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List Rules

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The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

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**List Policies**

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

thanks, Alan. that works. Not convenient, but workable. FS says you can't read just the visible text; fun to prove them wrong. (LOL)

At 08:49 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
Hi Ann,

The best workaround I've come up with to give you what you want is to turn
on wrap text for the format of the column you're checking as explained in my
previous post. When you place focus on the cell with the text you're
checking, for example the cell containing Wednesday is the middle of the
week per your original post, press F2 to edit that cell, and press ctrl +
home, Fusion speaks what is displayed in line 1 of the wrapped text. It will
speak the other wrapped lines as you arrow up and down while in edit mode.
Based on what is spoken for the first line, you can work out what is
truncated when wrap text is turned off.

I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to
know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit
the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space 2. Press Alt+H to get
to the Home Tab 3. Press ZC For Cell 4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width









moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Tony
 

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

 

Hi Ann,

The best workaround I've come up with to give you what you want is to turn
on wrap text for the format of the column you're checking as explained in my
previous post. When you place focus on the cell with the text you're
checking, for example the cell containing Wednesday is the middle of the
week per your original post, press F2 to edit that cell, and press ctrl +
home, Fusion speaks what is displayed in line 1 of the wrapped text. It will
speak the other wrapped lines as you arrow up and down while in edit mode.
Based on what is spoken for the first line, you can work out what is
truncated when wrap text is turned off.

I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to
know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit
the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space 2. Press Alt+H to get
to the Home Tab 3. Press ZC For Cell 4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width


moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

 

Hi Ann,

Thanks for letting us know of the Vispero response that there is no way to
set JAWS to only read the visible text. I'm not sure I agree with their
suggestion that your best bet is to widen the column to fit. That sort of
depends on who's using the spreadsheet and what your ultimate goal is as
well as the data being displayed. I prefer to select the column, press ctrl
+ 1 to open the formatting dialog, and press ctrl + tab or ctrl + shift +
tab to move to the Alignment tab, and press alt + w to check the wrap text
checkbox followed by enter. This will cause the text in that cell to wrap
and display on as many lines as needed based on the column width. It appears
much better visually especially when the column contains text entries of
various widths.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

thanks for the response. Here's what Vispero says:
Thank you for contacting Technical Support.

Unfortunately, there is no way to just have JAWS read the visible text.
your best bet here is to widen the column so that all the text will fit.


At 02:19 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
Ann,
I'm sorry this doesn't totally answer your question but it may help
a little. If you go into JAWS Quick Settings with insert-V, then in
the edit box type in "cell text visibility" it should come up with
that option. If you enable this option it will tell you if it
overlaps and about how many cells it overlaps to. But,
unfortunately, I'm not aware of how to get it to read only the text
you're seeking.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

thanks, Justin. F2 reads the full contents of the cell, whether it
is visible on the screen or not. I want a command that reads only
the 8 or so characters in the cell I am in, not the total contents
that overflow behind the next cell.
At 08:45 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I
try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.

















moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

NFB Lab 4
 

Hi Ann,
I hope some of this sheds some light on your issue.
To turn on cell text announcement you hit insert v for quick settings while
in excel. Type in cell text and arrow down to cell text visability detect
and space to turn it on. This will announce when something is truncated.

Now,
As far as I know there is no way to have it tell you what is shown, but
remember that 10 characters can be seen with the default column width and
font size. .

Sorry if this didn't help.
Take care,
Thom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to
know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.
At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit
the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space 2. Press Alt+H to get
to the Home Tab 3. Press ZC For Cell 4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width


moderated Re: sluggish Thunderbird email client

Chris Hill
 

No idea, have been using it for years.  About all I can suggest is turn the message pane off under view, that might slow it down.


CH

On 6/30/2021 18:20, leonard morris wrote:
I am using Thunderbird email V78 and Jaws 2021. I have noticed Thunderbird is very sluggish when typing or navigating using the arrow keys. Do you have any suggestions how to fix this issue?





moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

Thank you. I don't want to change the size of the cell. what I want is to know which characters are visible on the screen when a cell is truncated.

At 05:50 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width


moderated sluggish Thunderbird email client

leonard morris
 

I am using Thunderbird email V78 and Jaws 2021. I have noticed Thunderbird is very sluggish when typing or navigating using the arrow keys. Do you have any suggestions how to fix this issue?


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Boston, Jason W
 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

-------------------------------------------------------------
WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
--------------------------------------------------------------

What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Rebecca Clark
 

Hi Ann
Not sure if this is helpful, or you are already aware, but to auto-fit the column width to the text in it you can do the following.

