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Re: Can't create filters

 

David,

           The bulk of the things I've put together have been available on this page of the Win10 for Screen Reader Users Wiki for a long time now.   I'll also cut and paste from the document I keep for myself so that I can snag individual items as needed to post on the groups:
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So, in no particular order, here goes:

 

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          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: jaws17 and google chrome;

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi David,
 
The same thing here.  I tried with Jaws 16, 17, 18, & J2018, and the only
Jaws version that went quiet when pressing enter on, Settings, or pressing
the letter, S, was Jaws 17.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.

----- Original Message -----
From: david
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 4:34 AM
Subject: jaws17 and google chrome;

Good morning all;

one of my client's decided to download and install the google chrome.  he's using jaws 17, and windows 7.

he reports, when he open's google chrome everything is fine, however, he's trying to setup his homepage, thus, when going into the google chrome settings, alt+f=file, then arrow's down to settings, when he presses enter, the jaws goes silent.

has anyone experienced this? if so, is there a solution? perhaps jaws17 doesn't work well with the chrome latest version.

in advance, thanks for the help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


jaws17 and google chrome;

david
 

Good morning all;

one of my client's decided to download and install the google chrome.  he's using jaws 17, and windows 7.

he reports, when he open's google chrome everything is fine, however, he's trying to setup his homepage, thus, when going into the google chrome settings, alt+f=file, then arrow's down to settings, when he presses enter, the jaws goes silent.

has anyone experienced this? if so, is there a solution? perhaps jaws17 doesn't work well with the chrome latest version.

in advance, thanks for the help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 


JAWS and the Microsoft Pro 4

Don Mauck
 

Hi, I’ve a chance to purchase the Microsoft Pro and I just wonder if it’s a good option or could I do a better job. I’m interested in usability, power and stable with JAWS.


Topic of conversations

Don Mauck
 

Hello list–

I want to be sure I’m not asking an off topic question; it regards a laptop scenario using JAWS as I have an opportunity to purchase a Microsoft Surface Pro. Is this a good place for conversation on this?

 


selecting text

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,

 

Using Jaws 2018 and Office 2013 under W10.

 

Is there a way of selecting a block of text in say, notepad  similar to that is in Word?  i.e. InWord, control windows k sets the beginning of the block, insert space m  selects the text between those points.  This does not work in a text editor unfortunately.

 

The only method I know of in a text editor like Notepad is to hold down the shift key while hitting the arrow key to highlight the text being passed over. This is manageable if the block to be selected is fairly small but a pain if the block to be selected is a page or two.

 

Anyone got a solution?

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

 


Re: Can't create filters

David Moore
 

Thank you so very much for these tutorials!

Is there a site where you keep all of your tutorials?

I knew nothing about these!

David Moore

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 11:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can't create filters

 

When using gmail or any IMAP e-mail service that allows you to create server-side rules and folders it is far better to do it there.  That way all the filtering and sorting is done before the message ever even hits the devices on which it will be shown.  If you do the filtering and sorting on one of your devices, even if the folders used are IMAP folders, that sorting will only occur if/when that e-mail client is actively receiving e-mail messages.  I have seen people go on vacation and not be able to figure out why their messages are "no longer sorting into folders like they did," and it was because their e-mail client that's responsible for the filtering and sorting was not running.

I have written several tutorials on setting up filters and labels (which get implemented behind the scenes as IMAP folders) under Gmail:


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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

 


Re: Can't create filters

 

When using gmail or any IMAP e-mail service that allows you to create server-side rules and folders it is far better to do it there.  That way all the filtering and sorting is done before the message ever even hits the devices on which it will be shown.  If you do the filtering and sorting on one of your devices, even if the folders used are IMAP folders, that sorting will only occur if/when that e-mail client is actively receiving e-mail messages.  I have seen people go on vacation and not be able to figure out why their messages are "no longer sorting into folders like they did," and it was because their e-mail client that's responsible for the filtering and sorting was not running.

