Date   

moderated Re: Hi

Chris
 

Loud and clear!

 

 

From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: 20 August 2020 20:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hi

 

Am I coming through?

 

Pastor Gil

 


moderated Hi

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Am I coming through?

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: The List

Barbara Sheinbein
 

I used to have this problem every few months.  It was for any group list using the group.io.  I have ATT.  It was suggested to me to switch my email for the list to gmail which does not seem to have the issues other ISP have.  I did this and things have been good since.  Just a thought here.  Smile.

 

Stay safe.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: The List

 

My account keeps bouncing.

I unbounce it, but it keepps bouncing.

Is there anything I can do?

 

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil


moderated JAWS and Task scheduler on Windows Server 2016 R2?

Walker, Michael E
 

Hi,

 

What do I need to do to tab to the panes in Task scheduler where I can start and stop tasks? The tab focus wraps back around to the task scheduler library, when I try to tab to where I can start or stop a task.

 

Thanks,

Mike


moderated Test

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Test

 

Pastor Gil


moderated The List

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

My account keeps bouncing.

I unbounce it, but it keepps bouncing.

Is there anything I can do?

 

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil


moderated selecting monitor

Stan Holdeman
 

Friends: Running windows 10 and jaws 2020.

 

I have an HD monitor connected to my laptop. I want the HD monitor to be my default monitor. After a few days off for surgery, only the laptop monitor is coming up. Please remind me how I select the HD monitor. I have done it before but I can’t seem to figure it out this time.

 


Thanks, Stan

 


moderated Re: discount for federal employees?

Richard Turner
 

I believe this is correct.
If you work for a large agency that uses Jaws, you can get a home copy at a significant discount.
Your I.T. person should know about this, but calling Freedom directly is probably the best answer.
I work for a State agency, at least for another month, and that was offered to us.

I already had an SMA that would take me beyond my retirement, so I did not take them up on it.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: discount for federal employees?

Hi Dacia,

I haven't heard of this, but I think the best thing to do is call Freedom Scientific at either: 1-800-444-4443 or the U.S. Sales number at 1-866-666-6126.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dacia Cole
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discount for federal employees?

Hi,

Someone told me that there is a discount for federal employees who want to purchase JAWS or ZoomText for their personal computers? Is this true and if so, how would one go about getting this?

thanks,

Dacia


moderated Re: discount for federal employees?

Debby Hill
 

Hi Dacia,

I haven't heard of this, but I think the best thing to do is call Freedom Scientific at either: 1-800-444-4443 or the U.S. Sales number at 1-866-666-6126.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dacia Cole
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discount for federal employees?

Hi,

Someone told me that there is a discount for federal employees who want to purchase JAWS or ZoomText for their personal computers? Is this true and if so, how would one go about getting this?

thanks,

Dacia


moderated discount for federal employees?

Dacia Cole
 

Hi,

Someone told me that there is a discount for federal employees who
want to purchase JAWS or ZoomText for their personal computers? Is
this true and if so, how would one go about getting this?

thanks,

Dacia


moderated Re: Firefox Question

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Thanks Bill,

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question

 

Hi, Pastor Gil.

 

1. Open Firefox.

2. Press ALT plus T, followed by the letter O for Options.

3. Find the options categories, and arrow down to Home, and press ENTER.

4. TAB to the edit box, and paste in the URL you wish to be your home page. That's it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Question

 

Hi,

How do I set up a home start page in Firefox 79?

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Firefox Question

Bill White
 

Hi, Pastor Gil.

 

1. Open Firefox.

2. Press ALT plus T, followed by the letter O for Options.

3. Find the options categories, and arrow down to Home, and press ENTER.

4. TAB to the edit box, and paste in the URL you wish to be your home page. That's it.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Question

 

Hi,

How do I set up a home start page in Firefox 79?

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Firefox Question

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Hi,

How do I set up a home start page in Firefox 79?

