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moderated customizing JAWS announcements

Shai
 

Hello,
I have set my JAWS verbosity to intermediate in settings center and I
am trying to figure out how to eliminate the announcement of my
pressing control n in Outlook or a windows d to get to the desktop.
Is there an option I should check?
Thank you in advance for any responses.


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moderated Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Glenn,

you wrote:

How will screenreaders do this?
Will Jaws and NVDA have apps on the Microsoft store?
No one can see into the future and see what's happening. But you shouldn't be fearful about this. In different post I could read that Microsoft Store isn't as successful as for example the Apple Store or Google Store. Vendors have to pay money to publish their apps in Microsoft Store and not all of them are willing to do this. And even if there's only one App Store to download apps you can be sure the screenreader companies will adapt to this situation. But this is far far away, at least to my opinion.

Further you wrote:

Another good reason to lean more towards Linux.
As far as I know it's hard to deal with Linux as a blind or visually impaired person. I won't say this is impossible but to my opinion you have to restrict yourself in using Linux. Maybe a Mac could be an alternative for you - I know a view people using it or using Windows and a Mac at the same time (me too).

Best wishes
Udo


moderated Re: iTunes with Jaws 2021

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Monica, 

As far as I know Bonjour is a service by Apple. In the web I was reading that Bonjour was made for different devices so they could communicate with each other. And further that not only iTunes is using this service (Quicktime uses this service as well). So if you want to deinstall this service you should ensure that no other application on your computer will use this service. 

How to uninstall iTunes completely you can read here: 


But be careful: On this side you can read: 

Don't uninstall these components in a different order

If you plan to install the Microsoft store app you should know that at this time not all things are fully accessible. At this time personally I thinks there's no need to change to the Microsoft app in a hurry. You can still use the old version as long as you can download it from Apple site. Hopefully Apple will work on more accessibility and you can change later. 

Good luck 
Udo 


Am 24.02.2021 um 13:43 schrieb Monica S <mrod16@...>:

Can you tell me which other apps I should uninstall from my computer regarding iTunes before I download the iTunes app from the Microsoft store?  I’ve seen Bonjour on this computer but didn’t know what it was.  I currently don’t have iTunes installed on my computer but had it on a previous one.  Thank you for any assistance. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
Monica 


moderated Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Cynthia Bruce
 

Thanks, Mike, I tried this and no difference. I will try to restart in the morning and then do it again.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: February 24, 2021 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

This was a supposed fix in the latest February update, see below:

• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to
another sound device.

Open your Settings Center default all applications

Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a couple of seconds for the results to pop-up.

You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech cutoff when using bluetooth....

Make sure this is checked, and if it's already check, you could try unchecking it to see if anything changes as well.

 

I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech issue.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM

Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Mike B
 

Hi Cynthia,
 
This was a supposed fix in the latest February update, see below:
• Resolved an issue where the Avoid Speech Cut Off feature stopped working when using the Sound Cards  option in the JAWS Utilities menu to switch to
another sound device.
Open your Settings Center default all applications
Type, avoid, in the search field and allow a couple of seconds for the results to pop-up.
You should have only 1 result, Avoid speech cutoff when using bluetooth....
Make sure this is checked, and if it's already check, you could try unchecking it to see if anything changes as well.
 
I didn't have any problems with a bluetooth headset but, I did have a problem losing speech all together after this update and checking that checkbox seemed to clear up my loss of speech issue.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:17 PM
Subject: JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Hello Everyone,

 

I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated JAWS and Bluetooth headphones again

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hello Everyone,

 

I have encountered an issue with JAWS and my Bluetooth headphones again, and it seems to have happened right after I installed the February update to JAWS 2021. I am using Windows 10, and Jabra evolve Bluetooth headphones. Before, my issue was that I lost speech when using zoom, but I managed to trouble shoot that problem by changing soundcards when using JAWS. Now, when I turn on my headset, I lose speech everywhere. Does anyone know anything about this? If not, can I uninstall the latest update?

