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moderated Re: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

Michelle's Home Emails
 

hi guys

Many thanks will try that tomorrow.

Best wishes
Michelle

On 10 Aug 2021, at 2:56 am, Randy Meyer <randymeyer@charter.net> wrote:

Yes, chord 1, 2 and 8, followed by dots 1 and 4, gives you insert F3. Chord
1, 5 and 8 followed by dots 1 and4 gives you the same command. As both dot
2 or dot 5 work as the Jaws key or insert on the Braille display.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 5:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

Hi Michelle.

Looks to me that you're not doing the command right. You want to do dots 128
chord all at the same time, then whatever is for F3, either the letter C or
a dropped C, I can't remember. The key to get it to work is you issue all
the special key commands at once.

If this doesn't make sense, let me know.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home
Emails
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

hi there,

Michelle Stevens here,

when in html document the command is insert f3 to get list of html commands.


On the braille display cannot get this to work. I am pressing dot8 spacebar
dot 2 for insert then dot8 spacebar dot 1 function and dots 1 3 for 3.

Is this a problem others have experienced?

Any help much appreciated.
michelle
















moderated Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
 

For some time the Jaws shortcut key has not told me how many words in my document. It tells me where I am in the document, i.e. which line and which page and if I press the shortcut at the end of the document, whether it has any spelling errors, but if I want to know how many words, then I have to press f6 and tab three times.

Alison

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: 10 August 2021 03:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS
Importance: High

 

I contacted JAWS Tech Support today.  Best advice I got was to just use the F-6 key and read through all the info I wanted there instead of using a keystroke I’ve used for the past 21 years.  Oh well.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 7:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Greetings:

 

One option, time-consuming as it is, is to contact Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk, Office Support. I am running Microsoft 365 with the latest JAWS on Windows 10. I am not experiencing the same problem.

 

This one is difficult to troubleshoot from a distance.😊

 

Warmly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 5:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS
Importance: High

 

Yes, the window is maximized.  I’ve tried it with multiple documents, but with the same results.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Is the window maximized?

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Aug 8, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



Hey Mike,

 

So I did what you suggested and it seemed to work momentarily.  I restarted my computer, reopened the document I was working in, and pressed the JAWS key plus page down to read the status line.  It just says “Navigation.”  I checked the status line and made sure the things I wanted read were checked, and they are.  But it won’t read the status line with the keyboard shortcut.  Any suggestions?  For reference, I’m using a Windows 10 Professional 64-bit edition, with MS Office 365 Home and JAWS Professional 2021 with all updates up-to-date and installed.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Hi Loreal,

 

Try the following:


The insert key with the page down (3) key on the number pad can give you the info.  The page number should already be showing on the status bar but you
can add column and line number.  Move focus to the status bar by using function key 6.  Press the application key or Shift + F10 and use down arrow in the menu.  You
should find Column and Line Number and you can press enter key on each of those to check them if you want those items to show on the status bar along with
page number.  Press escape after checking the items you want.  Using the insert with number pad 3 should then read you all three of those items you mentioned.  

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:58 AM

Subject: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

I know I asked some months ago, but I’ve since upgraded everything on my laptop and cannot find this information.  I want to edit what is spoken in the status line when the JAWS key plus Page Down is pressed.  Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 


moderated latest JAWS locking up

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hello Fellow Listerrs,

 

I have been very busy with school and haven’t kept up with the list; however, I have been having a reoccurring problem of JAWS going silent but it is still loaded. I have to turn on narrator and exit out of JAWS and then restart JAWS. I am not sure if thread has been posted before, but if it has please redirect me.

 

Thx,


moderated Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

Curtis Chong
 

With all due respect to Freedom Scientific, that is not a satisfactory response. Press them. Something else is going on. Most of us are not running into this issue. It should be working for you.



Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



I contacted JAWS Tech Support today.  Best advice I got was to just use the F-6 key and read through all the info I wanted there instead of using a keystroke I’ve used for the past 21 years.  Oh well.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 7:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Greetings:

 

One option, time-consuming as it is, is to contact Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk, Office Support. I am running Microsoft 365 with the latest JAWS on Windows 10. I am not experiencing the same problem.

 

This one is difficult to troubleshoot from a distance.😊

 

Warmly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 5:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS
Importance: High

 

Yes, the window is maximized.  I’ve tried it with multiple documents, but with the same results.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Is the window maximized?

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Aug 8, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



Hey Mike,

 

So I did what you suggested and it seemed to work momentarily.  I restarted my computer, reopened the document I was working in, and pressed the JAWS key plus page down to read the status line.  It just says “Navigation.”  I checked the status line and made sure the things I wanted read were checked, and they are.  But it won’t read the status line with the keyboard shortcut.  Any suggestions?  For reference, I’m using a Windows 10 Professional 64-bit edition, with MS Office 365 Home and JAWS Professional 2021 with all updates up-to-date and installed.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Hi Loreal,

 

Try the following:


The insert key with the page down (3) key on the number pad can give you the info.  The page number should already be showing on the status bar but you
can add column and line number.  Move focus to the status bar by using function key 6.  Press the application key or Shift + F10 and use down arrow in the menu.  You
should find Column and Line Number and you can press enter key on each of those to check them if you want those items to show on the status bar along with
page number.  Press escape after checking the items you want.  Using the insert with number pad 3 should then read you all three of those items you mentioned.  

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:58 AM

Subject: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

I know I asked some months ago, but I’ve since upgraded everything on my laptop and cannot find this information.  I want to edit what is spoken in the status line when the JAWS key plus Page Down is pressed.  Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 


moderated Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

Loreal Lavigna
 

I contacted JAWS Tech Support today.  Best advice I got was to just use the F-6 key and read through all the info I wanted there instead of using a keystroke I’ve used for the past 21 years.  Oh well.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 7:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Greetings:

 

One option, time-consuming as it is, is to contact Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk, Office Support. I am running Microsoft 365 with the latest JAWS on Windows 10. I am not experiencing the same problem.

 

This one is difficult to troubleshoot from a distance.😊

 

Warmly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 5:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS
Importance: High

 

Yes, the window is maximized.  I’ve tried it with multiple documents, but with the same results.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Is the window maximized?

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Aug 8, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



Hey Mike,

 

So I did what you suggested and it seemed to work momentarily.  I restarted my computer, reopened the document I was working in, and pressed the JAWS key plus page down to read the status line.  It just says “Navigation.”  I checked the status line and made sure the things I wanted read were checked, and they are.  But it won’t read the status line with the keyboard shortcut.  Any suggestions?  For reference, I’m using a Windows 10 Professional 64-bit edition, with MS Office 365 Home and JAWS Professional 2021 with all updates up-to-date and installed.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Hi Loreal,

 

Try the following:


The insert key with the page down (3) key on the number pad can give you the info.  The page number should already be showing on the status bar but you
can add column and line number.  Move focus to the status bar by using function key 6.  Press the application key or Shift + F10 and use down arrow in the menu.  You
should find Column and Line Number and you can press enter key on each of those to check them if you want those items to show on the status bar along with
page number.  Press escape after checking the items you want.  Using the insert with number pad 3 should then read you all three of those items you mentioned.  

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:58 AM

Subject: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

I know I asked some months ago, but I’ve since upgraded everything on my laptop and cannot find this information.  I want to edit what is spoken in the status line when the JAWS key plus Page Down is pressed.  Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 


moderated Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

Loreal Lavigna
 

Tried that too, yes.  Thanks!

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Hi Loreal,

 

After opening the document, have you tried to switch windows with, Alt + tab, to see if the document might be opening in another window?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:00 PM

Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Yes, the window is maximized.  I’ve tried it with multiple documents, but with the same results.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Is the window maximized?

