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Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Mario
 

you will know when you have reached the last listing is when you press u
to go to the next unvisited link and JAWS announces "link 1", which
indicates there are additional listings on the next page. this assumes
that the number of all listings exceeds the number of displayed listings
per page.

I don't think FS would consider changing the parameter for the u quick
key to suit your need, and I don't think a user can creat their own, but
it would be neat if it were possible. you could use the apostrophe key
which is not used at the moment.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 20, 2017 12:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Mario and others,

Let me provide an example of what I am trying to do.

Go to higheredjobs.com and sort by a state, in my case Virginia. It
is easy enough to use <H> to get to the Virginia header, and <U> to
get to the first unvisited position title. My question/challenge is
how can I scroll through the positions and know when I have reached
the last one I visited? A cumbersome method would be to go to the
last visited position and <shift>-<U> to the top of the list.

Has FS considered changing the <U> parameter to jump by link
regardless if it has been visited or not? Or, can the parameter be
"easily" changed by the end user?

Thanks,

Patrick


On 9/19/17, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless
if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as
previously mentioned.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth


-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick



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Re: classic start menu

david
 

Yes; you're looking for;
Classic shell;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCnEhqmfZgc

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ??????
??????
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: classic start menu

   Evening group!

My work with computer is under windows10. Windows7 seems to me better
but windows10 also gets up beter and beter. But the start menu is
terrible managed. The start menu of 7 is better without doubt. So, a
friend of mine said me about a file of microsoft, which returns the
classic start menu but he's forgotten its name. Do somebody knows
something about this? There are of course differnt programs but if such
a file exists, I'd like to use it. Thank you about any suggestions.

Regards

Georgi


Re: classic start menu

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Google windows 10 Classic Shell.

On 9/20/2017 12:30 PM, Георги Ламбов wrote:
Evening group!

My work with computer is under windows10. Windows7 seems to me better but windows10 also gets up beter and beter. But the start menu is terrible managed. The start menu of 7 is better without doubt. So, a friend of mine said me about a file of microsoft, which returns the classic start menu but he's forgotten its name. Do somebody knows something about this? There are of course differnt programs but if such a file exists, I'd like to use it. Thank you about any suggestions.

Regards

Georgi



classic start menu

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

Evening group!

My work with computer is under windows10. Windows7 seems to me better but windows10 also gets up beter and beter. But the start menu is terrible managed. The start menu of 7 is better without doubt. So, a friend of mine said me about a file of microsoft, which returns the classic start menu but he's forgotten its name. Do somebody knows something about this? There are of course differnt programs but if such a file exists, I'd like to use it. Thank you about any suggestions.

Regards

Georgi


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.

On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a
while. I don't recall there being a reason
given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem. Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura







Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

marvin kotler
 

Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a
while. I don't recall there being a reason
given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem. Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura



Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Patrick Johnson
 

Mario and others,

Let me provide an example of what I am trying to do.

Go to higheredjobs.com and sort by a state, in my case Virginia. It
is easy enough to use <H> to get to the Virginia header, and <U> to
get to the first unvisited position title. My question/challenge is
how can I scroll through the positions and know when I have reached
the last one I visited? A cumbersome method would be to go to the
last visited position and <shift>-<U> to the top of the list.

Has FS considered changing the <U> parameter to jump by link
regardless if it has been visited or not? Or, can the parameter be
"easily" changed by the end user?

Thanks,

Patrick

On 9/19/17, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless
if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as
previously mentioned.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth


-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick



.










Re: Jaws and irc clients

Don Moore <donmoore@...>
 

I use Mirc4Life with Windows 10 and JAWS 18, but I have to first press the Applications Key on it and press Enter on “Run as Administrator” in order for the speech component to work properly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and irc clients

 

I don't believe that Mirc4Life is maintained anymore. I use regular mIRC with the JAWS cursor, and periodically review incoming messages.


Re: Blackboard Collaborate accessing whiteboard tools

traci.mwd@...
 


Re: labeling and finding graphics

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Shannon,
 
See if this will give you a shove in the right direction  There are steps for both mmanual labeling & auto labeling:
 
Creating a Graphic Label Manually
To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.
 
Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that you have speak graphics verbosity turned on. Follow these steps to be sure:
 
With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to bring up the Verbosity dialog box.
Press G to move to the Graphics Verbosity item in the list box.
Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All graphics," and then press ENTER.
Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.
 
Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.
Tip: To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.
 
Use the arrow keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic number.  Press the delete key to remove the number then, type the name for your graphic.
Press the TAB key to move to the Braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a Braille display.
Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default file, or both files.  Choose the application file. 
Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.
Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.
 
Using the Auto Graphics Labeler
The Auto Graphics Labeler assigns a text label to all graphics that are associated with ToolTips. A ToolTip is a brief description of a graphic that appears on the screen as you point to the graphic with your mouse.
 
To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G.
 
JAWS will attempt to label all graphics. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished. When JAWS finishes, it will announce the newly labeled graphics.
 
After using the Auto Graphics Labeler, you can use CTRL+INSERT+SHIFT+G to bring up the Select Graphic to Click Dialog box. With this dialog box, you can use your arrow keys to move through the available graphics, and then press the TAB key to move to the OK button and press ENTER to activate the graphic you selected.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 6:42 AM
Subject: labeling and finding graphics

Good morning.

I am trying to label a few graphics and then trying to find them with the mouse.

The mouse will not find any of the graphics that I know are up there.  I tried to use the auto graphics labeler, but it said no graphics labeled.

I found it by using the touch curser and a set of eyes since the touch curser said nothing  when it landed on it but button.  The only thing odd about that is that the touch curser calls this a button. I routed the mouse to the touch curser. I was told that the mouse did go to the graphic and the tool tip popped up with the title of the graphic. I  then used the insert G to label the graphic and that dialog popped up. I saved it to the application file.

Now when I try to do a search for this labeled graphic the mouse curser will not find it.

The touch curser will not use the label I gave it either. It just keeps calling it a button without a label. The PC curser can’t get to this area of the screen.  

I have my graphics setting to  verbosity labeled graphics. The dimensions are the default.

Why will not JAWS read these labeled graphics when they have tool tips? Why won’t the touch curser use the graphic label  I gave it?

The touch curser would be fine , even though the touch curser is very slow to react to a click command but it won’t speak the label.

 

What am I not doing?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Soronel Haetir
 

And you can see (or change) the list of navigation quick keys by going
to the jaws program menu (jaws+j) then utilities -> navigation quick
key manager and choose the set of quick keys you want to look at.

On 9/19/17, Shan Noyes <noyes01@...> wrote:
Hi:

When you are on a web page and in virtual cursor mode various keys do
different things

e.g.
letter u jump to next unvisited link
letter v jump to the next visited link
letter e jump to the next edit box
letter g jump to next graphic
letter c jump to next combo box
letter x ump to next checkbox

there are others.  best approach is go to a web page and switch into
the keyboard help insert plus number 1 from top row of key board and
this way you can experiment and hear what the keys do and nothing will
happen.  remember the insert plus 1 key is a toggle and will turn of
the key board help.

of course if you use the shift key on any of thecommands instead of
moving down the page to the next element, it will move upwards.  and
when you hit the bottom element it jumps to the top of the page.

Have a good day.

Shan Noyes

letter u

Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:53:28 +0000, Mario wrote:

sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link
regardless
if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as
previously mentioned.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know can be used to browse unvisited links, and for visited
links, and for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are and the JAWS equvilent to the WE
--A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the --F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick

.




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Shan Noyes
 

Hi:

 

When you are on a web page and in virtual cursor mode various keys do different things

 

e.g.

letter u jump to next unvisited link

letter v jump to the next visited link

letter e jump to the next edit box

letter g jump to next graphic

letter c jump to next combo box

letter x ump to next checkbox

 

there are others.  best approach is go to a web page and switch into the keyboard help insert plus number 1 from top row of key board and this way you can experiment and hear what the keys do and nothing will happen.  remember the insert plus 1 key is a toggle and will turn of the key board help.

 

of course if you use the shift key on any of thecommands instead of moving down the page to the next element, it will move upwards.  and when you hit the bottom element it jumps to the top of the page.

 

Have a good day.

 

Shan Noyes

 

letter u


Shan Noyes and guide dog Danson




On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:53:28 +0000, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless
if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as
previously mentioned.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth


-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick



.










Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Mario
 

sorry Patrick, I did not find any quick key to move to a link regardless
if it was visited or not. the only way is pressing the insert+f7 as
previously mentioned.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 11:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth


-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick



.


Re: labeling and finding graphics

Mario
 

Shannon, I recall that in order to automatically or manually label
graphics, the default setting (for all applications) for graphic
verbosity needs to be set to all, and that may have changed recently
(since version 10?), but I recall that it depends on the proper
"labeling" of buttons and things from the manufacturer of the software,
which is rare. I also know it is possible to manually label graphics but
I havent done it for a l o n g time. hopefully someone who knows will
let the list know via a post, and address your issue.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 19, 2017 9:42 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: labeling and finding graphics

Good morning.

I am trying to label a few graphics and then trying to find them with the
mouse.

The mouse will not find any of the graphics that I know are up there. I
tried to use the auto graphics labeler, but it said no graphics labeled.

I found it by using the touch curser and a set of eyes since the touch
curser said nothing when it landed on it but button. The only thing odd
about that is that the touch curser calls this a button. I routed the mouse
to the touch curser. I was told that the mouse did go to the graphic and the
tool tip popped up with the title of the graphic. I then used the insert G
to label the graphic and that dialog popped up. I saved it to the
application file.

Now when I try to do a search for this labeled graphic the mouse curser will
not find it.

The touch curser will not use the label I gave it either. It just keeps
calling it a button without a label. The PC curser can't get to this area of
the screen.

I have my graphics setting to verbosity labeled graphics. The dimensions
are the default.

Why will not JAWS read these labeled graphics when they have tool tips? Why
won't the touch curser use the graphic label I gave it?

The touch curser would be fine , even though the touch curser is very slow
to react to a click command but it won't speak the label.



What am I not doing?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Mario
 

in response to your questions:

pressing insert+f7 gives you a listing of all of the links on a page,
whether they were visited or not. pressing enter or tabbing to the
activate button and pressing enter or spacebar on the one selected
activates the link. you can also tab to a move to button and pressing
the enter or spacebar will select the link on the webpage without
activating the link. there might be a quick key to do what you want;
I'll have to see, unless someone finds it first.

if forms mode has been set to manual,
pressing the enter or spacebar on an edit field turns on forms mode and
pressing the escape key or the pc cursor (numpad plus key when numlok is
off) turns off forms mode.

pressing the application key (to the right of the right windows key),
shift+f10 (if you don't have an application key) or pressing the right
mouse click key (numpad star (times/multiply)) will most likely give you
an opportunity to save the link as something, depending on what the link
is for and if the website author permits the downloading of whatever it is.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Patrick Johnson [mailto:patrickjohnson1015@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 8:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick



.


Re: Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

Dave Mitchell
 

Thanks very much Mario.  I will certainly give these a good look as at the moment I can surely use the help.

My plan was to ride with Windows 7 and learn a bit about Windows 10 before 2020 but that plan failed big time.  Mitch

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 7:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

 

I don't know if these are up to date in regard to what update of Windows

10 you have, but you could checkout the following:

 

http://jaws-users.com/text/Windows/10/index.html

 

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

 

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html

 

hth

-------- Original Message --------

From: Dave Mitchell [mailto:mitch@...]

Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 9:48 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

 

Greetings,  Could someone please provide a  link to the full text of a

tutorial for Windows 10 with JAWS

Thanks, Dave Mitchell   

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Patrick Johnson
 

Stan,

Thanks for the JAWS-F7 key reminder. What I am looking for is the
ability while working on a web page to go to an element and see if it
is a link or not, unfortunately I am working on a page where elements
do not have the best ALT tagging.

Thanks,

Patrick

On 9/19/17, Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...> wrote:
In browser tab goes link to link. Also, jaws key plus f7 brings up list of
links.

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick
Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Follow up web browsing question in JAWS 18

Group,

As I continue the transition from Window Eyes to JAWS 18 I have the
following web browsing command questions.

I know <U> can be used to browse unvisited links, and <V> for visited
links, and <F> for web elements. Is there a key stroke to browse by
links regardless if they have been visited or not?

On a related topic, I see <E> is the command to navigate by edit
fields. Are <space bar> and <ESC> the JAWS equvilent to the WE
<CTRL>-<SHIFT>-A for toggling on/off within an edit field?

In WE I could use the <CTRL>-<SHIFT>-F10 command to right click on a
link and get the "save link as" command. What would the JAWS
equvilent be using JAWS 18 and Firefox, on a Windows 10 machine?

Thanks,

Patrick







Re: Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

Mario
 

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Mitchell [mailto:mitch@...]
Sent: Monday, Sep 18, 2017 9:48 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Request for Windows 10 Tutorial for JAWS 18

Greetings, Could someone please provide a link to the full text of a
tutorial for Windows 10 with JAWS
Thanks, Dave Mitchell
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


labeling and finding graphics

Shannon
 

Good morning.

I am trying to label a few graphics and then trying to find them with the mouse.

The mouse will not find any of the graphics that I know are up there.  I tried to use the auto graphics labeler, but it said no graphics labeled.

I found it by using the touch curser and a set of eyes since the touch curser said nothing  when it landed on it but button.  The only thing odd about that is that the touch curser calls this a button. I routed the mouse to the touch curser. I was told that the mouse did go to the graphic and the tool tip popped up with the title of the graphic. I  then used the insert G to label the graphic and that dialog popped up. I saved it to the application file.

Now when I try to do a search for this labeled graphic the mouse curser will not find it.

The touch curser will not use the label I gave it either. It just keeps calling it a button without a label. The PC curser can’t get to this area of the screen.  

I have my graphics setting to  verbosity labeled graphics. The dimensions are the default.

Why will not JAWS read these labeled graphics when they have tool tips? Why won’t the touch curser use the graphic label  I gave it?

The touch curser would be fine , even though the touch curser is very slow to react to a click command but it won’t speak the label.

 

What am I not doing?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Tim Grady
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane
clark
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Hi Tim,

So you're saying that I need to update or install Windows Creator? Is that
the latest version of Windows 10? Will my laptop automatically do this, or
where will I have to go to manually find it to let it do it?

And you're saying that once this is done, with the Kodi screen reader, and
17.4, you've experienced no crashing? And all should work as it did when I
was on 16?
I didn't say anything about windows creator, but I suspect you do need that.
Any crashes I have had happen when I try to use an out-of-date addon.
Thanks, Shane.

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On September 4, 2017 9:57:25 AM "Tim Grady" <timfgrady758@...> wrote:

There won't be any problem as long as he is running windows creator,
kodi reader 1.07 and kodi 17.04.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 5:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

have you tried unloading jaws before you load it? my computer will
crash when i have two screen readers running at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shane clark
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Questions on Kodi 17.4.

Hello everyone,

Would anyone happen to possibly know, if Kodi 17.4 is accessible with
Windows 10 and the screen reader that comes with Kodi? I know it's
accessible with Windows 10, but when I try to install 17.3 and use it
with the Kodi screen reader, every time the screen reader begin
speaking, Kodi crashed. So I was just wondering if anybody may have
already installed the latest version of Kodi, and tried it out?

Thanks, Shane.

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