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moderated Re: reading column headers in Excel

 

Jed,

           As it so happens I was very recently working with a client who was using an Excel spreadsheet for contacts in a business setting where he needed to be able not only to check it, but update it.  Of course, when you're the front of office person, you get interrupted a great many times while that sheet is up for either reason and you can forget completely exactly where you were.  He wanted JAWS to re-announce the column name at any point when he transitioned from one column to another and, in this case, to announce "whose row" he was on [as the first column was the contact name] when he transitioned from one row to another.

          If one has things set up to read the "row titles" that's all you hear when you move up or down within a column, changing the row you're on; otherwise you will hear nothing related to the row title if you move from column to column within the row.  If one has things set up to read the column titles you will only have these announced when you move left or right to a different column, not when going up or down within a column.  Of course, if you use both, you'll hear one or the other as you move, depending on exactly which direction you're moving in.

           I wrote what follows as his cheat sheet for Excel.  Shoot to the section that starts with, "You will receive many files where the column title row has not been defined such that JAWS can read it.":

Microsoft Excel

CTRL+Home      Go to Cell A1 (first cell in worksheet)

CTRL+End         Go to last cell in the worksheet.  If you land on something that you don’t expect, it means that there are cells used way outside the usual rows that you use.  To get to the last cell in your  working data area get to the first cell of the first row of your actual data, hit CTRL+Down Arrow to move to the bottom filled in row, then hit CTRL+Right Arrow to shoot to the end of that row.

CTRL+Left Arrow  Go to first cell in row

CTRL+Right Arrow Go to last cell in row

CTRL+Down Arrow Go to last cell in current column

CTRL+Up Arrow  Go to first cell in current column

 

You will receive many files where the column title row has not been defined such that JAWS can read it.  Once you figure out which row contains the column titles, do the following:

1.     INS+V, Bring up JAWS Verbosity Settings

2.     Type the word, column, in the Verbosity Search Box

3.     Arrow down to Column Titles Row Range Set

4.     Hit Spacebar, this should cause JAWS to announce the row number you were sitting on that contains the column titles.  (If this is on the first row JAWS will say one but if it’s the fifth row it will say five.)

If you also want JAWS to announce the rows by the data that you have in the first column, you will want to continue as follows:

1.     Hit Down Arrow to move to the Row Titles for Column Range Set

2.     Hit spacebar and JAWS will announce the column letter that contains the data that will be used to announce the row title.  So you will hear A if it’s column A, B if column B, etc.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

Richard Turner
 

I have used window-Eyes and Jaws at the same time within the last month and it didn't crash. I suspect it depends on what you are doing, what kind of computer, etc.
Sadly though, I decided to finally uninstall Window-Eyes completely and depend on Jaws and NVDA to get things done since there is no chance of Window-Eyes modifications happening again to adjust to some of the changes in Windows 10 and other programs.

That was a very, very, sad day...

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

sometimes it will complete a repair if you do it with jaws not running by
useing narrator or n v d a.
i don't remember if jaws speech will startup when you do a repair when jaws is
not loaded.
i do know the computer will crash if both jaws and window eyes are running at
the same time.
***
or maybe you are logged on as a standard user instead of a administrator.
this can hamper a repair.


-----Original Message-----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

Hi all!

Since I upgraded to windows10 1803 the spring version my key echo is working
really really weird. If I'm in notepad, wordpad, or word the key echo works
fine. However, if I'm surfing the internet doesn't matter which browser,
internet explorer 11, chrome, or firefox the key echo gives gibberish. And
random gibberish. However, if I flip over to notepad, word, it works
correctly.

I asked vfo group they suggested running repair on jaws. so I did.

The repair process starts runs upto 70% and then gives the following error.

jaws the repair has failed
the setup has failed to process the "fsWow64Proxy" component restart the
computer and re-run the setup program

error code:
80070666

Note: I've rebooted and re ran the repair process several times.
Have written vfo support, but anyone got an idea what this means etc?


Cause you all know how long it takes vfo support to get back to a person.

Thanks


p.s.

I'm running windows10 1803 patched upto date Jaws J2018.1805.33.400-enu-x64.exe



The computer has a Realtek hd audio card. Use to work fine in windows10 1709
version. My restore point didn't work so can not roll back.



Thanks for all your suggestions have a good day.



Shan Noyes – GIAC

Technical Analyst – Systems Security

SaskTel

W: 306 777-4830

C: 306 533-1440





Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson


moderated Re: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

netbat66
 

sometimes it will complete a repair if you do it with jaws not running by useing narrator or n v d a.
i don't remember if jaws speech will startup when you do a repair when jaws is not loaded.
i do know the computer will crash if both jaws and window eyes are running at the same time.
***
or maybe you are logged on as a standard user instead of a administrator.
this can hamper a repair.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

Hi all!

Since I upgraded to windows10 1803 the spring version my key echo is working really really weird. If I'm in notepad, wordpad, or word the key echo works fine. However, if I'm surfing the internet doesn't matter which browser, internet explorer 11, chrome, or firefox the key echo gives gibberish. And random gibberish. However, if I flip over to notepad, word, it works correctly.

I asked vfo group they suggested running repair on jaws. so I did.

The repair process starts runs upto 70% and then gives the following error.

jaws the repair has failed
the setup has failed to process the "fsWow64Proxy" component restart the computer and re-run the setup program

error code:
80070666

Note: I've rebooted and re ran the repair process several times.
Have written vfo support, but anyone got an idea what this means etc?


Cause you all know how long it takes vfo support to get back to a person.

Thanks


p.s.

I'm running windows10 1803 patched upto date Jaws J2018.1805.33.400-enu-x64.exe



The computer has a Realtek hd audio card. Use to work fine in windows10 1709 version. My restore point didn't work so can not roll back.



Thanks for all your suggestions have a good day.



Shan Noyes – GIAC

Technical Analyst – Systems Security

SaskTel

W: 306 777-4830

C: 306 533-1440





Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson


moderated Re: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

 

Hi,
Have you tried completely removing and reinstalling JAWS from scratch? Sometimes that should fix this sort of issue where JAWS might not inject part of its code to other programs when needed.
In the meantime, I'll bring this up to a Windows 10 forum in hopes of getting helpful responses from there also.
Cheers,
Jsoeph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

Hi all!

Since I upgraded to windows10 1803 the spring version my key echo is working really really weird. If I'm in notepad, wordpad, or word the key echo works fine. However, if I'm surfing the internet doesn't matter which browser, internet explorer 11, chrome, or firefox the key echo gives gibberish. And random gibberish. However, if I flip over to notepad, word, it works correctly.

I asked vfo group they suggested running repair on jaws. so I did.

The repair process starts runs upto 70% and then gives the following error.

jaws the repair has failed
the setup has failed to process the "fsWow64Proxy" component restart the computer and re-run the setup program

error code:
80070666

Note: I've rebooted and re ran the repair process several times.
Have written vfo support, but anyone got an idea what this means etc?


Cause you all know how long it takes vfo support to get back to a person.

Thanks


p.s.

I'm running windows10 1803 patched upto date Jaws J2018.1805.33.400-enu-x64.exe



The computer has a Realtek hd audio card. Use to work fine in windows10 1709 version. My restore point didn't work so can not roll back.



Thanks for all your suggestions have a good day.



Shan Noyes – GIAC

Technical Analyst – Systems Security

SaskTel

W: 306 777-4830

C: 306 533-1440





Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson


moderated help!! windows10 version 1803 and jaws 2018 problems

Shan Noyes
 

Hi all!
 
Since I upgraded to windows10 1803 the spring version my key echo is working really really weird.  If I'm in notepad, wordpad, or word the key echo works fine.  However, if I'm surfing the internet doesn't matter which browser, internet explorer 11, chrome, or firefox the key echo gives gibberish.  And random gibberish.  However, if I flip over to notepad, word, it works correctly.
 
I asked vfo group they suggested running repair on jaws.  so I did. 
 
The repair process starts runs upto  70% and then gives the following error.
 
jaws the repair has failed
the setup has failed to process the "fsWow64Proxy" component restart the computer and re-run the setup program
 
error code:
80070666
 
Note: I've rebooted and re ran the repair process several times.
Have written vfo support, but anyone got an idea what this means etc?
 
 
Cause you all know how long it takes vfo support to get back to a person.
 
Thanks
 
 
p.s.
 
I'm running windows10 1803 patched upto date Jaws J2018.1805.33.400-enu-x64.exe
 
 
 
The computer has a Realtek hd audio card.  Use to work fine in windows10 1709 version.  My restore point didn't work so can not roll back.
 
 
 
Thanks for all your suggestions have a good day.
 
 
 
Shan Noyes – GIAC
 
Technical Analyst – Systems Security
 
SaskTel
 
W: 306 777-4830
 
C: 306 533-1440
 
 
 
 

Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson


moderated Re: reading column headers in excelle

Ann Byrne
 

If you set a bookmark in Excel to read column and row titles, when you move from column to column or row to row JAWS will speak the titles.

According to insert+h, help for JAWS in Excel, insert+alt+shift+c will read the current column title. this doesn't work on my computer with Excel 2016.

To set the bookmark

1. Open the applications menu.
2. Place the cursor in the first cell of the row or column, or the intersection of the two, that you want recognized.
3. Arrow to "define name" (up a few, or down a lot).
4. Press enter
5. Type in a name that JAWS will recognize: rowtitle, columntitle, or merely title.
6. Press enter.

This information is also available in the JAWS training materials, probably better organized than I am.

At 10:11 AM 5/28/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

Question, i have an excelle spreadsheet here. When i need to get to 1
of the columns, i can get there. When i'm midway down the column, i
would like to read the title of that column. I can't figure out how
to do it other than going back to the top. Any ideas?


moderated Re: reading column headers in excelle

Mario
 

Jed, Shift+Alt+JAWSKey+C reads the column title, and in case you'll need
it in the future, Shift+Alt+JAWSKey+R reads the row title.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jedbarton@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:11 AM EST
To: main
Subject: reading column headers in excelle

Hey guys,

Question, i have an excelle spreadsheet here. When i need to get to 1
of the columns, i can get there. When i'm midway down the column, i
would like to read the title of that column. I can't figure out how
to do it other than going back to the top. Any ideas?




.


moderated facebook and jaws question

louise peyton
 

Hello:

When I click on a post from my facebook friends to read more or to press a reaction button, I hear the message “content not found.”  Consequently, I can’t read more of the message.  What’s going on?  What to do to change this?  Thanks in advance.

Louise Peyton


moderated Re: Jaws and the new Skype

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Nino. Try one of the following to keep Windows from reducing volume during Skype calls.

 

Windows 10 Automatically Reduces System Volume for Games & PC Calls

 

 

While you are using your PC to place or receive calls or while you are playing games which use PC calls feature, Windows automatically reduces the system volume without even asking you.

 

Actually its a new feature which was introduced in Windows 7 which can be disabled using the following simple steps:

 

1. Open "Sound" applet from Control Panel.

Or right-click on Speaker icon present in system tray and select "Playback devices" or "Recording devices" or "Sounds" option.

 

2. Now go to "Communications" tab and check the option "Do nothing" and Apply it.

 

3. That's it. Now Windows will no longer reduce the system volume.

 

Second option:

 

Press JAWS key plus SPACE BAR, then the letter D as in dog. If JAWS says Ducking other audio, this was not the problem. Repeat the steps,

 

Press JAWS key plus SPACE BAR, then the letter D as in dog.

 

JAWS should say, Do not duck other audio.

 

This is where the setting should stay in order that JAWS does not reduce system volume.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and the new Skype

 

When someone calls me on Skype Jaws volume drops so you cant here jaws.

 

Does anybody knowwhat might causing that.

 

I have another question about Jaws.

 

When you press the Jaws key and the spacebar is there any to bring up help so you can find out some commands?

 

Thank you have a good day.

 

 


moderated reading column headers in excelle

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

Question, i have an excelle spreadsheet here. When i need to get to 1
of the columns, i can get there. When i'm midway down the column, i
would like to read the title of that column. I can't figure out how
to do it other than going back to the top. Any ideas?


moderated Re: Jaws and the new Skype

Steve Matzura
 

The JAWS ducking problem is a Skype setting I'm sure.


Unfortunately, I don't think JAWS knows about the new Skype version 8, aka Skype UWP,but if you get Doug Lee's scripts for Skype UWP from http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp, there's probably a JAWS help screen in there.


On 5/28/2018 9:36 AM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

When someone calls me on Skype Jaws volume drops so you cant here jaws.

 

Does anybody knowwhat might causing that.

 

I have another question about Jaws.

 

When you press the Jaws key and the spacebar is there any to bring up help so you can find out some commands?

 

Thank you have a good day.

 

 



moderated Jaws and the new Skype

Nino Dagostino
 

When someone calls me on Skype Jaws volume drops so you cant here jaws.

 

Does anybody knowwhat might causing that.

 

I have another question about Jaws.

 

When you press the Jaws key and the spacebar is there any to bring up help so you can find out some commands?

 

Thank you have a good day.

 

 


moderated Re: creating email using Outlook/windows10

kevin meyers
 

I just had to unload and reload Jaws2018.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating email using Outlook/windows10

 

The other thing is, how old is your computer?  I got a Mac Book pro in 013, then a refurbished windows computer earlier this year with windows 10 put on it.  The Mac book pro converted to windows runs faster then the refurbished windows computer.  Honestly, you could almost make lunch waiting for JAWS to read out the text at times. Even restarting Jaws did not seem to fix the problem.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: May 27, 2018 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating email using Outlook/windows10

 

Did you try reloading JAWS? Or, making sure it is maximized? Sometimes Jaws just has a brain fart.

Richard

 

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Album from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On May 27, 2018, at 8:23 AM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:

Hello, Yesterday I had no problem creating an email using Outlook2016 and windows10. Today anything I type in the body of the email is not possible for Jaws to read. There are times I arrow up a line and 10-15 seconds later it will read it. Any thoughts of what is causing this problem?


moderated rong list

Nino Dagostino
 

God morning

 

I just realized I posted one of my questions to the jaws group and it should have been sent to the apple group.

 

Sorry about that.

 

Have a good day every one.

 


moderated Re: Controlling your e-mail traffic from Groups.io

Gudrun Brunot
 

Good instructions there, Brian. Read and saved.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Controlling your e-mail traffic from Groups.io

What follows can be downloaded in MS-Word format for saving by clicking on: Controlling_Email_You_Receive_From_Groups.io.docx
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1B941pSg2OCRKGukRg1d5w7nwu8wJLUaK> If you do so you should be presented with a Windows Save dialog so you can put the file wherever you want it on your own machine for future reference.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


If you have never used the groups.io website, you will need to follow the instructions just below to get a password so that you can log in to the site. Otherwise jump straight on to the section, Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription, for the preferences that give you precise control over the messages you’ll receive from groups.io, and in what format, afterward review the section, Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests. Note: the easiest way to log out of the Groups.io web interface is simply to enter https://groups.io/logout <https://groups.io/logout> in the address box of your browser and then navigate to that page. You don’t need to locate the link showing your name, activating it to get the drop down menu, then choosing log out from that menu.



Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website

If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website. To get one:

1. In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page: https://groups.io/login <https://groups.io/login>

2. Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.

3. A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open. Enter your e-mail address in it.

4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.

5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password. This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do. You are, at this stage, actually logged in.









Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription

Adapted for Screen Reader Users by Timothy Wynn



These preferences allow you to get very precise control over what messages you will receive in e-mail from groups.io and the format in which you’ll receive them. You can significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from high-traffic groups while also being able to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.

Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, https://groups.io <https://groups.io/> , you will need to navigate to the "Log In" (two words) link and activate it. Once you've entered your username, which is the e-mail address you've used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, activate the "Log In" button and you will be taken to the "Your Subscriptions" page.

1. If your browser window is not already maximized, do so now (keyboard shortcut is Alt+Space, then X or Windows+Up-arrow).

a. If the page is restored or minimized, then at the top of the page you'll see a button labeled "Toggle navigation", followed by a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io". This version of the interface will not allow you to edit any of the subscription preferences as far as I can tell.
b. If the page is maximized, then the top of the page should have a link with a graphic labeled "groups.io", followed by a link labeled "Your Groups".

2. Use your screen reader's table navigation commands to move to the first table found on this page. The columns should read "Group", "# Members", "Latest Message", and "Delivery". Move to the row for the group for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences, navigate over to the Delivery column, and activate the link found there. This will bring up the Subscription page which contains the advanced email preferences.

You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.

3. Just so you're aware these are on the Subscription page, there is a radio button cluster for the Email Delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
4. Use your screen reader quick navigation command to find and activate the "Advanced Preferences" heading level 3 link.
5. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:

a. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you've chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with "Following Only," "First Message Also." If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
b. Replies. There is a checkbox, "Auto follow replies," which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the "Following Only" feature for message selection.
c. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you're using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.

6. Find the "Save" button and activate it to save these settings.

As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the "Following Only" option combined with the "First message also" checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the "auto follow replies" option was checked.






Groups.io Message Reply and Other Options Sent In Individual Messages and Digests

At the end of each individual message is this collection of links:

1. View/Reply Online followed by the Groups.io message number assigned to that message.

2. Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3. Reply to Sender. This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message you’re currently reading. Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it.

4. Mute this Topic. If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link.

5. New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic. Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address.

6. A number of additional links related to the specific group, which can vary somewhat by group.

7. A fixed collection of links:

a. Change Your Subscription – which will take you to the Groups.io page where you can change your basic subscription options or tweak the advanced options for message delivery that I’ve written about separately.

b. Group Home – which will take you to the Groups.io home page for the group this message originated from.

c. Contact group owner - uses the mailto command to cause a new, blank e-mail message to be created with the group owner address of the group already filled in.

d. Terms of Service

e. Unsubscribe from this Group – which throws you into the Groups.io web interface for unsubscribing from the group where this message originated.

At the end of each digest message is a collection of links:

1. View/Reply Online followed by a count of messages in that topic already.

2. Reply to Group (which you’ll probably never use since a straight e-mail Reply does the same thing)

3. Reply to Sender. This is how to send a private message to the person who sent the message in question to the group. Activating this link will fire up a new message in your e-mail client of choice, including web based ones if you have that set up, and will put the e-mail address of the digest snippet’s sender in the “To:” field and put “Private:” followed by the actual topic’s “Subject” line after it.

4. Mute this Topic. If you wish to stop receiving any further messages related to this topic, whether in the digest or as individual messages if you switch to that mode, activate this link.

5. Top ^, which shoots you back to the top of the e-mail message.

6. New Topic (which you’ll probably never use because it throws you into the web interface for the group to compose a new message for a new topic. Most will do this just by e-mailing the group posting address).








Groups.io Email Delivery & Other Control Commands That Can Be Issued by Sending an Email Message

You can send a blank email to the following email addresses (substituting your group name for GROUPNAME):

GROUPNAME+help@groups.io

To receive an automated help email containing a list of these commands plus additional information

GROUPNAME+subscribe@groups.io

To join a group

GROUPNAME+unsubscribe@groups.io

To unsubscribe from a group

GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io

To contact the owners of a group

GROUPNAME+digest@groups.io

To receive plain digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+fulldigest@groups.io

To receive full featured digests instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+summary@groups.io

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages

GROUPNAME+single@groups.io

To receive individual messages instead of digests or a summary

GROUPNAME+special@groups.io

To only receive special messages

GROUPNAME+nomail@groups.io

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web)





GROUPNAMEs include, but are by no means limited to:

win10 for the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group

jfw for the JAWS for Windows Support Group

nvda for the NVDA Screen Reader Users Group

blindtech for the blind technology discussion group

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Question about typing Spanish on a document

James Malone
 

Okay, We’ll try and send one.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about typing Spanish on a document

 

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 12:42 am, James Malone wrote:

Well none of the shortcuts worked.

Then she's done something "odd."   That's the only way to put it, and one would have to know what it is that's come to be to know how to undo it.

The only way you can change keyboard languages (and/or the entire OS's display language) in Windows is if you have more than one language installed under Windows and the keyboard swapping is done in one of the several ways previously noted.

A screen shot would be helpful for me in terms of trying to figure out what's actually going on here.

 
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     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: malware bytes and registration

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

Thanks for this information.  I’ve had to have sighted assistance with accessing the quarantine.  I used to be able to access this independently.

Melissa

On May 27, 2018, at 7:11 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Ed,
 
Jaws 2018 should work with the latest MWB straight out of the box whether it's with Windows 10 or 7.  It does take some getting used to, and below is a brief tutorial I typed up that might help.
 
Whenever you open MWB you will hear Jaws report various Tabs as you Tab through the interface.  The tabs are Dashboard, Scan, Quarantine, Reports, & Settings  If you press the spacebar on any one of the tabs this selects this tab and now you have to tab many times to get to this tabs options.
 
Let's take the Scan tab for instance.  If you check this tab., and tab several times you will come to its options for this selection.  Scan Type & Scan Schedule are its 2 options.  Press the spacebar on which option, then tab to review your choices for the selected option.  When you are through tabbing through that tabs options you will wratp around to the beginning of the innerface.  Check another tab, and you start all over again tabbing to options for the selected tab.  This is why I said earlier that the latest MWB is accessible, but requires tabbing like hell to review all the Tabs, options, & selections.
 
Your question about selecting Quarantined items is tough to answer because I haven't figured out a reliable & consistent way of doing this, so I use a combination of OCR, Jaws cursor, & Touch cursor gymnastics, or get someone sighted to select them all & remove!  LOL  LOL 
 
Here's an example I'll use on finding the scan options:
Open MWB and tab to, Scan Tab, press the spacebar to check it.
Tab to, Scan Types, and this should be checked, press the spacebar to check it if it isn't.
Tab to, Threat Scan, and this should be checked by default.  When you tab to this , Jaws should report some information about this scan.  Tab 1 time, this the Custom scan option, again Jaws should read some info about selecting this scan.  Tab 1 time, and this is the Hyper scan, and again Jaws should read information about this scan when you tab to it.  If you want to select either the, Custom, or Hyper, scans press the spacebar to select the scan, but the Threat scan, is probably your best choice and only takes a few minutes to run.
Tab 1 more time to the, Start Scan, button and press the spacebar to start.
 
If you ran a scan you would select the Reports tab and tab to the table of scans that you would choose from to review its results.  If you want quarantined items, select the, Quarantine tab....
 
It is really hard to describe this latest version of MWB, and the way I learned was to wear out my tab key, and pay close attention to various buttons, comboboxes, and whatever you will come across by selecting the diferent tabs, then reviewing the options of them.
 
I hope this helps, and I know I probably confused the hell out of you, but the best way to get acclamated with is to spen some time with it, paying close attention to what Jaws reports.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: malware bytes and registration

2nd try replying: I have not been able to get MalwareBytes to speak anything with Jaws since fumbling through installation and initial scan. Fortunately it appears to have eliminated malware that was very pernicious. How do I get the app to speak with Jaws 2018 so that I can perform needed scans?


moderated Re: malware bytes and registration

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Ed,
 
Jaws 2018 should work with the latest MWB straight out of the box whether it's with Windows 10 or 7.  It does take some getting used to, and below is a brief tutorial I typed up that might help.
 
Whenever you open MWB you will hear Jaws report various Tabs as you Tab through the interface.  The tabs are Dashboard, Scan, Quarantine, Reports, & Settings  If you press the spacebar on any one of the tabs this selects this tab and now you have to tab many times to get to this tabs options.
 
Let's take the Scan tab for instance.  If you check this tab., and tab several times you will come to its options for this selection.  Scan Type & Scan Schedule are its 2 options.  Press the spacebar on which option, then tab to review your choices for the selected option.  When you are through tabbing through that tabs options you will wratp around to the beginning of the innerface.  Check another tab, and you start all over again tabbing to options for the selected tab.  This is why I said earlier that the latest MWB is accessible, but requires tabbing like hell to review all the Tabs, options, & selections.
 
Your question about selecting Quarantined items is tough to answer because I haven't figured out a reliable & consistent way of doing this, so I use a combination of OCR, Jaws cursor, & Touch cursor gymnastics, or get someone sighted to select them all & remove!  LOL  LOL 
 
Here's an example I'll use on finding the scan options:
Open MWB and tab to, Scan Tab, press the spacebar to check it.
Tab to, Scan Types, and this should be checked, press the spacebar to check it if it isn't.
Tab to, Threat Scan, and this should be checked by default.  When you tab to this , Jaws should report some information about this scan.  Tab 1 time, this the Custom scan option, again Jaws should read some info about selecting this scan.  Tab 1 time, and this is the Hyper scan, and again Jaws should read information about this scan when you tab to it.  If you want to select either the, Custom, or Hyper, scans press the spacebar to select the scan, but the Threat scan, is probably your best choice and only takes a few minutes to run.
Tab 1 more time to the, Start Scan, button and press the spacebar to start.
 
If you ran a scan you would select the Reports tab and tab to the table of scans that you would choose from to review its results.  If you want quarantined items, select the, Quarantine tab....
 
It is really hard to describe this latest version of MWB, and the way I learned was to wear out my tab key, and pay close attention to various buttons, comboboxes, and whatever you will come across by selecting the diferent tabs, then reviewing the options of them.
 
I hope this helps, and I know I probably confused the hell out of you, but the best way to get acclamated with is to spen some time with it, paying close attention to what Jaws reports.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: malware bytes and registration

2nd try replying: I have not been able to get MalwareBytes to speak anything with Jaws since fumbling through installation and initial scan. Fortunately it appears to have eliminated malware that was very pernicious. How do I get the app to speak with Jaws 2018 so that I can perform needed scans?


moderated Re: malware bytes and registration

Ed Culpepper
 

2nd try replying: I have not been able to get MalwareBytes to speak anything with Jaws since fumbling through installation and initial scan. Fortunately it appears to have eliminated malware that was very pernicious. How do I get the app to speak with Jaws 2018 so that I can perform needed scans?


moderated Re: Question about typing Spanish on a document

Soronel Haetir
 

In word (or wordpad) it's even easier to do accented characters, hit
ctrl+<accent key character> followed by the letter, for example é can
be produced by ctrl+' then e, <accent key character> is one of "'",
'"'. ':', '^', '`', '~', probably some others. And note that not all
accents work with all characters. The list is much larger than what
you get with jaws' jaws+4 though.

On 5/27/18, Shan Noyes <noyes01@sasktel.net> wrote:
Sorry about that got a love voice dictation you have to be careful with it
as well as auto correct you’re right Brian have a good day
On May 26, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

Shan,

Did you, by any chance, use voice dictation on that last
message. It reads "ship in the control key," which I take to mean SHIFT
and the CTRL, but I'm wondering if you actually meant SHIFT+ALT?


WinKey+Spacebar appears to be the default, see:
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-your-keyboard-layout-windows-10
and is the option documented on the keyboard shortcuts page for Windows
10:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts

It also seems that SHIFT+ALT will work, see:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-desktop/windows-10-keyboard-switch-language/f6473ac0-2006-4a51-aabe-124f4f1b3507

You can, of course, change the default, though and you have to
have more than one language defined for the system to allow switching. I
just haven't been able to find SHIFT+CTRL documented as an alternative.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and
many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome,
charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one
little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.
~ Mark Twain
--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com