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Test

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Test

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Richard,

 

I had to build a website for college purposes; but, the free hosting sites they afforded to me were inaccessible. I did some research and found:

https://www.ionos.com/websites/launch-your-website?utm_medium=service_box&utm_source=mail

I was able to register my domain for about 15bucks a year with a monthly fee of about 5bucks. Their representatives are very helpful with setup.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Web site hosting services

 

Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

David Diamond
 

I can’t comment on that.  I was just told to register my business name because lawyers will just do a fishing exposition and if your name comes up rightly or wrongly they will file a law suit. Almost like dropping a fishing net in the water and whatever it catches, so be it.  I also have business insurance to prevent liable suits.  Not sure how it would work with ones not in my field.  I know there was someone in this area who offered dog day care or walking. She moved around a lot so if someone was not happy with her service, she’d never be found because of almost living out of her van and moving from town to town. Thanks for the feedback.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: August 19, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

David,

 

Your general proposition that we need to look into a business’s reputation is good. However, I think you’re confusing two concepts. When you file a business certificate with a local office, such as a county clerk’s office, you’re only confirming that the business has a real person behind it. the way to protect against personal liability is to form a corporation. If all you’ve filed is a business certificate linking your given name to your business name, you can be sued. The case caption would be something like this:

XYZ v. Joe Soap d/b/a Bubbles Enterprises

“D/b/a” stands for “doing business as.”

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Sarah, When starting my Dog rehabilitation centre years ago.  The first thing I was told was to register my business name.  Why?  Because if you have no registered name, lawyers will just do a search and if your name comes up, whether it is you or not, they can file a suit against you. Then you have to prove it was not you that ripped off a client.  It is just a way to cover your rear end from people. I know operating a business with no license is in vogue these days, however, depending on the person wanting to hire someone, having a business name registered adds more credibility to the person operating the business.  No name and anyone can claim to be representing or even being you, treat the client unfairly and you could be on the hoof for legal costs.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: August 19, 2020 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Hi Richard,

 

You’re most welcome. My website is currently still under construction as I’ve been 100% focused on clients. I do have a body of work that you’re welcome to look at however. I am not registered as a business, yet, but plan to be within the next few months, hopefully by the end of the year.

 

For work I’ve done please check out:

www.calicats.net

www.readtheworld.net

www.dragonsofmyth.com

 

My prices are very reasonable and flexible. I’ve never worked with a state agency  as DOR of California is not currently contracting, but I look forward to the opportunity.

 

Hope this is helpful to you and your client, if you have more questions, or would like more info on anything, please do reach out.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Thank you for the offer.

Do you have a web site that explains your services and pricing?

This is through a State agency and I am just looking for resources to pass along.

Do you have a business?

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:53 AM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:

 Hi Richard, 

 

I offer hosting as part of packages available to clients. I would be more than happy to work with your client to get a website set up for him.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

 

On Aug 18, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

Adrian Spratt
 

David,

 

Your general proposition that we need to look into a business’s reputation is good. However, I think you’re confusing two concepts. When you file a business certificate with a local office, such as a county clerk’s office, you’re only confirming that the business has a real person behind it. the way to protect against personal liability is to form a corporation. If all you’ve filed is a business certificate linking your given name to your business name, you can be sued. The case caption would be something like this:

XYZ v. Joe Soap d/b/a Bubbles Enterprises

“D/b/a” stands for “doing business as.”

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Sarah, When starting my Dog rehabilitation centre years ago.  The first thing I was told was to register my business name.  Why?  Because if you have no registered name, lawyers will just do a search and if your name comes up, whether it is you or not, they can file a suit against you. Then you have to prove it was not you that ripped off a client.  It is just a way to cover your rear end from people. I know operating a business with no license is in vogue these days, however, depending on the person wanting to hire someone, having a business name registered adds more credibility to the person operating the business.  No name and anyone can claim to be representing or even being you, treat the client unfairly and you could be on the hoof for legal costs.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: August 19, 2020 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Hi Richard,

 

You’re most welcome. My website is currently still under construction as I’ve been 100% focused on clients. I do have a body of work that you’re welcome to look at however. I am not registered as a business, yet, but plan to be within the next few months, hopefully by the end of the year.

 

For work I’ve done please check out:

www.calicats.net

www.readtheworld.net

www.dragonsofmyth.com

 

My prices are very reasonable and flexible. I’ve never worked with a state agency  as DOR of California is not currently contracting, but I look forward to the opportunity.

 

Hope this is helpful to you and your client, if you have more questions, or would like more info on anything, please do reach out.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Thank you for the offer.

Do you have a web site that explains your services and pricing?

This is through a State agency and I am just looking for resources to pass along.

Do you have a business?

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:53 AM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:

 Hi Richard, 

 

I offer hosting as part of packages available to clients. I would be more than happy to work with your client to get a website set up for him.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

 

On Aug 18, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

Adrian Spratt
 

I’d suggest this is confusing the issue. In many jurisdictions, home improvement contractors need to be licensed by a city or state agency. Registration of a business name may also be required. However, not all consultants in every field are subject to these rules.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

During a wind storm and rain, our roof leaked.  Someone offered to fixed our roof but, the insurer would not except their quote because they did not have a registered business name.  Which means any fly by night agency or person can offer services but, they need to be registered with the government as a legitimate business.  Hope Richard and al can see the tie in here. Yes, GoDaddy’s accessibility has a lot to be desired, especially their feedback form.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 19, 2020 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Thanks for that.

