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Have Files in Alphabetical Order
Stanley Haupt
Hello Everyone:
I have a flash drive that does not have the files in alphabetical order. The letter z is at the top and the letter a is at the bottom. How do I fix this issue?
Stanley Haupt
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Re: OneDrive Tips or tutorial
Van Lant, Robin
Vispero did a webinar on One Drive that I just listened to. Find it on their training page or the new FS Training podcast.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OneDrive Tips or tutorial
Just as with Dropbox, once you signed into OneDrive with your Microsoft account allyou have do do is make sure all the files you want to sync are inside the OneDrive folder. You do have to check OneDrive settings as by default it may keep content more in the cloud, but you can choose for everything to download so that a local copy is on your device.
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On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
I would like to start using Microsoft OneDrive so I can have the same files on my desktop computer and ElBraille computer. Does anyone know where I can find tips on using OneDrive, or a tutorial?
I would like my files to be kept locally on each computer and constantly synchronized with OneDrive. That way I could work on a file even if the internet is not available and it would synchronize and update when the internet became available.
Thank you for your help.
Randy Meyer
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Re: I'm having trouble installing Kindle on the latest Windows 10 2004 build.
Randy Barnett
Hi, your welcome.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 9/29/2020 6:17 PM, Kevin Minor
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Re: Winamp doesn't load scripts
Steve Matzura
Oh, this is an old nemesis. Sometimes Windows does weird weird things with focus. Another one you'll find is that if you're playing a real track, not a stream, and you attempt to use the script commands to have JAWS speak time elapsed or time remaining, JAWS will say "Alt Shift T" and "Control Shift T" respectively. For best results, close all other windows but Winamp, or deal with the abberrant behavior which has been going on forever. I don't understand it, and frankly, I don't know anyone else who does.
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On 9/30/2020 2:51 PM, Mario wrote:
when I want to play a stream by entering on a PLS file, Winamp starts the playback. however, if I want to use the presets to adjust the volume level (control+alt+comma, period, or slash (33%, 66% or 100%)), I cannot because I have to alt+tab to the Winamp window, and the scripts have not loaded. I know this because if I press insert+q, JAWS says:
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Re: Using the Windows 10 Voice Recorder
Paul Filpus
Hi JM,
My mistake. With your prompt, I went to my audio settings, ran a fix on the microphone, and my problem was solved. Thanks for your help. Paul
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Winamp doesn't load scripts
Mario
when I want to play a stream by entering on a PLS file, Winamp starts the playback. however, if I want to use the presets to adjust the volume level (control+alt+comma, period, or slash (33%, 66% or 100%)), I cannot because I have to alt+tab to the Winamp window, and the scripts have not loaded. I know this because if I press insert+q, JAWS says:
Windows Explorer settings are loaded The application currently being used is Winamp.exe so I then press insert+numrow 0, in which JAWS says: JAWS Script Manager - [Shared:explorerframe.JSS] Shared:explorerframe.JSS
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Would anyone know how to do a message rule?
Ron Kolesar
Hello to all.
Would appreciate it if anyone would know how to create a message rule, to ship that knowledge my way please. In WLM, it was oh so easy. You had four columns from left to right. The first column I always down arrowed until I saw Where To or CC contains people. I always made sure that one was checked. I think I'm stuck on step two within Outlook's message rules instructions. If anyone could show me via keyboard commands the following: 1. where the name of the rule goes. 2. Where the e-mail address for that rule goes. 3. How to make sure the mail has a audio sound and goes into the correct mailbox. Many thanks. Ron who's still learning how to use the outlook mail package with JAWS 2020 In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well
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Re: I'm having trouble installing Kindle on the latest Windows 10 2004 build.
Kevin Minor
Hi again.
I’m usually not a violent person, but JAWS had be on the lookout tonight. Randy, you were right. I got the app from the Amazon site. I don’t have older versions of JAWS, but your thinking made me try Narrator on the problem. It worked great, and I now have Kindle up and running. Now I just need to try it out.
Thanks again for the help.
Kevin and Jilly
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I'm having trouble installing Kindle on the latest Windows 10 2004 build.
Did you download it from the Microsoft store or from Amazon? Sometimes universal apps i.e. MS store dont work with jaws or other screenreaders for that matter. Try useing an earlier version of Jaws to see if it is Jaws 2020 or Kindle. On 9/29/2020 5:40 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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Re: I'm having trouble installing Kindle on the latest Windows 10 2004 build.
Randy Barnett
Did you download it from the Microsoft store or from Amazon?
Sometimes universal apps i.e. MS store dont work with jaws or
other screenreaders for that matter. Try useing an earlier version of Jaws to see if it is Jaws 2020
or Kindle.
On 9/29/2020 5:40 PM, Kevin Minor
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I'm having trouble installing Kindle on the latest Windows 10 2004 build.
Kevin Minor
Hi.
I’ve called Amazon on this issue, and they’re stumped. I tried to install the Kindle app on this PC. It goes through the process of installing, then it disappears, and I’m back in the download folder. There’s a shortcut on the desktop, and when I try to use it, JAWS 2020 does report a list of 0 books, then I’m thrown right back on the desktop. I’ve checked both the sys tray and open programs, but it ain’t there. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any help. Kevin and Jilly
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Re: Using the Windows 10 Voice Recorder
JM Casey
Sounds like you did everything right. I just looked at this programme yesterday and it’s pretty basic – not sure why you’re not getting an audible recordinng. Does the microphone work in other cases/applications? Is the volume high enough? I’m not certain but you could look to see in the microphone settings accessible from the sound recorder itself – it’s a button that takes you to a part of Windows settings, I believe, to configure which apps are permitted to use the mic. Mine worked right away though without being granted permission – I think all windows programmes may have it by default.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: September 29, 2020 2:12 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Using the Windows 10 Voice Recorder
Hello Listers, When I press the windows key on my laptop, I see there’s a Windows 10 app called Voice Recorder listed. With my internal microphone turned on, I tried recording a test file. I then tried listening to the recording.M4A file I created in my sound recordings subfolder, in the documents folder, but heard nothing. Can anyone give me the procedure for using Voice Recorder? Thanks, Paul
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Using the Windows 10 Voice Recorder
Paul Filpus
Hello Listers, When I press the windows key on my laptop, I see there’s a Windows 10 app called Voice Recorder listed. With my internal microphone turned on, I tried recording a test file. I then tried listening to the recording.M4A file I created in my sound recordings subfolder, in the documents folder, but heard nothing. Can anyone give me the procedure for using Voice Recorder? Thanks, Paul
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Re: Edge browser and favorites
John Covici
What I do is after the control-c, I just go to my favorites folder and
hit alt-h-w-s paste the URL in the location, hit next and name my shortcut. On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 00:13:26 -0400, Randy Barnett wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: downloading a file
Laura Shumate
Insert B will read you the dialogue if you have the dialogue of the
Downloaded file in focus. Laura Shumate larelishumate@gmail.com
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Re: Express-Scripts website to refill prescriptions
Adrian Spratt
Robin,
I agree, it’s useful for JAWS users to find out which companies address the needs of screenreader users. So thanks.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Express-Scripts website to refill prescriptions
While I didn’t hear from anyone who is a user of Express-Scripts yet, I sent in feedback on the website and got a fast response. She offered me help getting my immediate needs for a prescription met and also connected me with a usability representative who also knows JAWS. We met yesterday so I could show him my challenge. I showed him that the menu to open options for prescriptions wasn’t working as I’d expect and that I had to use the JAWS cursor. He suggested another route that I’ll be testing for using the Links List. The guy was truly interested in my experience and what could make it better. Once I got to where I could refill my prescription, the process was really smooth.
Just wanted to share, in case any of you do end up using Express-Scripts for your Rx insurance.
