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moderated Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

David Goldfield
 

Robin,

Please bear in mind that I have no personal experience in dealing with color-coded spreadsheets but I believe I can get you started on finding some possible solutions.

First, Excel's Find command, available via the ctrl-F hotkey, contains an Options button within this dialog. When you activate this button you will be in another  dialog. From this dialog, navigate with the tab key and look for the Format button. Once you activate the Format button you will be in a multi-page dialog box. One of these tabs is a Font tab. Within the font page is a color picker, where you can specify a specific color that you're looking for. Once you perform a color search it is likely that activating the Find Next command, which is probably f3, will search for the next cell containing the color you previously searched for. Along with that you could also use the Speech and Sounds Manager, found within Settings Center, to set JAWS to behave in a certain way when you move to a cell containing a specific color. As an example, it should be possible to tell JAWS to play a certain sound when you move into a cell containing red text or you could have JAWS identify that color by speaking its name when it gains focus. You can even tell JAWS to read text in a specific color in a different voice. For red text you could set JAWS to read it with a lower pitch voice, as an example. The instructions in how to do this would be in the JAWS help system and you have many options from which to choose. I wish that JAWS would have keystrokes where you could bring up a list of cells with specific color attributes, such as all cells with red text. I don't believe that this capability exists with the current set of Excel scripts. I think this is something which FS should add and it might be worth writing to suggestions@... to ask them to add this. It could likely be done with scripting.

I hope this helps.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/13/2020 4:24 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

Using JAWS 2019 with Office 365 and Windows 10.

I seem to be working with more people, including my new manager, who really like color coding in Excel.  I totally get it, as I can clearly understand how this visually makes looking at a large spreadsheet file easier, especially on calendar or schedule files.  The first project I had for my new manager was to take a color coded calendar she had from last summer and update it for this year, color coding each event based on whether I was able to secure the necessary room reservation.  My approach in this case was to hunt for color coded cells, and copy the color into a place off to the side, then clear all the colors and then paste the colors back in to new cells as I made the room reservations.  This is just an example.

 

Hear my question with the lens of someone who is losing more usable vision and adjusting to new leadership in my role.  I’m feeling a bit insecure about my abilities and am wondering if there are any tips from others who share spreadsheet files with sighted colleagues on managing colors and/or fancier layouts.  I’m intimidated by these large files my new manager is sending.  I’ve typically been the one creating the spreadsheet, so I could lay it out in my own way, but I’m taking on new job duties and inheriting files with lots of data that is just just a simple grid.

 

I guess I just need to hear of there are any tips or empathy out there. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

David Goldfield
 

Hi. The autocomplete sounds that you hear when entering an address in Outlook are generated from JAWS and not from Outlook. I don't believe there is a way to disable them from Quick Settings but they can be disabled or changed by opening the folder which contains the sound files. On my computer containing JAWS 2020 this folder is C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2020\Settings\enu\SOUNDS Look for files beginning with the word Outlook and you will see two .wav files, one for the autocomplete enter sound and another for the exit sound. It is likely that deleting these files would prevent these sounds from playing without any consequences but I haven't tried this to determine whether that is the case. Alternatively, you could substitute your own .wav files for these sounds as long as you are careful to rename the files with the exact names of the original .wav files. Personally, I find these two sounds particularly jarring, especially when I'm wearing headphones and I wish that the default sounds were a bit gentler on the ears.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 2/13/2020 6:22 PM, David Griffith wrote:

Have he gone into Outlook options – there are a lot of them – and turned off sound feedback?

David Griffith

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: 13 February 2020 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Has there been an answer to this issue?

one of my clients is experiencing the outlook sound when typing into the to field.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

David Griffith
 

Have he gone into Outlook options – there are a lot of them – and turned off sound feedback?

David Griffith

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: 13 February 2020 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Has there been an answer to this issue?

one of my clients is experiencing the outlook sound when typing into the to field.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Robin,
Does insert + #5 (above the R key) tell you what you need?
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:24 PM
Subject: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Hi all,

Using JAWS 2019 with Office 365 and Windows 10.

I seem to be working with more people, including my new manager, who really like color coding in Excel.  I totally get it, as I can clearly understand how this visually makes looking at a large spreadsheet file easier, especially on calendar or schedule files.  The first project I had for my new manager was to take a color coded calendar she had from last summer and update it for this year, color coding each event based on whether I was able to secure the necessary room reservation.  My approach in this case was to hunt for color coded cells, and copy the color into a place off to the side, then clear all the colors and then paste the colors back in to new cells as I made the room reservations.  This is just an example.

