Re: skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions
Tim Ford
How do I get the Windows 10 Skype app on my computer? I just installed and am using Skype 8.25. I do not like it, but I can get it to work.
Below are keyboard commands for 8.25 that Microsoft gave me.
Windows Skype desktop Hotkey Ctrl + I Open Notification panel Ctrl + , (Ctrl + comma) Open app settings Ctrl + H Open Help in default browser Ctrl + D Launch main dial pad Ctrl + N Start new conversation Ctrl + G New group Ctrl + F Search for all contacts, messages and bots Ctrl + Shift + S Search within selected message Alt + 1 Not applicable Navigate to recent chats Alt + 2 Open contacts Alt + 3 Open contact screen to bots Ctrl + O Send feedback Ctrl + R Refresh the app Ctrl + T Open themes Ctrl + Shift + T Toggle between light and dark mode Use Alt + V to bring up the View menu to zoom in, out, or return to actual size Ctrl + Shift + = to zoom in Ctrl + - to zoom out Ctrl + 0 for actual size Use the View button to zoom in, out, or return to actual size Ctrl + P Show conversation profile Ctrl + Shift + A Add people to conversation Ctrl + Shift + U Mark as unread Ctrl + Shift + K Start a video call Ctrl + Shift + P Start an audio call Ctrl + Shift + F Send a file Enter Return Start a PSTN call Ctrl + Shift + G Open gallery Ctrl + S Take a snapshot Ctrl + E Hang up Ctrl + M Toggle mute Down Arrow Select the next message in the chat list Up Arrow Select the previous message in the chat list [end]
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions
Hi Marvin and all! I agree on using the Win10 Skype app. It is so very simple to use, even when tabbing to what you want. It is much less confusing to me than Skype 8.25. Have a great one, guys! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Hi. using windows 10 64 bit pro 1803 and got jaws 2018, latest July update. And well found skype 8.25 a bit confusing and also it did not port over one contact which was my second brother, but it does in the windows 10 universal app. Find it a much cleaner interface, not sure about voicemail, forwarding, as don’t do that, I am on a skype group with a whole bunch of sighted students doing a interactive gaming and digital media course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au, and also the skype 8.25 scripts did install, but did not load, and so got the scripts for the universal app, but just the default scripts. I would stick to thewindows 10 universal app, much easier for me. Just my two cents worth. And got it from the Microsoft store in Australia. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia.
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Re: skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions
David Moore
Hi Marvin and all! I agree on using the Win10 Skype app. It is so very simple to use, even when tabbing to what you want. It is much less confusing to me than Skype 8.25. Have a great one, guys! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 8:42 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions
Hi. using windows 10 64 bit pro 1803 and got jaws 2018, latest July update. And well found skype 8.25 a bit confusing and also it did not port over one contact which was my second brother, but it does in the windows 10 universal app. Find it a much cleaner interface, not sure about voicemail, forwarding, as don’t do that, I am on a skype group with a whole bunch of sighted students doing a interactive gaming and digital media course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au, and also the skype 8.25 scripts did install, but did not load, and so got the scripts for the universal app, but just the default scripts. I would stick to thewindows 10 universal app, much easier for me. Just my two cents worth. And got it from the Microsoft store in Australia. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Don H
I did a google as well as a you tube search for creating a startup and shutdown sound and there were numerous solutions. Some of the methods might not be easy for a screen reader user but if you want it maybe have some sighted help.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Mario
in the meantime, it would be appreciated, I think by most blind and/or
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sighted users, to send feedback to Microsoft pleeding that the familiar Windows 7 shutdown sound be reenabled and that any wav file can be assigned as it was possible with earlier versions of Windows, i.e. via the sounds applett of the control panel. there might be a chance MS would consider it if there were compelling reasons such as for blind users who choose to completely shutdown their system and are using a laptop (or desktop) that does not have any means of testing to see if the system is truely shutdown. the more the reasons that are reasonable, the better the chance MS might do it. no?
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From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@att.net] Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 7:35 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 yup, me too. I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more". But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10 to at least use it without too much of an issue. We shall see about that. On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote: So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound. Pastor Gil -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM To: JFW <jfw@groups.io> Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance. .
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Angel
Also, my computers fan makes a sound. When I can not feel the air coming from the fan, I know the computer has shut down.
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From: "Maria Campbell" <lucky1inct@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:33 PM Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place.
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skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions
Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
Hi. using windows 10 64 bit pro 1803 and got jaws 2018, latest July update. And well found skype 8.25 a bit confusing and also it did not port over one contact which was my second brother, but it does in the windows 10 universal app. Find it a much cleaner interface, not sure about voicemail, forwarding, as don’t do that, I am on a skype group with a whole bunch of sighted students doing a interactive gaming and digital media course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au, and also the skype 8.25 scripts did install, but did not load, and so got the scripts for the universal app, but just the default scripts. I would stick to thewindows 10 universal app, much easier for me. Just my two cents worth. And got it from the Microsoft store in Australia. Marvin from Adelaide, Australia.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
I can hear the fan turn off.
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Pastor Gil
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound. Pastor Gil -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM To: JFW <jfw@groups.io> Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
cecropia64
Another way is to see if the lights on the machine go out. I have a usb hub that has extremely bright lights. I can tell if the computer is off when the lights go out. I know that this won't help everybody but for those of you who have enough sight to see lights, it may be helpful.
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Stew
On 7/30/2018 6:56 PM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
You can also listen for the fans to stop, at least in a tower
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
cecropia64
yup, me too. I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more". But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10 to at least use it without too much of an issue. We shall see about that.
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On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
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Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback
Cristóbal
Hello list, So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter. Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up. I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least. More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time. This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards. One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience. IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality. It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Alan Robbins
You can also listen for the fans to stop, at least in a tower
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Al
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Related to Maria's trick is just using a jump drive or SD card.
If you plug in or pull either of the above you will typically get a system sound telling you that it's either connected and ready for use or that it (or some other) USB device has been removed. If you yank a jump drive after doing a shutdown, and after waiting at least a reasonable amount of time for a shutdown to complete, you should be pretty safe in assuming that you are shut down if you don't get an auditory signal related to removing a USB device. I have bent over backwards trying to find a consistent way to trigger a shutdown sound, but have not as yet found it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. ~ Dorothy Nevill
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
I have a new Del laptop that doesn't have a CD player. This won't work.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Maria Campbell
There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place.
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Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis
On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Gerald Levy
So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.
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Gerald
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From: Pastor Gil Pries Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10 With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound. Pastor Gil -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM To: JFW <jfw@groups.io> Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Mario
as I understand, Microsoft has disabled the ability to enable such a
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sound, and many sighted users have tried rather involved methods but none of the attempts have seemed to work reliably. but, if some smart and savvy dude out there knows how to enable it, please do post how with complete and concise steps.
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From: Teresa [mailto:pennylain5@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 4:56 PM EST To: JFW Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance. .
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Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM To: JFW <jfw@groups.io> Subject: shut down sound for windows 10 good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.
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shut down sound for windows 10
Teresa
good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.
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Re: Firefox and JFW 15
Richard Turner
If the person is truly sticking to Jaws 15, he probably also needs to stick with Windows 7, if that is even possible.
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Perhaps he needs to call VFO and see if he can update for less than an arm and a leg.
Even if Jaws 16 kind of works, it is not going to provide a very good experience.
Just my two cents,
Richard
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain
On Jul 29, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
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Re: Firefox and JFW 15
If it is indeed Windows 10 and the latest 1803 update I don't think Jaws 16 supports this any more at least not very well.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 7:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox and JFW 15 There is a 64 bit version of jaws 16. On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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