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moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     After you go into your basics dialogue, tab to and press spacebar on “Automatically start JAWS…” You will hear some things in here, but the one you want is, “start JAWS after this user.” This is a combo box, and it should be at “always.” If it is not, arrow to it as there are a couple more things in the combo box, never and with all users settings. After that, press enter and you should be okay. It’s a lot faster than finding it in the Startup wizard although that’s another “how-to” for this issue. Please let me know directly if this helps. My e-mail is apiccinino@....

Thank you,

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 10:56:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in
 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

James Malone
 

Hi CathyAnne,

Is your update to Office 2016 training books for sell?

Best:

James Malone

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

You can group worksheets that are next to on another with a keyboard command:

  • Focus on the First worksheet you’d like to group
  • Press CTRL-SHIFT-PAGE DOWN to group the next worksheet
  • Press CTRL-SHIFT-PAGE UP to group the previous worksheet

 

After focusing on the last worksheet you’d like to group, you’re done! The worksheets are grouped.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

Hi guys,

 

Yes, you are all correct; however, if you want to make global changes such as, adding a heading, footnote, format change to all your worksheets by changing one sheet in the workbook is the concept I am talking about. I have no issues with linking a cell reference from one sheet to another. It is the global changes. If you Google, "grouping excel worksheets," you will see exactly what I am concern about. sorry for the mix-up in communication.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 1:23 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

 

Yes, if a value referenced in a formula is moved to another cell, then the formula is automatically updated to the new location.

One note, when moving the value, use cut and paste, or it will not work.

 

Chris

 

 

> On May 10, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

> when using formulas as talked about here, can the following still be used:

> =income!$d$4

> meaning the linking to the value in d4 will still be referenced even

> if the value has moved to d9 or e5?

> -------- Original Message --------

> From: Paul Hunt [mailto:prhunt1@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:08 PM EST

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Grouping worksheets 2016

> Hello. The correct term is Linking.

> I have a budget workbook with an income worksheet, a cash flow

> worksheet and an allocated spending plan worksheet.

> When my income changes in my income worksheet, it changes on my cash

> flow plan and allocated spending plan worksheet.

> Here is how it works.

>   Cell B7 on my income worksheet contains my income.

> I need my income to be in cell c46 of my cash flow worksheet so I

> enter the formula =income!b7 in cell c46.

> I also need my income to be in cell d3 of myallocated spending plan

> worksheet so I enter the formula =income!b7 in cell d3.

> I hope that this helps.

> Paul

> On May 9, 2018, at 8:14 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> What I mean is, when you make a change to one worksheet it affects all

> the worksheets in the given work sheet group or grouping sheets to

> make global changes in the workbook.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne

> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:11 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

> I'm not sure what you mean by grouping worksheets.  Yu can rename and

> reorder than using alt+h, then o, then r to rename and alt+h, then o,

> then

m

> to move them.

> At 06:40 PM 5/9/2018, you wrote:

> Hello fellow listerrs,

> Does anyone has an easier way to group work sheets. I'm trying to make

> monthly workbook and I want to group all the months. Any help

> appreciated.

> .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

andy.tidwell
 

Hello, I have to check both boxes and if I don't jaws will act crazy but it runs correctly if I check them both so go figure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Using an HP desktop with fast start up enabled. When I had it disabled JAWS
was often not responsive at log on and did not help situation at desktop.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Turning off fast startup may have an effect on Jaws speaking at the login
screen, but it should not affect Jaws starting once you put in your password
or PIN and the desktop loads. In what way did turning this off make things
worse, this is something I have never heard, it just means Windows doesn't
save certain things when it shuts down and in fact loading Windows from
scratch usually is always a better option. In any case, this also presumes
that this is on a laptop since I have never seen the fast startup ooption on
any of my desktops, only on my laptop.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Tried that and it made things worse for me so I had to restore it but that
may be a solution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Richard,

I had the same problem. Jaws was not speaking at boot time after updating
windows.
The solution was to turn off fast boot. Tis was turned on by the windows
update.
Go to Control Panel
Power Options
Choose what the power buttons do
and (Untick) fast boot.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:16:00 +0000 "Richard Turner"
<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to
1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard




"The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter."

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<sieghard@live.ca<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don't usually check the "Start
Jaws
after logon for all users" since if you set the "for this user" to always
that should suffice.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Hi, Stan. Here's how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS
Automatically. Probably all of these don't necessarily need to be set the
same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for
what it's worth, here's my settings. If you don't have them set this way,
you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box Always

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open
automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it
is not running after I have logged in. I really don't need or want to load
before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

Appreciate your help.

Stan















Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Dan Longmore
 

Using an HP desktop with fast start up enabled. When I had it disabled JAWS
was often not responsive at log on and did not help situation at desktop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Turning off fast startup may have an effect on Jaws speaking at the login
screen, but it should not affect Jaws starting once you put in your password
or PIN and the desktop loads. In what way did turning this off make things
worse, this is something I have never heard, it just means Windows doesn't
save certain things when it shuts down and in fact loading Windows from
scratch usually is always a better option. In any case, this also presumes
that this is on a laptop since I have never seen the fast startup ooption on
any of my desktops, only on my laptop.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Tried that and it made things worse for me so I had to restore it but that
may be a solution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Richard,

I had the same problem. Jaws was not speaking at boot time after updating
windows.
The solution was to turn off fast boot. Tis was turned on by the windows
update.
Go to Control Panel
Power Options
Choose what the power buttons do
and (Untick) fast boot.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:16:00 +0000 "Richard Turner"
<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to
1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard




"The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter."

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<sieghard@live.ca<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don't usually check the "Start
Jaws
after logon for all users" since if you set the "for this user" to always
that should suffice.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Hi, Stan. Here's how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS
Automatically. Probably all of these don't necessarily need to be set the
same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for
what it's worth, here's my settings. If you don't have them set this way,
you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box Always

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open
automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it
is not running after I have logged in. I really don't need or want to load
before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

Appreciate your help.

Stan


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Turning off fast startup may have an effect on Jaws speaking at the login screen, but it should not affect Jaws starting once you put in your password or PIN and the desktop loads. In what way did turning this off make things worse, this is something I have never heard, it just means Windows doesn't save certain things when it shuts down and in fact loading Windows from scratch usually is always a better option. In any case, this also presumes that this is on a laptop since I have never seen the fast startup ooption on any of my desktops, only on my laptop.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Tried that and it made things worse for me so I had to restore it but that may be a solution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Richard,

I had the same problem. Jaws was not speaking at boot time after updating windows.
The solution was to turn off fast boot. Tis was turned on by the windows update.
Go to Control Panel
Power Options
Choose what the power buttons do
and (Untick) fast boot.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:16:00 +0000 "Richard Turner"
<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to
1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard




"The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter."

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<sieghard@live.ca<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don't usually check the "Start
Jaws
after logon for all users" since if you set the "for this user" to always that should suffice.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Hi, Stan. Here's how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS
Automatically. Probably all of these don't necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it's worth, here's my settings. If you don't have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box Always

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open
automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don't need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

Appreciate your help.

Stan


moderated Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

HH. Smith Jr.
 

CathyAnne,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

You can group worksheets that are next to on another with a keyboard command:

  • Focus on the First worksheet you’d like to group
  • Press CTRL-SHIFT-PAGE DOWN to group the next worksheet
  • Press CTRL-SHIFT-PAGE UP to group the previous worksheet

 

After focusing on the last worksheet you’d like to group, you’re done! The worksheets are grouped.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

Hi guys,

 

Yes, you are all correct; however, if you want to make global changes such as, adding a heading, footnote, format change to all your worksheets by changing one sheet in the workbook is the concept I am talking about. I have no issues with linking a cell reference from one sheet to another. It is the global changes. If you Google, "grouping excel worksheets," you will see exactly what I am concern about. sorry for the mix-up in communication.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin

Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 1:23 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

 

 

Yes, if a value referenced in a formula is moved to another cell, then the formula is automatically updated to the new location.

One note, when moving the value, use cut and paste, or it will not work.

 

Chris

 

 

> On May 10, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

> when using formulas as talked about here, can the following still be used:

> =income!$d$4

> meaning the linking to the value in d4 will still be referenced even

> if the value has moved to d9 or e5?

> -------- Original Message --------

> From: Paul Hunt [mailto:prhunt1@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:08 PM EST

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Grouping worksheets 2016

> Hello. The correct term is Linking.