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 

 

On Aug 8, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Loreal Lavigna <loreallavigna@...> wrote:



Hey Mike,

 

So I did what you suggested and it seemed to work momentarily.  I restarted my computer, reopened the document I was working in, and pressed the JAWS key plus page down to read the status line.  It just says “Navigation.”  I checked the status line and made sure the things I wanted read were checked, and they are.  But it won’t read the status line with the keyboard shortcut.  Any suggestions?  For reference, I’m using a Windows 10 Professional 64-bit edition, with MS Office 365 Home and JAWS Professional 2021 with all updates up-to-date and installed.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

Hi Loreal,

 

Try the following:


The insert key with the page down (3) key on the number pad can give you the info.  The page number should already be showing on the status bar but you
can add column and line number.  Move focus to the status bar by using function key 6.  Press the application key or Shift + F10 and use down arrow in the menu.  You
should find Column and Line Number and you can press enter key on each of those to check them if you want those items to show on the status bar along with
page number.  Press escape after checking the items you want.  Using the insert with number pad 3 should then read you all three of those items you mentioned.  

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:58 AM

Subject: Editing the status line in Word with JAWS

 

I know I asked some months ago, but I’ve since upgraded everything on my laptop and cannot find this information.  I want to edit what is spoken in the status line when the JAWS key plus Page Down is pressed.  Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 


moderated Re: no sounds in my brosers

Bill White
 

Hi, Moti. I understand this, but many sites block sound unless specifically permitted in Site Settings.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: no sounds in my brosers

 

Thanks Bill.

 

I do know about that settings but I need that each video will have sound and not only specific site.

 

Any way, thanks much.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 August, 2021 0:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: no sounds in my brosers

 

Hi, Moti. Did you check to see if there is a mute button by the video? Also, sometimes you need to go into Site Settings, and change the site's sound setting from Automatic to Allow, then add the site to Site Settings.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 2:05 PM
To: Jfw List
Subject: no sounds in my brosers

 

Hi,

 

I USE WIN10 WITH THE LATEST UPDATE.

I use, brave, Google Chrome, Microsoft edge and Firefox.

All are up to date.

For two weeks – I cannot hear any sound when I open any video.

Only Youtube is still working properly but not the other vidios that I open.

I checked the system sound and all is okay in my opinion.

Any help please.

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: no sounds in my brosers

Moty Azrad
 

Thanks Bill.

 

I do know about that settings but I need that each video will have sound and not only specific site.

 

Any way, thanks much.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 August, 2021 0:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: no sounds in my brosers

 

Hi, Moti. Did you check to see if there is a mute button by the video? Also, sometimes you need to go into Site Settings, and change the site's sound setting from Automatic to Allow, then add the site to Site Settings.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 2:05 PM
To: Jfw List
Subject: no sounds in my brosers

 

Hi,

 

I USE WIN10 WITH THE LATEST UPDATE.

I use, brave, Google Chrome, Microsoft edge and Firefox.

All are up to date.

For two weeks – I cannot hear any sound when I open any video.

Only Youtube is still working properly but not the other vidios that I open.

I checked the system sound and all is okay in my opinion.

Any help please.

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: no sounds in my brosers

Bill White
 

Hi, Moti. Did you check to see if there is a mute button by the video? Also, sometimes you need to go into Site Settings, and change the site's sound setting from Automatic to Allow, then add the site to Site Settings.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 2:05 PM
To: Jfw List
Subject: no sounds in my brosers

 

Hi,

 

I USE WIN10 WITH THE LATEST UPDATE.

I use, brave, Google Chrome, Microsoft edge and Firefox.

All are up to date.

For two weeks – I cannot hear any sound when I open any video.

Only Youtube is still working properly but not the other vidios that I open.

I checked the system sound and all is okay in my opinion.

Any help please.

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 


moderated no sounds in my brosers

Moty Azrad
 

Hi,

 

I USE WIN10 WITH THE LATEST UPDATE.

I use, brave, Google Chrome, Microsoft edge and Firefox.

All are up to date.

For two weeks – I cannot hear any sound when I open any video.

Only Youtube is still working properly but not the other vidios that I open.

