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JAWS Script for Goldwave

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

 

Where can I find the latest JAWS script for Goldwave 6.3.1?

 

I am also needing the instructions on how to install such a script.  I have two computers one is a Windows 10 and the other is a Windows 7 computer.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


serious trouble managing thousands of emails via gmail

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,
I have a ton of emails I need to delte.
I'm having serious issues.

I can't easily access my gmail account, & select only the messages I want.

I'm using jaws 18.

I've tried with firefox, edge, windows 10 mail, & now outlook.

What can I do?

Thanks,
Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating in PowerPoint

Hello,
If you press alt with w and then the letter d, you should be in the slide show and able to view it as described. To move to the next slide, press the space bar or page down key; to move to the previous slide, press the page up key.
Hope this helps


On 8/16/18, Elise Berkley <bravaegf@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello, all.
I recieved powerpoints from my professor, and I cannot navigate very
well. I cannot seem to open a slide to read the information line by
line, word by word, etc. I am missing alot of vital information in
detail. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks very much.
Elise Berkley




Re: Could you remind me of the new Microsoft Word access option in JAWS?

 

I assume you mean the setting “Use accessibility driver for screen capture”

The setting is still there, having it checked means Jaws does what it has always done and it uses the accessibility driver.

For me unchecking it has undesireable results in some other legecy applications I use and as a member of the Jaws Beta program I think it’s OK for me to say that this is not something FS has focused on recently, maybe they will down the road, but while you can uncheck it to see what happens I’d probably leave it alone. If you do want to try then remember that after you uncheck it you need to restart Jaws for the change to become effective.

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Could you remind me of the new Microsoft Word access option in JAWS?

 

As I remember, there’s an option to switch JAWS to use newer techniques for interacting at the software level with Microsoft Word.

 

I can’t recall when it was introduced or what the option is called, and my searches haven’t found it. Is it still in the latest release of JAWS 2018, and, if it is, what’s the name of the setting?

 

Any help in refreshing my memory would be appreciated.

 


Could you remind me of the new Microsoft Word access option in JAWS?

Jason White
 

As I remember, there’s an option to switch JAWS to use newer techniques for interacting at the software level with Microsoft Word.

 

I can’t recall when it was introduced or what the option is called, and my searches haven’t found it. Is it still in the latest release of JAWS 2018, and, if it is, what’s the name of the setting?

 

Any help in refreshing my memory would be appreciated.

 


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald Levy
 

 
I don’t understand.  If your hard drive crashes, you need a rescue medium to perform an image restoration from a backup external drive.  This rescue medium, whether it is a DVD,flash drive or portable external drive has some kind of user interface which must be navigated.  But there is no speech on the rescue medium so there is no way to navigate it without sighted help.  You cannot simply plug a rescue medium into a USB port an automatically initiate the restoration without some kind of intervention.  Options must be selected.  Check boxes must be checked, etc.  How is this done without speech orsighted help?
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?
 

Brian,

 

As stated in at least two messages in this thread today, one must have a secondary  accessible operating system to boot in order to run the Image for Windows program. This is accomplished in one of two ways: (1) Obtain the most excellent Windows 10 pre-installation environment from http://www.opopanax.net/download and write it to a USB drive or DVD, or (2) obtain the Windows Media Creation Tool from https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209 and make a Windows 10 installation USB thumb drive or DVD, boot it, and start Narrator.

 

There is one more thing one has to do which has not been mentioned so far, and that is, to build an external, or "portable," copy of IFW on another drive. I have recorded a short program detailing how to do this. Download it from https://www.dropbox.com/s/654zldv0meha93c/PE%20Builder.mp3?dl=0


On 8/16/2018 10:47 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Just for my own edification, I would like to know more about how a JAWS user goes about actually doing a restore, if/when necessary/desirable, using Image for Windows.

I have yet to know of any way that is accessible, at least in any conventional sense of the word, to recover from an external system image on a system where Windows either will not boot or, if a new HDD replacement was needed, does not even exist.

If this utility has some sort of speech enabled recovery process that would be most useful to know about.  And I mean specifically recovering from a disaster where you are not going to be booting into Windows in order to kick off the entire process.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: Changing line spacing in Word2016

Marianne Denning
 

ctrl 2 changes to double spacing.

--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

 Brian,


As stated in at least two messages in this thread today, one must have a secondary  accessible operating system to boot in order to run the Image for Windows program. This is accomplished in one of two ways: (1) Obtain the most excellent Windows 10 pre-installation environment from http://www.opopanax.net/download and write it to a USB drive or DVD, or (2) obtain the Windows Media Creation Tool from https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209 and make a Windows 10 installation USB thumb drive or DVD, boot it, and start Narrator.


There is one more thing one has to do which has not been mentioned so far, and that is, to build an external, or "portable," copy of IFW on another drive. I have recorded a short program detailing how to do this. Download it from https://www.dropbox.com/s/654zldv0meha93c/PE%20Builder.mp3?dl=0


On 8/16/2018 10:47 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Just for my own edification, I would like to know more about how a JAWS user goes about actually doing a restore, if/when necessary/desirable, using Image for Windows.

I have yet to know of any way that is accessible, at least in any conventional sense of the word, to recover from an external system image on a system where Windows either will not boot or, if a new HDD replacement was needed, does not even exist.

If this utility has some sort of speech enabled recovery process that would be most useful to know about.  And I mean specifically recovering from a disaster where you are not going to be booting into Windows in order to kick off the entire process.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill



Jaws stops talking using Word2016

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, I will be in a word document and flip to Outlook2016 to get something from an email. I have multiple documents in word open. After flipping back and forth from Outlook and word Jaws has a hard time reading the word document. I cannot use the control key and a arrow key to move from word to word. I have to arrow up and down multiple times to have a line read. I end up unload and loading Jaws. Then after flipping back and forth between outlook and word it goes back to have the problem with reading. I even made sure the word window is maximized. What could be wrong?

 

 

Kevin Meyers – motivational speaker

http://www.kevinsmeyers.com

6100 West Stonehedge Drive

Suite 148C

Greenfield, WI 53220

312-625-7710

 


Changing line spacing in Word2016

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to change line spacing? I need to go from single to double.

 

Kevin Meyers – motivational speaker

http://www.kevinsmeyers.com

6100 West Stonehedge Drive

Suite 148C

Greenfield, WI 53220

312-625-7710

 


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

 

Just for my own edification, I would like to know more about how a JAWS user goes about actually doing a restore, if/when necessary/desirable, using Image for Windows.

I have yet to know of any way that is accessible, at least in any conventional sense of the word, to recover from an external system image on a system where Windows either will not boot or, if a new HDD replacement was needed, does not even exist.

If this utility has some sort of speech enabled recovery process that would be most useful to know about.  And I mean specifically recovering from a disaster where you are not going to be booting into Windows in order to kick off the entire process.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

Gerald, have you been reading anything any of us have written today about Image for Windows? If not, I would respectfully request and suggest you do so forthwith. IFW is highly accessible. As I wrote, there's one screen whose behavior is a little odd, but by no means accessible.

On 8/16/2018 7:37 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

I have heard that the latest version of Image for Windows, which, by the way, is not free, is not very accessible with JAWS.  Is this true?  Or is it totally JAWS accessible? And is the restoration procedure you describe JAWS accessible?  Seems to me that no matter which rescue medium you use, i.e., DVD's,external drive or flash drive, there would be no speech to navigate the user interface to initiate the image restoration procedure.  How do you get around this?

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve,

I have been using image for windows for probably 10+ years. I cannot tell you how many times it has saved my bacon. Way back I used to create images on DVD's and one could restore without sighted assistance as there was a tutorial done by David Farrin (Jaws-users-list) telling one what needed to be pushed when the reboot screen first came up.
However, what I came to several years ago is simply using a USB to sata adapter and restoring directly to whatever drive I wanted by using a spare bootable drive I had to perform the operation. If anyone is not following this, write back and I'll provide more detailed directions.

Great software and don't know why so many folks keep looking for something accessible when this has been around for years.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from http://www.opopanax.net/download, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind? Seems to
me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to
restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7
backup tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel
and then find it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and
then you will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from
the windows 10 installer screen using narrator, remember the installer
now talks.  You would click on repair my computer and you can restore
the backup from there, it backs up all jaws and other licenses you
have when it does a sector by sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?


Re: Navigating in PowerPoint

 

I second Ann Byrne's suggestion when you want to be able to easily pore over the content of a slide show in detail.

That being said, most, not all, but most of the commands you will use in any MS-Office program are not screen reader commands, but commands for the Office program itself.  Those that are screen reader specific, like dealing with making the screen reader announce row or column titles in Excel, are documented in the screen reader documentation.

The following can prove to be handy when you want to play around with any of the Office programs, particularly for the more obscure features:

Keyboard Shortcuts for Microsoft Office Programs

Keystrokes for Office programs from Microsoft Support Pages:

Word

Excel

Outlook

PowerPoint

Access

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Navigating in PowerPoint

Shai
 

Hello,
If you press alt with w and then the letter d, you should be in the
slide show and able to view it as described. To move to the next
slide, press the space bar or page down key; to move to the previous
slide, press the page up key.
Hope this helps

On 8/16/18, Elise Berkley <bravaegf@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello, all.
I recieved powerpoints from my professor, and I cannot navigate very well. I
cannot seem to open a slide to read the information line by line, word by
word, etc. I am missing alot of vital information in detail. Can anyone help
me with this? Thanks very much.
Elise Berkley




Re: Navigating in PowerPoint

Sharon
 

I have never been able to figure Power Point out, so directions would be very much appreciated.