> I have a budget workbook with an income worksheet, a cash flow

> worksheet and an allocated spending plan worksheet.

> When my income changes in my income worksheet, it changes on my cash

> flow plan and allocated spending plan worksheet.

> Here is how it works.

>   Cell B7 on my income worksheet contains my income.

> I need my income to be in cell c46 of my cash flow worksheet so I

> enter the formula =income!b7 in cell c46.

> I also need my income to be in cell d3 of myallocated spending plan

> worksheet so I enter the formula =income!b7 in cell d3.

> I hope that this helps.

> Paul

> On May 9, 2018, at 8:14 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> What I mean is, when you make a change to one worksheet it affects all

> the worksheets in the given work sheet group or grouping sheets to

> make global changes in the workbook.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne

> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 8:11 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Grouping worksheets 2016

> I'm not sure what you mean by grouping worksheets.  Yu can rename and

> reorder than using alt+h, then o, then r to rename and alt+h, then o,

> then

m

> to move them.

> At 06:40 PM 5/9/2018, you wrote:

> Hello fellow listerrs,

> Does anyone has an easier way to group work sheets. I'm trying to make

> monthly workbook and I want to group all the months. Any help

> appreciated.

> .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Dan Longmore
 

Tried that and it made things worse for me so I had to restore it but that
may be a solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post
Uiterweer
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Richard,

I had the same problem. Jaws was not speaking at boot time after updating
windows.
The solution was to turn off fast boot. Tis was turned on by the windows
update.
Go to Control Panel
Power Options
Choose what the power buttons do
and (Untick) fast boot.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:16:00 +0000 "Richard Turner"
<richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to
1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard




"The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter."

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
<sieghard@live.ca<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don't usually check the "Start Jaws
after logon for all users" since if you set the "for this user" to always
that should suffice.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Hi, Stan. Here's how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS
Automatically. Probably all of these don't necessarily need to be set the
same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for
what it's worth, here's my settings. If you don't have them set this way,
you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box Always

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open
automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it
is not running after I have logged in. I really don't need or want to load
before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

Appreciate your help.

Stan


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Richard,

I had the same problem. Jaws was not speaking at boot time after
updating windows.
The solution was to turn off fast boot. Tis was turned on by the windows
update.
Go to Control Panel
Power Options
Choose what the power buttons do
and (Untick) fast boot.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:16:00 +0000 "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to 1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca<mailto:sieghard@live.ca>> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.


From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box
Always

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

Appreciate your help.

Stan


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, I have experienced this issue at times as well.  Actually , when JAWS does not start I revert to Narrator and then manually start JAWS.  Issue is sporadic and like other issues FS tech support has little to offer except to run a repair. 

I am so disgusted with FS.  It is so sad that they have monopolized the market that there is no other major player to give them a run for their money.  Although NVDA and other freeware is gaining ground.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Very strange, Richard, yours and the other person’s report about this is the first I hear about it and I’m also part of the Jaws Beta where some people have been running the Insider/Beta builds of 1803 for a while. I myself have upgraded 5 computers (of 3 different makes and 5 different models with 1803 and have no issues with Jaws not speaking after logon.

On the other hand on one of my work PC’s Jaws or Windows or whichever decided not to read the start menu or the content of the Settings app any more, I can go to Settings and it will say “System” as I tab into it from the search box, but then as I arrow around the highlight moves but Jaws is utterly silent. If I down arrow twice and press enter it does open “Personalisation” or if I press End and enter it goes into Update and Security, but once there and I tab it again reads/speaks nothing and the same happens in the start menu, visually it’s there but Jaws speaks nothing.

It must be a weird glitch which wasn’t there after I first installed Windows 10 on that PC, but it persisted through several Jaws updates, I have uninstalled Jaws including shared components and user settings several times and even the Windows 1803 upgrade did not fix this. I am still talking to FS elevated support, but I have a feeling that nothing short of a complete reset or new installation of Windows would solve this and that is difficult since this PC happens to be our main register PC at my store and getting it all set up again is a major headache and would require my payment provider to connect and install their plugin to my point of sale software etc. It is however mostly a Jaws issue since if I unload Jaws and start Narrator it reads the Settings and start menu just fine. For now this is my work-around, I am not using that PC all that much anyways and if I use it then I don’t usually need the start menu and Jaws does work in the old control panel where I can access most things as well.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

 

I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to 1803, JAWS never talks after logon.