I checked the system sound and all is okay in my opinion.

Any help please.

 

Moti

 

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and NVDA

JM Casey
 

That’s somewhat true about the number pad, and it is a bit of a nuissance, coming from a JAWS user’s initial perspective.

 

When I think of JAWS and NVDA commands-in-common, certainly the time command is not one that quickly springs to mind, but a lot of other ones, like “say all”, keyboard echo (although this does work differently in nvda as well), all the commands for generating element lists and such (though those work a little differently, too), quick navigation and more.

Not necessarilyt he most helpfult hings to think just of the commands, though, anyway – moreso, think about how they function in the various screen-reader options.

 

 

 

– it does depend

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 9, 2021 03:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and NVDA

 

I would only somewhat agree.

NVDA has only a couple keystrokes like Jaws, like the time command.

Probably what makes folks think they have a lot in common, is that the majority of the keystrokes we use are windows keyboard commands, not Jaws or NVDA.

But although I sometimes use NVDA, I find the screen review lacking, or perhaps I'm lacking in how to use NVDA.

I have asked on the NVDA list where the developers subscribe too, about making NVDA with a Jaws keyboard selection, because if you are used to reviewing a window with Jaws, and try to use NVDA the same way, it will be frustrating.

In NVDA, they say that the keys can be mapped, but this hasn't worked for me.

Jaws is really using the most intuitive keyboard layout.

I think it is not just my opinion, as the keyboards with a number pad also have arrows on the number pad indicating direction of movement, which does not relate to the way NVDA uses the number pad.

But until that changes in NVDA, it will always be only a backup screenreader for me.

Glenn 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2021 1:40 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws and NVDA

 

IN my opinion, no one can say how hard it is to learn anything because they are not you.

 

NVDA has many keystrokes in common with Jaws.

I’d start by browsing through the Commands quick reference:

NVDA 2021.1 Commands Quick Reference

 

When NVDA is running, press insert+n and arrow down to help and right arrow and you can find that list plus the user guide.  Two great places to start.

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and NVDA

 

Hello I have used Jaws for about 20 years how hard is it to learn NVDA and where should I start?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Jaws and NVDA

Glenn / Lenny
 

I would only somewhat agree.
NVDA has only a couple keystrokes like Jaws, like the time command.
Probably what makes folks think they have a lot in common, is that the majority of the keystrokes we use are windows keyboard commands, not Jaws or NVDA.
But although I sometimes use NVDA, I find the screen review lacking, or perhaps I'm lacking in how to use NVDA.
I have asked on the NVDA list where the developers subscribe too, about making NVDA with a Jaws keyboard selection, because if you are used to reviewing a window with Jaws, and try to use NVDA the same way, it will be frustrating.
In NVDA, they say that the keys can be mapped, but this hasn't worked for me.
Jaws is really using the most intuitive keyboard layout.
I think it is not just my opinion, as the keyboards with a number pad also have arrows on the number pad indicating direction of movement, which does not relate to the way NVDA uses the number pad.
But until that changes in NVDA, it will always be only a backup screenreader for me.
Glenn 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2021 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws and NVDA

IN my opinion, no one can say how hard it is to learn anything because they are not you.

 

NVDA has many keystrokes in common with Jaws.

I’d start by browsing through the Commands quick reference:

NVDA 2021.1 Commands Quick Reference

 

When NVDA is running, press insert+n and arrow down to help and right arrow and you can find that list plus the user guide.  Two great places to start.

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and NVDA

 

Hello I have used Jaws for about 20 years how hard is it to learn NVDA and where should I start?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Jaws and NVDA

JM Casey
 

I would start with reading the user guide as suggested.

 

Can’t really tell you how hard it will be for you to learn. I guess it also depends too on how deeply/extensively you want to use it. Lots of people use screen-readers and only really scratch the surface of their features.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: August 9, 2021 02:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and NVDA

 

Hello I have used Jaws for about 20 years how hard is it to learn NVDA and where should I start?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Jaws and NVDA

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

IN my opinion, no one can say how hard it is to learn anything because they are not you.

