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Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

Tom Behler
 

Glad it worked for you, Sieghard.

 

I hope others will benefit from what I have shared, since this appears to be a major issue.

 

At least we have a work-around for the time being.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Thanks, I already tried your suggestion and it also worked for me. I guess when I called FS last week they either hadn’t tested this solution/work-around yet or the guy I spoke with didn’t know about it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Yes, that’s what I’m saying.

 

I’m not sure when I re-open Outlook after putting it in safe mode if it is still in safe mode, but re-opening it after the safe mode step seems to have fixed the problem for me.

 

Please let us know if this works for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Are you saying you just open Outlook in save mode once and then exit it and open it again normally and that fixes the issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I wanted to let you know that my Outlook 2016 address entry issue which was causing Outlook to crash has been resolved, at least for now.

 

I worked with Corrie from FS Support, and they are aware of the issue.

 

The temporary work-around is to run Outlook in safe mode.

 

Here are the steps for doing this:

 

1.  If you are in Outlook, close the program.

 

2.  Then, press windows R to go to the run dialog prompt.

 

3.  Type in outlook.exe followed by a space, and then /safe  and hit enter.

 

4.  Then, exit out of Outlook and go back again, and everything should function normally.

 

I’m not totally sure what safe mode is, but Corrie said it has something to do with eliminating add-ins that are active when Outlook is running normally.

 

I also asked Corrie about the problem I’m having with being unable to navigate entries in an Outlook e-mail group via the arrow keys, and he said that FS is aware of that issue as well.

 

He indicated that we should all stand by for future Jaws updates that will be aimed at correcting these issues.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Thanks, I already tried your suggestion and it also worked for me. I guess when I called FS last week they either hadn’t tested this solution/work-around yet or the guy I spoke with didn’t know about it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Yes, that’s what I’m saying.

 

I’m not sure when I re-open Outlook after putting it in safe mode if it is still in safe mode, but re-opening it after the safe mode step seems to have fixed the problem for me.

 

Please let us know if this works for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Are you saying you just open Outlook in save mode once and then exit it and open it again normally and that fixes the issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I wanted to let you know that my Outlook 2016 address entry issue which was causing Outlook to crash has been resolved, at least for now.

 

I worked with Corrie from FS Support, and they are aware of the issue.

 

The temporary work-around is to run Outlook in safe mode.

 

Here are the steps for doing this:

 

1.  If you are in Outlook, close the program.

 

2.  Then, press windows R to go to the run dialog prompt.

 

3.  Type in outlook.exe followed by a space, and then /safe  and hit enter.

 

4.  Then, exit out of Outlook and go back again, and everything should function normally.

 

I’m not totally sure what safe mode is, but Corrie said it has something to do with eliminating add-ins that are active when Outlook is running normally.

 

I also asked Corrie about the problem I’m having with being unable to navigate entries in an Outlook e-mail group via the arrow keys, and he said that FS is aware of that issue as well.

 

He indicated that we should all stand by for future Jaws updates that will be aimed at correcting these issues.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

Tom Behler
 

Yes, that’s what I’m saying.

 

I’m not sure when I re-open Outlook after putting it in safe mode if it is still in safe mode, but re-opening it after the safe mode step seems to have fixed the problem for me.

 

Please let us know if this works for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Are you saying you just open Outlook in save mode once and then exit it and open it again normally and that fixes the issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I wanted to let you know that my Outlook 2016 address entry issue which was causing Outlook to crash has been resolved, at least for now.

 

I worked with Corrie from FS Support, and they are aware of the issue.

 

The temporary work-around is to run Outlook in safe mode.

 

Here are the steps for doing this:

 

1.  If you are in Outlook, close the program.

 

2.  Then, press windows R to go to the run dialog prompt.

 

3.  Type in outlook.exe followed by a space, and then /safe  and hit enter.

 

4.  Then, exit out of Outlook and go back again, and everything should function normally.

 

I’m not totally sure what safe mode is, but Corrie said it has something to do with eliminating add-ins that are active when Outlook is running normally.