I’ve always found it to be a complete mystery, rather like Excel. No matter how much I try to work with it, I just can’t figure it out!

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Elise Berkley
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Navigating in PowerPoint

 

Hello, all.

I recieved powerpoints from my professor, and I cannot navigate very well. I cannot seem to open a slide to read the information line by line, word by word, etc. I am missing alot of vital information in detail. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks very much.

Elise Berkley


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald Levy
 

I have heard that the latest version of Image for Windows, which, by the way, is not free, is not very accessible with JAWS. Is this true? Or is it totally JAWS accessible? And is the restoration procedure you describe JAWS accessible? Seems to me that no matter which rescue medium you use, i.e., DVD's,external drive or flash drive, there would be no speech to navigate the user interface to initiate the image restoration procedure. How do you get around this?

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve,

I have been using image for windows for probably 10+ years. I cannot tell you how many times it has saved my bacon. Way back I used to create images on DVD's and one could restore without sighted assistance as there was a tutorial done by David Farrin (Jaws-users-list) telling one what needed to be pushed when the reboot screen first came up.
However, what I came to several years ago is simply using a USB to sata adapter and restoring directly to whatever drive I wanted by using a spare bootable drive I had to perform the operation. If anyone is not following this, write back and I'll provide more detailed directions.

Great software and don't know why so many folks keep looking for something accessible when this has been around for years.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from http://www.opopanax.net/download, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind? Seems to
me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to
restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7
backup tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel
and then find it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and
then you will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from
the windows 10 installer screen using narrator, remember the installer
now talks. You would click on repair my computer and you can restore
the backup from there, it backs up all jaws and other licenses you
have when it does a sector by sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?


Re: Navigating in PowerPoint

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Ms. Berkeley,
You can also, while in PowerPoint, hit F5. This is the slideshow tab, and press space to cycle through the slides. If you accidentally hit escape well in the slideshow, press shift plus F5 to get back to the slideshow and your current slide. Hope this also helps.
Thank you for asking,
Ashleigh Piccinino


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:18:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating in PowerPoint
 
The easiest way to get all the content from a PowerPoint presentation
is to export it to .pdf or .rtf.

1. Press alt+f to get to the files menu and backstage view.
2. Press 'e' or arrow to "export".
3. Press tab.  The first choice is to export to .pdf or .xps.  Tab a
second time and press enter to activate this, or
4. don't tab a second time and arrow down to other export choices.
5. if you want .rtf, choose "other" at the end of the export list,
and .rtf will be there.

the awesome thing is that all the presentation text is available!

good luck!

ann





Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

Richard,


Firstly, note the word "image" in the name of the software. It's not meant for backing up individual files or folders.


Secondly, there are no  screenreader-specific instructions. They all just work. The only exception, if it is indeed an exception, is the final options screen, where the letter X is placed in front of checked options, and that X is outside the list view, so the JAWS Cursor is required to detect their presence. I've been on to Terabyte for ages to change this, but either my emails fall on deaf ears, or they've not ever gotten to the right person within their organization, or some other thing of which I cannot think or imagine. These things should be real checkboxes.


On 8/16/2018 7:25 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Steve,
Perhaps I need more directions on the Terrabyte package. I tried the trial version, but it seems not as clear to me how you select just the folders you want backed up.
Do you have any instructions for Jaws users?
I am fine with spending $50, but I'm not convinced yet. I do know I do not want to just use the Windows backup though.
Richard


"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." -- Terry Pratchett



[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:57 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opopanax.net%2Fdownload&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=FRxO70QqpraRaDNdDuA1EJ7u%2F5DUO4%2BzdePQtPdieaw%3D&amp;reserved=0, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D691209&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=JWNp1EWk6T8l3PHdhGGzP%2B8%2BmLzvYfxfNeMtT1aHS9Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terabyteunlimited.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=77cJHyoWoBt6wBZGyLU%2BXK7LrqEFp%2F%2BUKdy7QOVgj68%3D&amp;reserved=0 - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind?  Seems to me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7 backup
tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel and then find
it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and then you
will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from the windows 10
installer screen using narrator, remember the installer now talks.  You
would click on repair my computer and you can restore the backup from there,
it backs up all jaws and other licenses you have when it does a sector by
sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with jaws?






Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Richard Turner
 


Alan, please say more.
Links to any tutorials would be great too.
Richard


"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." -- Terry Pratchett



[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Aug 16, 2018, at 4:21 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057@...> wrote:

Steve,

I have been using image for windows for probably 10+ years. I cannot tell you how many times it has saved my bacon. Way back I used to create images on DVD's and one could restore without sighted assistance as there was a tutorial done by David Farrin (Jaws-users-list) telling one what needed to be pushed when the reboot screen first came up.
However, what I came to several years ago is simply using a USB to sata adapter and restoring directly to whatever drive I wanted by using a spare bootable drive I had to perform the operation. If anyone is not following this, write back and I'll provide more detailed directions.

