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moderated Re: Parler

Hope Williamson
 

Hi, I've never been able to sign up for Parler. If they do have an Audio CAPTCHA, that option has never come up for me, ever.

On 1/10/2021 6:22 AM, Lino Morales wrote:

Bill. Parler is also been axed from the Google play store. They have an audio CAPTCHA. On the web it will be offline for a week cause in their infinite greatness Amazon pulled their survers they were using.

On 1/10/2021 2:14 AM, Bill Tessore wrote:
Actually, only the Parler app has been removed from the Apple App Store. being an independent company, Apple has no power to eliminate the Parler platform. One can still go to Parler.com and login there. As for signup accessibility, I’ve not tried that yet as I’ve been studying its About page and Policies statement. So I’ll hav to look into it. If it is an issue, then I’ll try pointing it out for resolution. It’s my impression the owner and company still value ALL their users enough to meet everyone’s needs they can.

Shalom,



Bill Tessore


On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Andy <wq6r@...> wrote:


What is interesting is that before that happened Parler was the number 1 download in the app store.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

As of Saturday, Apple suspended Parler (correct spelling) because it embraces threats of violence and illegality. If those are things you admire, you’ll need to look elsewhere.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MeWe

 

I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

 

Andy

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tessore

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: MeWe

 

All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.

Bill Tessore

 



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?

Thanks.

Marilyn

moderated Re: favorite email client on windows?

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Microsoft Outlook for me.

Pastor Gilbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: favorite email client on windows?


On 1/10/21 9:23 AM, Curt Taubert wrote:
I use Thunderbird.
I use Thunderbird under Linux. I can't comment on its accessibility with Windows/JAWS, but it does seem to have a good reputation there also.
Under Windows, it's Microsoft Outlook for me. If I weren't using Microsoft OneDrive and Microsoft Office, as I currently do for work-related reasons, I probably wouldn't use Windows at all.
moderated Re: favorite email client on windows?

Richard Turner
 

I find Outlook to be the most accessible and complete email client for Windows.
I use Microsoft 365 so everything works together nicely.



Richard

Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: favorite email client on windows?


On 1/10/21 9:23 AM, Curt Taubert wrote:
I use Thunderbird.
I use Thunderbird under Linux. I can't comment on its accessibility with Windows/JAWS, but it does seem to have a good reputation there also.
Under Windows, it's Microsoft Outlook for me. If I weren't using Microsoft OneDrive and Microsoft Office, as I currently do for work-related reasons, I probably wouldn't use Windows at all.
moderated Re: favorite email client on windows?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hello Curt,

Thunderbird is unusable for me! The response speed is absolutely unacceptable, plus sly Mozilla practises? Thanks but no thanks.

Sunday, January 10, 2021, 3:23:03 PM, you wrote:

I use Thunderbird.
On 1/9/2021 4:19 PM, Maria Reyes via groups.io wrote:
Hi guys
What is your favorite email client that works great with Jaws on Windows? I really like Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro


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moderated Re: favorite email client on windows?

Jason White
 

On 1/10/21 9:23 AM, Curt Taubert wrote:
I use Thunderbird.
I use Thunderbird under Linux. I can't comment on its accessibility with Windows/JAWS, but it does seem to have a good reputation there also. Under Windows, it's Microsoft Outlook for me. If I weren't using Microsoft OneDrive and Microsoft Office, as I currently do for work-related reasons, I probably wouldn't use Windows at all.
moderated Jaws & Discussion Board in Blackboard

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Everyone,

I'm working with a student who is using Jaws 2021 and is enrolled in
an English course. The course is being delivered mostly online in
Blackboard, version 9.1, I believe.

The issue we are having is with the Discussion Board. The students
must post an introduction in the Discussion Board, and read and
respond to at least 2 other student introductions.

When the student clicks on "Create Thread" to start his introduction,
Jaws goes into "Application Mode. In this mode, the student can type
in the Subject line, but there seems to be no way to get to the editor
where the student must type in his introduction. Well, he can get to
it by tabbing twice, but once there, he is not able to type anything
in this editor, and there is no indication that he has entered the
editor. Jaws reads "Thread: Self introduction. – ENGL-102-AS07(1) -
2021 Win..." when tabbing twice from the subject field. We can confirm
that no text is being entered when typing by getting out of
Applications Mode and narrowing down to where the Word count is shown,
and it shows 0 words. The student is able to type his introduction in
Word, copy all the text, and then paste it into the editor, but can
not then read what he has pasted. We know the text has been pasted by
the Word count, and once he submits his post, we are able to open it
and read it with Jaws.
The same thing happens when trying to respond to another student's
introduction. He is able to read the introduction, press enter on
"Reply" but cannot type or even know when or if he is in the Editor.
He is able to type the response in Word, and copy and paste it into
the Editor, but it seems like sometimes pressing tab twice from the
subject field takes him into the editor, and sometimes he must tab 3
times, and since there is no indication that he is in the Editor, it
is really hit and miss and quite frustrating.

Are there settings in Blackboard that can be changed to allow Jaws to
work with the Editor in the Discussions area? Are there any Jaws
settings that can be changed to make this work?

I also experience this same issue on my PC, so it's not specific to
the student's computer. The problem also exists with NVDA. We are both
running Windows 10 and Jaws 2021.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Russell
moderated Re: favorite email client on windows?

Curt Taubert
 

I use Thunderbird.

On 1/9/2021 4:19 PM, Maria Reyes via groups.io wrote:
Hi guys
What is your favorite email client that works great with Jaws on Windows? I really like Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
moderated Re: Parler

Lino Morales
 

Bill. Parler is also been axed from the Google play store. They have an audio CAPTCHA. On the web it will be offline for a week cause in their infinite greatness Amazon pulled their survers they were using.

On 1/10/2021 2:14 AM, Bill Tessore wrote:
Actually, only the Parler app has been removed from the Apple App Store. being an independent company, Apple has no power to eliminate the Parler platform. One can still go to Parler.com and login there. As for signup accessibility, I’ve not tried that yet as I’ve been studying its About page and Policies statement. So I’ll hav to look into it. If it is an issue, then I’ll try pointing it out for resolution. It’s my impression the owner and company still value ALL their users enough to meet everyone’s needs they can.

Shalom,



Bill Tessore


On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Andy <wq6r@...> wrote:


What is interesting is that before that happened Parler was the number 1 download in the app store.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

As of Saturday, Apple suspended Parler (correct spelling) because it embraces threats of violence and illegality. If those are things you admire, you’ll need to look elsewhere.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MeWe

 

I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

 

Andy

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tessore

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: MeWe

 

All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.

Bill Tessore

 



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?

Thanks.

Marilyn

moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

Richard Turner
 

There should be a trigger on the underside of the PDA that releases the braille display so you can separate them. Then, there should be a little mini USB port on the left side of the display. 
If the pacmate can not be separated, it is too old to bother with. 
But, maybe there is a driver that FS support can point you to. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 10, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:



Okay, have you looked on the left side of the display for a mini usb port?

 

When you plug the display to the Pacmate what version of the display is shown?

 

These are questions Freedom Scientific Support will ask so you should check these things out.

 

This is just a suggestion to figure out the problem.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

They are still clipped together.  I’ve been searching the BX manual and didn’t see any option to run the display without the PDA part.  A quick examination of the display only section doesn’t suggest it would support running completely stand-alone as I see no USB type A or mini B port.  The display is working with the PDA part which is running 6.2 of the environment but I haven’t figured out how to update it since I don’t have any way of connecting CF cards to my system to prepare one for an upgrade path.

 

I figured they would flatly deny support since it is so old.  This came from an era of proprietary  USB protocols so I am expecting to need some sort of USB driver.