 

I also asked Corrie about the problem I’m having with being unable to navigate entries in an Outlook e-mail group via the arrow keys, and he said that FS is aware of that issue as well.

 

He indicated that we should all stand by for future Jaws updates that will be aimed at correcting these issues.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: firefox version 57

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

My JAWS is working fine with it, FYI. Just download the link I provided earlier.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox version 57

n v d a is the only screen reader right now that will work with it.
use the extended support release 52.5 the 32 bit version. there are problems with the 64bit versions.this one will work until around march of next year.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/


-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: firefox version 57

Running latest version of Jaws 2018 on a win 10 64 bit laptop and
firefox version 57. Have google set as my home page on firefox. Can't
get to the edit box to enter a search term. Are there kknown issues
with Jaws and firefox version 57?
Thanks


Re: firefox version 57

Cristóbal
 

The compatibility issues with Jaws and screen readers with Firefox 57 has been mentioned ad nauseam for roughly the last month. There have been blog postings from VFO and other accessibility sites in addition to what's been discussed on lists such as this regarding the expected challenges with this particular version of FF.
Some are reporting no issues with it, but in general, as has been repeatedly suggested, either stick with version 56.x with updates disabled or switch to the ESR version of Firefox for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: firefox version 57

Running latest version of Jaws 2018 on a win 10 64 bit laptop and firefox version 57. Have google set as my home page on firefox. Can't get to the edit box to enter a search term. Are there kknown issues with Jaws and firefox version 57?
Thanks


Re: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hi Tom,

 

Are you saying you just open Outlook in save mode once and then exit it and open it again normally and that fixes the issue?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I wanted to let you know that my Outlook 2016 address entry issue which was causing Outlook to crash has been resolved, at least for now.

 

I worked with Corrie from FS Support, and they are aware of the issue.

 

The temporary work-around is to run Outlook in safe mode.

 

Here are the steps for doing this:

 

1.  If you are in Outlook, close the program.

 

2.  Then, press windows R to go to the run dialog prompt.

 

3.  Type in outlook.exe followed by a space, and then /safe  and hit enter.

 

4.  Then, exit out of Outlook and go back again, and everything should function normally.

 

I’m not totally sure what safe mode is, but Corrie said it has something to do with eliminating add-ins that are active when Outlook is running normally.

 

I also asked Corrie about the problem I’m having with being unable to navigate entries in an Outlook e-mail group via the arrow keys, and he said that FS is aware of that issue as well.

 

He indicated that we should all stand by for future Jaws updates that will be aimed at correcting these issues.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: firefox version 57

netbat66
 

n v d a is the only screen reader right now that will work with it.
use the extended support release 52.5 the 32 bit version. there are problems with the 64bit versions.this one will work until around march of next year.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: firefox version 57

Running latest version of Jaws 2018 on a win 10 64 bit laptop and
firefox version 57. Have google set as my home page on firefox. Can't
get to the edit box to enter a search term. Are there kknown issues
with Jaws and firefox version 57?
Thanks


Re: firefox version 57

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Yes there, you must have had the forced update, been talk around here for the last two weeks of this problem coming.
Perhaps use another browser to download this, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/switch-to-firefox-extended-support-release-esr
HTH



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: firefox version 57

Running latest version of Jaws 2018 on a win 10 64 bit laptop and firefox version 57. Have google set as my home page on firefox. Can't get to the edit box to enter a search term. Are there kknown issues with Jaws and firefox version 57?
Thanks


firefox version 57

Don H
 

Running latest version of Jaws 2018 on a win 10 64 bit laptop and firefox version 57. Have google set as my home page on firefox. Can't get to the edit box to enter a search term. Are there kknown issues with Jaws and firefox version 57?
Thanks


Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Solved, At Least For Now

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I wanted to let you know that my Outlook 2016 address entry issue which was causing Outlook to crash has been resolved, at least for now.

 

I worked with Corrie from FS Support, and they are aware of the issue.

 

The temporary work-around is to run Outlook in safe mode.

