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moderated windows 10 update 21h1

Juan Hernandez
 

Hi All,

 

This is regarding the latest windows 10 update, 21h1.

 

Have you noticed that your alt+tabbing has become weird? I have noticed now that when I alt tab around, I often land on something that is fully quiet and Jaws doesn’t read anything.  I either have to keep hitting alt+tab, or something else like windows key to get out of it.  Also, the title bars of my windows aren’t reading correctly everytime.

 

If anyone has any tips on this new windows 10 experience with alt+tab please let me know

 

Best,

Juan


moderated Re: scripts for MS Teams

Juan Hernandez
 

To share you screen you can always use ctrl+shift+e to access those options in a call/meeting etc.

 

Best,

 

Juan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Just starting with Teams.  I’m doing fairly well with the free scripts and have listened to the Hartgen audio description. 

 

One thing I have run up against, and did not hear on the audio, is settings in Teams.  Sharing my computer audio is easy but sharing my screen is a graphic that I can’t find and don’t always have sighted help available. 

 

I assume there are probably other hidden controls as well.  Does Hartgen’s scripts provide access to these controls?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Excellent feedback, just the kind of info I’m looking for about his scripts. How does it handle the teams and channels tab?

 

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


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Hi:

 

I’ve been using ms Teams for almost 2 years now.  Initially just used the scripts included with Jaws, then tried out the free scripts from Doug Lee, and a month ago purchased the Teams course as well as the scripts from Brian Hartgen.

 

The first thing I would like to point out about Brian’s scripts  is that he has put a lot of emphasis on being efficient.  There are lots of commands in his scripts that make a user extremely efficient when working with Teams.

 

e.g.

 

  1. A key stroke to tell you the status of the mike when on a teams call.
  2. A key stroke to list all the participants in the meeting
  3. A key board command to jump to and display the conversations in a meeting.
  4. A keyboard command that will bring the ms teams into focus from any other location.  Extremely useful.
  5. Ability to assign sounds to notifications etc.

Although I’ve been using ms teams for almost 2 years, I’ve experienced some difficulties in areas like working with team feeds as compared to the chats

So I’ve found his ms teams course extremely helpful. 

 

Note: I’ve attended webinars from both Microsoft Accessibility desk, and Vispero.  These webinars were good to get you going, but to really use the full capability of ms teams Brian’s course is great.

 

So if you are concerned with being as efficient when working with ms Teams as your sighted colleagues then Brian’s course and scripts are worth the cost.  As well Brian fully supports his work, he has an email group for questions and one can always ask for new features to be included in the scripts and if they make sense he adds them.

 

Anyways, I’m very happy with both the course and the scripts.

 

If you have any other specific questions please feel free to write me at any time.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

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What does the Brian Hartgen  scripts offer that JFW does not already include in the out of the box scripts? I’m looking for impressions from those who have used both.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 


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Hi Milton and all,

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Cheers,

Rob

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: June 24, 2021 10:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi you can find old scripts at:

https://www.dlee.org

 

I believe these scripts are free but they are not up-to-date.

 

You can buy scripts from Brian Hartgen as he has done a webinar and has scripts that you can buy from his website at:

http://www.hartgen.org

 

Payment can be made through Paypal

 

HTH

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for MS Teams

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for scripts to work with MS Teams. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob

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moderated Re: List status

Ken Chernack
 

Thanks for the replies.

Glad to know that nothing is broke.

 

BTW, the American Council of the Blind (ACB) virtual conference starts Friday for a week.

 

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 11:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List status

 

Some lists go quiet for various reasons.  For example the unofficial school guide dog list I’m on has gone quiet because of an annual convention. Ones are either at the convention or just busy getting their lives back together with restrictions being lifted.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2021 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List status

 

Not that I am aware of.  It has been quiet.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List status

 

I have not received emails for a few days.

Does this list have server problems?

What’s going on?

Might the techies at Verizon put this list on ‘no good’ list?

Thanks.

Ken

 

 


moderated Braille problem

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, I have a question here. My friend shared a copy of her Jaws
configuration with me to diagnose a problem that occurred in her
settings. I never experienced this problem before so therefore i need
some help.
The problem is when she use her display to operate Jaws, it will
display contracted braille everywhere she navigate her Jaws to but in
microsoft Word.
i tried to solve the problem but I can't seem to track it down. If you
know what is the problem, please respond to this email so I can adjust
her settings back to where it suppose to be.
Thanks
Best regards
Michael Munn


Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of
the Blind of Georgia

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moderated Embossers

Jim Portillo
 

What are people’s recommendations for a good but inexpensive Braille embosser that is more on the portable side of things? I don’t need a lot of bells and whistles, such as the ability to create high end graphics and such.

At one time, back in my college days, I had the Braille Blazer, and I loved it. It was small enough to move without any issues.

