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moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Ron Kolesar
 

'm running jfw 2020 home and win 10 home on a win 10 machine with a I7 processor and 12 gigs of memory.
Hope this helps out.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 19:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three computers and have never seen this problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well






















moderated Unable to install Stascom software that Mike B. Spoke of yesterday

Jim Weiss
 

All,
The other day Mike wrote the list about a program called Stascom and I liked some of the features. I downloaded the installer but I can’t complete the installation. The best I can tell is Windows Defender is blocking and putting the executable in quarantine. I am running Windows 10 version 2004 and it is fully patched as of 10/7/2020 and JAWS 2020 (the August version). The software installs but on the first run I get a message that the process was blocked and my only option is “OK”. If I navigate to the directory and run the program I get the same message and the executable disappears.
Any help is appreciated. I am very new to Win 10.
Thanks,
Jim


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Ron Kolesar
 

Running the latest copy of win 10 home and the latest copy of the screen
reader JAWS for windows.
Hope that helped out.
Ron KR3DOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William
Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 15:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of
Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Randy Barnett
 

I think it might be more accurate to say that it is a Windows issue giving jobs problems. :-)

Randy Barnett

On Oct 7, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com> wrote:

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.
On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
























moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Don Mauck
 

I've never seen this not happen.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.
On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using
jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed
Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares
and NIMS Certified as well
























moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Dan Longmore
 

No verbosity setting has no bearing. This is a jaws issue over many versions.

On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
























moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Van Lant, Robin
 

I know I hear it occasionally, but I'll have to pay attention to when it occurs. Like someone said, I often have assumed it was because I was being impatient and hit something that took focus away or something, but I'll pay closer attention to it. I'm on JAWS 2020 on Windows 10 on both of my machines.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three computers and have never seen this problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well






























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moderated Google chrome take a long time to load a webpage when I hit enter

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, I don't know if you listener experienced this problem. I begin to face this issue last Friday 
The issue is that everytime when I press  enter   to activate a link from my search in google  and the link will take a long time to load. The internet in  my house  have good connection. 

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moderated Re: last time ..i promise..disregard

David Diamond
 

Message received. I just don't know who you are sending or posting the message too. Smile.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey
Worthington
Sent: October 6, 2020 7:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: last time ..i promise..disregard

test

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

brian albriton
 

Thank you for this. I keep a running average of glucose readings in excel. Occasionally I want to make comments and am using the column to the right of the statistics for this.
The regular comments feature in excel is not visible to jaws and this is a known problem according to Freedom Scientific.
All the best, Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel

Brian,



How much text will fit in a cell depends on the width of the column in which the cell resides. I don't believe Excel allows setting the width of individual cells. How text which takes more space than the width of its column appears will depend on what the cell to its immediate right has in it. If that cell is blank, the too wide text will spill over and display in the adjacent cell. If the adjacent cell is not blank, the too wide text will be cut off and not displayed even though it is still in the cell.



You can change the format of individual cells to set them to wrap text when the text they contain is too wide to fit in the width of their column. This will cause the row they are in to expand in height in order to display the wrapped text. To do this, place focus in the cell you wish to have the text wrapped or select an entire column or a group of cells for which you want to wrap text and then:



1. Press ctrl + 1 to open the format dialog box.

2. Press ctrl + tab to move to the alignment tab in the format dialog box.

3. Press tab until you reach the wrap text checkbox and press space to check it.

4. Press tab until you reach the Ok button and press enter.



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn t look right



On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel < <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:
Cheers Anne, I ll try that next time.
Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant
Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne < <mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net> annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
?Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:
For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.
To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.
For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.
To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
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Zel Iscel
Disability Specialist
Inclusive World
Mobile: 0413813885
Email: < <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au>
mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au>
zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io <
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.
I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-
and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46> <https://support>; https://support.
microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72
f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
<< <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin
meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel
Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?
Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider.
Cheers, Kevin


moderated last time ..i promise..disregard

Morey Worthington
 

test

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

ratshtron
 

hmmm, I have been using jaws sincwe vwersaion 2.0 and loss of focus has always been there from time-to-time and I still get it from time-to-time with jaws 18 and even when I was able to use 2020 earlier this year. Of course, it isn't as bad as it used to bwe but its still there.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/6/2020 06:24 PM, Loy said:
----------------------------------------
I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three
computers and have never seen this problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently
using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that
has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer
than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well



























----------------------------------------


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Loy
 

I've been using JAWS since 2018 and am running windows 10 Pro on three
computers and have never seen this problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?


I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently
using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that
has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer
than I can remember.


CH



On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is
announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for
over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more
than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get
better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some
temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020
with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant
<hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what
version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio
Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified
as well






















moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Chris Hill
 

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one.  I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it?  I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH

On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well





















moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Randy Barnett
 

So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica
On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


















moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Mike B
 

I run a little program that automatically maximizes whatever screen / window that comes into focus and since I installed this little goodie I haven't had this focus loss problem.  Stascom info below:
 
 
For more detailed information, here is the link to the Stascom page of the website.
 
 
Download Link:
 
Hotkeys:
Control+1, Contact manager
Control+2, Reminder Manager
Control+3, Windows Applications and settings
Control+4, Password Generator
Control+5, Word Count for Selected Text
Control+6, Day of the Week
Control+7, Configuration manager
Control+8, Exclude Window Title from maximizing
Control+9, Generate Configuration report
control+\, Program Dashboard
Control+Windows+Up or Down arrow, adjust computer volume.
 