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On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Anyone else an Express-Scripts user for prescriptions? I have refilled on their website before, but they redesigned it since my last refill and now I cannot get to where I need to refill. It appears (from the bit of remaining vision I have) that they have made it like tabs across the page and I think I see drop down arrows that expand when you click on the tab. JAWS read the tabs as buttons and says menu expanded, but it also goes into forms mode and then I cannot navigate I tried using the JAWS cursor and I’m not sure if it did anything or not. Also, even when it says an in-page link for available refills, I cannot find anything refreshing in the main area to show my prescriptions. So frustrated. I filled in a complaint on the feedback form, but wondering if anyone else is a user and can test it, too.
I am using latest JAWS 202 and Google Chrome.
I guess I’ll call an AIRA agent to help me navigate.
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Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Bill White
Hi, Tom. There may be more than one .exe or .com file in the programs folder, and you may be choosing the wrong file to create the shortcut for.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Brian:
I tried these instructions via the windows run command. Once again, the shortcut was successfully created on the desktop, but hitting enter on the desktop shortcut does not launch the program.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10 Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Tom Behler
JM:
I really don’t know the answer to your last question.
Perhaps I’ll ask the next time I talk to the person who created the program.
As I said, I at least got something working here.
Thanks to all for your patience in following this thread.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Considering the shortcut key invokes the desktop shortcut – yeah that is pretty strange.
I personally never use the desktop by putting stuff on it and navigating around to find them. I’ll use it if I really want a keyboard shortcut to activate a programme, which, yeah, sometimes I do. Otherwise though, it always seems to me that there are more efficient ways to start something (for me, often that’s using the run box and just typing in the name, but I realise that isn’t going to be the case for everyone).
Does the programme have switches that are supposed to be invoked with the running? E.g.: programname /blahblah If so, and the switches are not present causing the programme to terminate unexpectedly, maybe the programmer didn’t put in any error message to return on the display.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
When using the Windows run command and going to the shellapps folder, the program does nothing, like was the case when hitting enter on the original desktop shortcut.
Yet, when I use the shortcut key command that I created for the program, the program opens just fine.
At least I got that to work.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hm…
When you use the run command though, do you get the “windows could not find…” etc error message, or does it just do nothing like when you activate the shortcut?
The name in alla pps and the name of the executable aren’t necessarily the same. But it sounds like you already found the programme/location, anyway.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
JM:
The program runs fine when I access it from the all apps list.
However, interestingly, I can’t access it via the windows R run command. I double-checked the name of the program in the all apps list before entering the name into the run command edit box, but the program still won’t come up that way.
Again, though, it works just fine when accessing it from the All Apps list.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Tom, Find the location of the actual programme on your computer (not the shortcut), and see if that runs Will probably be installed in c:\program files or c:\program files (x86) If you examine the file properties of the short-cut (alt-enter on the shortcut) it will tell you where the programme location and executable filename is. If you use the “run” command you should just be able to type in that name and if the programme doesn’t run still – you know the problem isn’t with the shortcut.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Cathyanne:
Unfortunately, that did not work for me.
In other words, I got the same results; the shortcut shows up on the desktop, but nothing happens when I highlight it and press enter on it.
If you or any others have more suggestions, I’ll give them a try.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
You are creating a shortcut to a shortcut.
Follow your steps through number 3.
Copy the shortcut, CTRL-C.
Focus on the Desktop, WINDOWS KEY-D.
Paste the shortcut, CTRL-V.
That should fix your issue.
CathyAnne
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:28 PM -0700, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
JM Casey
Considering the shortcut key invokes the desktop shortcut – yeah that is pretty strange.
I personally never use the desktop by putting stuff on it and navigating around to find them. I’ll use it if I really want a keyboard shortcut to activate a programme, which, yeah, sometimes I do. Otherwise though, it always seems to me that there are more efficient ways to start something (for me, often that’s using the run box and just typing in the name, but I realise that isn’t going to be the case for everyone).
Does the programme have switches that are supposed to be invoked with the running? E.g.: programname /blahblah If so, and the switches are not present causing the programme to terminate unexpectedly, maybe the programmer didn’t put in any error message to return on the display.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: September 29, 2020 11:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
When using the Windows run command and going to the shellapps folder, the program does nothing, like was the case when hitting enter on the original desktop shortcut.
Yet, when I use the shortcut key command that I created for the program, the program opens just fine.
At least I got that to work.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Hm…
When you use the run command though, do you get the “windows could not find…” etc error message, or does it just do nothing like when you activate the shortcut?
The name in alla pps and the name of the executable aren’t necessarily the same. But it sounds like you already found the programme/location, anyway.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
JM:
The program runs fine when I access it from the all apps list.
However, interestingly, I can’t access it via the windows R run command. I double-checked the name of the program in the all apps list before entering the name into the run command edit box, but the program still won’t come up that way.
Again, though, it works just fine when accessing it from the All Apps list.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Tom, Find the location of the actual programme on your computer (not the shortcut), and see if that runs Will probably be installed in c:\program files or c:\program files (x86) If you examine the file properties of the short-cut (alt-enter on the shortcut) it will tell you where the programme location and executable filename is. If you use the “run” command you should just be able to type in that name and if the programme doesn’t run still – you know the problem isn’t with the shortcut.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Cathyanne:
Unfortunately, that did not work for me.
In other words, I got the same results; the shortcut shows up on the desktop, but nothing happens when I highlight it and press enter on it.
If you or any others have more suggestions, I’ll give them a try.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
You are creating a shortcut to a shortcut.
Follow your steps through number 3.
Copy the shortcut, CTRL-C.
Focus on the Desktop, WINDOWS KEY-D.
Paste the shortcut, CTRL-V.
That should fix your issue.
CathyAnne
--- CathyAnne Murtha Access Technology Institute (520) 955-6611
CathyAnne Murtha CEO Access Technology Institute, LLC Phone: (520) 955-6611
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:28 PM -0700, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Tom Behler
When using the Windows run command and going to the shellapps folder, the program does nothing, like was the case when hitting enter on the original desktop shortcut.
Yet, when I use the shortcut key command that I created for the program, the program opens just fine.
At least I got that to work.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Having Trouble With Desktop Shortcut For Newly-Installed Program
Hm…
When you use the run command though, do you get the “windows could not find…” etc error message, or does it just do nothing like when you activate the shortcut?
The name in alla pps and the name of the executable aren’t necessarily the same. But it sounds like you already found the programme/location, anyway.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
JM:
The program runs fine when I access it from the all apps list.
However, interestingly, I can’t access it via the windows R run command. I double-checked the name of the program in the all apps list before entering the name into the run command edit box, but the program still won’t come up that way.
Again, though, it works just fine when accessing it from the All Apps list.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Tom, Find the location of the actual programme on your computer (not the shortcut), and see if that runs Will probably be installed in c:\program files or c:\program files (x86) If you examine the file properties of the short-cut (alt-enter on the shortcut) it will tell you where the programme location and executable filename is. If you use the “run” command you should just be able to type in that name and if the programme doesn’t run still – you know the problem isn’t with the shortcut.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Cathyanne:
Unfortunately, that did not work for me.
In other words, I got the same results; the shortcut shows up on the desktop, but nothing happens when I highlight it and press enter on it.
If you or any others have more suggestions, I’ll give them a try.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
You are creating a shortcut to a shortcut.
Follow your steps through number 3.
Copy the shortcut, CTRL-C.
Focus on the Desktop, WINDOWS KEY-D.
Paste the shortcut, CTRL-V.
That should fix your issue.
CathyAnne
--- CathyAnne Murtha Access Technology Institute (520) 955-6611
CathyAnne Murtha CEO Access Technology Institute, LLC Phone: (520) 955-6611
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:28 PM -0700, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> wrote:
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