I have to manually start JAWS.

I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Very strange, Richard, yours and the other person’s report about this is the first I hear about it and I’m also part of the Jaws Beta where some people have been running the Insider/Beta builds of 1803 for a while. I myself have upgraded 5 computers (of 3 different makes and 5 different models with 1803 and have no issues with Jaws not speaking after logon.

On the other hand on one of my work PC’s Jaws or Windows or whichever decided not to read the start menu or the content of the Settings app any more, I can go to Settings and it will say “System” as I tab into it from the search box, but then as I arrow around the highlight moves but Jaws is utterly silent. If I down arrow twice and press enter it does open “Personalisation” or if I press End and enter it goes into Update and Security, but once there and I tab it again reads/speaks nothing and the same happens in the start menu, visually it’s there but Jaws speaks nothing.

It must be a weird glitch which wasn’t there after I first installed Windows 10 on that PC, but it persisted through several Jaws updates, I have uninstalled Jaws including shared components and user settings several times and even the Windows 1803 upgrade did not fix this. I am still talking to FS elevated support, but I have a feeling that nothing short of a complete reset or new installation of Windows would solve this and that is difficult since this PC happens to be our main register PC at my store and getting it all set up again is a major headache and would require my payment provider to connect and install their plugin to my point of sale software etc. It is however mostly a Jaws issue since if I unload Jaws and start Narrator it reads the Settings and start menu just fine. For now this is my work-around, I am not using that PC all that much anyways and if I use it then I don’t usually need the start menu and Jaws does work in the old control panel where I can access most things as well.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

 

I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to 1803, JAWS never talks after logon.

I have to manually start JAWS.

I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Richard Turner
 


I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to 1803, JAWS never talks after logon.
I have to manually start JAWS.
I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: Need help downloading to my computer and transferring BARD books to Victor TREK using JAWS

Christopher Zeigler
 

Hello here is another way you can download books onto the Victor reader Trek
1 turn your device on
2 make sure you're connected to your Wi-Fi network then press key 7 which is your number 7 until you hear analyst Bart or online services does not show up when hitting the number 7 then login by typing your email address in and your password once that's done you can search the Collection directly from the Victor reader stream or the trick
I hope this helps and have a wonderful day
Chris


On Wed, May 9, 2018, 5:01 PM Shirley Tracy <stracy5@...> wrote:

                I want to thank all of you who graciously responded to my plea. However, I figured it out, thanks to a few recommendations on this list. I re-read the user manual for the Victor Trek, and downloaded the books directly from BARD to the player. Bypassed my computer. But I can tie this message in with JAWS, because had it not been for the JAWS group, I would never have known to do it. Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Brenda Emerson-Alford
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help downloading to my computer and transferring BARD books to Victor TREK using JAWS

 

Hello Shirley,

 

I do this all the time.  I will go to BARD and download several books to my computer into a Books Download folder which I created.  Later I will transfer them to my Victor Reader.  I have both the older version and the newer version of Victor Reader.  What you need is the Humanware Companion software on your computer.  You can find it on their website.

 

You can either download directly to the Victor reader with your cord or what I do is pull out my HDSD card.  I put in a higher memory card when I bought my machine so I could download more books.  It is just a matter of pulling your HDSD card out of the Victor Reader and inserting it in your computer when you have the Humanware Companion App open.  It is fairly simple to figure out what to do by playing around with the menu but there is also a good set of directions on their website.  I use the Victor Reader a lot because my phone runs down quick enough without using it to read books all the time.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need help downloading to my computer and transferring BARD books to Victor TREK using JAWS

 

Hi list,

 

Using Windows 10, do I need an app to unzip books that I download from BARD before transferring them into the Victor Trek from Humanware. I generally read books in my iPhone, but I’m taking a 5 hour plane trip, and I want to have something to do on the long flight and still save my phone battery.

 

If I need an app to unzip, which one will JAWS work well with?

 

Thanks for your help.  