 

Many thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Maybe. Would be interesting to see it tried. I personally feel it wouldn’t’ be fast enough and result in a fairly unpleasant experience, but I’m not really certain.

Despite the lack of sync-up (I don’t know how or if that can be done), having a braille display with a text file loaded (srt) still seems the best choice to me, personally. Trouble is, you’d have trouble finding new content this way. I’m ok with it because I mostly watch old cult films. Lol

That said I did want to watch the series Dark in German because the english dubbing is horrendous to me (although interestingly, my german friend didn’t find it so).

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: February 24, 2021 02:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to read it with the app Seeing AI.

You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front of the TV.

They do make bendable clamps for holding phones.

I would think it would need to be plugged in for power backup if watching an entire movie.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM

Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

 

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

 

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

 

Do any of you know how to do this?

 

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moderated Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Glenn / Lenny
 


You could always use the iPhone, maybe Android to read it with the app Seeing AI.
You would need a clamp to hold the phone in front of the TV.
They do make bendable clamps for holding phones.
I would think it would need to be plugged in for power backup if watching an entire movie.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:04 PM
Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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moderated Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

Although this doesn’t directly answer your question, I haven’t tried it but there is an experimental add on for NVDA which I believe can read OCR in real time from a video. Again, I haven’t tried this, it seems people are using it to read subtitles (some people seem to be having more success than others) but if you want to read more about the add on there is a topic on the audio games forum, I’ll put the link below. Just talking subtitles, I know  on my iPhone voice over will read subtitles if I’m watching something on the Netflix  app which has subtitles (I know as I accidently turned on subtitles by mistake the other day hahaha). anyway, link to that NVDA addon topic below:

 

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/33489/lion-nvda-continuous-ocr-reader-works-for-subtitles-video-games/

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Benstead
Sent: 24 February 2021 19:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

 

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

 

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

 

Do any of you know how to do this?

 

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moderated Re: Jaws will not read setting options

ratshtron
 

if you are using a desktop computer try pressing shift plus numpad plus to turn the touch cursor and then using the arrow keys you should be able to hear something. on a laptop, i believe the command is shift plus caps lock plus [ to turn the touch cursor. to turn it off press the jaws cursor command numpad minus on the desktop and shift plus plus caps lock plus [.

tag said:
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Bill,

Thanks!

I will give that a try. I tried an update and restarting, so off to try a repair. Yes, I do live in the U.S.

Take care!

Tammy



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not read setting options



Hi, Tammy. The first thing I would try is a JAWS repair. You will need the installer file for JAWS 2020. If that doesn't work, I will write to you privately, and, if you are in the U.S. or Canada, I can call you, do a tandem with your computer, and figure out why it's not reading your dialogs.



Bill White



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:51 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws will not read setting options



Ok, running Jaws 2020. This is so odd to me! I had to go to my task bar to reconnect my internet yesterday. When I should have been reading the list of connections, my Jaws read nothing. Today I went into change my default browser. Once again, when I should have been reading information, nothing was read. I could use insert b and it would read but I was not able to make changes or navigate to anything.



Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how to resolve this?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

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moderated Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Yeah...there doesn't really seem anything else it could do, honestly.

In my opinion, the *only* really pleasant way to deal with subtitles is with a braille display.
I try to find .srt files on the internet, which are basically just text fiels with time codes.
It's not the best experience but, well, there are millions of films in languages I don't understand, so as a person who appreciates cinema, what else can you do? Lol

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: February 24, 2021 02:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances.

On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote:
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS
interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files
that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with
subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles
that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access
these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've
ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know
because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and
he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that
having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

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moderated Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?

 

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 03:30 PM, JM Casey wrote:
JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts.
-
This cannot be stated often enough.  A huge amount of JAWS functionality is not a part of its core code, but of scripts.

