worked with Windows 10 will not do any more and you really want to be on Jaws 2018 or, if you wait until the end of this year, Jaws 2019. If you are anywhere close to a place where they have these conventions you might be able to get a super deal since FS always offered visitors of said conventions some super deal for upgrades or SMA's.
Of course there is always NVDA which seems to do everything some of it's users need it to do and it's free unless you want to make a donation from time to time. Let's face it, if nobody donated a dime and they didn't get some corporate sponsorship Dollars NV access probably would not be able to offer the service they do now which is always why I did not understand people who think Jaws should be free. FS/VFO is a business, they offer products and services which they have because they have a building, management, programmers and all that and they pay these people (many of whom are blind) and they pay for their building, utilities and computers and servers.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Chrome Browser

Well if that's the case, then that sucks! As of right now, IE and Firefox are trying my patience. Thanks anyway Marianne.



On 1/13/2018 9:10 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
I think you need at least jaws 16 for it to work. I am not sure it will work with does 15.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@triad.rr.com> wrote:

Good Evening,

This morning I decided to download Google Chrome to try out its features. When I performed a search and tried to click on a link, Chrome shut down. Each time I opened Chrome it asked if I wanted to open start page or restore. Are there any JAWS or accessibility settings I may be missing?

I am using JAWS 15 and windows 8.1. Thanks in advance for all suggestions.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"




--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Dave...
 

Angel,

I think the point is that we already have OCR in JAWS, and that adding the
full functionality of Openbook to JAWS would increase the price to everyone.
The OCR in JAWS already fills the needs you are describing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel" <angel238@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 09:45
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time


What reason would any of us blind people not want to own a basic ocr
program. When we require, each day, to have to be able to read printed
material?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time



Why would VFO incorporate all of the features of Open Book into JAWS, when
they can make more money selling each program separately? Do you think
anyone would spend $2000 for JAWS if it incorporated all of Open Books's
features? Not likely. VFO has never been known for its altruism, and
anyone who thinks that they will simply merge Open Book into JAWS and keep
the price of JAWS at $1000 is living in a dream world. Besides, many JAWS
users have no use for Open Book or even basic OCR capability, so why
should they be forced to pay extra for features they don't want or need?

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

"just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR."

as well as they should. why not? openbook is their OCR solution. one
thing I would want to change. FS should incorporate the best features of
Open Book... no sense to muck up what JAWS OCR can do welll now.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:49 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save
anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system. I'll probably get a new
computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a
completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think
they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook
into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.

Thanks anyway,
Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hi: Nino hear

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

Thanks have a good day.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thanks,
Perhaps I'll try the old version. FS support has proven to be less than
helpful on this one.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a
lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is
OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support
and talk to someone.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about
conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present
when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to
install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn't be
installed. You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get
this?

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Richard










Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Dave...
 


Richard, you are correct. The Pearl drivers are not available for non-FS products.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 09:55
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

I learned a long time ago not to try and predict what a software company might do. 

 

The Pearl Camera was designed to work with Openbook.

It also works with Jaws Convenient OCR, but as far as I know, it doesn’t work with any non-FreedomScientific software.

 

I don’t own one, so I truly have no idea.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ricky Joe Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

If Fs should incorpate Open Book into Jaws ocr when do you think this would happen?

 

Another question does pearl work with Open Book or is Pearl a stand alone system?

 

Ricky Joe Cook in Portland Oregon

 

 

From: Andrew Summers via Groups.Io

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:09 AM

Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Yes, I live in the UK and I Hope I would get it back in pounds!

 

Andrew

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Alan,

Yes, that would be the ethical thing to do.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Deleting user name, etc. from a website

 

Yes, some websites do hide any account removal links well and sometimes it’s easier to Google something like “How do I delete my xxx account” where you put in the name of the company, service or website for “xxx”. There are even websites where you simply can’t remove your account and you might have to request them to do this for you.

I think this is one area where legislation could do a lot. Every service or website should allow for one’s account to be closed and removed and it should be manditory that a link to do so should be just as easily accessible on the main page as the link to sign up for an account or the “Contact Us” link.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deleting user name, etc. from a website

 

Okay, thank you very much. Evidently, each site has this, but they keep it well hidden so you have to struggle to do this. Have a good day.
Elise Berkley


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Richard Turner
 

Given the fact that they have done absolutely nothing with OpenBook development in at least 3 years, and more like 5, if anyone wants to spend a thousand dollars on it, more power to them.

While it is a bit tedious, I can get as good, and possibly, better results with the free document scanning from Seeing AI on my iPhone.

It is simply more convenient to be able to scan multiple pages and save them on a computer.
Though, as I have said, that no longer works on my machine.