Just a final note.
This little program has many great features, and it works with any screen reader.
Even though I do like the reminders, password generator, and other features, my favorites are:
*  Maximizing Windows:  I like the fact that all of my program windows will automatically be maximized.  This helps from any basic problems with my screen
reader.
* Muting Volume is disabled with minimum volume being required.  Many times I accidently hit the mute key on my function key row muting my volume and would
always forget which key it was exactly.  Now with this feature, I do not have to worry about this ever happening!
*  Control System Volume on the fly.  Being able to turn up or down the system volume with a hotkey is so convenient and makes adjusting the system volume
quick and easy.
*  Reporting Battery Status.  Since I use a laptop, letting me know what my battery status is on a regular basis helps alert me when I should plug in my
laptop to charge.
* Time Announcement.  I have mine set to announce every 15 minutes.  This just helps me keep up with the time and helps keep me on task.
 
Of coarse, keep in mind that you can turn off any of the features within the configuration manager.
 
Enjoy,
 
 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Yes, seems to be worse in 2021 beta although I will wait til final release
before making an actual comparison.  This has been a JAWS issue for some
versions now. 

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

I have more focus issues with 2021 also.  We should both make bug reports so
they know they need to fix it!
At 08:01 AM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
>To my fellow subscribers.
>Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
>I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
>Many thanks.
>Ron
>
>In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and
>or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
>Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
>Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS
>Certified as well
>
>
>
>
>












moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

If the column is selected, alt-h-o-i will adjust to the widest cell; if not, it will adjust the width to that of the current cell, whether or not there are larger cells.

At 01:24 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
in addition, alt h o i will automatically adjust the width of a column of cells to the longest width according to the number of characters.


On 10/6/2020 2:04 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
The default width for a cell is 8.11 characters. if there is more text, it spills over to the right into the next cell(s). There is a JAWS setting, cell text visibility I think, that when checked will alert when the text goes into additional space. Alt+h, o, w will tell you how wide a cell is, and allow you to change the width.
At 12:37 PM 10/6/2020, you wrote:
Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? Iâ?Tm told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesnâ?Tt look right

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel <zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:

Cheers Anne, Iâ?Tll try that next time.

Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant

Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: zel@inclusiveworld.com.au

On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Often if the screen is restored, not
maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:

For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.

To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.

For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.

To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.



My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't
always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.



Hope that helps.



Zel



image001.jpg



Zel Iscel

Disability Specialist

Inclusive World

Mobile: 0413813885

Email: <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au>zel@inclusiveworld.com.au



From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.

I'll post a link to a Microsoft support
page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.



Maybe there is a more direct way.



Here is the page I got from searching the web:

<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46>;https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel





Hello, I'm using most recent versions of
windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?

Then to change the width of a entire
column, I would have to highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider. Cheers, Kevin











.



moderated Re: Width of cell in Excel

 

Brian,



How much text will fit in a cell depends on the width of the column in which the cell resides. I don't believe Excel allows setting the width of individual cells. How text which takes more space than the width of its column appears will depend on what the cell to its immediate right has in it. If that cell is blank, the too wide text will spill over and display in the adjacent cell. If the adjacent cell is not blank, the too wide text will be cut off and not displayed even though it is still in the cell.



You can change the format of individual cells to set them to wrap text when the text they contain is too wide to fit in the width of their column. This will cause the row they are in to expand in height in order to display the wrapped text. To do this, place focus in the cell you wish to have the text wrapped or select an entire column or a group of cells for which you want to wrap text and then:



1. Press ctrl + 1 to open the format dialog box.

2. Press ctrl + tab to move to the alignment tab in the format dialog box.

3. Press tab until you reach the wrap text checkbox and press space to check it.

4. Press tab until you reach the Ok button and press enter.



Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel



Actually, how much text Will fit in a cell? I m told if you put too much text in a cell it just plain doesn t look right



On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Zel Iscel < <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> wrote:
Cheers Anne, I ll try that next time.
Zel Iscel
Inclusive World
Principle Consultant
Mobile: +61 0413813885
Email: <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
On 23 Sep 2020, at 5:14 am, Ann Byrne < <mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net> annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
?Often if the screen is restored, not maximized, the commands don't work as advertised.
At 02:38 PM 9/22/2020, you wrote:
For automatic row height adjustment, it's alt h then o then a.
To manually adjust row height, it's alt h then o then h.
For automatic column width, it's alt h then o then i.
To manually adjust column width, it's alt h then o then w.
My Jaws versions of 2018 and 2019 don't always respond to these commands so I press alt h then tab to cells format then press enter, and I can choose between row height, column width,etc with the up and down arrows. Or sometimes I'll restart Jaws, but that doesn't always help either.
Hope that helps.
Zel
image001.jpg
Zel Iscel
Disability Specialist
Inclusive World
Mobile: 0413813885
Email: < <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> <mailto:zel@inclusiveworld.com.au> zel@inclusiveworld.com.au
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:10 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Width of cell in Excel
Well, it seems to be less obvious these days.
I'll post a link to a Microsoft support page below, but one way to get there is to press alt+q, type cell width, arrow down to cell width and hit enter.
Maybe there is a more direct way.
Here is the page I got from searching the web:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-
and-row-height-72f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46> <https://support>; https://support.
microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-column-width-and-row-height-72
f5e3cc-994d-43e8-ae58-9774a0905f46
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
<< <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin
meyers
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: < <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Width of cell in Excel
Hello, I'm using most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2020. I'm also using Office 2016. I want to change the width of a cell. When I got to the spot to change the width it said it was 8.11. Is that the number of characters that can fit in the cell?
Then to change the width of a entire column, I would have to
highlight the column and then make the size of the cell wider.
Cheers, Kevin


moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Jessica D
 

Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica

On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well

















moderated Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hank William Merchant
 

Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user,
Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well

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