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Re: JAWS speaks random characters as I type
Mike B
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Hi Jim,
I wonder if that could be the predictive search
feature that some browsers have?
Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
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From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:03 AM
Subject: JAWS speaks random characters as I type JAWS 2020 (August build) Windows 10 2004 fully patched, but not running 20H2. This problem is mostly seen in Edge (Chromium and up to date), but does occur at times in other applications. JAWS speaks random characters as I type. For example I can type the letter “A” but JAWS will speak another character, not necessarily a letter, it can be a number or symbol. Even if I type the same letter a second or third time JAWS will continue to speak random characters. What is actually being typed is the actual letter I am pressing. This is a fresh install of Windows 10 and besides the drivers from Dell the only other software installed is Office 365. The machine is not cluttered up with dozens of installs nor is the registry cluttered with the bits of uninstalled apps. I need to unload JAWS and reload it to fix the issue. Dell blames Vispero. Vispero blames Microsoft and of course Microsoft blames them both and tells me to purchase a Surface and run Narrator. Also, in Edge if I use the letter “H” to move by headings I will often get error messages saying that I am pressing the incorrect key, or I will get messages like “There are no frames on the page” or “There are no buttons on the page”. The laptop is new (May of this year) and I am fairly new to JAWS, but not computers or screen readers. On a side note I am running Win10 ((build 2004), JAWS 2020 (August release) as a VM on my Mac Book and I don’t have this issue. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has seen this issue. TIA, Jim Weiss jimweiss72@... “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” | Plato
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
And for those that may want the updated and comprehensive step-by-step instructions for
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:44 AM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
The only real downside to creating groups in outlook is that a person in your group has to be a contact. In other words, you cannot just type a bunch of email addresses into the group.- Robin, Actually, the addresses can be added without being in either Contacts or Address book. In the instructions for creating a Contact Group that I referenced earlier, I omitted that option since it's not often used. At Step number three, you actually have three different options, and I only discussed two. All three start with the keyboard sequence ALT+H,M followed by: A - If you wish to add an existing Address Book entry to the group C - If you wish to add an existing Contact to the group E - If you wish to add a random email address that's in neither of the above to the group (New email contact in the submenu). If you do an ALT+H,M,E you are presented with a dialog box containing the following, in order: Display Name edit box email address edit box email type box, defaults to SMTP, almost never changed Custom type button, affiliated with the email type edit box, almost never activated Internet Format dropdown box, which defaults to, Let Outlook decide the best sending format, but which also has the options, Send plain text only, and, Send using Outlook rich text format Checkbox, Add to contacts, which is checked by default The typical OK and Cancel button pair at the bottom Admittedly, you can't enter a long string of comma or semicolon separated "unknown" email addresses this way, but you can add each one by one and decide whether or not you want what you enter added to contacts or not as part of that process. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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JAWS speaks random characters as I type
Jim Weiss
I have been encountering this issue for a while now and I was wondering if anyone else has had this experience.
JAWS 2020 (August build) Windows 10 2004 fully patched, but not running 20H2. This problem is mostly seen in Edge (Chromium and up to date), but does occur at times in other applications. JAWS speaks random characters as I type. For example I can type the letter “A” but JAWS will speak another character, not necessarily a letter, it can be a number or symbol. Even if I type the same letter a second or third time JAWS will continue to speak random characters. What is actually being typed is the actual letter I am pressing. This is a fresh install of Windows 10 and besides the drivers from Dell the only other software installed is Office 365. The machine is not cluttered up with dozens of installs nor is the registry cluttered with the bits of uninstalled apps. I need to unload JAWS and reload it to fix the issue. Dell blames Vispero. Vispero blames Microsoft and of course Microsoft blames them both and tells me to purchase a Surface and run Narrator. Also, in Edge if I use the letter “H” to move by headings I will often get error messages saying that I am pressing the incorrect key, or I will get messages like “There are no frames on the page” or “There are no buttons on the page”. The laptop is new (May of this year) and I am fairly new to JAWS, but not computers or screen readers. On a side note I am running Win10 ((build 2004), JAWS 2020 (August release) as a VM on my Mac Book and I don’t have this issue. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has seen this issue. TIA, Jim Weiss jimweiss72@icloud.com “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” | Plato
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bluetooth question
Van Lant, Robin
Hi, I’ve used Bluetooth earphones with my iPhone, but not with a laptop the headphone jack on my work laptop seems to be not working. I’m not finding any plug in earbuds or headphoens in my house that will work so I can hear JAWS. I thought I could try pairing the earpiece I use with my iPhone. I turned off the Bluetooth connection on my iPhone and turned on Bleutooth in the laptop; however, I don’t see the earpiece showing up in the list, even though my earpiece is in pairing mode. Am I going about this the correct way? Should a basic, Bluetooth earpiece that works with an iPhone also work with a laptop or is there a difference? I think this is a Plantronics earpiece, but I’m not positive. It’s possible my company has some security restriction on Bluetooth, but I dread calling our helpdesk to ask.
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Van Lant, Robin
I create groups just fine. Thankfully, JAWS now reads the group members list for me as I arrow up and down. As others have said, you do need to go to the ribbon to hit the add members button. A submenu opens where you choose where you want to search for members. You’ll be looking in Outlook contacts, if this is a personal email account. If you are at a company, you’d likely be adding from the Address Book. The only real downside to creating groups in outlook is that a person in your group has to be a contact. In other words, you cannot just type a bunch of email addresses into the group.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:16 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Creating a group in outlook
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Question About Excel
R&J
From time to time I have this issue and have tried many things to correct it. Sometimes they work and sometimes they do not work. Please try the following:
1. Go to the "VIEW" menu and zoom in or out. 75% and 100% seem to be the best zoom sizes. 2. Press alt+space bar and try "Restore" if the window is maximized or try "Max" if the window is not maximized. 3. Press insert+Escape or try insert+ctl+Escape to reset the JAWS scripts. 4. If push comes to shove, I kill JAWS and restart it. Most of the time, one of these methods will correct the problem. Ron
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Re: Access to the NextDoorsite
Richard Turner
I just tried it after signing up. I was able to hear the subject field and the message field after hitting the compose button in the messages list with both Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 beta. I’m using the new Chromium Edge. Maybe try that and see if it works better.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 6:25 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Access to the NextDoorsite
Hello Group,
For a number of years, I have been a member of the Nextdoor.com neighborhood site, specific to my immediate neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Until recently, I have been able to post messages to the site which I attempted to do e arlier this morning. However, as soon as I opened the message link, and tabbed to the subject field, Jaws stopped speaking. Nonetheless, I tabbed to the message body field and began composing a message. Again, JAWS was silent, so I could not read the content of what I was writing. I have been using Google Chrome for a couple of months. Could this be a Google issue, or do I need to do a JAWS repair, try a different browser or is Nextdoor no longer accessible as it has been, necessitating bringing this to their attention. I would guess that some of the US members have and do use this site. Any help is appreciated.
Peace to all, Justin
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
See if this message, part of a conversation on the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, helps: https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/message/441
There has not been a ton of change in creation and editing of email groups in recent versions of Outlook. Office Accessibility Discussion Group Addresses:
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
After you give the group a name, try alt+h, then m. You will be in a search box. Or, tab to where you can just type in their email address. It is clunky at best.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
Hi Justin, please, can you keep me in this loop as I had the same problem. I used control shift with the letter b but I still can’t select any members. I know that I did have a chance to select a member but instead it used the email of that person as the group name. So please, let me know what you get for suggestions. Thanks so much. I have 2 groups that I frequently send messages and they are always the same message so as you know, it makes it so much easier. Andy and Shubert rip
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
I think you need to tab to the ad members button I'll look up the keystrokes when I'm back on my computer.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Oct 22, 2020, at 6:16 AM, Justin Mcdevitt <jhmcdev@...> wrote:
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi Justin, please, can you keep me in this loop as I had the same problem. I used control shift with the letter b but I still can’t select any members. I know that I did have a chance to select a member but instead it used the email of that person as the group name. So please, let me know what you get for suggestions. Thanks so much. I have 2 groups that I frequently send messages and they are always the same message so as you know, it makes it so much easier. Andy and Shubert rip
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:16 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Creating a group in outlook
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin
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Re: using Power Chute with JAWS
Mario
thanks Glenn.
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From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glennervin@cableone.net] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 7:55 PM Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS Mine uses a standard type at one end, and the block shaped type at the other, like what would plug into a printer. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:53 PM Subject: Re: using Power Chute with JAWS is the USB cable standard (and can get one from whom ever sells one) or is it propriatary, therefore I will have to check with APC? -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 4:10 PM Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS It wasn't all that accessible, but it can give you some useful info if you need to know things like when your last ups event was and the like. On 10/21/2020 14:09, Mario wrote: I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA? I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it do it's job without using the PCPE. . .
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Re: using Power Chute with JAWS
Mario
thanks Chris. I lost mine a few years ago because I didn't think installing PCPE would be useful and accessible.
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but now that I replaced the battery, I see the version of the program is 3.1 and considered to give it a try.
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From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 10:00 PM Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS They usually come in the box. It is a plain old a-b cable like we used to use on printers. On 10/21/2020 18:53, Mario wrote: is the USB cable standard (and can get one from whom ever sells one) or is it propriatary, therefore I will have to check with APC? -------- Original Message -------- From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 4:10 PM Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS It wasn't all that accessible, but it can give you some useful info if you need to know things like when your last ups event was and the like. On 10/21/2020 14:09, Mario wrote: I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA? I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it do it's job without using the PCPE. . .
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Access to the NextDoorsite
Justin Mcdevitt
Hello Group,
For a number of years, I have been a member of the Nextdoor.com neighborhood site, specific to my immediate neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Until recently, I have been able to post messages to the site which I attempted to do e arlier this morning. However, as soon as I opened the message link, and tabbed to the subject field, Jaws stopped speaking. Nonetheless, I tabbed to the message body field and began composing a message. Again, JAWS was silent, so I could not read the content of what I was writing. I have been using Google Chrome for a couple of months. Could this be a Google issue, or do I need to do a JAWS repair, try a different browser or is Nextdoor no longer accessible as it has been, necessitating bringing this to their attention. I would guess that some of the US members have and do use this site. Any help is appreciated.
Peace to all, Justin
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Creating a group in outlook
Justin Mcdevitt
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin
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i found a bug regarding jaws+f10 running task list
mike mcglashon
Hey guys:
I found a bug in jaws2021, That, if I hit jaws+f10, Jaws only lists the running tasks in the same desktop where jaws is loaded;
This came up because I use multiple desktops, and, Jaws is only loaded in one of them;
Also, I do not believe that this bug is only for jaws2021, I believe this has been a phenomenon in even older versions;
It looks to me as if jaws never contemplated people using multiple desktops in windows 10;
Please advise as you like.
Mike M.
Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331
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Re: podcast apps
Hope Williamson
I clicked on one, and it was the search button. I typed in
something, and the search results were all unlabeled.
On 10/21/2020 8:17 AM, David Diamond
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Re: podcast apps
Hope Williamson
I tried this, and not only were buttons not labeled, but list
items, and search results weren't either.
On 10/21/2020 8:55 AM, Stan Bobbitt
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Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?
John Covici
Any way to tell who is talking in Google meets? They don't have very
many keystrokes in that app. On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:58:52 -0400, Patrick Johnson wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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