Hi Carol,

 

Typically speaking the default settings of CCleaner shouldn't remove anything that could prove to be vital, but, that doesn't mean the default settings work / are best for everyone.  Navigating the settings is somewhat a pain in the rear, & the use of the Jaws cursor is necessary.  To take a look at the default settings, try the following:

1. Open CCleaner & tab to the Tree View.  These settings are for Windows & Internet Explorer.

Note: BE, EXTRA, CAREFUL, DOING, THE, FOLLOWING!

2. Rout the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, Jaws key + NumPad minus / Jaws cursor key.  Now arrow down, & many of the checkboxes Jaws will not announce unless you press the spacebar, but pay close attention to if Jaws reports checked or unchecked!  If you press the spacebar & Jaws reports, checked, that means that it was unchecked & you just checked it by pressing the spacebar.  So, press the spacebar again to uncheck it, & put the setting back to the default setting.

 

3. Tab 1 time & Jaws will report, Windows, so right arrow to, Applications.  These settings will be for Firefox & other browsers & programs.  Now, shift + tab to put you into the Tree Biew list of settings for these applications / programs.  Navigate these the same way as above, with extreme caution!

 

4. After you are through checking out the Windows & Application settings, tab to, Registry, & press the spacebar.  Jaws won't report anything, but it has been selected.

5. Tab to Tree View Registry Cleaner, & you will navigate this list of settings just like in step#2, with extreme caution!

 

Okay, the above is a quick explanation of how to navigate the settings for just a couple of tools that are available in CCleaner, but if you want to learn more about CCleaner it would be best to read aboutit from their Homepage.

 

https://www.ccleaner.com/

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

Yes, but what about us folks that don't know which things should be removed?  I have had things disappear that I did not know about until I needed them.  I stopped using it because I couldn't figure out what things should stay or go.  Typically, I would not mess with anything having to do with the registry. 

Carol

On 2/6/2018 4:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:

As a support technician you shouldn't assume that all Jaws / computer users are as experienced / savvy as yourself!  They're not asking for help because they find it easy!  Please give them tips on how to use the program as they asked instead of simply telling them it's easy!

Below are some tips:

One thing about CCleaner out of the box, Jaws reads everything as buttons.  To make Jaws read the buttons as checkboxes do the following:

From: Dennis L

Hi, if you want jaws to read the status of the buttons in Tools, Options, & Settings do the following.
1. Find an option you know the status of.
2. Press, Insert + 7, on the number row above the main keyboard.
It will say add configuration file.   The name
should say Ccleaner64 press enter
Then it will say edit button. 
Tab once arrow down to check box. 
Tab to add class button press space bar.   Then to ok. 
NOTE THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TESTED WITH CCleaner!
Dennis   

 

From: Stormin
Once inside C-Cleaner:
A: Tab over to clean if that is your choice. Then  hit the space bar. Then
shift + tab to Analyze, press the spacebar, (you will hear the percentages) and then tab to
clean and what I do is shift tab back once and you will hear the list what
it found.  Press, Control + A, to highlight them all, tab to the Run Cleaner button, press the spacebar, the cleaner will remove everything that was selected, & you're done.
 
B: Doing the same but with the registry. Space bar and then tab to Scan and
percentages you will hear and then Highlight what It finds and tab to fix
enter and tab it will say fix or fix or repair all and ..
I am sure there is a person that can explain it much better than this farmer
up in Maine. Really easy to use the program. Along with using for removing
programs from  your computer if you like!
Geno

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Jonas Voll

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

That app is very easy to use.

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Ccleaner and jaws

 

Don't quote me on this! My friend says it's a very visual thing, because i was hoping the same thing.

 

Val.

 

On 06/02/2018 19:54, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Hi:

 

Does any body know of a good tutorial for using ccleaner with Jaws?

 

Thank you, thank you for the warning about installing Avas.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

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Correct.

Oh Bill  so I guess you had the same problem with jaws not saying in calculator too. So you already had call fs technical support and they did jaws tandem didn’t solved the problem right?? Is this Microsoft problem with calculator not working with jaws?

Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue right??

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions. Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any number to add or subtract ?

Addison

Remember, Val, you can always get a USB keyboard, plug it in, and stay away from the laptop keyboard on your laptop, if that feels more comfortable for you. By the way, on the laptop, it is the fifth key from the left, if the ESCAPE key is the first key on that top row.


Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues

My keys are very close together in this hp. The dell was much better.


Val.


On 07/02/2018 02:05, netbat66 wrote:

thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way
you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your
function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which
should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the
computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way,
you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This
requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI
before the computer boots.



Bill White

thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way
you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your
function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which
should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the
computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way,
you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This
requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI
before the computer boots.



Bill White

thats the fourth key. grin
with my keyboard there is a 1/2 inch space between the f4 and f5 keys.

-----Original Message----- From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws issues



Val, when you are on the desktop, you can close your computer the way you always used to. Press the ALT key and hold it down. Then, if your function keys aren’t being used as media keys, press the F4 key which should be the fifth key from the left, at the top of the keyboard.





Your computer should say,

Shut Down Windows dialog
Select the option that best describes why you want to shut down the computer
What do you want the computer to do? Combo box
Shut down



Then just press ENTER. If your function keys aren’t working this way, you need someone to go into the UEFI and turn off Media Keys. This requires a sighted person who knows how to get into the BIOS or UEFI before the computer boots.



Bill White

Hi David!

Hi all!

First of all, you can do even more in Win10 than you could in Windows 7, but you have to know what to do.

Here is how you navigate the start area in Win10.I suppose when you've been used to something for so long, sometimes you don't like change!  {like me}

I find that as i'm getting older, it's harder to memorize things and keep them in that brain!
You said you had Windows 10 guides, i'm very interested in that.
The thing i'd like to know, is how to close down your computer.

Val.

Press the Windows key, and you are in a search box. Tab once, and you will hear mike. If you enter there, you can ask Cortana a question, just like asking SIRI.

If you tab past the mike, you are in a list. The power button is there, and your account button to open your Microsoft account. Tab again, and you are on your list of apps and programs. Now, you can down arrow through all of your programs. Tab past that, and you are on your app tiles. You can use all arrow keys to go from tile to tile, just like on a phone. Instead of all of that, though, you can just type the program or app you want to bring up in the search edit box.

For example, type:

Notepad in the search edit box, and you will hear Notepad as one of your choices. Just press enter, and Notepad will open. It is that simple to find a program and open it in the search area that is in Windows 7 as well. I have a lot of tutorials on using Windows 10, if you would like them. Windows 10 is different, but you can do everything you did in Windows 7, you just have to do it differently.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I'm afraid you're going to find that things we were able to do with the old windows, we can't do any more.

They seem to go round the houses before you can do an application.

I much prefer windows 7.

Val.

Before the big windows 10 update I could press the windows key and arrow through all of the choices.  I could use the arrow keys to select all programs and other things.  I am unable to do this now.  Does anyone know how to get this resolved?  

Good evening list; Marv here.  First, running jaws 2018 and windows 10 bill 1709.  I am having a problem with web pages not loading in google chrome from time to time.  Jaws just says blank.  If anyone has trouble like this and has found a solution, I would like to hear about it.  I hope this message turns out; trying to use the built in windows mail app.
Marv
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Oh Bill  so I guess you had the same problem with jaws not saying in calculator too. So you already had call fs technical support and they did jaws tandem didn’t solved the problem right?? Is this Microsoft problem with calculator not working with jaws?

Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue right??

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions. Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any number to add or subtract ?

Addison

Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are
already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in
fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update
which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*O.Addison Gethers
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:14 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue
right??

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:44 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions.
Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the
February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *O.Addison Gethers
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:42 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Calculatorproblem Jaws 18

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on
desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press
enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb
lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press
the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any
number to add or subtract ?

Addison

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Calling Technical support for JAWS won’t matter much, as they are already aware of this issue, and it should be fixed in JAWS 2018 in fifteen days or so. If you want to ask them about a JAWS 18 update which fixes your issue, you might call them with that issue.

Bill so therefore I need to call fs technical support about this issue right??

This is a known issue with JAWS 18, and JAWS 2018 latest versions. Microsoft has changed the interface. JAWS says they will fix it in the February 2018 update to JAWS 2018.

Hi All  I’m using jaws 18 on destop with window10!! When I went on desktop to press letter c til I hear it’s say calculator press enter,then it’s say calculator standard mode  display  I turn the numb lock on  when I press 5 jaws not saying nothing at all when I press the any number . What do I need to do get jaws to say when I press any number to add or subtract ?

Addison

Hi Richard,

 

You can reset Ctrl + PageUp and Ctrl + PageDown to moving by page after doing a find by doing Ctrl + G, Enter. That should take you to the next page and after than you should find the other keystrokes are back to their defaults. Works for me, anyway!

 

Steve

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 01 February 2018 13:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdn in word2016

 

I believe I reported it to both Microsoft and FreedomScientific, but it has been around a long time.

So, you either have to restart word after a search, or settle for using page-up and page-down by themselves to move one screen at a time.

Not great choices.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 5:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdn in word2016

 

Does jaws know about this bug?

So if I hear you right,

I must restart word each and every time after I do a search on a document?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdn in word2016

 

The previous and next occurrence refers to your last find command.

I believe this is a Word issue.

If I start fresh with a session using Word 2016, control-page up and down behave correctly.

If I then search for a word, from that point on, they attempt to repeat the search, which is not helpful.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 4:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ctrl-pgup and ctrl-pgdn in word2016

 

Hi guys:

 

Got win10 msword2016 and jaws2018… (newest one);

 

My question is:

Whilst in word,

When I do a control page up or control page down,

Instead of moving forwards and backwards through pages of a document,

It says something like “previous and next occurrence” and puts me in some dialogue box?

 

Is jaws doing this?

 

Please advise further.

 

Mike m.

 

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