 

Here are the steps for doing this:

 

1.  If you are in Outlook, close the program.

 

2.  Then, press windows R to go to the run dialog prompt.

 

3.  Type in outlook.exe followed by a space, and then /safe  and hit enter.

 

4.  Then, exit out of Outlook and go back again, and everything should function normally.

 

I’m not totally sure what safe mode is, but Corrie said it has something to do with eliminating add-ins that are active when Outlook is running normally.

 

I also asked Corrie about the problem I’m having with being unable to navigate entries in an Outlook e-mail group via the arrow keys, and he said that FS is aware of that issue as well.

 

He indicated that we should all stand by for future Jaws updates that will be aimed at correcting these issues.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


firefox and n v d a

netbat66
 

the latest n v d a does work with firefox 57.
n v d a says there is an accessibility setting , if turned off would make it less accessible to n v d a.
but i only tried it with the 32 bit portable version. i have never had too much luck with any of the firefox 64 bit versions even though i have windows 7 and 10 64 bit versions.
window eyes and jaws 2018 will crash almost as fast as it loads. n v d a does not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox



When you say the latest version of Firefox, do you mean Firefox 57 also known as Firefox Quantum? If so then the fact that this version of Firefox causes major issues for as far as I know all screenreaders has been discussed a lot on various lists. Even the latest version of Jaws 2018 or NVDA does not work well with Firefox 57 and apparently won’t be going forward until various changes are made possibly by the makers of screenreaders but maybe also by Firefox.

If upgrading Jaws is an option for you I’d highly recommend it because Google Chrome with Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 is perfectly accessible. There are a few websites where Chrome won’t read certain information and IE and Firefox will read it, but for me Chrome works great 98% of the time and it’s very fast. But you are correct, I don’t think it will work with Jaws 16.

If you want to continue with Firefox I believe they recommend that screenreader users switch to the Firefox ESR version, that stands for “Extended Support Release”. Normally this is what companies and large organisations would use since it is less on the cutting edge and won’t update nearly as frequently. If you Google “Firefox ESR” you will find the link to it.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox





You say you are using an older version of jaws, but use the latest version of firefox???

Now i don’t get this personally, but i suggest you either upgrade jaws or down grade firefox , which is the better option, to a version that works together nicely







From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 14 November 2017 08:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox





Hi All,



I am using JAWS 16, Windows 10 and the latest version of Firefox.

Unfortunately, for the last few weeks, Firefox has been functioning in

a very erratic fashion.

More specifically, when I open certain webpages (news stories, for

instance) or clicking on the sign in button on any page, Firefox stops

responding and JAWS itself stops responding.



The only solution in such a situation is to restart the computer.

Firefox is my preferred browser, because I find IE relatively slower,

and Google Chrome is not accessible with JAWS, from what I know.

If anyone here has any ideas as to why this may be happening or as to

the accessibility of Chrome, please let me know.



Best,

Rahul


Re: how well does jaws version 16 work with the crome browser!

 

As far as I know Jaws 16 does not work with Chrome, but if you don't get a definite answer just call Freedom Scientific.
If you are a Jaws user you won't be able to stay on 16 forever, Jaws 2018 definitely works best with Windows 10 Fall Creator's update.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: how well does jaws version 16 work with the crome browser!

Hi list members, does anyone have any information on how well jaws 16 works with the crome browser. I would appreciate any information that you might have. I don't want to have to upgrade to the latest version of jaws just to use crome!


Re: Remote connections?

 

Shannon,

It all depends on whether you want to access a file or a program.
Usually companies have all their files on some sort of server so that they can be accessed from the various computers people work on.
If you actually want to run a program on another computer then you would have to connect to this computer using Remote Desktop, but if somebody else was sitting in front of that computer then as soon as you log in it will log them out and the computer will sit at the Windows login screen, if they logged in again they would kick you out.
Remote Desktop works great if you want to do some work from at home, if your computer is on and it's best if you leave it rebooted and sitting at the login screen, then if the router is setup correctly and you have allowed Remote Desktop connections to your work computer, you can connect to it from at home or from another office in your building. Then somebody who looked at your computer would still see the login screen, but you are connected and can use it the same way as when you sit in front of it.
This will require you to have an add-on license from Freedom Scientific.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote connections?