 

NVDA has many keystrokes in common with Jaws.

I’d start by browsing through the Commands quick reference:

NVDA 2021.1 Commands Quick Reference

 

When NVDA is running, press insert+n and arrow down to help and right arrow and you can find that list plus the user guide.  Two great places to start.

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan McManomy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and NVDA

 

Hello I have used Jaws for about 20 years how hard is it to learn NVDA and where should I start?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Jaws and NVDA

Ryan McManomy
 

Hello I have used Jaws for about 20 years how hard is it to learn NVDA and where should I start?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Skype?

JM Casey
 

I still use skype for voice calls and would definitely take it over Zoom for that purpose. Haven’t used the text window in a while but it certainly works. Not sure if they’ll faze it out or not but it’s still being updated all the time as of now.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: August 8, 2021 06:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype?

 

Greetings:

 

I am seeing announcements which indicate that Skype for personal use is still supported by Microsoft. I do expect that this will not permanently remain the status quo, however. If I had a choice, I would still opt for Zoom, as it is the most accessible to blind users and is free for meetings under an hour in length.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype?

 

I’m not sure if you are aware but earlier this year Microsoft announced that they will be retiring Skype and want kpeople to use Microsoft Teams which is similar to Skype and will be apart of Windows 11 when it is released.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype?

 

Greetings:

 

I am running the latest version of JAWS. Information from JAWS Help is shown here below.

 

According to the information:

 

“When downloading Skype, make sure to choose the link to get Skype for Windows, as this works for all Windows versions. There is also a Skype for Windows 10 which is a universal app as well as a Skype for Business. However, both of these apps do not work as well with JAWS at this time.”

 

________________________________________

 

Skype

This topic provides a brief overview of using JAWS with the Skype for Desktop application version 8.42 and later.

Skype allows you to make and receive audio and video calls as well as exchange instant messages with other users. For detailed information on using Skype and all of its features, visit the Skype website. This site also contains a complete list of hotkeys for Skype. You can also press INSERT+W to view a list of Skype keystrokes.

When downloading Skype, make sure to choose the link to get Skype for Windows, as this works for all Windows versions. There is also a Skype for Windows 10 which is a universal app as well as a Skype for Business. However, both of these apps do not work as well with JAWS at this time.

Answering and Ending a Call

When Skype alerts you to an incoming call, JAWS automatically speaks the caller information if the Skype window is in focus. The notification is also shown on the braille display as a flash message. You can also press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+R to repeat the incoming call notification.

To answer an incoming call, perform the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, Y followed by UP ARROW or A. You can use these keystrokes from any application once Skype alerts you that someone is calling. Alternatively, use the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, Y followed by S to place focus in the Skype window and then press the Skype command CTRL+SHIFT+P or press TAB to move to the Answer or Decline buttons and press ENTER. If your computer has a webcam, you can press the Skype command CTRL+SHIFT+K to answer a call with video when the Skype window is in focus.

To hang up once you are finished with a call, perform the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, Y followed by DOWN ARROW or D. Just like answering a call, you can use these keystrokes from any application. Alternatively, use the layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, Y followed by S to place focus in the Skype window and then press the Skype command CTRL+E.

Instant Messaging

If you are typing messages back and forth with another Skype user, JAWS automatically announces incoming messages as they are received if focus is in the Skype window. Incoming messages are also shown on the braille display as a flash message. To repeat the last background message, press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by SHIFT+R. JAWS also provides additional keystrokes for use in conversations.

To review previous messages in the current conversation, press CTRL+INSERT+Y to move to the chat history list. Alternatively, you can move to the chat history using the layered keystrokes INSERT+SPACEBAR, Q followed by H. Use the UP or DOWN ARROWS to navigate the list of messages.

In an active conversation, press CTRL+INSERT+E to move to the chat entry field so you can begin typing a new message. Alternatively, you can move to the chat entry field using the layered keystrokes INSERT+SPACEBAR, Q followed by E.