 

Hear my question with the lens of someone who is losing more usable vision and adjusting to new leadership in my role.  I’m feeling a bit insecure about my abilities and am wondering if there are any tips from others who share spreadsheet files with sighted colleagues on managing colors and/or fancier layouts.  I’m intimidated by these large files my new manager is sending.  I’ve typically been the one creating the spreadsheet, so I could lay it out in my own way, but I’m taking on new job duties and inheriting files with lots of data that is just just a simple grid.

 

I guess I just need to hear of there are any tips or empathy out there. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

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moderated Re: Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Rayn Darren
 

Hi Robin,

Right off the bat, Aira is your friend! If that isn't an option and you still are able to use your vision, hold control down and roll the wheel on your mouse, it will enlarge the screen and hopefully you'll be able to see the colored cell. Barring that, pressing numpad 5 twice rapidly should tell you the color of the cell as well.

Don't give up hope, there's a solution out there!

I personally have to run in high contrast since the white of the screens trigger migraines, but I'm a website designer and use color all the time. I use Be My Eyes, Aira, or in a pinch a sighted helper to make sure all the colors I've used mesh. I also have a cheat sheet with many of the most popular, I think there's around two hundred  hex codes with descriptive names attached for ease of access. I know this doesn't quite fit your situation, just sharing ways that color can be accessed still. ~smile

HTH,

Sarah

On 2/13/2020 1:24 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi all,
Using JAWS 2019 with Office 365 and Windows 10.
I seem to be working with more people, including my new manager, who really like color coding in Excel. I totally get it, as I can clearly understand how this visually makes looking at a large spreadsheet file easier, especially on calendar or schedule files. The first project I had for my new manager was to take a color coded calendar she had from last summer and update it for this year, color coding each event based on whether I was able to secure the necessary room reservation. My approach in this case was to hunt for color coded cells, and copy the color into a place off to the side, then clear all the colors and then paste the colors back in to new cells as I made the room reservations. This is just an example.

Hear my question with the lens of someone who is losing more usable vision and adjusting to new leadership in my role. I'm feeling a bit insecure about my abilities and am wondering if there are any tips from others who share spreadsheet files with sighted colleagues on managing colors and/or fancier layouts. I'm intimidated by these large files my new manager is sending. I've typically been the one creating the spreadsheet, so I could lay it out in my own way, but I'm taking on new job duties and inheriting files with lots of data that is just just a simple grid.

I guess I just need to hear of there are any tips or empathy out there.




Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management
Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 | www.keyequipmentfinance.com<http://www.keyequipmentfinance.com/>

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moderated Ideas for handling color coded spreadsheets

Van Lant, Robin
 

Hi all,

Using JAWS 2019 with Office 365 and Windows 10.

I seem to be working with more people, including my new manager, who really like color coding in Excel.  I totally get it, as I can clearly understand how this visually makes looking at a large spreadsheet file easier, especially on calendar or schedule files.  The first project I had for my new manager was to take a color coded calendar she had from last summer and update it for this year, color coding each event based on whether I was able to secure the necessary room reservation.  My approach in this case was to hunt for color coded cells, and copy the color into a place off to the side, then clear all the colors and then paste the colors back in to new cells as I made the room reservations.  This is just an example.

 

Hear my question with the lens of someone who is losing more usable vision and adjusting to new leadership in my role.  I’m feeling a bit insecure about my abilities and am wondering if there are any tips from others who share spreadsheet files with sighted colleagues on managing colors and/or fancier layouts.  I’m intimidated by these large files my new manager is sending.  I’ve typically been the one creating the spreadsheet, so I could lay it out in my own way, but I’m taking on new job duties and inheriting files with lots of data that is just just a simple grid.

 

I guess I just need to hear of there are any tips or empathy out there. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager, Strategy & Performance Management

Key Equipment Finance | 720-304-1060 |  www.keyequipmentfinance.com 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Don & Cher
 

I have approx. 5 instances of Adobe listed there- all disabled. Perhaps
updates to IE or Adobe keep re-installing it?

Cher

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

This worked for me.