Great software and don't know why so many folks keep looking for something  accessible when this has been around for years.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opopanax.net%2Fdownload&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C35b96b6db92d4ba3496208d6036a5832%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700152607122976&amp;sdata=K4cLunQ9wZMMNCQX89%2FAdQN%2FNv5Sf83MPFyn9l%2FM88E%3D&amp;reserved=0, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D691209&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C35b96b6db92d4ba3496208d6036a5832%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700152607122976&amp;sdata=GHHY806vQ5%2FXY3WVKvbVLxJznhhwhcw6jxub1KfZxc0%3D&amp;reserved=0


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terabyteunlimited.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C35b96b6db92d4ba3496208d6036a5832%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700152607122976&amp;sdata=EwgHHKSpY1gMVsxa%2FfZUZMvqU3UZ8KLjCAZnfB6P0os%3D&amp;reserved=0 - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind?  Seems to
me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to
restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7
backup tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel
and then find it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and
then you will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from
the windows 10 installer screen using narrator, remember the installer
now talks.  You would click on repair my computer and you can restore
the backup from there, it backs up all jaws and other licenses you
have when it does a sector by sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?









Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve Matzura
 

Al, they're not looking for accessible, because we all know that already exists; they're looking for free.

On 8/16/2018 7:20 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
Steve,

I have been using image for windows for probably 10+ years. I cannot tell you how many times it has saved my bacon. Way back I used to create images on DVD's and one could restore without sighted assistance as there was a tutorial done by David Farrin (Jaws-users-list) telling one what needed to be pushed when the reboot screen first came up.
However, what I came to several years ago is simply using a USB to sata adapter and restoring directly to whatever drive I wanted by using a spare bootable drive I had to perform the operation. If anyone is not following this, write back and I'll provide more detailed directions.

Great software and don't know why so many folks keep looking for something accessible when this has been around for years.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from http://www.opopanax.net/download, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind? Seems to
me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to
restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7
backup tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel
and then find it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and
then you will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from
the windows 10 installer screen using narrator, remember the installer
now talks. You would click on repair my computer and you can restore
the backup from there, it backs up all jaws and other licenses you
have when it does a sector by sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Richard Turner
 


Steve,
Perhaps I need more directions on the Terrabyte package. I tried the trial version, but it seems not as clear to me how you select just the folders you want backed up.
Do you have any instructions for Jaws users?
I am fine with spending $50, but I'm not convinced yet. I do know I do not want to just use the Windows backup though.
Richard


"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." -- Terry Pratchett



[Sent from my little hand-held computer]



On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:57 AM, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:

Gerald,


Re-read Isaac's message. You must have either a Windows pre-installation environment with NVDA enabled, which you can get from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opopanax.net%2Fdownload&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=FRxO70QqpraRaDNdDuA1EJ7u%2F5DUO4%2BzdePQtPdieaw%3D&amp;reserved=0, or the Windows 10 installation disk you make with the Windows Media Creation Tool from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D691209&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=JWNp1EWk6T8l3PHdhGGzP%2B8%2BmLzvYfxfNeMtT1aHS9Q%3D&amp;reserved=0


Another possibility, my personal and particular favorite, is Terabyte Unlimited's Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite from https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terabyteunlimited.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C156e71e772d74e658b6108d60366ffcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636700138238572676&amp;sdata=77cJHyoWoBt6wBZGyLU%2BXK7LrqEFp%2F%2BUKdy7QOVgj68%3D&amp;reserved=0 - You still need the above mentioned tools for a restore to the system's boot drive of course. The Microsoft backup program is OK, but if you like or want finer control of backup media, with more interesting and useful options and features, then, in my unhumble opinion, the Terabyte product is the better choice. Many users don't like it because it's not free--costs about fifty dollars US--but after trying the program for thirty days and discovering it doesn't do any more for you than the included backup program already on your Windows machine, you can uninstall it and still walk away happy.

On 8/16/2018 6:38 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

And all this can be done without sighted help of any kind?  Seems to me that if your hard drive crashes, you would have no speech to restore the backup image from the external drive.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Well, with windows 10 latest addition, you can use the old windows 7 backup
tool that is built in to windows 10 under the control pannel and then find
it there.
You will create a system image, and store it on a backup drive, and then you
will have to boot from usb to restore the system image from the windows 10
installer screen using narrator, remember the installer now talks.  You
would click on repair my computer and you can restore the backup from there,
it backs up all jaws and other licenses you have when it does a sector by
sector backup.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:42 PM
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?


Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with jaws?