I think I will drop this topic now since we are getting into the area of just expressing our differences and not contributing to any solutions for anyone.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time


Why would VFO incorporate all of the features of Open Book into JAWS, when
they can make more money selling each program separately? Do you think
anyone would spend $2000 for JAWS if it incorporated all of Open Books's
features? Not likely. VFO has never been known for its altruism, and
anyone who thinks that they will simply merge Open Book into JAWS and keep
the price of JAWS at $1000 is living in a dream world. Besides, many JAWS
users have no use for Open Book or even basic OCR capability, so why should
they be forced to pay extra for features they don't want or need?

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

"just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR."

as well as they should. why not? openbook is their OCR solution. one
thing I would want to change. FS should incorporate the best features of
Open Book... no sense to muck up what JAWS OCR can do welll now.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:49 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save
anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system. I'll probably get a new
computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a
completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think
they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook
into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.

Thanks anyway,
Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hi: Nino hear

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

Thanks have a good day.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thanks,
Perhaps I'll try the old version. FS support has proven to be less than
helpful on this one.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a
lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is
OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support
and talk to someone.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about
conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present
when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to
install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn't be
installed. You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get
this?

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Richard


Re: Chrome Browser

Robbie Curtis
 

Well if that's the case, then that sucks! As of right now, IE and Firefox are trying my patience. Thanks anyway Marianne.

On 1/13/2018 9:10 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
I think you need at least jaws 16 for it to work. I am not sure it will work with does 15.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Robbie Curtis <essence64@triad.rr.com> wrote:

Good Evening,

This morning I decided to download Google Chrome to try out its features. When I performed a search and tried to click on a link, Chrome shut down. Each time I opened Chrome it asked if I wanted to open start page or restore. Are there any JAWS or accessibility settings I may be missing?

I am using JAWS 15 and windows 8.1. Thanks in advance for all suggestions.

--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"



--
Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@triad.rr.com
"Stay in peace, not pieces!"


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Richard Turner
 

I learned a long time ago not to try and predict what a software company might do. 

 

The Pearl Camera was designed to work with Openbook.

It also works with Jaws Convenient OCR, but as far as I know, it doesn’t work with any non-FreedomScientific software.

 

I don’t own one, so I truly have no idea.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ricky Joe Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

If Fs should incorpate Open Book into Jaws ocr when do you think this would happen?

 

Another question does pearl work with Open Book or is Pearl a stand alone system?

 

Ricky Joe Cook in Portland Oregon

 

 

From: Andrew Summers via Groups.Io

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:09 AM

Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Yes, I live in the UK and I Hope I would get it back in pounds!

 

Andrew

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Alan,

Yes, that would be the ethical thing to do.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Angel
 

What reason would any of us blind people not want to own a basic ocr program. When we require, each day, to have to be able to read printed material?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time



Why would VFO incorporate all of the features of Open Book into JAWS, when they can make more money selling each program separately? Do you think anyone would spend $2000 for JAWS if it incorporated all of Open Books's features? Not likely. VFO has never been known for its altruism, and anyone who thinks that they will simply merge Open Book into JAWS and keep the price of JAWS at $1000 is living in a dream world. Besides, many JAWS users have no use for Open Book or even basic OCR capability, so why should they be forced to pay extra for features they don't want or need?

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

"just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR."

as well as they should. why not? openbook is their OCR solution. one
thing I would want to change. FS should incorporate the best features of
Open Book... no sense to muck up what JAWS OCR can do welll now.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:49 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save
anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system. I'll probably get a new
computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a
completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think
they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook
into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.

Thanks anyway,
Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hi: Nino hear

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

Thanks have a good day.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thanks,
Perhaps I'll try the old version. FS support has proven to be less than
helpful on this one.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a
lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is
OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support
and talk to someone.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about
conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present
when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to
install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn't be
installed. You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get
this?

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Richard









JAWS and Oracle Products

GV-Knope, John (Greenville)
 

I will be taking an introductory course in SQL next term.  Oracle products have traditionally been use with screen readers, so I am reaching out for your thoughts about using JAWS with database applications.

 

I will provide further thoughts as this conversation develops, but for now I am not finding much help using search terms like accessibility, screen readers, Oracle, or SQL on the Internet.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

John F Knope

Student, CIS – Cloud Computing

ECPI University

Home

508 Mapleton Drive

Greenville, SC 29607

Phone:

864.438.1947

Email: johkno3041@...

 


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Gerald Levy
 

Why would VFO incorporate all of the features of Open Book into JAWS, when they can make more money selling each program separately? Do you think anyone would spend $2000 for JAWS if it incorporated all of Open Books's features? Not likely. VFO has never been known for its altruism, and anyone who thinks that they will simply merge Open Book into JAWS and keep the price of JAWS at $1000 is living in a dream world. Besides, many JAWS users have no use for Open Book or even basic OCR capability, so why should they be forced to pay extra for features they don't want or need?

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

"just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR."

as well as they should. why not? openbook is their OCR solution. one
thing I would want to change. FS should incorporate the best features of
Open Book... no sense to muck up what JAWS OCR can do welll now.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:49 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save
anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system. I'll probably get a new
computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a
completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think
they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook
into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.