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:44:30 -0600

I assume this is happening in Internet Explorer.
Do the following .
Alt t - Tools
o - Internet Options
Control+tab to Programs
tab to Manage Add-ons
Tab to Filter combo box
Move up to all Add-ons and hit enter to select Tab to the list of add-ons
The Adobe entry should look like this.
Name Adobe PDF Reader
Publisher Adobe Inc.
Status Disabled
Architecture 32-bit and 64-bit
If it is not disabled you need to make this change.
Open parent document is caused by IE trying to open the document in the
browser. By disabling this add-on it should cause Adobe reader to be opened
externally so you can read the document.
--hth---

moderated Re: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

david
 

Has there been an answer to this issue?

one of my clients is experiencing the outlook sound when typing into the to field.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to stop sounds from playing in outlook when typing in the to field

 

Hi.

 

When I’m typing an e-mail, in the to field, jaws will play a sound that indicates recent people you’ve contacted. Is there a way to turn this off, and where do I find it?

 

Thanks.

moderated Re: start page and google chrome

george b
 

You need to  find the place where it lets you open with the new tab being your home page.  I cannot remember where to find it since I use edge now.

 

Hay I got an idea google it…

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via Groups.Io
Sent: February 13, 2020 9:40
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start page and google chrome

 

Hi folks,

I’ve looked under settings while in google chrome, let me see which version of chrome I’m using.

Ok, it says 80.o.9.3 or something like that.

When I launch chrome it says new tab, and I cannot seem to locate to have it go straight to my home page. Once more I went under settings, went all the way and checked the box where it states open a specific page or set of pages.

I’m still presented with the new tab thing when launching chrome and need to do alt home to get to the home page.

 

Thank you,

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https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Anomaly_To_Whom_This_May_Concern?id=Bxzxk5brhsmrltglj3sa6qzmgq4

 

moderated start page and google chrome

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi folks,

I’ve looked under settings while in google chrome, let me see which version of chrome I’m using.

Ok, it says 80.o.9.3 or something like that.

When I launch chrome it says new tab, and I cannot seem to locate to have it go straight to my home page. Once more I went under settings, went all the way and checked the box where it states open a specific page or set of pages.

I’m still presented with the new tab thing when launching chrome and need to do alt home to get to the home page.

 

Thank you,

Please consider purchasing my first single or streaming it via the below links:

https://music.apple.com/us/album/to-whom-this-may-concern-single/1497201383?app=itunes&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

https://open.spotify.com/album/5korQlO82EeGT4qdJ65Pa6

https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Anomaly_To_Whom_This_May_Concern?id=Bxzxk5brhsmrltglj3sa6qzmgq4

 

moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Dave Durber
 

Hello Glen:
 
Don't worry, I have not performed any file activity on that drive, since I deleted the folder.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Hi Dave,
I'm surprised that the scan found nothing.
Hopefully you did not copy and/or download more files, as if that area of the HD gets written over, it may not be able to retrieve them.
I'll see what else it can do.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello Glen:
 
I did what you suggested. I do not need to use a partition manager. There is nothing wrong with the hard drive on which the deleted files are located. I tried to use Recuva but, I did not find the program very user friendly. I managed to get the program to perform a scan on the particular hard drive, but the scan was inconclusive.
 
Do you have any further suggestions as to other programs I can try.
 
Thank you for any stggestions
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

There are good tools on the WinPe ISO.
Actually, if you have WinPe on a USB drive or a DVD, in the root there is a folder called "programs".
Copy that to your c: root and there are good file and partition recovery tools there that will run in your Windows, without booting to WinPe.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello everyone:
 
The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.
 
In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.
 
I hou someone on the list can help.
 
 

moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Dave,
I'm surprised that the scan found nothing.
Hopefully you did not copy and/or download more files, as if that area of the HD gets written over, it may not be able to retrieve them.
I'll see what else it can do.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello Glen:
 
I did what you suggested. I do not need to use a partition manager. There is nothing wrong with the hard drive on which the deleted files are located. I tried to use Recuva but, I did not find the program very user friendly. I managed to get the program to perform a scan on the particular hard drive, but the scan was inconclusive.
 
Do you have any further suggestions as to other programs I can try.
 
Thank you for any stggestions
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

There are good tools on the WinPe ISO.
Actually, if you have WinPe on a USB drive or a DVD, in the root there is a folder called "programs".
Copy that to your c: root and there are good file and partition recovery tools there that will run in your Windows, without booting to WinPe.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello everyone:
 
The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.
 
In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.
 
I hou someone on the list can help.
 