The State Rehab department probably won’t deal with an individual so offers like the below likely won’t go anywhere since they offered no information about the services etc., anyway.

 

My question still stands, I already know Godaddy is absolutely awful for accessibility, so looking for another hosting plan, though the one I use is quite good, I would like to offer them some choices.

.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

This is in no way a slam against anyone or their services.  This is just something I noted when someone offered to help me build a website.  His spelling and grammar was so atrocious when writing me I mused if his spelling and grammar was so bad when a spell checker is readily available, was his work ethic the same poor quality? Admittedly this was after months of working with someone at an agency, then she pulled the shoot on me with no progress. She said before she left she’d help me finish it.  IMO she got fired from the job she had at that agency, just would not admit it.   Yes, I did eventually get it built in weeks, not months.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: August 19, 2020 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Hi Richard, 

 

I offer hosting as part of packages available to clients. I would be more than happy to work with your client to get a website set up for him.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

 

On Aug 18, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

David Diamond
 

During a wind storm and rain, our roof leaked.  Someone offered to fixed our roof but, the insurer would not except their quote because they did not have a registered business name.  Which means any fly by night agency or person can offer services but, they need to be registered with the government as a legitimate business.  Hope Richard and al can see the tie in here. Yes, GoDaddy’s accessibility has a lot to be desired, especially their feedback form.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: August 19, 2020 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Thanks for that.

The State Rehab department probably won’t deal with an individual so offers like the below likely won’t go anywhere since they offered no information about the services etc., anyway.

 

My question still stands, I already know Godaddy is absolutely awful for accessibility, so looking for another hosting plan, though the one I use is quite good, I would like to offer them some choices.

.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

This is in no way a slam against anyone or their services.  This is just something I noted when someone offered to help me build a website.  His spelling and grammar was so atrocious when writing me I mused if his spelling and grammar was so bad when a spell checker is readily available, was his work ethic the same poor quality? Admittedly this was after months of working with someone at an agency, then she pulled the shoot on me with no progress. She said before she left she’d help me finish it.  IMO she got fired from the job she had at that agency, just would not admit it.   Yes, I did eventually get it built in weeks, not months.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: August 19, 2020 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Hi Richard, 

 

I offer hosting as part of packages available to clients. I would be more than happy to work with your client to get a website set up for him.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

 

On Aug 18, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: Web site hosting services

Richard Turner
 

Very wise advice.

My office is going with an established company.

Thanks for all the input.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Sarah, When starting my Dog rehabilitation centre years ago.  The first thing I was told was to register my business name.  Why?  Because if you have no registered name, lawyers will just do a search and if your name comes up, whether it is you or not, they can file a suit against you. Then you have to prove it was not you that ripped off a client.  It is just a way to cover your rear end from people. I know operating a business with no license is in vogue these days, however, depending on the person wanting to hire someone, having a business name registered adds more credibility to the person operating the business.  No name and anyone can claim to be representing or even being you, treat the client unfairly and you could be on the hoof for legal costs.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: August 19, 2020 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Hi Richard,

 

You’re most welcome. My website is currently still under construction as I’ve been 100% focused on clients. I do have a body of work that you’re welcome to look at however. I am not registered as a business, yet, but plan to be within the next few months, hopefully by the end of the year.

 

For work I’ve done please check out:

www.calicats.net

www.readtheworld.net

www.dragonsofmyth.com

 

My prices are very reasonable and flexible. I’ve never worked with a state agency  as DOR of California is not currently contracting, but I look forward to the opportunity.

 

Hope this is helpful to you and your client, if you have more questions, or would like more info on anything, please do reach out.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web site hosting services

 

Thank you for the offer.

Do you have a web site that explains your services and pricing?

This is through a State agency and I am just looking for resources to pass along.

Do you have a business?

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Aug 19, 2020, at 12:53 AM, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@...> wrote:

 Hi Richard, 

 

I offer hosting as part of packages available to clients. I would be more than happy to work with your client to get a website set up for him.

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

 

On Aug 18, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



Hello,

I have a client who needs to set up a web site with a store on it for his business.

He uses Jaws latest version and Windows 10.

I use a pretty easy service, IXWebHosting but have never looked at setting up a store.

 

What hosting services are people using that work well with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert