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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Adrian Spratt
You make a good distinction. The problem isn't the notification, but the fact that it might be necessary.
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In my case, I don't get it often, and usually I can recognize something I did to cause it, such as trying to accomplish too much too fast.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta. I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus" without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help. Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August? What version of Windows are you using? If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver" in the run dialog to get this information. Does this happen in a particular program? David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&reserved=0 On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote: Hi Ron,
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Dan Longmore
Jessica,
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I am glad you are not experiencing this issue. For those of us who do it remains quite annoying . 2020 version was better than 2019 but so far with the beta we have gone backwards. Running latest versions of JAWS and Windows. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? Hello, I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type. I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16. Thanks, Jessica -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some versions now. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it! At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote: To my fellow subscribers.
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Jessica D
Hello,
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I've never seen jaws do this in more recent versions, including the August update of 2020, which is currently ruoning on my elBraille, as I type. I believe this issue hasn't occurred since jaws 16. Thanks, Jessica
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some versions now. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it! At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote: To my fellow subscribers.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
NFB Lab 4
You must select the column before doing this, otherwise it will adjust to the width of the current cell
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 2:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters. On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text,
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Dan Longmore
Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
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before making an actual comparison. This has been a JAWS issue for some versions now. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it! At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote: To my fellow subscribers.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Mario
in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters.
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On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Milton Ota
If you need a wider cell in a spreadsheet an option is to merge cells and you don't have to worry about word wrap. Generally I have found that if you are using the default cells across a row, you can get eight cells in portrate mode on an 8.5 by 11 inch sheet of paper.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of brian albriton Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Ann Byrne
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
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At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look rightOn Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
Mario
depends on the width of the cell.
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On 10/6/2020 1:37 PM, brian albriton wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look rightOn Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:.
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Re: Width of cell in Excel
brian albriton
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I’m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn’t look right
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On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Richard Turner
That item is unchecked for me, but I still get the announcement at times using Jaws 2021 beta.
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I'm not sure it is a bug to be told Jaws is lost, that is a good feature; However, the fact that Jaws loses focus as much as it does is a bug in my opinion. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:28 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus" without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help. Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August? What version of Windows are you using? If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver" in the run dialog to get this information. Does this happen in a particular program? David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd8c5b7cdd6964ef0c5d308d869fba73c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637375876839674603&sdata=yNuRGU0HipVqAXrgMcEQXDNmnpteVRFxHf%2FQ9%2FrEwsI%3D&reserved=0 On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote: Hi Ron,
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Ann Byrne
I have more focus issues with 2021 also. We should both make bug reports so they know they need to fix it!
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At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
To my fellow subscribers.
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
You could press insert-V for the JAWS options dialog, type "focus" without the quotes and ensure that focus loss announcement is not checked. As Jessica asked giving us more info might help.
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Are you using the latest build of JAWS 2020 from August? What version of Windows are you using? If Windows 10 which build or version of Win10? You could type "winver" in the run dialog to get this information. Does this happen in a particular program? David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/6/2020 9:19 AM, Jessica D wrote:
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Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Jessica D
Hi Ron,
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I'm not experiencing this issue. Could you tell us more about your system? What version of the Operating system are you running? Is it the home or pro version? Is your jaws up-to-date? Thanks, Jessica
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug? To my fellow subscribers. Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab. I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released. Many thanks. Ron In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
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Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?
Ron Kolesar
To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab. I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released. Many thanks. Ron In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
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Re: epub editors
Bill White
Hi, Juan. The genres of literature to which you refer are spelled Wuxia and Xianxia, not woxia and xenxia.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 9:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: epub editors
Hi all, are there any accessible software packages that I can use to edit a non-drm epub ebook?
I love reading a lot of woxia xenxia chinies cultivation literature and a lot of it sometimes comes in parts, or what eer and I’d like to be able to clean up some of these titles before reading.
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Juan
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epub editors
Juan Hernandez
Hi all, are there any accessible software packages that I can use to edit a non-drm epub ebook?
I love reading a lot of woxia xenxia chinies cultivation literature and a lot of it sometimes comes in parts, or what eer and I’d like to be able to clean up some of these titles before reading.
Best,
Juan
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Re: what are everyone using to read pdf files
Milton Ota
I have several different programs that I have in my toolbox but if you have been following the progress of updates for JAWS from Vispero/Freedom Scientific the OCR program that is part of JAWS 2020 and beyond will do a great job of reading PDF’s.
The OCR program that is part of JAWS will also scan a print page if you have a scanner that is either a flatbed or a camera like the Pearl from Freedom Scientific.
If you are interested in knowing what programs I have in my toolbox you will need to write me off list.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 6:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: what are everyone using to read pdf files
Hi, I know this is super late, but I use Abbyy Fine Reader. I love it! It is expensive, but it is well worth it, because it also reads PDFs that are images. It makes for a very useful tool, and I feel as though it pays for itself within even the first couple of uses.
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Re: what are everyone using to read pdf files
Jasmine Kotsay
Hi, I know this is super late, but I use Abbyy Fine Reader. I love it! It is expensive, but it is well worth it, because it also reads PDFs that are images. It makes for a very useful tool, and I feel as though it pays for itself within even the first couple of uses.
On Aug 24, 2020, at 7:36 AM, dennis <dennisc67@...> wrote:
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Re: I'm encountering a very strange sound card issue with trying to switch JAWS to an internal card.
Don Risavy, Jr. <djrisavyjr@...>
You'll need to make the external sound card the default card either by
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searching for it through system settings (windows) or the control panel and set it as the default sound card then have jaws use the on board sound card which this can be done through jaws (insert+j), u for utilities and then locate sound card settings and open it and then use the on board sound card for jaws to use only instead of the default sound card which the default sound card by default will be the on board sound card unless change it to another sound card either an external one or internal one. This wil allow for any sounds or audio/music to come out of the external sound card and jaws will talk through the on board sound card only. This is how have my computer set up to do as use my sound blaster Audigy internal soundcard and separate speakers for music and any other audio and then the on board Realtek sound card just for jaws. So hope that might help.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: October 4, 2020 10:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I'm encountering a very strange sound card issue with trying to switch JAWS to an internal card. Hi Orlando. If you plug in headphones into the Yeti while Starting Windows, you'll hear your sounds through it. I agree, it's annoying, but at least I know what to do. Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique Fiol via groups.io Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 9:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I'm encountering a very strange sound card issue with trying to switch JAWS to an internal card. At 12:28 PM 10/3/2020, Mike B wrote: >To my knowledge, which isn't much, when playing music or system sounds they >have to come through the computers internal default sound card. I've never >been able to figure out how to make music and system sounds use the external >sound card so Jaws could be the only thing using the default internal >sound card. If someone can tell us how to do this I would be eternally >grateful as well. Windows allows any registered device to play any application's audio, with the exception of system sounds, which are always mapped to the default audio device. So, if your media player shows up in the sound mixer applet or the old SNDVol control, you can have it play through any device you have. You can even have different media players or web browsers play through different audio devices from the default. Thank God, your question has a simple answer. Speaking of Yeti, I have a Blue Yeti stereo USB microphone that sounds fantastic and has four polarity patterns. However, one of the "features" that probably seemed like a good idea to the Yeti's developers is proving to be a throbbing headache for me. The Yeti has a stereo eighth-inch headphone jack intended to allow users to monitor their mic output without intermediary devices. The problem is that this headphone output shows up in Windows as a Yeti speaker, which is, of course, a phantom silent device. Disabling it in its properties is the only way to keep it from appearing. Uninstalling it via the Device Manager only lasts until plug&play picks it up during the next reboot. Most annoying of all, Windows defaults to this phantom Yeti device during installations, in the advanced boot menu and safe mode. I've combed the registry for references to it. Why this phantom device would end up being the pre-Windows default boggles my mind, and there's apparently nothing I can do to make Windows use my USB audio device or the motherboard's sound card to run narrator before Windows proper loads. My only workaround is to unplug the Yeti from its USB port whenever I know I'll be using Narrator before Windows loads with my actual sound configuration. Riddle me all this, my fellow blind geniuses! Orlando Enrique Fiol Charlotte, North Carolina Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
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