There's nothing wrong with this model, but if you stripped JAWS of the script sets it ships with, you'd not have anything you recognize as JAWS.

By the way, scripts generally only need to be updated if something "entirely new" is put into the user interface.  And by that I don't mean a new bell or whistle that's in an existing control set, as that just adds an item that would be traversed and accessed like all the other ones.  Many scripts for many things, though not all, will not receive frequent updates because they don't need them.
 
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moderated Re: Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

I don't know a general answer but do know on youtube I've encountered
videos with accompanying transcription text where the text is
highlighted in time with the progressing video. I actually find this
particular set-up incredibly annoying to deal with because jaws reads
the changing selection as the voice on the recording advances.

On 2/24/21, James Benstead <james.benstead@gmail.com> wrote:
Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS
interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that
play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with
subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are
included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and
somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever
done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because
he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to
make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out
subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

--
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--
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moderated Accessing video subtitles with JAWS

James Benstead
 

Earlier today a friend of mine phoned me up to ask me about how JAWS interacts with the subtitles on videos: both standalone video files that play in apps like VLC, and videos that run in websites like YouTube.

I know that without very quick OCR, JAWS would always struggle with subtitles that are "burnt in" to a video. But what about subtitles that are included as a text file along with the video? Can JAWS access these, and somehow synchronise them with a video as it plays?

In speaking to my friend it struck me that this isn't something I've ever done, and that I don't know how to do it. My friend wants to know because he produces educational videos for a publishing company, and he wants to make them more accessible. It also occurs to me that having JAWS read out subtitles could be used to create a form of audio description.

Do any of you know how to do this?

--
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moderated Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?

JM Casey
 

Hmm.yeah, but I don’t' think the interface has changed much. I could be
wrong.
If there are other scripts theya re probably made by a third party and I'm
not aware of them. I suspect there aren't any. Up to some clever person(s)
to create them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: February 24, 2021 08:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?

I looked at the actual scripts for Symphony. They have not been updated
since 2015; meaning about the time Symphony went away. So, since Libre
Office has been continually morphing and updating since that time, I still
wonder if there may be some other script set or application to which it
ought to be associated.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?

JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts. If you don't get any extra
ones from the internet or elsewhere, you are just using ones that come witht
eh software -- there are many, pretty much all the applications that are
listed in the help topics for jaws have got a script set, and since that
application help is not updated too often, they have probably added more
recently, too that I'm not aware of.
Third-party scripts are just that, third-party scripts, based on the same
principle.
The Symphony scripts are a part of the JFW software. I don't know if anyone
has created third-party scripts...if not, then that is probably the best you
will get. That doesn't mean the scripts haven't been updated since the days
of Symphony (a really long time ago); just that Symphony is a generic
catch-all term now for everything under the Open Office model/umbrella.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: February 22, 2021 03:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?

where can the scripts be gotten from, I thought scripts for JAWS weren't
necessary anymore?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2021, 2:42 PM
Subject: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?
Hi!

I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and Libre Office 7.1 (LO).  Natively, JAWS
points to the “Symphony” application for the script set it uses for LO.
Given the many years that have lapsed since Symphony was active and the
commensurate progression of LO, is there a better application script set for
to point to; maybe even just “Default?”  if so, how do you go about making
that change?

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre Office?

Richard B. McDonald
 

I looked at the actual scripts for Symphony. They have not been updated
since 2015; meaning about the time Symphony went away. So, since Libre
Office has been continually morphing and updating since that time, I still
wonder if there may be some other script set or application to which it
ought to be associated.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?