I have written several tutorials on setting up filters and labels (which get implemented behind the scenes as IMAP folders) under Gmail:

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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Interacting with the scroll bar with JAWS

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I haven’t used it, but can your Mouse echo feature work?


On Jul 13, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Joe DiNero <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Good Evening Everyone

 

Is there a way to interact with the scroll bar with JAWS? I have an agreement page where there is an accept button that only seems to appear if you scroll down using the scroll bar with a mouse. I have tried arrowing down slowly which has worked with these type of pages before but it doesn’t seem to work with this one. Any tips or hints would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

Joe  


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Re: Can't create filters

Gudrun Brunot
 

Michael, I'll try this. Thanks very much.



Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can't create filters

Hi Gudren,

See if the steps below will help:
Original Message
From: Mr. Ed
Here is step by step how to do it the easy way.
How to create a new folder in Outlook 2010 and 2016 by Jim and Ed
Here is how to create a folder and make emails go into a certain folder in
outlook.
This is just the simplest way I have seen to make a folder and cause the
directed emails to go into it.
Using Outlook 2016or 2010 and Jaws.
For example, making a folder for the Jaws users list or making a folder for
the Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group.
1. Be on the email account you wish to add a folder to.
For example: *******outlook.com, the *** standing for your name followed by
the email address.
Highlight that account folder, press the applications key while on it.
2. Go down to: New Folder... press enter.
3. Type in the folder name, press enter.
The new folder is created.
4. Go into the inbox of the account you have added the new folder to.
5. Arrow down and highlight the email you wish to put into this folder.
For example: Jaws users list or the Windows 10 and Jaws list.
6. Press the applications key.
7. Arrow down to Rules sub menu, press the right arrow key one time.
8. Press enter on: Always move messages from***followed by the name of the
group or person for this folder.
9. Arrow up and down through the list of folders in this tree view, find the
new folder, press enter.
10. All the emails for now on that you have selected, either a list, group,
or personal email, from these choices will always go into this new folder.
Remember while in the tree view of folders, right arrow key, expands a
folder account, and left arrow closes the list of folders for that account.
This also works in Outlook 2010.
This is a much easier way of doing rules for the outlook email client.
Good luck...

Steps #2:


Take Care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gudrun Brunot <mailto:brunotgudrun@gmail.com>
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: Can't create filters


Subject says it all: no matter what I do, I can't create filters. I have
Outlook 2010, Jaws 2018, Win7. I have some instructions, but they simply
don't behave according to what I am supposed to encounter. What I'm trying
to do is create filters for all my list mail groups, so I don't drown in
messages every day but can get to them when I am ready to partake of all the
wisdom from my fellow list members instead of when I'm frantically scouring
from a reply from a translation agency who just sent me an assignment and to
whom I'd sent an inquiry about a strange acronym or term.



Any help greatly appreciated.



Gudrun



Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal
instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound
design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting



http://www.gudrunbrunot.com <http://www.gudrunbrunot.com/>



New Email Address: brunotgudrun@gmail.com


Re: Can't create filters

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Gudren,
 
See if the steps below will help:
 Original Message
From: Mr. Ed
Here is step by step how to do it the easy way.
How to create a new folder in Outlook 2010 and 2016 by Jim and Ed
Here is how to create a folder and make emails go into a certain folder in
outlook.
This is just the simplest way I have seen to make a folder and cause the
directed emails to go into it.
Using Outlook 2016or 2010 and Jaws.
For example, making a folder for the Jaws users list or making a folder for
the Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group.
1. Be on the email account you wish to add a folder to.
For example: *******outlook.com, the *** standing for your name followed by
the email address.
Highlight that account folder, press the applications key while on it.
2. Go down to: New Folder... press enter.
3. Type in the folder name, press enter.
The new folder is created.
4. Go into the inbox of the account you have added the new folder to.
5. Arrow down and highlight the email you wish to put into this folder.
For example: Jaws users list or the Windows 10 and Jaws list.
6. Press the applications key.
7. Arrow down to Rules sub menu, press the right arrow key one time.
8. Press enter on: Always move messages from***followed by the name of the
group or person for this folder.
9. Arrow up and down through the list of folders in this tree view, find the
new folder, press enter.
10. All the emails for now on that you have selected, either a list, group,
or personal email, from these choices will always go into this new folder.
Remember while in the tree view of folders, right arrow key, expands a
folder account, and left arrow closes the list of folders for that account.
This also works in Outlook 2010.
This is a much easier way of doing rules for the outlook email client.
Good luck...
 
Steps #2:
 
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: Can't create filters

Subject says it all: no matter what I do, I can’t create filters. I have Outlook 2010, Jaws 2018, Win7. I have some instructions, but they simply don’t behave according to what I am supposed to encounter. What I’m trying to do is create filters for all my list mail groups, so I don’t drown in messages every day but can get to them when I am ready to partake of all the wisdom from my fellow list members instead of when I’m frantically scouring from a reply from a translation agency who just sent me an assignment and to whom I’d sent an inquiry about a strange acronym or term…

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

Gudrun

 

Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting

 

http://www.gudrunbrunot.com

 

New Email Address:  brunotgudrun@...

 


Interacting with the scroll bar with JAWS

Joe DiNero
 

Good Evening Everyone

 

Is there a way to interact with the scroll bar with JAWS? I have an agreement page where there is an accept button that only seems to appear if you scroll down using the scroll bar with a mouse. I have tried arrowing down slowly which has worked with these type of pages before but it doesn’t seem to work with this one. Any tips or hints would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

Joe  


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Re: Can't create filters

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi Christobal: Well, my gmail client is gmail, but I don't know how to creat
filters under that rather than under Outlook.

Gudrun

Please note my new email of brunotgudrun@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can't create filters

I tried doing it from Outlook before, but I found that doing it directly
through Gmail is probably best. Especially if you’re accessing the account
from multiple devices.

That said, I still encounter issues where filtered mailing list emails are
still popping up in my inbox either directly without going to the mailing
list label/folder or showing up in my inbox after I delete them from my
mailing list label/folder. That’s probably a topic for another day though.

All in all though, this does the trick for me.

Don’t know your email provider, but I’m sure they all offer similar function
through their webinterface.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Can't create filters



Subject says it all: no matter what I do, I can’t create filters. I have
Outlook 2010, Jaws 2018, Win7. I have some instructions, but they simply
don’t behave according to what I am supposed to encounter. What I’m trying
to do is create filters for all my list mail groups, so I don’t drown in
messages every day but can get to them when I am ready to partake of all the
wisdom from my fellow list members instead of when I’m frantically scouring
from a reply from a translation agency who just sent me an assignment and to
whom I’d sent an inquiry about a strange acronym or term…



Any help greatly appreciated.



Gudrun



Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal
instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound
design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting



http://www.gudrunbrunot.com <http://www.gudrunbrunot.com/>



New Email Address: brunotgudrun@gmail.com


Re: Can't create filters

Cristóbal
 

I tried doing it from Outlook before, but I found that doing it directly through Gmail is probably best. Especially if you’re accessing the account from multiple devices.

That said, I still encounter issues where filtered mailing list emails are still popping up in my inbox either directly without going to the mailing list label/folder or showing up in my inbox after I delete them from my mailing list label/folder. That’s probably a topic for another day though.

All in all though, this does the trick for me.

Don’t know your email provider, but I’m sure they all offer similar function through their webinterface.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Can't create filters

 

Subject says it all: no matter what I do, I can’t create filters. I have Outlook 2010, Jaws 2018, Win7. I have some instructions, but they simply don’t behave according to what I am supposed to encounter. What I’m trying to do is create filters for all my list mail groups, so I don’t drown in messages every day but can get to them when I am ready to partake of all the wisdom from my fellow list members instead of when I’m frantically scouring from a reply from a translation agency who just sent me an assignment and to whom I’d sent an inquiry about a strange acronym or term…

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

Gudrun

 

Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting

 

http://www.gudrunbrunot.com

 

New Email Address:  brunotgudrun@...

 


Can't create filters

Gudrun Brunot
 

Subject says it all: no matter what I do, I can’t create filters. I have Outlook 2010, Jaws 2018, Win7. I have some instructions, but they simply don’t behave according to what I am supposed to encounter. What I’m trying to do is create filters for all my list mail groups, so I don’t drown in messages every day but can get to them when I am ready to partake of all the wisdom from my fellow list members instead of when I’m frantically scouring from a reply from a translation agency who just sent me an assignment and to whom I’d sent an inquiry about a strange acronym or term…

 

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

Gudrun

 

Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting

 

http://www.gudrunbrunot.com

 

New Email Address:  brunotgudrun@...

 


Re: Open an email in Outlook 2016

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Richard,
You might want to report it to the FO.


On Jul 12, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

I figured it was a JAWS idiosyncrasy. I never had this issue prior to using JAWS.
Richard


"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain




On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

I wish I knew the answer.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Open an email in Outlook 2016

I don't use Outlook with an exchange server.

Kevin Meyers

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Open an email in Outlook 2016

I've had this problem for years and never found a solution. Are you using Outlook with an exchange server?

On 7/12/18, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm using windows 10 and Outlook 2016. Whenever I go into an email my
cursor is not at the top. If it is a string of emails it will be
sitting in one of the lower emails. What causes this to happen and can
it be made to sit at the top?



Kevin Meyers









--
Kimberly











Re: Open an email in Outlook 2016

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I’m not very far into this thread, but did you make sure the screen is maximized?
Sincerely,
Ashley


On Jul 12, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:

Hi,

  Same problem and not sure of solution either.  If I hit up arrow cursor moves to top but why it begins at end or middle, who knows?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Open an email in Outlook 2016

 

Hello,

I’m using windows 10 and Outlook 2016. Whenever I go into an email my cursor is not at the top. If it is a string of emails it will be sitting in one of the lower emails. What causes this to happen and can it be made to sit at the top?

 

Kevin Meyers

 


Re: purchasing computer questions

 

And there are also the mini PC's like Intel NUC, HP EliteDesk etc. These are very small PC's but often with full desktop CPU's, RAM and room for 2 PCI MSATA SSD's. They are about the size of an Apple TV or a bit larger with an external power supply. If you don't need a screen one of them along with a Logitech K780 or similar keyboard make a great portable solution. They don't run on battery, but even the entire package with mini PC, power supply and keyboard is not much heavier and bulkier than a 15 inch laptop so as long as you are going somewhere where you can plug into power these are very neat and not all that expensive.
Having said this, laptops nowadays are also not nearly as expensive any more as they used to be. I sort of fell in love with this Asus Zenbook when I bought a new laptop a year and a half ago and spend $2,000 Canadian on it, but that was th emost expensive computer I bought probably in almost 20 years. It's a beautiful machine, it had virtually no bloatware and it has a 4K touch screen display. I admit I was also curious about using Jaws with the touch screen, but the reality is that I rarely ever touch the screen since usually I have this laptop sitting in my home office plugged in permanently and I use a Logitech K780 keyboard connected via bluetooth. This allows me to use the laptop pretty much anywhere in my 1,10 square foot main level of my house and also downstairs it works fine if I want to use it there. I have a Sonos system with speakers virtually in every room so if I want to sit in the living room or use it in the kitchen I just switch Jaws to this $10 USB audio device I purchased on Amazon and which is connected to one of my Sonos players and I can put the audio anywhere I want or in all rooms at the same time if I so choose.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: purchasing computer questions

Steve,

You get more for the money spent with a desktop computer. You should help your trainee decide if the portability of a laptop is worth the fewer features in the machine for the same money. there is a lot of discussion here on laptop keyboards. If the computer is going to be used a lot in a fixed place, like a home or office, an external 104 key USB keyboard can be purchased. It will have full size keys and be just like a desktop keyboard. the best approach in shopping for a computer is to decide on the processor. I like fast i7 machines with a top line Intel processor. computer makers then configure the machine with RAM and extras based on the processor. People who are willing to spend on a high end processor will also spend more money to get extra memory and bigger hard drives so all of these are scaled to the expectations of the end user.

Microsoft Office can be purchased on a DVD. The cost is lower than that of the subscription service after three years. Also, some technology companies other than Microsoft have de-platformed end users and prevented them from accessing their software because of speech the company found offensive. Software bought on disc and installed will not have this problem.

Kelly

On 7/12/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 07:08 PM, Cristóbal wrote:


Belarc is fully accessible. Neat little program
It's the one and only I suggest if one wants to get a complete
inventory regarding installed software and the license keys related to same.

When it comes to straight system specs I tend to favor Speccy, too,
just because I like how it presents what it presents somewhat better.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill




Re: purchasing computer questions

 

My Asus Zenbook is what I would consider a fairly sleek and high-end model, it was almost $2,000 Canadian when I bought it in November 2016 and it’s all beautifully finished aluminum with a 4K touch screen display, an I7 CPU and all that and it has a numeric pad.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: purchasing computer questions

 

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Don H wrote:

Just got off the phone with Dell and only one model of the 15.6 laptop has a separate number pad.

Absolutely, positively incorrect, period.  I already identified the Inspiron 3000 series, which I can see, has a separate number pad as does the Inspiron 15 5000 series as does the G3 15 gaming series.

But, as Sieghard has stated, there are many other options than Dell that have number pads.  I'm typing from an HP 15" model that has one.  Most 15" laptops have a separate number pad.  I walk past the displays in the local WalMart and Staples with great frequency and I haven't seen one without a number pad in a very long time.  It's only when you get into the high-end "ultra sleek and light" 15-inch models that number pads disappear and, even then, not close to always.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: purchasing computer questions

Christopher Zeigler
 

Hello hit the start button go to control panel and select system and security then select system it will display the information on that screen or you can also press Windows key and the pause key if you have one on your keyboard and that will certainly bring it up in and a Flash.


On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 5:46 PM paul lemm <paul.lemm@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have a HP laptop, its got the separate numpad, but the cursor  and home , end, page up, down etc. are slightly separated too which I really like. Actually  I'm looking at picking up a new laptop since my current one is pretty old, in fact its still running vista, which is showing its age haha. it’s a little off topic , but I'd like to check the specs of my desktop  against   any new laptops I'm looking at since my desktop runs everything  I need really well. Is there an easy way to check my desktop specs? Things like how much ram, what processer, the processer speed etc.?

Thanks in advance for any help

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 12 July 2018 17:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: purchasing computer questions

Why focus on Del alone when there are many other very good laptops out there which have numeric pads.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: purchasing computer questions

Just got off the phone with Dell and only one model of the 15.6 laptop has a separate number pad.  If I remember correctly it is the 5000 series.  Saw several models of the 15.6 laptop at Sams Club and Best buy and none had a number pad.

On 7/11/2018 11:21 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
> I have an HP 15-ba011cy laptop with a 15" screen and it has a number
> pad.  I haven't seen any laptops with 15" or larger screens that don't
> have a number pad in years.
>
> I've just looked at the Dell website under laptops and even the lowest
> end Inspiron 15 3000 devices all have number pads.  If you start
> pushing into the devices that are intentionally "thinnest and
> lightest" in this class you will lose number pads, but why would one
> do that unless "thinnest and lightest" is a really important feature to you?
>
> --
>
> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
>
> /The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
> the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
> moment./
>
>            ~ Dorothy Nevill
>
>