John,
What exactly Do you mean if I wanted to use the VPN on someones network?
Would that be like connecting to a different unit in this building, that is connected to the same network that I am connected to? Simple example I am sitting at my desk and need something off a unit that is in another office.
My copy of Jaws would not need the added Remote Connection promissions to do that? I could in theory get into that unit and reach it's files? Can I get into that unit and run it's programs with my coppy of Jaws on my unit?
The idea is appealing. Not sure how I would structure things but I could see times it could be handy to be able to get something from one of the other employees units instead of having to ask that they move it to the shared drive or getting them to send me something from their unit. Less clutter.

Thanks
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote connections?

I don't think you need the remote desktop add on if you are using a vpn on someones network. However, you might need it if you want to log on to a computer on that network remotely.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:13:44 -0500,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] You need to call FS and
ask them to enable Remote Desktop, there is an extra charge for that,
but
I?ve had it for so long that I can?t remember how much it is.

If you do have it enabled, the router at your workplace has to be
enabled
for remote desktop and your particular computer needs to be assigned a port.

It is also best if your workplace has a fixed IP address because you
need
to know the IP address as well as the port in order to connect using Remote Desktop on your computer at home.

You would have to check with your employer if they are willing to set
this
up for you, I?m self-employed so I can do what I want with my router and computers.

It?s a bit of work to set it all up, but once you have it up and
running
it works well as long as you have a fast internet connection at home as well as at work.

I have my credentials saved and I just reboot my PC at my store when I
go home, if I want to connect I just press enter on the Remote Desktop
connection shortcut I saved to my desktop and it connects without me having to do anything, after about 10 seconds Jaws on my Windows 7 PC at work starts talking and I can use the computer the same way as if I sat in front of it.

I do by the way use a Windows 10 laptop at home, but that is not a
problem.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Remote connections?

Hi again all,

I am wondering how the remote connections work with Jaws 18.

I am not talking about the tandem help but actually being at home and
using a VPN connection back to the office.

I believe that I have the professional copy of Jaws 18 and I should be
able to do it but I don?t know how it works.

Anyone here done it and how well does it work?

We are doing some updates to the computer infrastructure and I want to
make sure that we have all things necessary to do all the things we may want to do.

I have had to use such a feature in the past with WE and Windows 7.

I am now running Win 10 and Jaws 18 on my work unit.

Can I pull this off?

If I can?t do it with a VPN connection through the firewall will it
work
with a Remote Desktop License?

Thanks for any advice

Shannon

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox

 

When you say the latest version of Firefox, do you mean Firefox 57 also known as Firefox Quantum? If so then the fact that this version of Firefox causes major issues for as far as I know all screenreaders has been discussed a lot on various lists. Even the latest version of Jaws 2018 or NVDA does not work well with Firefox 57 and apparently won’t be going forward until various changes are made possibly by the makers of screenreaders but maybe also by Firefox.

If upgrading Jaws is an option for you I’d highly recommend it because Google Chrome with Jaws 18 and Jaws 2018 is perfectly accessible. There are a few websites where Chrome won’t read certain information and IE and Firefox will read it, but for me Chrome works great 98% of the time and it’s very fast. But you are correct, I don’t think it will work with Jaws 16.

If you want to continue with Firefox I believe they recommend that screenreader users switch to the Firefox ESR version, that stands for “Extended Support Release”. Normally this is what companies and large organisations would use since it is less on the cutting edge and won’t update nearly as frequently. If you Google “Firefox ESR” you will find the link to it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 2:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox

 

You say you are using an older version of jaws, but use the latest version of firefox???