JAWS is based almost entirely on its scripts. If you don't get any extra
ones from the internet or elsewhere, you are just using ones that come witht
eh software -- there are many, pretty much all the applications that are
listed in the help topics for jaws have got a script set, and since that
application help is not updated too often, they have probably added more
recently, too that I'm not aware of.
Third-party scripts are just that, third-party scripts, based on the same
principle.
The Symphony scripts are a part of the JFW software. I don't know if anyone
has created third-party scripts...if not, then that is probably the best you
will get. That doesn't mean the scripts haven't been updated since the days
of Symphony (a really long time ago); just that Symphony is a generic
catch-all term now for everything under the Open Office model/umbrella.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: February 22, 2021 03:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?

where can the scripts be gotten from, I thought scripts for JAWS weren't
necessary anymore?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2021, 2:42 PM
Subject: Is some script set besides "Symphony" better to use with Libre
Office?
Hi!

I am using JAWS 2020, Windows 10 and Libre Office 7.1 (LO).  Natively, JAWS
points to the “Symphony” application for the script set it uses for LO.
Given the many years that have lapsed since Symphony was active and the
commensurate progression of LO, is there a better application script set for
to point to; maybe even just “Default?”  if so, how do you go about making
that change?

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: iTunes with Jaws 2021

Monica S
 

Can you tell me which other apps I should uninstall from my computer regarding iTunes before I download the iTunes app from the Microsoft store?  I’ve seen Bonjour on this computer but didn’t know what it was.  I currently don’t have iTunes installed on my computer but had it on a previous one.  Thank you for any assistance.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Itunes with Jaws 2021

 

Hi John, 

 

You wrote: 

 

I think that was not the correct place to download the itunes

applications, just go to apple.com and download the installer from there and maybe you'd get a better idea.

 

There are two versions of iTunes available. The newest one is the iTunes app you can download from Microsoft Store. You can still download the older one from the Apple homepage, that's right, but this version - at least as far as I know - will not developed further any more. So sooner or later you will be forced to change to the new app 

 

You've probably heard of Windows 10 S, the OS version allowing only installations of apps from Microsoft Store. In this article: 

 

 

you can read that Windows 10 S was leading Apple to develop the Microsoft Store version. By the way, the benefit of using the app from Microsoft Store is a clean install. If you install the old native app you will get services from Apple installed too, for example Bonjour. 

 

Because all of this I tried the Microsoft Store app first. 

 

Best wishes 

Udo 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Win10 Mail app question

Joseph Hudson
 

Hi Maria, user. tab in the arrow keys to navigate around the mailboxes. If you need to access the file menu to add an account, use your old key and then use your respective air keys to navigate around.

On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:20 PM, Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, how do you navigate in a thread when using Windows 10 mail?


moderated Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite

 

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:43 PM, Mike B wrote:
So, you're saying that I can copy / paste the, normal.dotm, file that I've created manually for 2010 into the same file path below and use it in 2016?
-
Yes.  Copy it somewhere, anywhere that you know where it is.

Uninstall Office 2010.  Install Office 2016.  Delete fresh Normal.dotm that was created by the install.  Copy your backup copy of Normal.dotm back to your user, AppData, Roaming, Microsoft, Templates.

By the way, if you open a new blank file in word, and do a Save As, one of the file type options is dotx, document template.  If you do that save, the dotx will end up in the same folder as Normal.dotm.  This actually drives me crazy, and I always move my DOTX files out to folders that are related to what I created that template for.  I have lots of templates for envelopes, letters with letterhead, and similar.  I also use them for fillable MS-Word forms, where activating the DOTX file creates a "blank" version of the fillable form with the various form fields you fill out. 
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           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite

Mike B
 


In other words I don't need to rename the file at all for the, normal.dotm, to work in Word 2016, if I'm understanding your message correctly?  Thanks much.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Using Older Normal.dotm in Newer Office Suite

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:10 PM, Mike B wrote:
I wonder what would happen if I change the, dotm, to a, dotx?  I'm going to try it just to see what happens!  LOL
-
When you try to create a new blank document I expect it will not have all the things you've tweaked over time.  Luckily, you can just undo the renaming, and you'll be doing that.
 
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           ~ André Gide

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