Thanks anyway,
Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hi: Nino hear

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

Thanks have a good day.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thanks,
Perhaps I'll try the old version. FS support has proven to be less than
helpful on this one.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a
lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is
OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support
and talk to someone.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about
conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present
when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to
install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn't be
installed. You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get
this?

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Richard


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

rickyjoecook@...
 

If Fs should incorpate Open Book into Jaws ocr when do you think this would happen?
 
Another question does pearl work with Open Book or is Pearl a stand alone system?
 
Ricky Joe Cook in Portland Oregon
 
 

From: Andrew Summers via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
 
Yes, I live in the UK and I Hope I would get it back in pounds!
 
Andrew
 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
 

Alan,

Yes, that would be the ethical thing to do.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Turner

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Mario
 

"just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR."

as well as they should. why not? openbook is their OCR solution. one
thing I would want to change. FS should incorporate the best features of
Open Book... no sense to muck up what JAWS OCR can do welll now.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:49 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save
anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system. I'll probably get a new
computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a
completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think
they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook
into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.

Thanks anyway,
Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hi: Nino hear

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

Thanks have a good day.



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Thanks,
Perhaps I'll try the old version. FS support has proven to be less than
helpful on this one.

Richard


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a
lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is
OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support
and talk to someone.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about
conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present
when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to
install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn't be
installed. You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get
this?

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
Richard


Re: Which version of jaws for windows 10?

Mario
 

however, you can still have a backup version (for those times when 2018
decides to not to cooperate) as far back as version 16. you can also
have NVDA for a backup.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 14, 2018 9:43 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Which version of jaws for windows 10?

I've been using Jaws 2018 since it came out in the fall on my Windows 10
64 bit machine and it seems rather stable to me.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 12:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Which version of jaws for windows 10?

Hi all, I recently had to do a factory reset of my windows Lenovo
ThinkPad. It has windows 10 on it, and I am needing to know which
version jaws is the most stable so that I can install that on this
chrome book. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





.


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Don H
 

Have to remember you don't buy the software just the right to use it as long as it is available. If a company decides to discontinue a product they owe you nothing.

On 1/14/2018 9:44 AM, Dave... wrote:
Al,
Don't hold your breath. And for me, I'd continue using Openbook as a standalone program, regardless of the handy convenient OCR feature.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Alan Robbins <mailto:alan1057@me.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2018 06:57
*Subject:* Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.
Al
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.
Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.
There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.
.
Thanks anyway,
Richard
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Nino Dagostino
*Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
Hi: Nino hear
I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.
I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.
Thanks have a good day.
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
Thanks,
Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.
Richard
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Dave...
*Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE
At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:*Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54
*Subject:*Openbook and Jaws one last time
Hello,
I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.
I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.
So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.
I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.
Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?
In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Richard


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Dave...
 

Al,
 
Don't hold your breath. And for me, I'd continue using Openbook as a standalone program, regardless of the handy convenient OCR feature.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 06:57
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Andrew Summers
 

Yes, I live in the UK and I Hope I would get it back in pounds!
 
Andrew
 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time
 

Alan,

Yes, that would be the ethical thing to do.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Turner

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

Richard Turner
 

Alan,

Yes, that would be the ethical thing to do.

 

Richard

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Well, if they do that, I would hope there would be some future credits etc. to us that spent almost $1,000 on a license.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thank you for your offer, but the ultimate issue is that I cannot save anything scanned with either Openbook 1542 or 1757.

 

Freedom Scientific nor Microsoft figured out the issue, so no worries.

There is something very odd about my system.  I’ll probably get a new computer in the next year or so and will see what happens with a completely clean install unless Freedom Scientific does what I think they are going to do and just incorporate all the features of Openbook into Jaws Convenient OCR.

.

 

Thanks anyway,

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hi: Nino hear

 

I apologize for not keeping up with this thread.

 

I had trouble installing Openbook, what is happening maybe I can help.

 

Thanks have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Thanks,

Perhaps I’ll try the old version.  FS support has proven to be less than helpful on this one.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

No way to know, since you are trying to install an Openbook version a lot more recent than mine. The one that installs for me is OB9.0.1543ENU-32bit-64bit.EXE

 

At this point, wait for Monday and just call Freedom Scientific support and talk to someone.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 08:54

Subject: Openbook and Jaws one last time

 

Hello,

I may have gotten very confused with the discussion recently about conflicts with FreedomScientific OCR 64 and OpenBook 9.0.1757.403.

 

I thought there was an issue with that FS OCR 64 bit file being present when Openbook was installed causing a problem.

 

So, since I had some time today, I removed that file and attempted to install OpenBook again.

I got the error that a file was missing so Openbook couldn’t be installed.  You guessed it, the FS OCR64 file has to be there.

 

Was it the OCR 32 that caused the problem or am I just too dense to get this?

 

In any case, before I give up finally on Openbook, any sage advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Richard