 

 


moderated Re: Don't understand IE Download viewer

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thank you, Cathyanne.  Not sure why I did not think to try the context key.  This was way more complete of an explanation than I expected and very much appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Don't understand IE Download viewer

 

The Download Manager of internet Explorer is pretty simple.

 

You can open it at any time from within internet Explorer with CTRL-J.

 

Once focused in the download manager focus is on the download list

 

  • Navigate among downloads with UP and DOWN ARROW
  • Once focused on a download, open the Windows Application Menu (WINDOWS APPLICATION KEY or SHIFT-F10)
  • Within the Windows Application Menu are options to manage the download:
    • Delete File
    • Copy Download Link
    • Go to Download Webpage
    • Open Containing Folder
    • Report that this file is unsafe
    • Rerun security checks on this file
    • There may be additional options available depending upon the type of download

 

To open a document:

  • Activate the “Open Containing Folder” option
  • File Explorer opens with focus on the document
  • Press ENTER to open the document in its associated application

 

You can also press RIGHT ARROW until focus is on the “Open” button and press ENTER to open the document.

 

The dialog has a search field:

  • Press CTRL-E at any time to focus in the search field
  • Type a text string
  • The download list refreshes to show only documents that match the search term

 

To clear the search:

  • Focus in the search field (CTRL-E)
  • Tap ESCAPE to clear the contents

 

You can clear the download list by activating the “Clear List” button of the dialog.  This clears the list but doesn’t delete the downloaded documents. They are still in your downloads folder.

 

Close the Download manager with ESCAPE

 

I hope this  basic explanation helps.

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:38 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Don't understand IE Download viewer

 

Hi,

Lately, I have had several instances where I get an email receipt of an purchase made for an audio book or PDF book.  The email contains a link that, when clicked, seems to open a the download manager tool in Internet Explorer.  I have now also failed in understanding how to navigate this so that I can download my file.  I am quite comfortable downloading a file directly from a webpage, but this acts different and I have maxed out my downloads in a couple instances. 

 

Can some kind person explain the concept here?  Obviously clicking on the link triggers the website to think that I have downloaded it, as it’s counting my failed attempts, but it’s not automatically downloading into my downloads folder, so I must be missing steps.  All I know is that I can hit Control J from within IE to open a viewer of some sort, but I’m struggling from there. 

 

Robin

 



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moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated start jaws automatically after log in

Stan Holdeman
 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

David Bailes
 

Hi Sharon,
It works with or without spaces, but the word before the colon is doc (three letters), not docx. It's an abbreviation for documents. You can in fact use any of the following: doc, docs, document or documents. But doc is the shortest to type!

David.

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 07:20 am, Sharon wrote:

So should it look like this?

 

Docx: fudge

Or docx:fudge

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi Sharon,
The start menu does seem to be a bit too keen to give internet results. But it's ok if you filter the results. An alternative to the method I've already given for filtering for documents is instead of just typing in your search terms, type the three letter word doc, followed by a colon, followed by your search terms.

David.

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 06:16 am, Sharon wrote:

But if that is true, why can I only get internet results from the start menu, while I can get files at least words in the names from windows explorer in Windows 10?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
If you're using File Explorer in Windows 10 to search for files, then it behaves roughly the same way as Windows Explorer in Windows 7.
However, if you're using the Start menu to search, there is a difference. In Windows 7, then the contents of files was automatically included in the search. But in Windows 10, the contents are not automatically included. However, as I outlined in a previous post, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are included.
If you're still having problems, please state whether you're using File Explorer or the Start menu to search, and some information about where the files are that you're trying to find. For example, are they in your Documents folder, or on an external drive.

David.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:49 pm, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

Ican still find content in 7 as well

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

I'm using W7 and can still find files based on it's content, and the more content that is used the better a match will result. don't know about W10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi, David. I believe what John is asking is if there is a way to search for files in Windows 10 based on words contained inside files. This used to be possible in Windows XP, and I believe it is one thing we cannot now do since Windows 7. I miss this feature. I used to have a folder of recipes, and I could, for example, search for any of those text files that contain the word pistachio. This was nice, because it made it easy to find anything on the drive. It also used to be easier to change which drive was searched.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files.
However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:
How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.
Thank you.

 

 


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Sharon
 

So should it look like this?

