From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 8, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrated power points and JAWS

Do you have an example that can be viewed without needing to be logged in to something?  Having a working (or non-working) example is the only way I can do any digging around.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: October 8, 2020 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrated power points and JAWS

Are you able to download the presentations and run them in native PowerPoint?

I have found over the years that the web-based readers are sometimes problematic.  I try to avoid using browser-based readers for MS-Office documents (regardless of the Office program) whenever possible.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

On Oct 7, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Jim,

 

How about if you tell Defender to ignore the installer?  Also, do you have your system set to install apps from outside the MS Store?  Steps for both are below:

 

From: Brian Vogel
This question gets asked every once in a while, so having a dedicated topic in the archive seems prudent.  Credit to Joseph Lee for the step-by-step instructions,
which I have modified ever so slightly.
Adding & Removing Scan Exclusions in Windows Defender Security Center

 

The following steps were created using the Windows 10 Version 1803 version of Windows Defender Security Center:

 

list of 6 items
1. Open Windows Defender Security Center.
2. Navigate to Virus & threat protection pane then activate the Virus & threat protection settings link then activate the Add or remove exclusions link.

 

3. Select Add an exclusion.
4. Select File or Folder depending on what you wish to exclude.  Options for Process or a File type are also presented, but these are used relatively rarely.

 

5. Navigate to the file and/or folder where Defender is being told to skip scanning and press Enter.
6. When User Account Control appears, respond Yes to continue.
list end

 

If you wish to remove something from the exclusions list, follow steps 1 thru 3, but then select an item in the exclusions list, then click “Remove” and
respond Yes when UAC appears.

 

 

End of file app store steps are below.

 

 

To change your app download and installation options  to something other than the Microsoft Store do the following:
 
1. Windows + I, for settings and tab 1 time to, System.
 
2. Right arrow to, Apps,  press enter, and tab 1 time into the list of categories.
 
3. The first item in the list is, Apps and Features, press enter on this, and tab 1 time to the app install options combobox. 
 
4. Press, Alt + down arrow, to open the combobox.
There are four options:
1. only from the Microsoft Store.
 
2. Anywhere, but warn me if it's not from the Microsoft store.
 
3. anywhere but let me know if there is a comparable app in the Microsoft store.
 
 4. Anywhere.
 
5. Arrow up / down to the option you want and press enter.  Press, Alt + F4, to close and just to make sure your settings change takes effect, reboot your
computer.

 

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Weiss via groups.io

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 10:29 AM

Subject: Unable to install Stascom software that Mike B. Spoke of yesterday

All,
The other day Mike wrote the list about a program called Stascom and I liked some of the features.  I downloaded the installer but I can’t complete the installation.  The best I can tell is Windows Defender is blocking and putting the executable in quarantine.  I am running Windows 10 version 2004 and it is fully patched as of 10/7/2020 and JAWS 2020 (the August version).  The software installs but on the first run I get a message that the process was blocked and my only option is “OK”.  If I navigate to the directory and run the program I get the same message and the executable disappears.
Any help is appreciated.  I am very new to Win 10.
Thanks,
Jim

Greetings my friend I looked at that and it says anywhere and still getting the message.

Hi, Jim. Make sure that your Windows is set to install software from anywhere, under Apps and Features.

I was trying to install the program and I got a message saying windows protected your pc is their a work around?

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

 

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

 

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

 

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 

I was trying to install the program and I got a message saying windows protected your pc is their a work around?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to install Stascom software that Mike B. Spoke of yesterday

 

Hi Jim,

 

I do not know why you are having problems installing the software, but I can let you know that I am running Stascom on the latest version of Windows 10. without a problem.

And you are correct, it is a good little utility.

 

Chris

 

On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

 

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

 

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

Hi, Jim. Make sure that your Windows is set to install software from anywhere, under Apps and Features.

I was trying to install the program and I got a message saying windows protected your pc is their a work around?

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

 

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

 

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

 

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 

I was trying to install the program and I got a message saying windows protected your pc is their a work around?

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

 

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

 

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

 

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

 

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

 

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

 

Virus-free. www.avg.com

On Oct 7, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Thanks Mike and Brian.

Brian:  Yes, that is the exact software I was referring to.  Thanks for the update on its EOS and EOL.  That is sad news as this sounded like a nifty little tool, I will have to keep an eye out for a replacement.

Mike:  Thanks for the ideas and instructions.  I am very new to Windows 10.  I will give them a try just to see if I can get it installed, but based on Brian’s last comment it sounds futile.

Regards,

Jim

Jim Weiss

jimweiss72@...

“When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced.  So, live your life that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice!” | Unknown Native American

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH

On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using
jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica

On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed
Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares
and NIMS Certified as well

On Oct 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just as an aside, but I think it's an important one, Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of that software.  It is no longer supported, per the statement on the developer's page: "Stascom 2019.4 is the final version of the program. Due to other commitments I will not be able to add additional functionality to the package. This also means that I will not be providing e-mail support for the program."

Depending on exactly how it does what it does, it could eventually break, and if it does that's the end of the road.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:

I, for one, can't remember when i last heard that one. I'm currently using the beta with my verbosity set to intermediate, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I've been using that setting for longer than I can remember.


CH

On 10/6/2020 17:26, Randy Barnett wrote:
So you never hear "Jaws has lost focus. Press alt plus tab"? Is announce lost focus turned off in settings? I have been using Jaws for over 25 years on dozens of systems and it has always happened more than it should. It got better for wile then came back and will get better again.

To be fair though it is most likely Windows pulling Jaws focus to some temporary notification or something like that.

On 10/6/2020 12:55 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
I'm using jaws2020, with Windows 10 home.
I also have a computer running windows10 pro, that I'm using
jaws2020 with, and neither one have exhibited this issue

Thanks,
Jessica

On Oct 6, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Hank William Merchant <hank_w@xplornet.ca> wrote:


Hello Jessica,

What version of jaws are you using, is it home or pro, and what version of Windows are you using? Thanks!







Kindest regards,

Jaws18 home version with Win10 user, Hank


-----Original Message----- From: Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

Hi Ron,

I'm not experiencing this issue.

Could you tell us more about your system?

What version of the Operating system are you running?
Is it the home or pro version?
Is your jaws up-to-date?

Thanks,

Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Kolesar
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is the following a JAWS 2020 bug?

To my fellow subscribers.
Every time I turn around I hear Lost focus, press alt tab.
I hope this bug is fixed when 2021 is released.
Many thanks.
Ron

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes, From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed
Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares
and NIMS Certified as well