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Re: Winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Regarding Winamp, why not use the hotkeys feature to control Winamp while the window is not in focus? That is, switch over to the explorer window containing the audio files then press enter to play the file in Winamp. If one wishes to play, pause, or stop the track, use the respective Winamp hotkey.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

Hi, Nino. You can't have both the Winamp screen and the folder where the mp3 files are both in the foreground. You can, however ALT TAB between the Winamp screen and the folder where the mp3 files are located.

I'll try to call you in a while, and see if I'm missing something.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

Hi:

When I use winamp I have to alt tab to get to the winamp screen.

I was hoping to stay in the folder where the mp3 files are.

Thank you.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

If your system is s not doing that automatically, exactly what is it doing?


On 8/15/2018 11:17 AM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
Good morning:

If I open a list of mp3s to play and when I open one of the files I
would like winamp or what program I am using to com up to the forground.

Is it possibil to do that?

Thank you.


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Well, I don’t want to get into any sort of typical, heated user list discussions, but I asked for examples (plural). You gave me one. I don’t doubt your claim, I’m just saying fast boot may not be the cause of many issues people are experiencing since operating systems are complex. Of course I’ve not explored any of these individual’s computers, but I am a former tech and understand the subtleties of individual computers and how the operating system is supposed to perform for all users. I can also run a Google search on the Pope and find problems with him, suggesting Google searches for X, Y, and Z is not how one presents a good argument—too early for me to recall the name of this logical fallacy. . J  

 

All I can do is provide my opinion and desire to help, but sometimes discussions get out of hand, so please forgive me for walking away from a discussion which may end as such. J

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Jeremy,

          You asked for an example, I gave you an example.  Spend approximately 30 seconds on a web search on "Windows 10 Fast Startup Problems" and the results you'll get and you'll realize this is far from an isolated incident.   And, by the way, Fast Startup is implemented the same in both OSes and, as I said before, the issues can come from something causing corruption in the hibernation file, and that does happen.  It's no different than the myriad problems that can creep in to web browsers via cache corruption that "magically disappear" if one simply purges cache.  The hibernation file is "OS Cache," and it can get screwed up completely independently of an OS that's perfectly fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Tom Babinszki
 

Thanks, I didn't know this feature.
So, same thing, practically nothing.
Let me describe further what is happening.
I press enter on an excel file from any folder, any file.
As it is loading, it may read the current cell. During the load, if I react
quickly, I can press arrow keys and I move to a different cell.
It appears after the Excel scripts are loading is when the problem starts.
At this point, when I press any of the arrow keys, nothing is happening.
I even tried pass key through, same thing.
The reason why I know nothing is happening is because I can use JAWS-Tab to
read the current cell.
Now when I press Control-home or control-end, I hear first cell, or last
cell, but the current cell content doesn't change.
Especially because of the pass key through results, I thought I had an
excel, and not a JAWS problem.
Now when I turn JAWS off and start Narrator or NVDA, I can see that my arrow
or any other navigation indeed did not take place. But from now on, with
another screen reader, everything works just fine.
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi Tom,

What does JAWS in default mode tell you? In other words, press
Insert+spacebar then the letter Z to make JAWS perform as if you just
installed it. Try this then launch Excel and see what happens.

By the way, for those whom have not used this feature, using the JAWS
default mode is a very good way to begin troubleshooting before deleting
files and performing all kinds of odd procedures. This mode makes JAWS
behave as it is freshly installed. This can help one determine if it is JAWS
acting up or some other Windows setting. For many cases, this will rule out
JAWS as the culprit.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

In the meantime, I found that I have many different JAWs installs, settings,
etc.
I cleaned up everything, currently all I'm running is JAWS 2018, latest
update, out of the box.
Now the excel files are identical between Windows 7 and 10, still same
problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi tom,

Since this Surface Pro is a new computer, are you certain it is on desktop
mode and not tablet mode? To check try this...

1. use the Start menu search box to look for the following:
Tablet mode settings

2. After opening tablet mode settings, the following is the very first item
you should land on:
When I sign in Combo box: Use X mode
Note: X stands for the various options in this combo box.

I should note that when I first purchased my Windows 10 tablet, it was
originally set to Tablet mode, and I had to use the arrow keys to change
this setting so my tablet would behave more like a desktop than a tablet.

