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moderated Oracle Database through a GUI with JAWS?

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

What is the most common way people access Oracle Database using JAWS these days?

 

Thank you,

Mike

 


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Richard Turner
 

As for the iPhone, if you set the brightness to auto, when you use the screen curtain, the brightness will go to 0; which does save battery.
I could imagine that if you are running a laptop on battery it may help a little; but I'm not a computer technician.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 9, 2020, at 8:39 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi,

 

having screen curtain turned on would preserve at least some battery, since not having to power the backlight of a display would reduce some battery consumption. This is why low power mode when activated on both the iPhone and most laptops along with other functions they will dim the Brightness of the screen to preserve battery power, as the brighter the screen the more battery power it takes, so having screen curtain on and therefore having brightness dimmed down to almost zero would preserve some battery. I think any pc or smart phone site advising on saving battery life will almost always tell you to reduce the brightness of your screen to preserve battery life. However, I think like Jim said though, it’s probably not such a huge saving and probably less than it used to be years ago with advances in technology and the display being less power hungry than they would have been in the past

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: 09 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

having screen curtain turned on would preserve at least some battery, since not having to power the backlight of a display would reduce some battery consumption. This is why low power mode when activated on both the iPhone and most laptops along with other functions they will dim the Brightness of the screen to preserve battery power, as the brighter the screen the more battery power it takes, so having screen curtain on and therefore having brightness dimmed down to almost zero would preserve some battery. I think any pc or smart phone site advising on saving battery life will almost always tell you to reduce the brightness of your screen to preserve battery life. However, I think like Jim said though, it’s probably not such a huge saving and probably less than it used to be years ago with advances in technology and the display being less power hungry than they would have been in the past

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: 09 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Accessible Blogging Websites

Richard B. McDonald
 

WordPress and JAWS are in my experience the best.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Shumate
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 4:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible Blogging Websites

Hi all,
I am new to Jaws 2020. What website is best to start a Blog and what browser works best?


--
Laura Shumate larelishumate@...


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Gmail Jonas
 

The screen curtain   In Jaws will not save on your battery!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 2:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Accessible Blogging Websites

Laura Shumate
 

Hi all,
I am new to Jaws 2020. What website is best to start a Blog and what
browser works best?


--
Laura Shumate larelishumate@...


moderated Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi guys,

 

I just tried this option with jaws2020 latest update and a set of headfones (don’t know the make).

This might be of some use to someone.

I am using windows 10 home edition and jaws2020 latest versions of everything.

When I turn on my headfones first, they still cut out, even with jaws set to keep the sound card awake.

The only way to have this option actually work for me, is to shutdown jaws2020 and then restart it.

After that, everything works fine.

However, if I then turn off the headfones and turn them on again, they keep cutting out as if the jaws option is not set.

So to summarize:

Turn on headfones.

Turn off jaws.

Restart jaws.

Ye!!!

Haven’t tried it with speakers, as I have a pare of sony srs x-11.

They are absolutely useless, in that they connect to my bluetooth, once every 300 years!!!

 

Hope this helps someone,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 8 July 2020 17:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

 

Hi Steven,

 

Are you asking about audio ducking?  If so, read below.

 

Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
 Original Message 

 

From: Jessica D
Hi, 

 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled. 

 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 
From:
Bill White

 

Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
ducked, another application is running which uses the sound card. If another application is using the sound card, that application will usually keep the
sound card awake, independently of JAWS. 

 

Bill White 

 

 
New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech
When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking  
Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound
cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by
constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature,
open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to
load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using
Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."
 
Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you
choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the
Audio
Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while
JAWS speaks.
 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:51 AM

Subject: Sound Card Keep Awake Option

 

Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please?

I Assume that it is disabled by default?

 


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Jim Weiss
 

Paul,
Actually your battery savings will be minimal.  This is documented by Apple as well on their website.  The main drain for displaying graphics is the GPU and not the actual display.  Turning on screen curtain or screen shade does not shut down the GPU, all of the graphics rendering is still happening, it is just not being displayed.  You will save some battery by enabling it, but according to Apple the average user will not even notice the savings.  I am also a Mac and iPhone user and have screen curtain enabled on both of my devices almost all of the time and my battery lasts about the exact same.  With screen curtain off on my Mac Book I get 8 hours of battery, with it turned on the battery meter still reads 8 hours.  Now that 8 hours also depends on what I am doing, reading email and word processing is much less drain than running a Win 10 VM in VMware Fusion.
The main reason for screen shade/curtain is privacy.
HTH,
Jim
Jim Weiss


“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives” | William A. Foster


On Jul 9, 2020, at 3:52 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:

Hi Ashleigh,
 
No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too. 
 
Paul 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
 
I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay? 

Ashleigh Piccinino



On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io<paul.lemm@...> wrote:

 
Hi everyone,
 
I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?
 
Paul Lemm



moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

paul lemm
 

Hi Ashleigh,

 

No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly  off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone  has a similar function called screen curtain  which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life  on the phone. I really just wanted this function to  make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people  are watching out  for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 09 July 2020 07:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?

Ashleigh Piccinino



On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

The only thing i found so far with edge is the "jaws find" option.
The ctrl+f does not work in jaws 2018, instead, it brings up the "find" box in edge itself.
However, this was fixed in jaws 2020. I have jaws 2020 running in 40 minute mode.
Just in case, has anyone found a fix for this in jaws2018?

pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Thursday 9 July 2020 00:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial?

Is edge accessible now?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Edge Tutorial?

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay?
Ashleigh Piccinino


On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of  your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting  screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate  jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?

 

Paul Lemm


moderated Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting

Tom Behler
 

Mario:

Your analysis was right on.

I did control 1, and found that the date had somehow been switched to custom
format, whatever that means.

I switched it back to "date format", and now, all is well.

How things got switched to custom is a true mystery to me.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting

Tom, I'm no expert using Excel, but when you're on the cell, if you press
control+1 and then press tab, what is the formatting set to? is it different
from cells that don't muck with the date as you want it displayed?


when that happens to me, the first thing to check is the formatting.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 7:46 PM
Subject: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting Hello, everyone.

I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and have
encountered a very strange problem.

Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I put
7/08/2020 as an example.  Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good.

However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the column
entry reads 8Jul.

I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to change
the date formatting.

Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


moderated Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting

Mario
 

Tom, I'm no expert using Excel, but when you're on the cell, if you press control+1 and then press tab, what is the formatting set to? is it different from cells that don't muck with the date as you want it displayed?


when that happens to me, the first thing to check is the formatting.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 7:46 PM
Subject: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting
Hello, everyone.

I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and
have encountered a very strange problem.

Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I
put 7/08/2020 as an example.  Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good.

However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the
column entry reads 8Jul.

I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to
change the date formatting.

Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Shirley Tracy
 

Cory,

 

I’m not very technical, but I’m using Edge. I leftt Firefox because it was acting strange and crashing often. I’ve only been using Edge for a few days, but so far it has not given me any problem.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Cory McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial?

 

Is edge accessible now?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador

Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM

To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Edge Tutorial?

 

Hi, Everyone.

I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

 

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

 

Thanks,

Dani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Milton Ota
 

Hartgen Counsulting did a webinar on MS Edge and you can purchase the recording from his website.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Edge Tutorial?

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Milton Ota
 

Yes, if you are running Windows 10.

You also need to have installed the latest version and build of JAWS.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial?

Is edge accessible now?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Edge Tutorial?

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and have encountered a very strange problem.

 

Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I put 7/08/2020 as an example.  Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good.

 

However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the column entry reads 8Jul.

 

I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to change the date formatting.

 

Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

 


moderated Re: Edge Tutorial?

Cory McMahon
 

Is edge accessible now?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Edge Tutorial?

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Edge Tutorial?

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the
Microsoft Edge browser?

I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my
screenreading software.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: Edge question

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Since the purpose of these lists is to provide help to each other, and the information provided by Brian was detailed and appeared to be very helpful, I do not see the point in criticizing those who provide valuable assistance. All that does is discourage future contributions, possibly from that person or from others who might have thought of answering a question.


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Maria Campbell via groups.io [lucky1inct=gmail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge question

BS. You are not changing anything by not saying the words, because there is a difference, whether you acknowledge it or not.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...<mailto:lucky1inct@...>

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 7/7/2020 8:35 PM, David Moore wrote:

Why did you have to point out that he can see? I do not think of people being blind or sighted! I do not like it when blind people do this all of the time. I do not even think about my blindness most of the time, and I don’t think of people being blind or sighted. I don’t like labels. people need to stop doing this!

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...<mailto:lucky1inct@...>> wrote:

I insulted you by saying you are sighted and young and smart?



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...<mailto:lucky1inct@...>

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 7/7/2020 6:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Maria,

Please give up this kind of insulting rhetoric. It's entirely uncalled for.

I really don't care how old, or blind, or not tech savvy you are. That makes not the slightest bit of difference that you, like all of us, have to go with the flow of the technology stream as it goes along. You don't get to stop the world, nor do I, nor does anyone else.

Given my track record here, and on a number of blindness related forums, your statements go beyond just insulting into outrageous. I suggest you think, and a lot more deeply and carefully, before tossing out your baseless frustration at me as though that's justified. It's not, period. So stop.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss