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Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

For us everything is a temporary solution.
I had to go back to win 7 at my business because the software I need for one of my testers wouldn't run on win 10 after a update... The vender thinks it is a issue with Jaws and windows 10.
Hopefully in the next couple of years things will get better.
But of course something else will break accessibility in a product I use...
Now my home pc decided it isnt a valid win 10 install and is telling me to go to the store to purchase windows 10!
Sorry, Just spent days dealing with these issue's.

On 9/21/2017 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Which is a temporary solution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

this is why i am staying with windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: D
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

I too get that same thing

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to
press
Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10
Windows+and
Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all
kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and
there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there
they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to
press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y
and I to go to my Inbox, then
Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things
Alt+were
supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its
virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to
time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on.
Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura



















Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Tim Ford
 

Hi All,

What are the benefits of using a Dec-TALK Express over the modern options? I have one sitting in a drawer, needing a repair to its power cord socket, so if there is a good reason, I would get that fixed!

I go back to the 1980s, and my share of synthetic speech boards or stand-alone devices, all of which were really bad by today's standards. I thought I had the perfect device when I got a Dectalk. I then got the then-new Audapter, created by Noel Runyun, and it was truly wonderful, fast, responsive, stable.

Fast forward to when JAWS for Windows came out with that excellent built-in Eloquence voice. For a while, the limited processing power and speed of those earlier computers caused me to continue use of the Audapter; it is a stand-alone device like the Dec-Talk, so it helped a lot to take the load off the computer. But at some point, computers and Eloquence became, in my humble opinion, much better than the Dec-Talk or the Audapter. After using just Eloquence with JAWS for several years, I dug out the Audapter, and was shocked by how it was surpassed by the modern technology.

So again, what is the advantage today in using the Dec-Talk?

Sincerely,
Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Hello Shai:

When I added the DEC-TALK Express in Windows 32 BIT, I accepted the only com port, which was com1, and accepted the default settings: 9600, n, 8, 1. I restarted JAWS 14. I looked in the list of synthesizers and did not find it listed there. I then restarted the computer, but, when I checked the list of synthesizers, there is no DEC-TALK Express.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shai" <shaiwol@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions


Hello Dave,
Are you sure that you are using the correct com port for the DecTalk?
Have you attempted to restart JAWS? What occurs when you attempt to
find it in the voice adjustment dialog? I am using the latest version
of JAWS with a DecTalk Express on a Windows10 64bit. I am using it
with a serial to USB cable. I find that this set up works well, but
that once in a while on a web page JAWS will crash and I will need to
restart it.


On 9/21/17, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Hello everyone:

I Have installed Windows 7 Professional 32 BIT on a PC.

I have a DEC-TALK Express external synthesizer which I would like to
use with JAWS Version 14., with a view to using it with the latest
version of JAWS in Windows 10 32 BIT, if the latest Version of JAWS
will support this synthesizer.

I connected the DEC-TALK Express to the on-board serial port. I used
the Synthesizer and Braill Manager in JAWS 14, to add the DEC-Talk
Express Synthesizer. However, when I accessed the Synthesizer
Submenue, under Utilities in JAWS 14, the DEC-TALK Express is not listed.

What do I have to do in order for JAWS 14 to send the speech output
to the DEC-TALK Express and to have the said synthesizer to appear in
the list of added synthesizers?

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber



Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Dave Durber
 

Hello Shai:

When I added the DEC-TALK Express in Windows 32 BIT, I accepted the only com port, which was com1, and accepted the default settings: 9600, n, 8, 1. I restarted JAWS 14. I looked in the list of synthesizers and did not find it listed there. I then restarted the computer, but, when I checked the list of synthesizers, there is no DEC-TALK Express.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shai" <shaiwol@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions


Hello Dave,
Are you sure that you are using the correct com port for the DecTalk?
Have you attempted to restart JAWS? What occurs when you attempt to
find it in the voice adjustment dialog? I am using the latest version
of JAWS with a DecTalk Express on a Windows10 64bit. I am using it
with a serial to USB cable. I find that this set up works well, but
that once in a while on a web page JAWS will crash and I will need to
restart it.


On 9/21/17, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Hello everyone:

I Have installed Windows 7 Professional 32 BIT on a PC.

I have a DEC-TALK Express external synthesizer which I would like to use
with JAWS Version 14., with a view to using it with the latest version of
JAWS in Windows 10 32 BIT, if the latest Version of JAWS will support this
synthesizer.

I connected the DEC-TALK Express to the on-board serial port. I used the
Synthesizer and Braill Manager in JAWS 14, to add the DEC-Talk Express
Synthesizer. However, when I accessed the Synthesizer Submenue, under
Utilities in JAWS 14, the DEC-TALK Express is not listed.

What do I have to do in order for JAWS 14 to send the speech output to the
DEC-TALK Express and to have the said synthesizer to appear in the list of
added synthesizers?

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Peter Donahue
 

Good morning everyone,

That's one of our sgtrengths the ability to solve complex problems. Praise God for it.

Peter Donahue

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Adventure, yes. I don't know about the glorious part.


lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/21/2017 2:17 AM, Angel wrote:
Of course it is more difficult for us blind individuals to do every
day things. But, that isn't new for us blind people. It is more
difficult, because sighted people believe blindness is a tragedy, to
be avoided. Rather than a glorious adventure. Which is experienced by
we who are fortunate to be so. Can you imagine the problem solving
skills we must develop. To accomplish even some simple things? Which
improves our intelligence, and creative abilities? Because they feel
so, they fear blindness, and make all they do visually oriented.
Their world moves so rapidly. Without a thought for us. Or that we
might need to keep up. When we first began selling the idea of
accessible smart phones, we pointed out, and rightly so, the
distinct advantages for sighted smart phone users to use the
accessible screen reader. Built in to their phones. Do they use
these features. I don't mean serie, I mean voice over. They do not.
Why is this, I ask? It is because they would have to face a steep
learning curve. Yet, many of us scale that curve. With less effort.
Than we might have believed. Every day, I am astonished at the number
of hurtles I overcome. I didn't believe I could have performed. I am
constantly amazed at the enormous intelligence demonstrated by blind
people who share the lists to which I belong.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Barnett"
<randy@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer


Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us
everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha!
It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to
press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens
with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to
play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say
zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in,
and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I
have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then
Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new
emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be
easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its
virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to
time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up
on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10
seconds Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay
windows zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10
seconds Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura

















Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

 

Which is a temporary solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

this is why i am staying with windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: D
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

I too get that same thing

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to
press
Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10
Windows+and
Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all
kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and
there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there
they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to
press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y
and I to go to my Inbox, then
Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things
Alt+were
supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its
virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to
time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on.
Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura












Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

this is why i am staying with windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: D
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

I too get that same thing

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us
everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It
is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura












Re: Suddenly MS Lync no longer works with JAWS

Kimber Gardner
 

No, my office is still using lync 2010. I am unable to view anyone's
status or initiate an IM or a screen share or any of the other
functions of lync accomplished from the main window. When someone
sends me an IM, I press windows key + A to receive it. I am then
placed in the conversation window where I can read the name of the
sender and the message. I can type my response and read what I have
typed. But if I attempt to do anything else (even in the conversation
window) jaws simply says "blank."

On 9/21/17, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...> wrote:
Hi Kim,

Are you using LYNC 2013? Sorry, I am not quite clear on what you are unable
to do, since you say you can read and respond to IMs?

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Kimber Gardner
[kimbersinbox1963@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Suddenly MS Lync no longer works with JAWS

Hi All,

I am at a total loss and hope someone may have some helpful advice.

This morning when I signed on to my work laptop, Jaws could no longer
read anything in the Microsoft lync window. When I press jaws key + F
to obtain font information jaws reports no font. The strange thing is
I can receive and respond to IMs that my coworkers send me. I just
can't do anything else in lync.

Everything worked fine yesterday. I'm still running the same versions
of lync and jaws as I was then. As you may imagine my tech support
people have no clue how to even begin to address this issue. So I'm
coming here in hope that someone, somewhere may be able to help.

Any thoughts or things to try will be much appreciated.

Kim

--
Kimberly






--
Kimberly


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Maria Campbell
 

The frustrating part is that one version of a program may be accessible but broken in the next version.  No consistency.


lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/20/2017 9:12 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
That makes sense to me.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura














Re: Suddenly MS Lync no longer works with JAWS

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi Kim,

Are you using LYNC 2013? Sorry, I am not quite clear on what you are unable to do, since you say you can read and respond to IMs?

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Kimber Gardner [kimbersinbox1963@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Suddenly MS Lync no longer works with JAWS

Hi All,

I am at a total loss and hope someone may have some helpful advice.

This morning when I signed on to my work laptop, Jaws could no longer
read anything in the Microsoft lync window. When I press jaws key + F
to obtain font information jaws reports no font. The strange thing is
I can receive and respond to IMs that my coworkers send me. I just
can't do anything else in lync.

Everything worked fine yesterday. I'm still running the same versions
of lync and jaws as I was then. As you may imagine my tech support
people have no clue how to even begin to address this issue. So I'm
coming here in hope that someone, somewhere may be able to help.

Any thoughts or things to try will be much appreciated.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Maria Campbell
 

Adventure, yes.  I don't know about the glorious part.


lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/21/2017 2:17 AM, Angel wrote:
Of course it is more difficult for us blind individuals to do every day things.  But, that isn't new for us blind people.  It is more difficult, because sighted people believe blindness is a tragedy, to be avoided. Rather than a glorious adventure.  Which is experienced by we who are fortunate to be so.  Can you imagine the problem solving skills we must develop.  To accomplish even some simple things?  Which improves our intelligence, and creative abilities?  Because they feel so, they fear blindness, and make all they do visually oriented.  Their world moves so rapidly. Without a thought for us. Or that we might need to keep up.  When we first began selling the idea of accessible smart     phones, we pointed out, and rightly so, the distinct advantages for sighted smart phone users to use the accessible screen reader.  Built in to their phones.  Do they use these features.  I don't mean serie, I mean voice over.  They do not.  Why is this, I ask?  It is because they would have to face a steep learning curve.  Yet, many of us scale that curve.  With less effort.  Than we might have believed.  Every day, I am astonished at the number of hurtles I overcome.  I didn't believe I could have performed.  I am constantly amazed at the enormous intelligence demonstrated by blind people who share the lists to which I belong.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Barnett" <randy@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer


Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us
everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It
is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

  From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here.  I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference.  There are no
menus or anything else related to this.  I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while.  I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”.  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about?  Thanks for any input.

Laura
















Suddenly MS Lync no longer works with JAWS

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi All,

I am at a total loss and hope someone may have some helpful advice.

This morning when I signed on to my work laptop, Jaws could no longer
read anything in the Microsoft lync window. When I press jaws key + F
to obtain font information jaws reports no font. The strange thing is
I can receive and respond to IMs that my coworkers send me. I just
can't do anything else in lync.

Everything worked fine yesterday. I'm still running the same versions
of lync and jaws as I was then. As you may imagine my tech support
people have no clue how to even begin to address this issue. So I'm
coming here in hope that someone, somewhere may be able to help.

Any thoughts or things to try will be much appreciated.

Kim

--
Kimberly


Re: Jaws and irc clients

Walker, Michael E
 

Running as administrator poses security risks. If a hacker gained control of your client (and their are hackers on IRC networks), they could possibly gain control of your entire computer, by exploiting a vulnerability. With Mirc4Life not being maintained, bugs are not being fixed. I would rather either write a script to make the latest mIRC more accessible, or sacrifice some accessibility, and use the JAWS cursor. When using the JAWS cursor, maximize both the document and mIRC windows. CTRL+-, X to maximize the document window, and CTRL+SPACE BAR, X to maximize the main mIRC window. NVDA works pretty well with regular mIRC. You may just want to switch from JAWS to NVDA for IRC activity. Using the latest mIRC means you do not need to run as administrator to chat. If using JAWS, for the most optimal experience, set it not to speak any punctuation for mIRC.


Re: How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Shai
 

Hello Dave,
Are you sure that you are using the correct com port for the DecTalk?
Have you attempted to restart JAWS? What occurs when you attempt to
find it in the voice adjustment dialog? I am using the latest version
of JAWS with a DecTalk Express on a Windows10 64bit. I am using it
with a serial to USB cable. I find that this set up works well, but
that once in a while on a web page JAWS will crash and I will need to
restart it.

On 9/21/17, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Hello everyone:

I Have installed Windows 7 Professional 32 BIT on a PC.

I have a DEC-TALK Express external synthesizer which I would like to use
with JAWS Version 14., with a view to using it with the latest version of
JAWS in Windows 10 32 BIT, if the latest Version of JAWS will support this
synthesizer.

I connected the DEC-TALK Express to the on-board serial port. I used the
Synthesizer and Braill Manager in JAWS 14, to add the DEC-Talk Express
Synthesizer. However, when I accessed the Synthesizer Submenue, under
Utilities in JAWS 14, the DEC-TALK Express is not listed.

What do I have to do in order for JAWS 14 to send the speech output to the
DEC-TALK Express and to have the said synthesizer to appear in the list of
added synthesizers?

Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


How to get Dec-TALK Express to work with JAWS Version 14 and later versions

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:
 
I Have installed Windows 7 Professional 32 BIT on a PC.
 
I have a DEC-TALK Express external synthesizer which I would like to use with JAWS Version 14., with a view to using it with the latest version of JAWS in Windows 10  32 BIT, if the latest Version of JAWS will support this synthesizer.
 
I connected the DEC-TALK Express to the on-board serial port. I used the Synthesizer and Braill Manager in JAWS 14, to add the DEC-Talk Express Synthesizer. However, when I accessed the Synthesizer Submenue, under Utilities in JAWS 14, the DEC-TALK Express is not listed.
 
What do I have to do in order for JAWS 14 to send the speech output to the DEC-TALK Express and to have the said synthesizer to appear in the list of added synthesizers?
 
Thank you in anticipation for any and all suggestions.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 
 


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Angel
 

Of course it is more difficult for us blind individuals to do every day things. But, that isn't new for us blind people. It is more difficult, because sighted people believe blindness is a tragedy, to be avoided. Rather than a glorious adventure. Which is experienced by we who are fortunate to be so. Can you imagine the problem solving skills we must develop. To accomplish even some simple things? Which improves our intelligence, and creative abilities? Because they feel so, they fear blindness, and make all they do visually oriented. Their world moves so rapidly. Without a thought for us. Or that we might need to keep up. When we first began selling the idea of accessible smart phones, we pointed out, and rightly so, the distinct advantages for sighted smart phone users to use the accessible screen reader. Built in to their phones. Do they use these features. I don't mean serie, I mean voice over. They do not. Why is this, I ask? It is because they would have to face a steep learning curve. Yet, many of us scale that curve. With less effort. Than we might have believed. Every day, I am astonished at the number of hurtles I overcome. I didn't believe I could have performed. I am constantly amazed at the enormous intelligence demonstrated by blind people who share the lists to which I belong.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Barnett" <randy@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer


Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us
everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It
is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura












Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That makes sense to me.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura












Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

D
 

I too get that same thing

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us
everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It
is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...
On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura












Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Only if you can see... There are sighted people here that will tell us everything is so much better than it ever was for accessibility. Ha! It is harder and harder to do alot of every day things...

On 9/20/2017 1:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura











Re: classic start menu

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Classic Shell.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of ?????? ??????
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: classic start menu

   Evening group!

My work with computer is under windows10. Windows7 seems to
me better but windows10 also gets up beter and beter. But
the start menu is terrible managed. The start menu of 7 is
better without doubt. So, a friend of mine said me about a
file of microsoft, which returns the classic start menu but
he's forgotten its name. Do somebody knows something about
this? There are of course differnt programs but if such a
file exists, I'd like to use it. Thank you about any
suggestions.

Regards

Georgi


Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I don't hear Overlay, but I just about 99 times out of 100 have to press Windows+D to get to my Desktop. There are so many more burdens with 10 and Outlook than when I had XP and Outlook Express. I have to play all kind of tricks on Outlook. Sometimes my Sent column will say zero, and there is nothing there, so I have to exit, come back in, and there they are. When I come in and a few times during the day I have to press Control+Y and 4 to go to 4carolyna@windstream, then Control+y and I to go to my Inbox, then Alt+Tab to get any new emails. I always thought that the newer things were supposed to be easier, more convenient - not so.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

From what I can tell it has to do with the way windows does its virtual desktop scheme. Narrator will say the same thing from time to time. It is a hidden thing that only screenreaders seem to pick up on. Nothing wrong and nothing to be done about it.
On 9/20/2017 11:46 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Ann, Marv here. I have had this problem for some time; After jaws
says windows overlay windows 0, I just use windows plus m and the
above mentioned disappears with no more interference. There are no
menus or anything else related to this. I hope this helps.


-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange occurrence turning on the computer

the windows 10 list talked about this for a while. I don't recall
there being a reason given, but it didn't seem to indicate a problem.
Just a Windows 10 gremlin.
At 05:51 AM 9/19/2017, you wrote:
Hello,

Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ……

Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20
seconds and then Jaws will say “Jaws home use” and I’m ready to go.

Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows
zero, overlay windows zero”. Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds
Jaws said “Jaws home use” and I was ready to go.

I’ve had this computer for almost four months and this has never
happened. Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this
something to be concerned about? Thanks for any input.

Laura