Now i don’t get this personally, but i suggest you either upgrade jaws or down grade firefox , which is the better option, to a version that works together nicely

 

 

From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 14 November 2017 08:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox

 

Hi All,

 

I am using JAWS 16, Windows 10 and the latest version of Firefox.

Unfortunately, for the last few weeks, Firefox has been functioning in

a very erratic fashion.

More specifically, when I open certain webpages (news stories, for

instance) or clicking on the sign in button on any page, Firefox stops

responding and JAWS itself stops responding.

 

The only solution in such a situation is to restart the computer.

Firefox is my preferred browser, because I find IE relatively slower,

and Google Chrome is not accessible with JAWS, from what I know.

If anyone here has any ideas as to why this may be happening or as to

the accessibility of Chrome, please let me know.

 

Best,

Rahul

 

 

 


how well does jaws version 16 work with the crome browser!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, does anyone have any information on how well jaws 16 works with the crome browser. I would appreciate any information that you might have. I don't want to have to upgrade to the latest version of jaws just to use crome!


Re: Outlook 2010 jaws 18, message threading?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Think what you are referring to in Outlook is called conversations.  I am still primarily using Window Eyes and have several folders of messages, including this JAWS list set in conversations by subject.  To enable it in Outlook 2010, go to the View ribbon and tab to the Conversations checkbox.  What I avoid at all costs is Outlooks arranging by Groups.  This is different from  conversations. I suppose it might be nice for sighted folks, but I find it really annoying with speech, so I am careful to go into the Arrange by menu and ensure that the Show in Groups setting is not checked.   To my recollection, sorting by groups by date is a common default in Outlook. 

 

Robin

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 4:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2010 jaws 18, message threading?

 

Hello all,

 

It didn’t work wellif at all withWE but can you use the message threading in Outlook 2010 with jaws18?

It would make cleaning and taking care of messages that pertain to particular topics so much easier.

If so how do I enable this in Outlook 2010?

And I guess I might add if not in jaws 18 does it work in jaws 2018

I don’t have it yet but… if it works maybe I would get it

Thanks

Shannon



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Re: Remote connections?

John Covici
 

You would get an ip address on the work network, so if you had a file
server you could get files off of it, but you cannot run programs that
way. You may need both a vpn and the remote desktop license of Jaws
if you want to actually log on to the work computer and run programs.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 09:32:34 -0500,
Shannon wrote:

John,
What exactly Do you mean if I wanted to use the VPN on someones network?
Would that be like connecting to a different unit in this building, that is
connected to the same network that I am connected to? Simple example I am
sitting at my desk and need something off a unit that is in another office.
My copy of Jaws would not need the added Remote Connection promissions to do
that? I could in theory get into that unit and reach it's files? Can I get
into that unit and run it's programs with my coppy of Jaws on my unit?
The idea is appealing. Not sure how I would structure things but I could
see times it could be handy to be able to get something from one of the
other employees units instead of having to ask that they move it to the
shared drive or getting them to send me something from their unit. Less
clutter.

Thanks
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote connections?

I don't think you need the remote desktop add on if you are using a vpn on
someones network. However, you might need it if you want to log on to a
computer on that network remotely.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:13:44 -0500,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] You need to call FS and
ask them to enable Remote Desktop, there is an extra charge for that, but
I?ve had it for so long that I can?t remember how much it is.

If you do have it enabled, the router at your workplace has to be enabled
for remote desktop and your particular computer needs to be assigned a port.

It is also best if your workplace has a fixed IP address because you need
to know the IP address as well as the port in order to connect using Remote
Desktop on your computer at home.

You would have to check with your employer if they are willing to set this
up for you, I?m self-employed so I can do what I want with my router and
computers.

It?s a bit of work to set it all up, but once you have it up and running
it works well as long as you have a fast internet connection at home as well
as at work.

I have my credentials saved and I just reboot my PC at my store when I
go home, if I want to connect I just press enter on the Remote Desktop
connection shortcut I saved to my desktop and it connects without me having
to do anything, after about 10 seconds Jaws on my Windows 7 PC at work
starts talking and I can use the computer the same way as if I sat in front
of it.