 

I did manage to find it in the Device Manager in control panel.  It’s listed under Other Devices under its name but doesn’t know much about it and says there is no driver for it.

 

“Device status: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)”

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Have you separated the display from the note taker? 

My guess is the display is too old to be supported, but you may need to call FS on Monday. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I would check to see what is going on with your USB port in the device manager in Windows 10. Let me know if you need help finding the device manager.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Someone gave me this braille display and I’ve managed to get it up and running as far as the Windows mobile usage is concerned.  But I really want to be able to do braille display of my desktop PC running Windows 10.  I have it connected via USB but the computer doesn’t seem to acknowledge it from what I can tell.  The device is running off the power from the port and I know the cable works as I use it for my old Book Port Plus.

I’ve tried to tell JAWS that a Pac Mate is there in the braille settings by adding a display but it just never selects it (keeps switching back to no display).    As I’m on Windows 10, ActiveSync install is impossible (stopped support at XP).  And google has failed me so far for any details other that the ActiveSync companion CD had some USB driver bundled with it for the device.  No sign of that driver either.

 

It just seems to be such a waste for a usable braille display that  is still serviceable as a hosted display if the PDA part is not so useful now.

 

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

                Dan
moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

Milton Ota
 

Okay, have you looked on the left side of the display for a mini usb port?

 

When you plug the display to the Pacmate what version of the display is shown?

 

These are questions Freedom Scientific Support will ask so you should check these things out.

 

This is just a suggestion to figure out the problem.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

They are still clipped together.  I’ve been searching the BX manual and didn’t see any option to run the display without the PDA part.  A quick examination of the display only section doesn’t suggest it would support running completely stand-alone as I see no USB type A or mini B port.  The display is working with the PDA part which is running 6.2 of the environment but I haven’t figured out how to update it since I don’t have any way of connecting CF cards to my system to prepare one for an upgrade path.

 

I figured they would flatly deny support since it is so old.  This came from an era of proprietary  USB protocols so I am expecting to need some sort of USB driver.

 

I did manage to find it in the Device Manager in control panel.  It’s listed under Other Devices under its name but doesn’t know much about it and says there is no driver for it.

 

“Device status: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)”

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Have you separated the display from the note taker? 

My guess is the display is too old to be supported, but you may need to call FS on Monday. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I would check to see what is going on with your USB port in the device manager in Windows 10. Let me know if you need help finding the device manager.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Someone gave me this braille display and I’ve managed to get it up and running as far as the Windows mobile usage is concerned.  But I really want to be able to do braille display of my desktop PC running Windows 10.  I have it connected via USB but the computer doesn’t seem to acknowledge it from what I can tell.  The device is running off the power from the port and I know the cable works as I use it for my old Book Port Plus.

I’ve tried to tell JAWS that a Pac Mate is there in the braille settings by adding a display but it just never selects it (keeps switching back to no display).    As I’m on Windows 10, ActiveSync install is impossible (stopped support at XP).  And google has failed me so far for any details other that the ActiveSync companion CD had some USB driver bundled with it for the device.  No sign of that driver either.

 

It just seems to be such a waste for a usable braille display that  is still serviceable as a hosted display if the PDA part is not so useful now.

 

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

                Dan
moderated Re: MeWe

John Covici
 

That is just the app, you can still use your browser, unless they take
down the hosting provider.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 02:32:16 -0500,
Andy wrote:

Well, it's academic now, as Apple withdrew it from the app store.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici"
<covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


I used aira to solve the captcha and also complained to support -- see
what happens.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:44:28 -0500,
Andy wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app
store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because
in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

Andy
.
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Tessore
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the
increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against
users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of
those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to
political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also
there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search
results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how
sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like
Google. com does. Shalom.


Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com




On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello all,



I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to
join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?



Thanks.



Marilyn









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moderated Re: MeWe

Bill Tessore
 

Andy, have you tried entering http://www.parler.com into your search engine to try logging on from the main page? if you want to use it, then I suggest doing that first before giving up.

Shalom,



Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com

On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Andy <wq6r@socal.rr.com> wrote:

Well, it's academic now, as Apple withdrew it from the app store.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


I used aira to solve the captcha and also complained to support -- see
what happens.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:44:28 -0500,
Andy wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

Andy
.
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Tessore
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.


Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com




On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello all,



I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?



Thanks.



Marilyn









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covici@ccs.covici.com
moderated Re: Parler

Andy
 


Parler uses Amazon Web Services as their server, and AWS also canceled them.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

Actually, only the Parler app has been removed from the Apple App Store. being an independent company, Apple has no power to eliminate the Parler platform. One can still go to Parler.com and login there. As for signup accessibility, I’ve not tried that yet as I’ve been studying its About page and Policies statement. So I’ll hav to look into it. If it is an issue, then I’ll try pointing it out for resolution. It’s my impression the owner and company still value ALL their users enough to meet everyone’s needs they can.

Shalom,



Bill Tessore
billtessore@...


On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Andy <wq6r@...> wrote:


What is interesting is that before that happened Parler was the number 1 download in the app store.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

As of Saturday, Apple suspended Parler (correct spelling) because it embraces threats of violence and illegality. If those are things you admire, you’ll need to look elsewhere.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MeWe

I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

Andy

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tessore

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: MeWe

All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.

Bill Tessore



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?

Thanks.

Marilyn

moderated Re: MeWe

Andy
 

Well, it's academic now, as Apple withdrew it from the app store.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


I used aira to solve the captcha and also complained to support -- see
what happens.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:44:28 -0500,
Andy wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

Andy
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tessore
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.


Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com




On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello all,



I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?



Thanks.



Marilyn









[2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
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covici@ccs.covici.com
moderated Re: Parler

Bill Tessore
 

Actually, only the Parler app has been removed from the Apple App Store. being an independent company, Apple has no power to eliminate the Parler platform. One can still go to Parler.com and login there. As for signup accessibility, I’ve not tried that yet as I’ve been studying its About page and Policies statement. So I’ll hav to look into it. If it is an issue, then I’ll try pointing it out for resolution. It’s my impression the owner and company still value ALL their users enough to meet everyone’s needs they can.

Shalom,



Bill Tessore
billtessore@...


On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Andy <wq6r@...> wrote:


What is interesting is that before that happened Parler was the number 1 download in the app store.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

As of Saturday, Apple suspended Parler (correct spelling) because it embraces threats of violence and illegality. If those are things you admire, you’ll need to look elsewhere.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MeWe

 

I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

 

Andy

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tessore

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: MeWe

 

All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.

Bill Tessore

 



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?

Thanks.

Marilyn

moderated Re: MeWe

John Covici
 

I used aira to solve the captcha and also complained to support -- see
what happens.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:44:28 -0500,
Andy wrote:

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I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

Andy
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tessore
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: MeWe


All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.


Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com




On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@hotmail.com> wrote:



Hello all,



I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?



Thanks.



Marilyn









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How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com
moderated Forwarded emails on list

Lindy
 

Hi

I get the daily summary message from the list and use the links for messages that I’m interested in. My problem is that I can’t seem to access the ones that have “forwarded emails” in them. How do I access these using the latest JAWS and Mozilla on a Windows 10 desk top?

Regards

Lindy
moderated Re: Parler

Andy
 


What is interesting is that before that happened Parler was the number 1 download in the app store.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Parler

As of Saturday, Apple suspended Parler (correct spelling) because it embraces threats of violence and illegality. If those are things you admire, you’ll need to look elsewhere.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MeWe

 

I was ready to download Parlar until i saw a review on the app store that said that it is inaccessible for blind users because in order to join you need to solve an inaccessible CAPTCHA

 

Andy

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tessore

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: MeWe

 

All I know is it’s a social media site inspired by the increasingly blatant sensorial actions of Big Tech against users with opinions that contrast with the alt-left views of those companies’ positions, particularly with regard to political matters. Others are Parler.com and Gab.com. Also there’s a search engine that does NOT artificially search results based on how closely sites/companies adhere to, or how sharply others diverge from similarly far left ideals, like Google. com does. Shalom.

Bill Tessore

 



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, marilyn <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:



Hello all,

I’ve never even heard of this app before I was asked to join it. What do you know about it? Any users? Opinions?

Thanks.

Marilyn

moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

Dan Miner
 

It’s under Other Devices listed by “PACmate USB RNDIS”

 

Device status: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)

 

Trying to do automatic driver updates results in no changes.  It doesn’t come out and say that it cannot find a driver but the eventual end at Software Updates claims I’m up to date.  *smile*

 

So, I do have the USB attached to the back of the PDA part as I see no way to attach a connection to just the display itself.  I have noticed the Pac Mate will respond to moments when my systems wakes.  So, there is some communication there.

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Hi,

 

I would check to see what is going on with your USB port in the device manager in Windows 10. Let me know if you need help finding the device manager.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Someone gave me this braille display and I’ve managed to get it up and running as far as the Windows mobile usage is concerned.  But I really want to be able to do braille display of my desktop PC running Windows 10.  I have it connected via USB but the computer doesn’t seem to acknowledge it from what I can tell.  The device is running off the power from the port and I know the cable works as I use it for my old Book Port Plus.

I’ve tried to tell JAWS that a Pac Mate is there in the braille settings by adding a display but it just never selects it (keeps switching back to no display).    As I’m on Windows 10, ActiveSync install is impossible (stopped support at XP).  And google has failed me so far for any details other that the ActiveSync companion CD had some USB driver bundled with it for the device.  No sign of that driver either.

 

It just seems to be such a waste for a usable braille display that  is still serviceable as a hosted display if the PDA part is not so useful now.

 

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

                Dan
moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

Dan Miner
 

They are still clipped together.  I’ve been searching the BX manual and didn’t see any option to run the display without the PDA part.  A quick examination of the display only section doesn’t suggest it would support running completely stand-alone as I see no USB type A or mini B port.  The display is working with the PDA part which is running 6.2 of the environment but I haven’t figured out how to update it since I don’t have any way of connecting CF cards to my system to prepare one for an upgrade path.

 

I figured they would flatly deny support since it is so old.  This came from an era of proprietary  USB protocols so I am expecting to need some sort of USB driver.

 

I did manage to find it in the Device Manager in control panel.  It’s listed under Other Devices under its name but doesn’t know much about it and says there is no driver for it.

 

“Device status: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)”

 

                Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Have you separated the display from the note taker? 

My guess is the display is too old to be supported, but you may need to call FS on Monday. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



On Jan 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Milton Ota <mota1252@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

I would check to see what is going on with your USB port in the device manager in Windows 10. Let me know if you need help finding the device manager.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Pac Mate Omni BX 400 vis USB

 

Someone gave me this braille display and I’ve managed to get it up and running as far as the Windows mobile usage is concerned.  But I really want to be able to do braille display of my desktop PC running Windows 10.  I have it connected via USB but the computer doesn’t seem to acknowledge it from what I can tell.  The device is running off the power from the port and I know the cable works as I use it for my old Book Port Plus.

I’ve tried to tell JAWS that a Pac Mate is there in the braille settings by adding a display but it just never selects it (keeps switching back to no display).    As I’m on Windows 10, ActiveSync install is impossible (stopped support at XP).  And google has failed me so far for any details other that the ActiveSync companion CD had some USB driver bundled with it for the device.  No sign of that driver either.

 

It just seems to be such a waste for a usable braille display that  is still serviceable as a hosted display if the PDA part is not so useful now.

 

Any pointers would be appreciated.

 

                Dan
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