What’s good these days?

Jim

 


moderated Re: List status

David Diamond
 

Some lists go quiet for various reasons.  For example the unofficial school guide dog list I’m on has gone quiet because of an annual convention. Ones are either at the convention or just busy getting their lives back together with restrictions being lifted.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2021 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List status

 

Not that I am aware of.  It has been quiet.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List status

 

I have not received emails for a few days.

Does this list have server problems?

What’s going on?

Might the techies at Verizon put this list on ‘no good’ list?

Thanks.

Ken

 

 


moderated Re: List status

Justin Williams
 

I got your e-mail.

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List status

 

I have not received emails for a few days.

Does this list have server problems?

What’s going on?

Might the techies at Verizon put this list on ‘no good’ list?

Thanks.

Ken

 

 


moderated Re: List status

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Not that I am aware of.  It has been quiet.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: List status

 

I have not received emails for a few days.

Does this list have server problems?

What’s going on?

Might the techies at Verizon put this list on ‘no good’ list?

Thanks.

Ken

 

 


moderated List status

Ken Chernack
 

I have not received emails for a few days.

Does this list have server problems?

What’s going on?

Might the techies at Verizon put this list on ‘no good’ list?

Thanks.

Ken

 

 


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moderated Re: Excel Slowing Down Editing Formulas

Van Lant, Robin
 

Like Mario, I see this sluggishness a fair amount. I'm in Excel all day long and do find it helps to close and even to sign out of Windows to clear it. I know my screen is maximized, as is the child window, but I will try Randy's suggestion.

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When I hit F2 to edit a formula or cell in Excel, everything slows down. It takes a second to read a character when pressing left or right arrow. This is making editing in Excel extremely frustrating. I am using the latest version of JAWS and office 365 downloaded to my computer.

Does anyone have any suggestion on an Excel setting or JAWS setting I should change?

Randy Meyer








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moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Dave Durber
 


Bill:
 
Thank you for the clarrification.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Hi, again, Dave. I just checked, and what I get is as follows, In step 10, I have an OK button. If I press that, I tab again, and in step 11, as you said, there is an Apply button. If I press that, I can TAB, and there is another OK button. If I press that, I have no need to close Settings Center with ALT plus F4. So, in actuality I left out a step after step 11 and there could be a step 12. I don't like using ALT plus F4 to close windows in recent years, as it sometimes leads to behaviors other than what I expect, such as windows not closing, or even the closing of more than one window. I suspect that you are correct, though, in saying that after step 10, you can press ALT plus F4 and close the window. What I do, Dave is, when I am outlining a procedure, I am actually performing the operation on a second computer, while I am writing down the steps on the first computer. I don't know how I missed the Apply button, but I did. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Bill:

 

In steps 10 and 11, the instructions should be:

 

10. TAB to the Apply button, and press SPACE.

 

11. TAB to the OK button and press SPACE then, press ALT+F4, to close the Settings Center.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 



On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Dave Durber
 


Bill:
 
I wonder why the same program, such as JFW, should work differently, for different users?
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Hi, Dave. In steps 10 and 11, for me, in step 10, if I tab, I get an OK button, not an Apply button. In step 11, if I tab to the OK button, and press Space or Enter, it automatically closes Settings Center, so there is no need to use ALT plus F4.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Bill:

 

In steps 10 and 11, the instructions should be:

 

10. TAB to the Apply button, and press SPACE.

 

11. TAB to the OK button and press SPACE then, press ALT+F4, to close the Settings Center.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 



On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

To me, that is on the sender of the email.  If it is a true Blockquote, they should say something in their message about the source, or whatever.

When I ran into this yesterday, someone just forwarded an email and it came as a blockquote but it was completely obvious this was a forward because the email had the FW: and the person wrote no personal comments so the full heading of the original email was there, so the extraneous verbiage about it being a blockquote was pointless.

 

But I understand your point and it is a very good one.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Richare. My problem with turning off the block quote setting is that, when it is off, you can't tell the quotation from the rest of the email, since there are no quotation marks in a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Thanks Bill,

What confused me about this setting is that the word “blockquote” appears in the text instead of just speaking that this is a blockquote, so if you copy the body of the email, you get the words blockquote and Blockquote end, and frankly, since I know what a blockquote is, and don’t really care to hear it announced, turning it off is an excellent tip, thank you for that.

Perhaps in a Word document, I might care about formatting like that, but not in an email.  But that is my personal preference and I’m stuck with it. 😊

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: After purchasing SMA?