I do by the way use a Windows 10 laptop at home, but that is not a
problem.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Remote connections?

Hi again all,

I am wondering how the remote connections work with Jaws 18.

I am not talking about the tandem help but actually being at home and
using a VPN connection back to the office.

I believe that I have the professional copy of Jaws 18 and I should be
able to do it but I don?t know how it works.

Anyone here done it and how well does it work?

We are doing some updates to the computer infrastructure and I want to
make sure that we have all things necessary to do all the things we may want
to do.

I have had to use such a feature in the past with WE and Windows 7.

I am now running Win 10 and Jaws 18 on my work unit.

Can I pull this off?

If I can?t do it with a VPN connection through the firewall will it work
with a Remote Desktop License?

Thanks for any advice

Shannon

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox

Owais Patel <owaisipatel@...>
 

At the moment Firefox isn't doing good with Freedom Scientific's products so maybe you should Downgrade to a version that works. Google Chrome is becoming really great with Jaws in the latest versions. Hope this helps.

Sincerely, 
Owais  

On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:05 AM, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:

You say you are using an older version of jaws, but use the latest version of firefox???

Now i don’t get this personally, but i suggest you either upgrade jaws or down grade firefox , which is the better option, to a version that works together nicely

 

 

From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 14 November 2017 08:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Computer repeatedly getting freezed because of Firefox

 

Hi All,

 

I am using JAWS 16, Windows 10 and the latest version of Firefox.

Unfortunately, for the last few weeks, Firefox has been functioning in

a very erratic fashion.

More specifically, when I open certain webpages (news stories, for

instance) or clicking on the sign in button on any page, Firefox stops

responding and JAWS itself stops responding.

 

The only solution in such a situation is to restart the computer.

Firefox is my preferred browser, because I find IE relatively slower,

and Google Chrome is not accessible with JAWS, from what I know.

If anyone here has any ideas as to why this may be happening or as to

the accessibility of Chrome, please let me know.

 

Best,

Rahul

 

 

 


Re: Remote connections?

Shannon
 

John,
What exactly Do you mean if I wanted to use the VPN on someones network?
Would that be like connecting to a different unit in this building, that is
connected to the same network that I am connected to? Simple example I am
sitting at my desk and need something off a unit that is in another office.
My copy of Jaws would not need the added Remote Connection promissions to do
that? I could in theory get into that unit and reach it's files? Can I get
into that unit and run it's programs with my coppy of Jaws on my unit?
The idea is appealing. Not sure how I would structure things but I could
see times it could be handy to be able to get something from one of the
other employees units instead of having to ask that they move it to the
shared drive or getting them to send me something from their unit. Less
clutter.

Thanks
Shannon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote connections?

I don't think you need the remote desktop add on if you are using a vpn on
someones network. However, you might need it if you want to log on to a
computer on that network remotely.

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:13:44 -0500,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] You need to call FS and
ask them to enable Remote Desktop, there is an extra charge for that, but
I?ve had it for so long that I can?t remember how much it is.

If you do have it enabled, the router at your workplace has to be enabled
for remote desktop and your particular computer needs to be assigned a port.

It is also best if your workplace has a fixed IP address because you need
to know the IP address as well as the port in order to connect using Remote
Desktop on your computer at home.

You would have to check with your employer if they are willing to set this
up for you, I?m self-employed so I can do what I want with my router and
computers.

It?s a bit of work to set it all up, but once you have it up and running
it works well as long as you have a fast internet connection at home as well
as at work.

I have my credentials saved and I just reboot my PC at my store when I
go home, if I want to connect I just press enter on the Remote Desktop
connection shortcut I saved to my desktop and it connects without me having
to do anything, after about 10 seconds Jaws on my Windows 7 PC at work
starts talking and I can use the computer the same way as if I sat in front
of it.

I do by the way use a Windows 10 laptop at home, but that is not a
problem.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Remote connections?

Hi again all,

I am wondering how the remote connections work with Jaws 18.