1.Select the Column you are in with Ctrl+ Space
2. Press Alt+H to get to the Home Tab
3. Press ZC For Cell 
4. Press O for Format Cell
5 Press I for Auto- format column width


moderated Re: question

Milton Ota
 

In that same section you also have a checkbox to change messages at the left of the braille display. If it is checked, press the spacebar and uncheck the box.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question

yes I found it but it saying none
and I still have funny letter front still there thankds Rosie


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Milton Ota" <mota1252@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 3:54 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: question

I don't know if it will work with Windows 7 but you will find it by
doing the following:

1. Hold the Insert Key and press the number 6 in the number row of the
main keyboard.

2. Press and hold down Ctrl + Shft and press the letter D.

3. Tab Once and arrow down to Braille and press the right arrow key.
This will open the sub-section of Braille and down arrow to Advance.

4. Press your right arrow key to open another subsection and you will
see the setting for the status cells and if you want to turn it off,
keep pressing your spacebar until you hear none.

HTH


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question

Hi
I wonder if anyone know how to turn off I think it call status cell
that I could not find it from jaw 21 window 7.
thanks Rosie













moderated Re: question

meow meow
 

yes I found it but it saying none
and I still have funny letter front still there
thankds Rosie


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Milton Ota" <mota1252@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 3:54 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: question

I don't know if it will work with Windows 7 but you will find it by doing the following:

1. Hold the Insert Key and press the number 6 in the number row of the main keyboard.

2. Press and hold down Ctrl + Shft and press the letter D.

3. Tab Once and arrow down to Braille and press the right arrow key. This will open the sub-section of Braille and down arrow to Advance.

4. Press your right arrow key to open another subsection and you will see the setting for the status cells and if you want to turn it off, keep pressing your spacebar until you hear none.

HTH


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question

Hi
I wonder if anyone know how to turn off I think it call status cell that I could not find it from jaw 21 window 7.
thanks Rosie












moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Ann Byrne
 

thanks for the response. Here's what Vispero says:
Thank you for contacting Technical Support.

Unfortunately, there is no way to just have JAWS read the visible text. your best bet here is to widen the column so that all the text will fit.

At 02:19 PM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
Ann,
I'm sorry this doesn't totally answer your question but it may help a little. If you go into JAWS Quick Settings with insert-V, then in the edit box type in "cell text visibility" it should come up with that option. If you enable this option it will tell you if it overlaps and about how many cells it overlaps to. But, unfortunately, I'm not aware of how to get it to read only the text you're seeking.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

thanks, Justin. F2 reads the full contents of the cell, whether it is visible on the screen or not. I want a command that reads only the 8 or so characters in the cell I am in, not the total contents that overflow behind the next cell.
At 08:45 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I
try?

Thx,
'blank'.





.

















moderated Re: question

Milton Ota
 

I don't know if it will work with Windows 7 but you will find it by doing the following:

1. Hold the Insert Key and press the number 6 in the number row of the main keyboard.

2. Press and hold down Ctrl + Shft and press the letter D.

3. Tab Once and arrow down to Braille and press the right arrow key. This will open the sub-section of Braille and down arrow to Advance.

4. Press your right arrow key to open another subsection and you will see the setting for the status cells and if you want to turn it off, keep pressing your spacebar until you hear none.

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question

Hi
I wonder if anyone know how to turn off I think it call status cell that I could not find it from jaw 21 window 7.
thanks Rosie


moderated question

meow meow
 

Hi
I wonder if anyone know how to turn off I think it call status cell that I could not find it from jaw 21
window 7.
thanks Rosie


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Shan Noyes
 

Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

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What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


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Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Scott Pearl
 

Ann,
I'm sorry this doesn't totally answer your question but it may help a little. If you go into JAWS Quick Settings with insert-V, then in the edit box type in "cell text visibility" it should come up with that option. If you enable this option it will tell you if it overlaps and about how many cells it overlaps to. But, unfortunately, I'm not aware of how to get it to read only the text you're seeking.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

thanks, Justin. F2 reads the full contents of the cell, whether it is visible on the screen or not. I want a command that reads only the 8 or so characters in the cell I am in, not the total contents that overflow behind the next cell.
At 08:45 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
F2 will read text in a cell.
It will say edit, and you can reas whatever is in the cell.


Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I
try?

Thx,
'blank'.





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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Justin Williams
 

What was the solution?

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading visible text in a cell

seeing your response to Justin's post, I misunderstood your question.
But I'm glad it's been solved for you.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with the JAWS cursor.
At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points. It overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells. How can I determine what is actually displayed in a1? F2 reads all the text, whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





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moderated Re: Reading visible text in a cell

Mario
 

seeing your response to Justin's post, I misunderstood your question. But I'm glad it's been solved for you.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Using Excel 2019 with JAWS 2021 latest, I can't read visible text with
the JAWS cursor.
At 08:33 AM 6/30/2021, you wrote:
using the JAWS cursor to read the text on the screen is the only way
that I'm aware of. if there's another way, I'd like to know as well.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Reading visible text in a cell
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
The text "Wednesday is the middle of the week" has been entered into
cell a1 of a spreadsheet with default width of 8.11 points.  It
overlaps, of course into at least the next two cells.  How can I
determine what is actually displayed in a1?  F2 reads all the text,
whether displayed or not. Routing JAWS to PC speaks
What else can I try?

Thx,
'blank'.





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