To switch to a different conversation, press CTRL+INSERT+N to move to the conversations list. Alternatively, you can move to the conversations list using the layered keystrokes INSERT+SPACEBAR, Q followed by C.

 

 

 

________________________________________

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype?

 

 

On 7/8/21 11:57 pm, Ann Byrne wrote:

> Which version of Skype is most currently useable with JAWS?  My

> overseas family is sending me Skype messages, and I need to be able to

> hear them.

 

To the best of my knowledge, Skype 8 is best supported by recent

versions of JAWS.

 

Note that it is being superseded by Microsoft Teams - including

Microsoft Teams personal. Skype is on the way out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

Randy Meyer
 

Yes, chord 1, 2 and 8, followed by dots 1 and 4, gives you insert F3. Chord
1, 5 and 8 followed by dots 1 and4 gives you the same command. As both dot
2 or dot 5 work as the Jaws key or insert on the Braille display.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 5:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

Hi Michelle.

Looks to me that you're not doing the command right. You want to do dots 128
chord all at the same time, then whatever is for F3, either the letter C or
a dropped C, I can't remember. The key to get it to work is you issue all
the special key commands at once.

If this doesn't make sense, let me know.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michelle's Home
Emails
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: html list commandds not working on focus40 fifth gen.

hi there,

Michelle Stevens here,

when in html document the command is insert f3 to get list of html commands.


On the braille display cannot get this to work. I am pressing dot8 spacebar
dot 2 for insert then dot8 spacebar dot 1 function and dots 1 3 for 3.

Is this a problem others have experienced?

Any help much appreciated.
michelle


moderated Re: signing out of old computers in dropbox

Mike B.
 

Thanks for the reminder.  I haven't done this in quite a long time and apparently totally brain farted on getting a confirmation dialogue.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2021 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: signing out of old computers in dropbox

Each device has an "Unlink" link and after you activate it you have to confirm one more time.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 8:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing out of old computers in dropbox

 

Hi Ann,

 

Using JAWS 2020 and Google Chrome, I do the following:

 

On Dropbox site, after logging in, enter on Account. This expands the account menu.

 

Enter on Settings

 

Enter on Security tab, to select it.

 

There are several other settings before the list of devices. Either scroll past them, or look for the word "devices" on the page.

 

Devices currently linked to Dropbox are listed from the most recently used to the oldest. Each device has an indication of when it was last using Dropbox,
and each device has an "unlink" button.  

 

There shouldn't be anything else to click after you unlink an account, accept for Dropbox making the settings adjustments.  The times I've done this the changes took place pretty much simultaneously.

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 7:14 PM

Subject: signing out of old computers in dropbox

 

Trying to add dropbox to my new computer, I need to unlink computers
that used dropbox in the past.  I can check the check boxes to unlink
the computers, some of which I haven't owned for years, but there is
a final something somewhere to confirm the unchecks, and I can't find
it.  JAWS doesn't read the screen well.  I used the touch cursor to
verify information; but I can't, even with the touch cursor, find the
stinkin' 'sign out of everything you just checked'.

If anybody has won this battle, please tell me how.

Thx





moderated Re: confusing problem

 

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:45 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
And if you want somebody to give you more precise instruction you will have to supply the link for the website.
-
A big, Amen!, to that.

These problems are not best addressed as abstract issues, but by looking directly at the thing (a website, in this case) causing the difficulty.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: confusing problem

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 


And if you want somebody to give you more precise instruction you will have to supply the link for the website.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 11:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: confusing problem

 

Hi, all, today I was on a website for an international church, and when I went to open a link for the latest sermon, jaws said, “read in English, French” and then it was gone. I couldn’t find anything like that on the website to choose English, and I tried alt N to see if that opened up options but that didn’t work. I have a similar problem when I type in my password on a site and it asks if I want to save it but then it’s gone and I can’t figure out the keystroke to bring up that option. Hope this all makes sense. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby

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