I am not talking about the tandem help but actually being at home and
using a VPN connection back to the office.

I believe that I have the professional copy of Jaws 18 and I should be
able to do it but I don?t know how it works.

Anyone here done it and how well does it work?

We are doing some updates to the computer infrastructure and I want to
make sure that we have all things necessary to do all the things we may want
to do.

I have had to use such a feature in the past with WE and Windows 7.

I am now running Win 10 and Jaws 18 on my work unit.

Can I pull this off?

If I can?t do it with a VPN connection through the firewall will it work
with a Remote Desktop License?

Thanks for any advice

Shannon

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: Remote connections?

Shannon
 

Sieghard

Thank you for the help!

I am a bit confused. I know this is going to sound redundant but… There are so many things that sound the same but are different.

In windows itself there is a thing built into every unit called RemoteApp and Desktop Connections in the , Control panel

Is this what is used to access the VPN that the firewall at work would allow the connection through or is this a totally different kind of connection?

 

Jaws has the “Remote Desktop “ that has to be purchased. Is this different again from the Windows Remote connection in the control panel? Is it a standalone program special to Jaws that allows Jaws  units to connect to each other, or is it an additional piece that Jaws uses to send speech from one unit to the other while using the Windows Remote connection?

 

One of the vendors that we are considering purchasing a new server from and using them to be IT support is quoting separate Windows Remote Desk top Licenses to access the server. Is this again a different thing? I don’t want to log into the server I only need to get back into my unit at my physical desk at work.  My unit at work can touch all the things I need that are on the server, as well as what I have stored on my unit.

Another vendor is telling me that VPN would allow me in through the fire wall and back into the Named unit on the network, as if I were physically sitting in front of that unit, with access to all the programs and places and information that unit has access to. This is not true?

Correct me if I misunderstood, did you mean the unit at home has to have the same programs on it as the work unit to use the VPN connection? That won’t work in my case and it didn’t apply when I did it a few years ago.  So did I then not use a VPN to get back to work? If I am understanding this it is a very useless connection because you have to purchase or install the programs all over again for the home unit that are particular to work and you can’t send a report to the office printer?

All of these things keep using the same words and sound as if they will do the same but I am not at all sure that they are the same.

I don’t only want to understand the difference between VPN and Remote Connection for myself and as it relates to Jaws. The other people here at work want the same thing too, so they can access units that have programs on them that are particular to work and are also particular  to those particular units.

When it is all said and done the unit I would be using from home or away from the office to get back into the office would be a laptop with Windows 10 and would be connecting to a desktop windows 10 machine. Will that be any different?

I really appreciate the help. If I can get this accomplished it would be so very cool. I could arrange for more time away from here while still getting my work done. I am kind of handcuffed to this desk right now. It would be nice to say, “Ok I am not finished but I can do it when I get home, in the morning, or on the weekend”.

Shannon

 

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote connections?

 

Sorry, one more thing.

You mentioned a VPN. Remote Desktop is not actually a VPN. A VPN has to be set up between two VPN capable routers, one at home and one at your work or you can use a VPN client on your computer at home as long as your work router supports a VPN.

Then once the connection is established you have access to files on your work network, but you would need to have all applications you use on your home computer.

With Remote Desktop you connect and once the connection is established it is like you are sitting at your work computer, you can use all applications and all files on that network as well as print to printers at your office.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Remote connections?

 

Hi again all,

I am wondering how the remote connections work with Jaws 18.

I am not talking about the tandem help but actually being at home and using a VPN connection back to the office.

I believe that I have the professional copy of Jaws 18 and I should be able to do it but I don’t know how it works.

Anyone here done it and how well does it work?

We are doing some updates to the computer infrastructure and I want to make sure that we have all things necessary to do all the things we may want to do.

I have had to use such a feature in the past with WE and Windows 7.

I am now running Win 10 and Jaws 18 on my work unit.

Can I pull this off?

If I can’t do it with a VPN connection through the firewall will it work with a Remote Desktop License?

 

Thanks for any advice

Shannon