David Diamond
 

Let’s see.  At least 2 garden hoses, dog leashes not including seat belt harnesses, computer accessories, coffee, flea meds for my guide, range extenders for my WIFI, kitchen utensil’s, including a coffee pot replacement for a coffee maker I purchased through Amazon  Etc. Anyway this is veering off topic.  Smile.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July 10, 2021 8:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

I am not sure what you are ordering because as I said, apart from the odd item which comes from a seller in the States GST and PST always apply to anything I order unless it is, for some reason, tax exempt like maybe some food staples and so on.

And your message definitely very much sounded like you were saying a prime membership would get you items tax-free, you wrote:

 

I have a prime membership which pretty much makes paying taxes on purchases a non issue.  No taxes are paid or shipping for that matter

 

The shipping part of course is clear and is outlined exactly on the Amazon Canada page where all the benefits are explained, but there is nothing which indicates that a prime membership " makes paying taxes on purchases a non issue":

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=vnid_G6LDPN7YJHYKH2J6?nodeId=G6LDPN7YJHYKH2J6

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

Sieghard , I was not implying or meaning to imply that a Amazon prime membership allowed you not to pay taxes.  Jus, I rarely have had to pay provincial or HST on any products I’ve purchased from Amazon. When ones purchases exceed $100 frequently, 12% taxes is $12 in taxes. That adds up.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: July 9, 2021 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

Hi David,

 

I'm sorry, but what gives you the idea that an Amazon Prime membership means Amazon doesn't have to charge you taxes? I order a fair bit from Amazon since I live in a very small town where I often can't find the same selection as you get in the big city and I have a personal Amazon account with a prime membership as well as an Amazon business account with Amazon Business Prime and except in a few cases where the item comes from a seller outside of Canada and it is not veryt expensive 5% GST and 7% PST (I live in British Columbia) are always applied to every purchase.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

Well, I had no idea sales tax was applied to the SMA in the United States.  In Canada if you can prove you have a vision problem, registered with the CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) you are tax exempt from the purchase of the SMA.  As for Amazon, although not related, I have a prime membership which pretty much makes paying taxes on purchases a non issue.  No taxes are paid or shipping for that matter unless I don’t listen to the prompt of shipping costs.  There are times where the shipping cost is more then the actual item. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: July 7, 2021 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

I believe they are physically located in Florida. However, this does not matter. My zipcode is in Sacramento therefore I pay sales tax there. Amazon is out of Seattle I think but again I have to pay sales tax according to my zipcode. The state of Oregon has no sales tax so no taxes on purchased items unless they have a law for Internet purchased products.  

 

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Mario <mrb620@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:40:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: After purchasing SMA?

 

maybe I'm not getting it, but the issue for me is FS doesn't have a
physical presence in New York, so why am I being charged sales tax?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Lemly [mailto:walemly@...]
Subject: After purchasing SMA?
Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:43 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Mario,

The application of sales tax is a function of where you reside and your
state’s laws regarding whether sales tax applies to computer software
and its various forms. If your state applies sales tax to software and
Freedom Scientific has a physical presence in your state, Freedom
Scientific is obligated to collect sales tax and remit it to the state.
The sales tax should be calculated on the discounted price of the
software or SMA.

Like other tax laws, application of sales tax is an ever changing
situation. So, just because it did not apply in the past, doesn’t mean
it won’t in the future.

Alan Lemly

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shirley Tracy
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 7, 2021 9:22 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: After purchasing SMA?

Did you order online? I had to call in and they are refunding me the
over charge.

HTH.

Shirley Tracy

*From: *Mario <mailto:mrb620@...>
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 7, 2021 10:10 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: After purchasing SMA?

not sure if I should complain, but before purchasing mine and applying

the 20% discount, there was sales tax added which now reduces the value

of the discount to about 12%. in previous years when I upgraded the SMA,

I never had to pay a sales tax. what should I do, let it slide or

contact Erik?

-------- Original Message --------

From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@... <mailto:mb69mach1@...>]

Subject: After purchasing SMA?

Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 7:44 PM

To: <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Hi Loy,

I updated my SMA to 2023 & 2024 over the weekend and today I got a

message to update my authorization when J2021 started.  I got this

authorization update message for each computer, so you'll probably

getting the same message pretty soon.

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.

Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Loy <mailto:loyrg2845@... <mailto:loyrg2845@...>>

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

*Sent:* Tuesday, July 06, 2021 6:45 AM

*Subject:* After purchasing SMA?

After purchasing a SMA, how do I get it to show  the new amount of

upgrades I have.




moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Bill White
 

Hi, Richare. My problem with turning off the block quote setting is that, when it is off, you can't tell the quotation from the rest of the email, since there are no quotation marks in a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Thanks Bill,

What confused me about this setting is that the word “blockquote” appears in the text instead of just speaking that this is a blockquote, so if you copy the body of the email, you get the words blockquote and Blockquote end, and frankly, since I know what a blockquote is, and don’t really care to hear it announced, turning it off is an excellent tip, thank you for that.