 

moderated Re: Accessible File Recovery software

Dave Durber
 

Hello Glen:
 
I did what you suggested. I do not need to use a partition manager. There is nothing wrong with the hard drive on which the deleted files are located. I tried to use Recuva but, I did not find the program very user friendly. I managed to get the program to perform a scan on the particular hard drive, but the scan was inconclusive.
 
Do you have any further suggestions as to other programs I can try.
 
Thank you for any stggestions
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible File Recovery software

There are good tools on the WinPe ISO.
Actually, if you have WinPe on a USB drive or a DVD, in the root there is a folder called "programs".
Copy that to your c: root and there are good file and partition recovery tools there that will run in your Windows, without booting to WinPe.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
Subject: Accessible File Recovery software

Hello everyone:
 
The subject says it all. I accidentally deleted the contents of a folder on one of my hard drives. So, now, I am looking for file recovery software which is accessible using a screen reader, so I can try and recover the deleted files.
 
In the past, I have used File Scavenger, but I found it finiky to use. One of my difficulties was, recovering deleted files in a specific folder location.
 
I hou someone on the list can help.
 
 

moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

Rayn Darren
 

I actually missed the OP of this topic, I think, so sorry for responding out of order.

Ms Goodwitch, lovely name btw, would you mind contacting me offlist, I have an idea for you. :)

rayndarren@...

Thanks,

Sarah

On 2/12/2020 1:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And it will of course depend somewhat on your skill, there are OK scripters and good scripters and then there are the few outstanding ones like Brian Hartgen.
I had somebody write some script for me once (I am not going to mention a name) and I ended up paying him $500 for a rather small script to do one thing in one of my point of sale applications and it only ever worked so-so.
He worked on it for a few hours via Jaws Tandem, can’t remember the exact time, but I certainly did not feel like I got a very good deal. I think if you are starting out you may not be able to charge top Dollar until you made a name for yourself.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of goodwitch
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

So, I'm actually not a JAWS script developer (at least not yet). But I wanted to get a feel for the rates. And I didn't want to assume that $150 was the only rate.

Interestingly enough, I found a firm in the UK that does a lot of JAWS scripting work, and they charge $60 and hour. They also have a big backlog of work. They said, they couldn't even start on a JAWS scripting job until April. The firm is Hartgen Consultancy http://www.hartgen.org/accessible

Thank y'all for your responses. In my mind..I'm now thinking that the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is likely between $60 and $150, depending on where in the world you are. I also realize that the rate could be higher or lower than that...I was just looking for a ballpark number (and I am in the United States).

Peace out,
G


moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Ann Byrne
 

This worked for me.

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:44:30 -0600

I assume this is happening in Internet Explorer.
Do the following .
Alt t - Tools
o - Internet Options
Control+tab to Programs
tab to Manage Add-ons
Tab to Filter combo box
Move up to all Add-ons and hit enter to select
Tab to the list of add-ons
The Adobe entry should look like this.
Name Adobe PDF Reader
Publisher Adobe Inc.
Status Disabled
Architecture 32-bit and 64-bit
If it is not disabled you need to make this change.
Open parent document is caused by IE trying to open the document in the
browser. By disabling this add-on it should cause Adobe reader to be opened
externally so you can read the document.
--hth---

moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, there comes a time when when older technology must be left behind.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

And that applies in reverse as well. I have started to switch to a new point of sale solution for my store, it is called Lightspeed POS, and it is an online system where everything is done in the browser.
They provide support for Firefox and Google Chrome, the new Chromium based Edge also seems to work well, but you can't use IE for this any more.
IE still gets some security updates and I don't know if there is a set date when it will be unsupported or even removed from Windows, but I can't see this taking more than another 2 or 3 years at most especially now that Edge seems to have found its place in the world and with more and more websites upgrading to the latest standards which IE simply won't support any more.
. Anyways, every so often I check something in IE and it drives me crazy how slow it is compared to Chrome or Edge.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
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-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
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-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
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-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
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-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
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-->class=MsoNormal><span
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-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
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<div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both"></div>
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

 

And that applies in reverse as well. I have started to switch to a new point of sale solution for my store, it is called Lightspeed POS, and it is an online system where everything is done in the browser.
They provide support for Firefox and Google Chrome, the new Chromium based Edge also seems to work well, but you can't use IE for this any more.
IE still gets some security updates and I don't know if there is a set date when it will be unsupported or even removed from Windows, but I can't see this taking more than another 2 or 3 years at most especially now that Edge seems to have found its place in the world and with more and more websites upgrading to the latest standards which IE simply won't support any more.
. Anyways, every so often I check something in IE and it drives me crazy how slow it is compared to Chrome or Edge.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
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-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

<div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both"></div>
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

And it will of course depend somewhat on your skill, there are OK scripters and good scripters and then there are the few outstanding ones like Brian Hartgen.

