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Re: JAWS and Malwarebytes

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

I did reboot the computer after the installation, although that was
not a requirement. But it still didn't work. I don't know any other
thing I can do.

On 11/27/17, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
did you try rebooting the computer? I have occasionally experienced when
a program will not start, rebooting the computer often fixes the
problem. if MB still doesn't work, what else have you tried?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Ibrahim Ajayi [mailto:kobisko@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Nov 27, 2017 8:40 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Malwarebytes

Hello:
Does anyone use malwarebytes. I've just installed it on my computer,
and it is not working. Each time I attempt to use it, it does not
open.
I use JAWS16, and I use windows 7-32bit.
If anyone uses it, how do you use it. I launched it from the start
menu, and also from the all programs submenu, but as I said it didn't
open.
Please help if you can.
From Ibrahim.



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Re: JAWS and Malwarebytes

Mario
 

did you try rebooting the computer? I have occasionally experienced when
a program will not start, rebooting the computer often fixes the
problem. if MB still doesn't work, what else have you tried?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ibrahim Ajayi [mailto:kobisko@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Nov 27, 2017 8:40 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Malwarebytes

Hello:
Does anyone use malwarebytes. I've just installed it on my computer,
and it is not working. Each time I attempt to use it, it does not
open.
I use JAWS16, and I use windows 7-32bit.
If anyone uses it, how do you use it. I launched it from the start
menu, and also from the all programs submenu, but as I said it didn't
open.
Please help if you can.
From Ibrahim.



.


Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Jonas Voll
 

So in stepp 2. Use the PE Builder to create a standalone copy of IFW on a separate drive. It can even be on a USB drive as it's quite small.

Is this to create the software program you will need to restore your backup?

I will assume it’s a small program from “Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com” that you need to restore from your backups?

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

 

Short version:

 

Assuming the software was installed, first be sure to check the "accessible checkboxes" option in Settings. Then:

 

1. Make a full image backup of the drive in question.

 

2. Use the PE Builder to create a standalone copy of IFW on a separate drive. It can even be on a USB drive as it's quite small.

 

3. Go to http://www.opopanax.net/download and obtain the Windows pre-installation environment creator for your operating system, Windows 7 or 10, 32- or 64-bit, as you'll need this to restore a boot drive. Run the creator and make one, either on a USB thumb drive or DVD. Your system will need to be able to boot from the chosen medium.

 

When you need to restore:

1. If you're restoring the boot drive, boot the PE you created in Step 2, then run the standalone copy of IFW you created in Step 3. Otherwise, run the installed copy.

2. Choose the restore function, automatic restore. Follow the prompts.

On 11/27/2017 9:06 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

Can you give us some exampels of how one can use this software to restor a harddrive that’s is the main boot harddrive from a backup job?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

 

On 11/25/2017 4:22 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can be used by Jaws or Nvda.

 

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out sighted assistance.

 

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 
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Re: JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

Mario
 

Moiz, please let us know what the tech did to fix the problem.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins [mailto:alan1057@me.com]
Sent: Monday, Nov 27, 2017 7:34 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

I would suggest contacting VFO via email or phone

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of moiz
tundawala
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

Dear All,
JAWS 18 becomes slow and sluggish on my Windows 10 laptop after every
few minutes. I get it back to working normally by unloading and
reloading the application. Strangely enough, I have also noticed that
JAWS starts working fine even after I open and close Kurzweil. But this
lasts only a few minutes and the problem returns, until I repeat the
cycle all over again.
I have tried doing a clean installation of JAWS and have also got my
computer formatted. But nothing seems to be helping. What may be wrong here?
Thanks,
Moiz.







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Re: TB question

Mario
 

Elaine, Carol is correct but to clarify a bit, if you want to cc someone,
get back to the email address to whom you wish to send your email to,
press enter and type their email address,
do not press enter but shift+tab and down arrow to cc,
press tab twice and provide a brief subject, etc.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Sunday, Nov 26, 2017 9:23 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: TB question

Hi,

To place a name in a cc or bcc field, you need to first be on the to
pulldown combo box.
Down arrow to cc or bcc and then tab once
This places you in a new edit box for the new address

On 11/26/2017 7:40 PM, Elaine Young wrote:
Hi,

I use Thunderbird and have one problem.  I can't seem to figure out
how to put an address in the "cc" and  "bc" field. I can get to the
fields but can't seem to get TB to allow me to put in a name to do an
auto email address. I've tried hitting enter and tab but can't seem to
get to the right place. Can someone help me? I am using JAWS 18 and TB
52.4.0.  Other than this issue, I am doing great with TB and highly
recommend it!


-Elaine





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Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Steve Matzura
 

Short version:


Assuming the software was installed, first be sure to check the "accessible checkboxes" option in Settings. Then:


1. Make a full image backup of the drive in question.


2. Use the PE Builder to create a standalone copy of IFW on a separate drive. It can even be on a USB drive as it's quite small.


3. Go to http://www.opopanax.net/download and obtain the Windows pre-installation environment creator for your operating system, Windows 7 or 10, 32- or 64-bit, as you'll need this to restore a boot drive. Run the creator and make one, either on a USB thumb drive or DVD. Your system will need to be able to boot from the chosen medium.


When you need to restore:

1. If you're restoring the boot drive, boot the PE you created in Step 2, then run the standalone copy of IFW you created in Step 3. Otherwise, run the installed copy.

2. Choose the restore function, automatic restore. Follow the prompts.

On 11/27/2017 9:06 AM, Jonas Voll wrote:

Can you give us some exampels of how one can use this software to restor a harddrive that’s is the main boot harddrive from a backup job?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

 

On 11/25/2017 4:22 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can be used by Jaws or Nvda.

 

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out sighted assistance.

 

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 
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Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Jonas Voll
 

Can you give us some exampels of how one can use this software to restor a harddrive that’s is the main boot harddrive from a backup job?

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

 

 

On 11/25/2017 4:22 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can be used by Jaws or Nvda.

 

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out sighted assistance.

 

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

 
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Re: Jaws & jpg files

Jonas Voll
 

Some of you may want to try Bull zip. It will print out a PDF file of anything you want!
And Windows 10 has a print to PDF that works good!


Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & jpg files

Thank you for this info, this is good to know. Some times I take a screen shot of a on line bank transaction and paste it into wordpad. Of course I can't read it, but it was a record someone with sight could see. Again, Thanks.
On 11/24/2017 5:50 PM, Feliciano G wrote:
Brice,
Once I took the screenshot, it was copied to the clipboard. I then
opened Microsoft paint and pasted it there. Save as, Typed a file name
for it and changed the file type to JPG.

Feliciano

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & jpg files

Feliciano , once you took the screen shot, it's copied to the
clipboard. Am I correct so far? if so, what program did you paste it
into so it could be save as a JPEg
file? Thank You.

On 11/24/2017 4:59 PM, Feliciano G wrote:
Al,

I just tested this for you. I took a screenshot and saved it as
a.JPEg and saved it on my desktop.

I then located it and hit the application key then activated
recognize with JAWS. Then it brought up a window with the OCR
results. Not sure why it is not working for you as I had no problems.
I suggest you do a jaws repair.

Feliciano

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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Alan Robbins
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2017 4:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Jaws & jpg files

Hello,

Just tried the new feature where jaws is supposed to read jpg files?
I used to do this with open book but just tried with latest version
of JAWS 2018 to no avail. Here is what I did.

Went to a jpg file (picture of a receipt) and when cursor had focus
on the file I hit application key and selected “recognize with jaws.
It doesn’t seem to do anything. Is there something else I need to do?
I remember in the beta testing with first version I could not get
this to work and reported it to VFO. Have not tried since but still
does not work. Am I needing to do another step? Are others able to
complete this ok

Al









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Re: Disk imaging accessibil software

Steve Matzura
 

Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite - http://www.terabyteunlimited.com



On 11/25/2017 4:22 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can be used by Jaws or Nvda.

 

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out sighted assistance.

 

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Have a good day.

 

 



Trouble with entering addresses in outlook 2016

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Hello, I started having this problem probably a month or maybe two months ago. I actually don’t use Outlook all that often, as usually are use my phone. However, when I am in Outlook and try to enter an email address, The program takes the first letter I typed in and picks up the very first email address that matches and insert it, even before I can type a second letter. Then it takes the second letter and vines that email address and inserts that. Needless to say, this does not work at all for me getting the correct address into my address line. I don’t know why it has changed, or why it is so difficult to type in an address that I want. I don’t want to have to go to my address book every time I want to put in addresses, as I don’t actually keep my address book in outlook, so it is kind of a pain to get to. Does anyone have a fix for this? I just wanted to let me type in the whole word before it decides which address to choose.

Thanks, Bonnie


JAWS and Malwarebytes

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hello:
Does anyone use malwarebytes. I've just installed it on my computer,
and it is not working. Each time I attempt to use it, it does not
open.
I use JAWS16, and I use windows 7-32bit.
If anyone uses it, how do you use it. I launched it from the start
menu, and also from the all programs submenu, but as I said it didn't
open.
Please help if you can.
From Ibrahim.


Re: JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

Alan Robbins
 

I would suggest contacting VFO via email or phone

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of moiz tundawala
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

Dear All,
JAWS 18 becomes slow and sluggish on my Windows 10 laptop after every few minutes. I get it back to working normally by unloading and reloading the application. Strangely enough, I have also noticed that JAWS starts working fine even after I open and close Kurzweil. But this lasts only a few minutes and the problem returns, until I repeat the cycle all over again.
I have tried doing a clean installation of JAWS and have also got my computer formatted. But nothing seems to be helping. What may be wrong here?
Thanks,
Moiz.


Re: TB question

Carol Smith
 

Sorry, I do not have Outlook on my PC. I am certain that there are others that can give you that information. Take care.

Carol

On 11/27/2017 4:36 AM, James Malone wrote:
Hi Carol, how do you do this within outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: TB question

Hi,

To place a name in a cc or bcc field, you need to first be on the to pulldown combo box.
Down arrow to cc or bcc and then tab once This places you in a new edit box for the new address

On 11/26/2017 7:40 PM, Elaine Young wrote:
Hi,

I use Thunderbird and have one problem. I can't seem to figure out
how to put an address in the "cc" and "bc" field. I can get to the
fields but can't seem to get TB to allow me to put in a name to do an
auto email address. I've tried hitting enter and tab but can't seem to
get to the right place. Can someone help me? I am using JAWS 18 and TB
52.4.0. Other than this issue, I am doing great with TB and highly
recommend it!


-Elaine






Re: TB question

James Malone
 

Hi Carol, how do you do this within outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: TB question

Hi,

To place a name in a cc or bcc field, you need to first be on the to pulldown combo box.
Down arrow to cc or bcc and then tab once This places you in a new edit box for the new address

On 11/26/2017 7:40 PM, Elaine Young wrote:
Hi,

I use Thunderbird and have one problem. I can't seem to figure out
how to put an address in the "cc" and "bc" field. I can get to the
fields but can't seem to get TB to allow me to put in a name to do an
auto email address. I've tried hitting enter and tab but can't seem to
get to the right place. Can someone help me? I am using JAWS 18 and TB
52.4.0. Other than this issue, I am doing great with TB and highly
recommend it!


-Elaine


JAWS 18 slow and sluggish on Windows 10

moiz tundawala
 

Dear All,
JAWS 18 becomes slow and sluggish on my Windows 10 laptop after every
few minutes. I get it back to working normally by unloading and
reloading the application. Strangely enough, I have also noticed that
JAWS starts working fine even after I open and close Kurzweil. But
this lasts only a few minutes and the problem returns, until I repeat
the cycle all over again.
I have tried doing a clean installation of JAWS and have also got my
computer formatted. But nothing seems to be helping. What may be wrong
here?
Thanks,
Moiz.


Disk imaging accessibil software

Nino Dagostino
 

Hi:

 

This is Nino, does anybody know of backup and restore that can be used by Jaws or Nvda.

 

I can backup the computer I just cant restore it with out sighted assistance.

 

I have a dell xps8900 desktop computer running windows10.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Have a good day.

 

 


Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Sieghard,

Well, I purchased the individual subscription. I'm also using OneDrive for backup and storage now.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Les,

There are two subscriptions, one is for just 1 person and 1, the "Home" is for up to 5 users where each person can download Office and each person gets 1 Tb of OneDrive storage. The difference is small, but I believe it is $59.95 for the individual and $69.95 for the Home.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

When I purchased my subscription to Office 365, it was $69.95 for the first year, $59.95 after that. Perhaps that has changed and it's $59.95 for the first year. That would be a good thing. Definitely worth purchasing, as you get updates as they come out, and with the way Windows is being updated, that's the best way to go now, in my opinion.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Carol,

Two things: the Windows Pro upgrade was unnecessary, makes not much sense unless you need to connect to domains. Second, I hope you got Office 365 which is the subscription based service. If you need it just for yourself it is I think $59.95 in the States and you just pay this every year and in turn you are always entitled to the latest Office downloads and as a bonus you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and 60 minutes of Skype calling to regular phone lines a month. The Skype calling may not be something you use, but if you bought 1 Tb of cloud storage from Dropbox it would cost you a lot more than the entire Office subscription.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I am getting used to Chrome. It crashes, but I have reached the point of saying it is more my PC than the program.

My new PC is ordered. It will have a 256 g SSD and a 2 t HDD. I have gone overboard and purchased a PC with everything but the kitchen sink, grin. It is a 6 core i-7 series 8 from Dell. There is 16 g ram and I see no reason why I should have a slow machine after this. Since I went this far, I went ahead and upgraded the Office to 2016 and decided to get Windows Pro, even though I might not need it. One never knows...I might decided to set up a network at some point. (One never knows about these things.)

Carol


On 11/26/2017 6:04 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi Carol,

I think you'll find that web pages will load faster, although I'm certain the browser has something to do with that. Google Chrome is my browser of choice now. In my case, the SSD drive is built in, but it was on my other machine with 8 GV of RAM, so perhaps it doesn't matter as much. I was always told that if I had to make a choice between processor speed and memory, go for the extra memory.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Les,

Thank you. I never was much of an Office user. I didn't like all of the extra chatter. You know, the things like themes, styles and some other stuff that I can't tell you what it was, grin. Anyway, I think I shall still install it as it will be needed for other things.

Carol


On 11/26/2017 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Carol, I had a system with 8 GB of RAM, and now have one with 16. I see a major speed increase with loading of Office Programs. It makes my 8 GB system seem almost slow. Good luck.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

I should also add that I am not totally set on getting Pro, and, if I find I need it later, I am sure Microsoft won't mind selling me an upgrade, grin.

Also, I don't think I need 16g ram, but that is what it comes with, so I won't worry about it. My biggest thing is the SSD and I am sure I should be able to tork that out.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

What do you do that requires Windows 10 Pro, just curious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus) a wired keyboard and laser mouse does not come with Office It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a
dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you
shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough
or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If
I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be
the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had
Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something
else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a
new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.
I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred,
a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions.
Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol

















Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

 

Hi Les,

There are two subscriptions, one is for just 1 person and 1, the "Home" is for up to 5 users where each person can download Office and each person gets 1 Tb of OneDrive storage. The difference is small, but I believe it is $59.95 for the individual and $69.95 for the Home.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

When I purchased my subscription to Office 365, it was $69.95 for the first year, $59.95 after that. Perhaps that has changed and it's $59.95 for the first year. That would be a good thing. Definitely worth purchasing, as you get updates as they come out, and with the way Windows is being updated, that's the best way to go now, in my opinion.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Carol,

Two things: the Windows Pro upgrade was unnecessary, makes not much sense unless you need to connect to domains. Second, I hope you got Office 365 which is the subscription based service. If you need it just for yourself it is I think $59.95 in the States and you just pay this every year and in turn you are always entitled to the latest Office downloads and as a bonus you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and 60 minutes of Skype calling to regular phone lines a month. The Skype calling may not be something you use, but if you bought 1 Tb of cloud storage from Dropbox it would cost you a lot more than the entire Office subscription.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I am getting used to Chrome. It crashes, but I have reached the point of saying it is more my PC than the program.

My new PC is ordered. It will have a 256 g SSD and a 2 t HDD. I have gone overboard and purchased a PC with everything but the kitchen sink, grin. It is a 6 core i-7 series 8 from Dell. There is 16 g ram and I see no reason why I should have a slow machine after this. Since I went this far, I went ahead and upgraded the Office to 2016 and decided to get Windows Pro, even though I might not need it. One never knows...I might decided to set up a network at some point. (One never knows about these things.)

Carol


On 11/26/2017 6:04 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi Carol,

I think you'll find that web pages will load faster, although I'm certain the browser has something to do with that. Google Chrome is my browser of choice now. In my case, the SSD drive is built in, but it was on my other machine with 8 GV of RAM, so perhaps it doesn't matter as much. I was always told that if I had to make a choice between processor speed and memory, go for the extra memory.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Les,

Thank you. I never was much of an Office user. I didn't like all of the extra chatter. You know, the things like themes, styles and some other stuff that I can't tell you what it was, grin. Anyway, I think I shall still install it as it will be needed for other things.

Carol


On 11/26/2017 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Carol, I had a system with 8 GB of RAM, and now have one with 16. I see a major speed increase with loading of Office Programs. It makes my 8 GB system seem almost slow. Good luck.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

I should also add that I am not totally set on getting Pro, and, if I find I need it later, I am sure Microsoft won't mind selling me an upgrade, grin.

Also, I don't think I need 16g ram, but that is what it comes with, so I won't worry about it. My biggest thing is the SSD and I am sure I should be able to tork that out.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

What do you do that requires Windows 10 Pro, just curious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus) a wired keyboard and laser mouse does not come with Office It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a
dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you
shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough
or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If
I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be
the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had
Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something
else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a
new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.
I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred,
a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions.
Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol

















Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Feliciano G
 

Carol,
That sounds like a beast of a computer. Congrats on the purchase. What you can take advantage of windows 10 professional right now is the fact that you can customize your windows 10 updates as the home version does not let you customize windows 10 updates. G good choice I’m going with a Dell. I love their computers and customer service.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Carol,

Two things: the Windows Pro upgrade was unnecessary, makes not much sense unless you need to connect to domains. Second, I hope you got Office 365 which is the subscription based service. If you need it just for yourself it is I think $59.95 in the States and you just pay this every year and in turn you are always entitled to the latest Office downloads and as a bonus you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and 60 minutes of Skype calling to regular phone lines a month. The Skype calling may not be something you use, but if you bought 1 Tb of cloud storage from Dropbox it would cost you a lot more than the entire Office subscription.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I am getting used to Chrome. It crashes, but I have reached the point of saying it is more my PC than the program.

My new PC is ordered. It will have a 256 g SSD and a 2 t HDD. I have gone overboard and purchased a PC with everything but the kitchen sink, grin. It is a 6 core i-7 series 8 from Dell. There is 16 g ram and I see no reason why I should have a slow machine after this. Since I went this far, I went ahead and upgraded the Office to 2016 and decided to get Windows Pro, even though I might not need it. One never knows...I might decided to set up a network at some point. (One never knows about these things.)

Carol


On 11/26/2017 6:04 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi Carol,

I think you'll find that web pages will load faster, although I'm certain the browser has something to do with that. Google Chrome is my browser of choice now. In my case, the SSD drive is built in, but it was on my other machine with 8 GV of RAM, so perhaps it doesn't matter as much. I was always told that if I had to make a choice between processor speed and memory, go for the extra memory.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Les,

Thank you. I never was much of an Office user. I didn't like all of the extra chatter. You know, the things like themes, styles and some other stuff that I can't tell you what it was, grin. Anyway, I think I shall still install it as it will be needed for other things.

Carol


On 11/26/2017 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Carol, I had a system with 8 GB of RAM, and now have one with 16. I see a major speed increase with loading of Office Programs. It makes my 8 GB system seem almost slow. Good luck.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

I should also add that I am not totally set on getting Pro, and, if I find I need it later, I am sure Microsoft won't mind selling me an upgrade, grin.

Also, I don't think I need 16g ram, but that is what it comes with, so I won't worry about it. My biggest thing is the SSD and I am sure I should be able to tork that out.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

What do you do that requires Windows 10 Pro, just curious?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus) a wired keyboard and laser mouse does not come with Office It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a
dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you
shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough
or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If
I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be
the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had
Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something
else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a
new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.
I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred,
a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions.
Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol






















Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Sieghard,

When I purchased my subscription to Office 365, it was $69.95 for the first year, $59.95 after that. Perhaps that has changed and it's $59.95 for the first year. That would be a good thing. Definitely worth purchasing, as you get updates as they come out, and with the way Windows is being updated, that's the best way to go now, in my opinion.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Carol,

Two things: the Windows Pro upgrade was unnecessary, makes not much sense unless you need to connect to domains. Second, I hope you got Office 365 which is the subscription based service. If you need it just for yourself it is I think $59.95 in the States and you just pay this every year and in turn you are always entitled to the latest Office downloads and as a bonus you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and 60 minutes of Skype calling to regular phone lines a month. The Skype calling may not be something you use, but if you bought 1 Tb of cloud storage from Dropbox it would cost you a lot more than the entire Office subscription.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi,

I am getting used to Chrome. It crashes, but I have reached the point of saying it is more my PC than the program.

My new PC is ordered. It will have a 256 g SSD and a 2 t HDD. I have gone overboard and purchased a PC with everything but the kitchen sink, grin. It is a 6 core i-7 series 8 from Dell. There is 16 g ram and I see no reason why I should have a slow machine after this. Since I went this far, I went ahead and upgraded the Office to 2016 and decided to get Windows Pro, even though I might not need it. One never knows...I might decided to set up a network at some point. (One never knows about these things.)

Carol


On 11/26/2017 6:04 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi Carol,

I think you'll find that web pages will load faster, although I'm certain the browser has something to do with that. Google Chrome is my browser of choice now. In my case, the SSD drive is built in, but it was on my other machine with 8 GV of RAM, so perhaps it doesn't matter as much. I was always told that if I had to make a choice between processor speed and memory, go for the extra memory.

Les

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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Les,

Thank you. I never was much of an Office user. I didn't like all of the extra chatter. You know, the things like themes, styles and some other stuff that I can't tell you what it was, grin. Anyway, I think I shall still install it as it will be needed for other things.

Carol


On 11/26/2017 8:34 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
Carol, I had a system with 8 GB of RAM, and now have one with 16. I see a major speed increase with loading of Office Programs. It makes my 8 GB system seem almost slow. Good luck.

Les

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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:11 AM
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Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

I should also add that I am not totally set on getting Pro, and, if I find I need it later, I am sure Microsoft won't mind selling me an upgrade, grin.

Also, I don't think I need 16g ram, but that is what it comes with, so I won't worry about it. My biggest thing is the SSD and I am sure I should be able to tork that out.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 10:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

What do you do that requires Windows 10 Pro, just curious?

-----Original Message-----
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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

HaHaHaHa!! Yes, I am going to tell. I just finished looking at one and am almost considering it. It is a Dell xsp. Here are some of the specs:

I-7 quad core, 3.2
16 g ram
2 t hard drive (I want an SSD)
Win10 home, I want Pro
1 DVD/CD drive (doesn't say plus or minus) a wired keyboard and laser mouse does not come with Office It has an HDMI port, BlueTooth WiFi, 2 USB2 ports, and the rest of the ports are USB 3, 3-c and 3-1, totaling 12 ports. There is one SD slot which will handle SD, SDHC and SDXC.
Graphic CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

OK, folks, there you have it. Price right now (Black Friday) $999 + $15 shipping and Indiana sales tax. So, that means I also need to buy the SSD and Office. There is no monitor, but I should be able to plug in my old VGA. Thanks to all that made suggestions.

Carol


On 11/25/2017 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Now after all that you won't tell us what you decided to get so a
dozen of us on the list can tell you why you should and why you
shouldn't get that particular PC *smile*


-----Original Message-----
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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 3:25 PM
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Subject: decision made Re: need recommendation for new PC

Thank you. I think I have made my decision. Now, I need to start working on where I will get it.

Carol

On 11/25/2017 2:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I have some 480 Gb SSD's and have quite a bit of stuff on there and I don't notice a major slow-down.

-----Original Message-----
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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 4:45 AM
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Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I have one last question about the SSD. If I start getting lots of files on the SSD, will it slow down in performance? If this is the case, shouldn't I get a smaller SSD and only keep those files that must reside there and place everthing else on a secondary or external drive?
Thank you for your help.

Carol



On 11/24/2017 8:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
With email you typically don't have a choice or at least it's much more difficult to store your Outlook.pst file (if Outlook is what you use) on a different drive than the default used by Outlook.
Other stuff like documents and especially music files and pictures and videos you should have on a different drive. It really depends on how much data you have and how large of an SSD you buy, if you have a 480 Gb or 512 Gb SSD and you only have 100 or 200 Gb of stuff then you might as well have it on the SSD.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

Hi Sieghard,

I think I have received more information today on this subject than I have ever received, grin. I have a lot to think about. One question, is it best to install all programs to the SSD and store their results on a different drive, i.e. load Goldwave from drive c and write results to drive d, or should I write results to drive c also and then move the files to drive d? Should my documents and email , etc be stored on drive c?

Carol


On 11/24/2017 4:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Carol,

Just take a look at what is out there at a good deal. As others have pointed out, 8 Gb of RAM is pretty good, I don't subscribe to Kelly's believe that you need the latest i7 processor, most of my PC's at my store have I5 processors and they do just fine, but if the price difference is not too big then there is no reason to go with an I7.
I think if I had a choice between an I7 PC with a regular hard drive and an I5 option with an SSD for a similar price then I'd choose the I5 with SSD because you do get much better performance from an SSD. Of course if you have tons of data you might want a regular hard drive or you can go with a smaller SSD just for the OS and your applications and use a USB 3 external hard drive for your data.
SSD's are not bad now even the ones around 480 to 512 Gb, but the 240 Gb ones are still cheaper and if you are not worried about lots of data then a smaller SSD will be just fine, even a 120 Gb is 3 times what you need to run just Windows and Office and a few other things.
Earlier this year I purchased a couple of HP Elite Mini PC's, these are not laptops, but just very small PC's. I really like them.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
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Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: need recommendation for new PC

You dont need a super expensive system. You do need the fastest I5 processor you can afford and 8GB of ram. Everything else is optional.
the onboard sound, video and network is fine.
A good SSD is very nice to have. I like Samsung myself.
256GB is fine for your OS and programs. A seperate multi TB HDD is good for music and other things like One drive and dropbox On 11/24/2017 6:00 AM, Carol Smith via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

I must get a new PC. I am looking for suggestions for one that
will meet the best use criteria for speech. Is 8g ram enough
or should I get 12? Should I get both SSD and SETA frives? If
I neeed SSD, how large should it be? Generally, which would be
the best brand? I know this is a personal choice. I have had
Dells for the last two computers and am wondering if something
else would be better. I have Office 2007. Can I use 2007 on a win10 system or Should I get 2016?
My current PC is almost 8 years old and is beginning to do some
wierd stuff, so I thought I had better take care of getting a
new one before this one gives up.

Finally, does anyone use a hybred and what do they think of it.
I know I do not want a notebook, so it must be either a hybred,
a decent laptop or another desktop. Thanks for any suggestions.
Oh yes, I would like to get one on sale today, grin.

Carol