Perhaps in a Word document, I might care about formatting like that, but not in an email.  But that is my personal preference and I’m stuck with it. 😊

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Thanks Bill,

What confused me about this setting is that the word “blockquote” appears in the text instead of just speaking that this is a blockquote, so if you copy the body of the email, you get the words blockquote and Blockquote end, and frankly, since I know what a blockquote is, and don’t really care to hear it announced, turning it off is an excellent tip, thank you for that.

Perhaps in a Word document, I might care about formatting like that, but not in an email.  But that is my personal preference and I’m stuck with it. 😊

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 10:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Bill White
 

Hi, again, Dave. I just checked, and what I get is as follows, In step 10, I have an OK button. If I press that, I tab again, and in step 11, as you said, there is an Apply button. If I press that, I can TAB, and there is another OK button. If I press that, I have no need to close Settings Center with ALT plus F4. So, in actuality I left out a step after step 11 and there could be a step 12. I don't like using ALT plus F4 to close windows in recent years, as it sometimes leads to behaviors other than what I expect, such as windows not closing, or even the closing of more than one window. I suspect that you are correct, though, in saying that after step 10, you can press ALT plus F4 and close the window. What I do, Dave is, when I am outlining a procedure, I am actually performing the operation on a second computer, while I am writing down the steps on the first computer. I don't know how I missed the Apply button, but I did. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Bill:

 

In steps 10 and 11, the instructions should be:

 

10. TAB to the Apply button, and press SPACE.

 

11. TAB to the OK button and press SPACE then, press ALT+F4, to close the Settings Center.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 



On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

Bill White
 

Hi, Dave. In steps 10 and 11, for me, in step 10, if I tab, I get an OK button, not an Apply button. In step 11, if I tab to the OK button, and press Space or Enter, it automatically closes Settings Center, so there is no need to use ALT plus F4.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Bill:

 

In steps 10 and 11, the instructions should be:

 

10. TAB to the Apply button, and press SPACE.

 

11. TAB to the OK button and press SPACE then, press ALT+F4, to close the Settings Center.

 

HTH

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 6:37 AM

Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

Hi, Albert and Richard. JAWS does not substitute the words block quote for the html code by mistake. This is an indication that a block quote is being read. A block quote is a section of text that is being quoted, and is indented about three spaces both on the left and on the right side of the text. If you want this turned off, you can do the following,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press JAWS key plus the number six on the numbers row, to open JAWS Settings Center.

3. Arrow down to Web/Html/Pdf's closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

4. Arrow down to Reading, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

5. Arrow down, and check which verbocity level is set for your configuration of Outlook. It will say either High, Medium, or Low.

6. Once you have found which verbocity level applies to your configuration of Outlook, proceed to step 7.

7. Arrow down to Configure Web Verbocity Levels, closed, and press Right Arrow to open.

8. Find the verbocity level that you need to change. It will be the one (High, Medium, or Low) from above, and press the SPACE BAR to open the configuration menu.

9. Find Block Quotation (it should be at or near the top of the list), and if it is checked, uncheck it.

10. TAB to the OK button, and press SPACE.

11. TAB to the second OK button and press SPACE.

 

Now that the Block Quote indication is turned off, you will not hear the words Block Quote when traversing a block quote. Note, however, that this is an indication of how text is formatted, and if you wish to know if you are on a block quote when this indicator is turned off, you will need to look at the beginning of a line and check if there are more spaces than usual to know if you are reading a block quote.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook cuts off some of the words on a line.

 

First, make sure the window is Maximized. 

Jaws substitutes the html code for a blockquote, with the words for some very confusing reason.

Are you reading line by line, or with Say All?

I have the same setup and have not experienced the cut off words.

Also, make sure there isn't another program open with a dialog that could be overlapping somehow.

Those are my best guesses.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 



On Jul 10, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Albert Cutolo <Albertc51@...> wrote:



Good evening everyone, 

 

It seems that whenever I’m reading messages that are open in outlook with office 365, and latest jaws 2021, some of the words in a line that’s being supposed to be read, it seems that some of the words get cut off  and I have too arrow down to complete the message that I’m reading.  I do have the reading pane turned off.  My question here is that, is there a setting that I need too change, and if so what is it, and how to I go about making that change.  Sometimes, I also get a message that says block quote, or block quote end before the   I’m able too start reading a message.            


moderated Re: power pi

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I have no idea what Power PI is but Freedom Scientific Training has done several videos available on Youtube for working with Microsoft Office.

Take Care!
Jonathan

On Jul 11, 2021, at 09:12, romance's prince via groups.io <romanticbiro=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

hello dears
is microsoft power pi accessible to use with jaws?
is any tutorial for it?

also, searching for tutorials for office 365 with jaws.
thanks




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