I had somebody write some script for me once (I am not going to mention a name) and I ended up paying him $500 for a rather small script to do one thing in one of my point of sale applications and it only ever worked so-so.

He worked on it for a few hours via Jaws Tandem, can’t remember the exact time, but I certainly did not feel like I got a very good deal. I think if you are starting out you may not be able to charge top Dollar until you made a name for yourself.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of goodwitch
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly rate for JAWS scripting

 

So, I'm actually not a JAWS script developer (at least not yet).  But I wanted to get a feel for the rates.  And I didn't want to assume that $150 was the only rate.

Interestingly enough, I found a firm in the UK that does a lot of JAWS scripting work, and they charge $60 and hour.  They also have a big backlog of work.  They said, they couldn't even start on a JAWS scripting job until April. The firm is Hartgen Consultancy http://www.hartgen.org/accessible  

Thank y'all for your responses.  In my mind..I'm now thinking that the hourly rate for JAWS scripting is likely between $60 and $150, depending on where in the world you are.  I also realize that the rate could be higher or lower than that...I was just looking for a ballpark number (and I am in the United States).

Peace out,
G

moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
IE may be slow and not the first , go to, browser but IE remains the only one that consistently works with most sites and in some cases only one used by a company.
I use Chrome but still find that IE works at those times Chrome fails.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
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-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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moderated Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

 

It may be the solution, but as far as I am concerned forget about IE, it's slow and clunky and I bet nobody writes Extensions for it, sorry, I should have said add-ons since IE doesn't support extensions.
At this point and in my opinion the best browser to use is Edge followed by Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers.
.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Tim,
The solution Ann Byrne provided earlier will get rid of the Open parent document and cause PDF's opened in Internet Explorer to be opened in Adobe Reader. This is the standard solution for IE.
DD


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

Thanks very much for the tip! I just checked using Chrome, and it works just like you describe. So Chrome is the clear solution. I would still like to get IE configured to give me a solution like Chrome uses. Does anyone know how I can do that?

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Avoiding that "open parent document" button in Adobe.

I am using firefox or chrome and do not get this at all, it gives me the option to save the file or open it in my current default reader.
My only problem is that sometimes when I open the document, I don't get anything, but it usually works.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:55:59 -0500,
Shirley Tracy wrote:

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-->class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m having the same issues. I
-->can’t seem to make it work. I need to read my prior bank
-->statements. They are only available in PDF. I’m sick of that Open
-->Parent Window button. It does nothing.</p><p class=MsoNormal>
--></p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal>Shirley</p><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Shirley
-->Tracy</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div
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-->style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a
-->href="mailto:don.mauck@...">Don Mauck</a><br><b>Sent:
--></b>Tuesday, February 11, 2020 6:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a
-->href="mailto:main@jfw.groups.io">main@jfw.groups.io</a><br><b>Subje
-->ct: </b>Re: Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button
-->in Adobe.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim, you can change it
-->in the Window settings App.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might need to do a
-->search in the Apps search box for “default”, chose Default Files.
-->There are a lot of extensions in the group, but you can tab until
-->you finally &nbsp;get to PDF. The default will be Edge, press inter
-->then find your choice and press inter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Usually you can
-->highlight a file, press the applications key and look for “open
-->With,” but I didn’t see it on the PDF file I
-->chose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div
-->style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
-->0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Ford
-->&lt;ttford@...&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11,
-->2020 4:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> main@jfw.groups.io<br><b>Subject:</b>
-->Avoiding that &quot;open parent document&quot; button in
-->Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi
-->All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>When I am using
-->Internet Explorer and press on a link that goes to a PDF document,
-->it opens with only a button to “open parent document”.&nbsp; Try as
-->I might, nothing happens, and I cannot get to the document.&nbsp;
-->The type of link is one where it does not give me the option of
-->saving the target.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How can I set things up
-->so I either get the option of opening or saving, or that the
-->document opens with Adobe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
-->class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tim
-->Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p
-->class=MsoNormal></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
-->style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
-->Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>

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