 

Docx: fudge

Or docx:fudge

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi Sharon,
The start menu does seem to be a bit too keen to give internet results. But it's ok if you filter the results. An alternative to the method I've already given for filtering for documents is instead of just typing in your search terms, type the three letter word doc, followed by a colon, followed by your search terms.

David.

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 06:16 am, Sharon wrote:

But if that is true, why can I only get internet results from the start menu, while I can get files at least words in the names from windows explorer in Windows 10?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
If you're using File Explorer in Windows 10 to search for files, then it behaves roughly the same way as Windows Explorer in Windows 7.
However, if you're using the Start menu to search, there is a difference. In Windows 7, then the contents of files was automatically included in the search. But in Windows 10, the contents are not automatically included. However, as I outlined in a previous post, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are included.
If you're still having problems, please state whether you're using File Explorer or the Start menu to search, and some information about where the files are that you're trying to find. For example, are they in your Documents folder, or on an external drive.

David.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:49 pm, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

Ican still find content in 7 as well

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

I'm using W7 and can still find files based on it's content, and the more content that is used the better a match will result. don't know about W10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi, David. I believe what John is asking is if there is a way to search for files in Windows 10 based on words contained inside files. This used to be possible in Windows XP, and I believe it is one thing we cannot now do since Windows 7. I miss this feature. I used to have a folder of recipes, and I could, for example, search for any of those text files that contain the word pistachio. This was nice, because it made it easy to find anything on the drive. It also used to be easier to change which drive was searched.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files.
However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:
How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.
Thank you.

 


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

David Bailes
 

Hi Sharon,
The start menu does seem to be a bit too keen to give internet results. But it's ok if you filter the results. An alternative to the method I've already given for filtering for documents is instead of just typing in your search terms, type the three letter word doc, followed by a colon, followed by your search terms.

David.


On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 06:16 am, Sharon wrote:

But if that is true, why can I only get internet results from the start menu, while I can get files at least words in the names from windows explorer in Windows 10?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
If you're using File Explorer in Windows 10 to search for files, then it behaves roughly the same way as Windows Explorer in Windows 7.
However, if you're using the Start menu to search, there is a difference. In Windows 7, then the contents of files was automatically included in the search. But in Windows 10, the contents are not automatically included. However, as I outlined in a previous post, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are included.
If you're still having problems, please state whether you're using File Explorer or the Start menu to search, and some information about where the files are that you're trying to find. For example, are they in your Documents folder, or on an external drive.

David.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:49 pm, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

Ican still find content in 7 as well

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

I'm using W7 and can still find files based on it's content, and the more content that is used the better a match will result. don't know about W10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi, David. I believe what John is asking is if there is a way to search for files in Windows 10 based on words contained inside files. This used to be possible in Windows XP, and I believe it is one thing we cannot now do since Windows 7. I miss this feature. I used to have a folder of recipes, and I could, for example, search for any of those text files that contain the word pistachio. This was nice, because it made it easy to find anything on the drive. It also used to be easier to change which drive was searched.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files.
However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:
How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.
Thank you.

 


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Sharon
 

But if that is true, why can I only get internet results from the start menu, while I can get files at least words in the names from windows explorer in Windows 10?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
If you're using File Explorer in Windows 10 to search for files, then it behaves roughly the same way as Windows Explorer in Windows 7.
However, if you're using the Start menu to search, there is a difference. In Windows 7, then the contents of files was automatically included in the search. But in Windows 10, the contents are not automatically included. However, as I outlined in a previous post, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are included.
If you're still having problems, please state whether you're using File Explorer or the Start menu to search, and some information about where the files are that you're trying to find. For example, are they in your Documents folder, or on an external drive.

David.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:49 pm, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

Ican still find content in 7 as well

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

I'm using W7 and can still find files based on it's content, and the more content that is used the better a match will result. don't know about W10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi, David. I believe what John is asking is if there is a way to search for files in Windows 10 based on words contained inside files. This used to be possible in Windows XP, and I believe it is one thing we cannot now do since Windows 7. I miss this feature. I used to have a folder of recipes, and I could, for example, search for any of those text files that contain the word pistachio. This was nice, because it made it easy to find anything on the drive. It also used to be easier to change which drive was searched.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files.
However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:
How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.
Thank you.