I also want to add that on these lists individuals quickly throw around the
idea of performing a JAWS repair, but this isn't always necessary. In many
cases, users make lots of customizations to JAWS, and when a JAWS repair is
performed, these customizations are undone, which means setting up JAWS once
again--this takes time and effort. :)

Please let me know if my suggestion above helped in any way, and we'll take
it from there. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi,
My name is Tom Babinszki, I just joined the list.
I have an interesting Excel reading problem.
I just got a Surface Pro running Windows 10 Pro.
I am not able to navigate excel sheets. When I press a cursor key, nothing
happens. There are two exceptions, one when I press a cursor key while
starting Excel, or when I switch over to it while running JAWS repair.

It works just fine with NVDA and Narrator. I did try the same Excel sheet
with the latest version of JAWS on Windows 7, that works too.
Here is what I have tried:
I repaired and reinstalled JAWS. Currently I'm running the latest version,
but I also tried JAWS 18 and 17, same results.
I did call Freedom, they gave me some new scripts to install but to be
honest it even broke what already worked.

Also, it maybe worth mentioning that I am able to read the workbooks on the
Surface using the touch cursor, but that is limited, and since I do a lot of
keyboard entry the cursor navigation is necessary.

Thank you for any help:

Tom


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Jeremy,

          You asked for an example, I gave you an example.  Spend approximately 30 seconds on a web search on "Windows 10 Fast Startup Problems" and the results you'll get and you'll realize this is far from an isolated incident.   And, by the way, Fast Startup is implemented the same in both OSes and, as I said before, the issues can come from something causing corruption in the hibernation file, and that does happen.  It's no different than the myriad problems that can creep in to web browsers via cache corruption that "magically disappear" if one simply purges cache.  The hibernation file is "OS Cache," and it can get screwed up completely independently of an OS that's perfectly fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: jaws saying blank lines

amoussamas@...
 

Hello,
I have this problem on Jaws 17. I reviewed the release notes for Jaws 18 or 2018 and only found something similar when deleting. Has this bag been fixed in other Jaws 18 or Jaws 2018. Thank you for every reply.


Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Nino. You can't have both the Winamp screen and the folder where the mp3 files are both in the foreground. You can, however ALT TAB between the Winamp screen and the folder where the mp3 files are located.

I'll try to call you in a while, and see if I'm missing something.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

Hi:

When I use winamp I have to alt tab to get to the winamp screen.

I was hoping to stay in the folder where the mp3 files are.

Thank you.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: winamp or other programs I hope I can explain this right

If your system is s not doing that automatically, exactly what is it doing?


On 8/15/2018 11:17 AM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
Good morning:

If I open a list of mp3s to play and when I open one of the files I
would like winamp or what program I am using to com up to the forground.

Is it possibil to do that?

Thank you.


Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Tom,

What does JAWS in default mode tell you? In other words, press
Insert+spacebar then the letter Z to make JAWS perform as if you just
installed it. Try this then launch Excel and see what happens.

By the way, for those whom have not used this feature, using the JAWS
default mode is a very good way to begin troubleshooting before deleting
files and performing all kinds of odd procedures. This mode makes JAWS
behave as it is freshly installed. This can help one determine if it is JAWS
acting up or some other Windows setting. For many cases, this will rule out
JAWS as the culprit.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

In the meantime, I found that I have many different JAWs installs, settings,
etc.
I cleaned up everything, currently all I'm running is JAWS 2018, latest
update, out of the box.
Now the excel files are identical between Windows 7 and 10, still same
problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi tom,

Since this Surface Pro is a new computer, are you certain it is on desktop
mode and not tablet mode? To check try this...

1. use the Start menu search box to look for the following:
Tablet mode settings

2. After opening tablet mode settings, the following is the very first item
you should land on:
When I sign in Combo box: Use X mode
Note: X stands for the various options in this combo box.

I should note that when I first purchased my Windows 10 tablet, it was
originally set to Tablet mode, and I had to use the arrow keys to change
this setting so my tablet would behave more like a desktop than a tablet.

I also want to add that on these lists individuals quickly throw around the
idea of performing a JAWS repair, but this isn't always necessary. In many
cases, users make lots of customizations to JAWS, and when a JAWS repair is
performed, these customizations are undone, which means setting up JAWS once
again--this takes time and effort. :)

Please let me know if my suggestion above helped in any way, and we'll take
it from there. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi,
My name is Tom Babinszki, I just joined the list.
I have an interesting Excel reading problem.
I just got a Surface Pro running Windows 10 Pro.
I am not able to navigate excel sheets. When I press a cursor key, nothing
happens. There are two exceptions, one when I press a cursor key while
starting Excel, or when I switch over to it while running JAWS repair.

It works just fine with NVDA and Narrator. I did try the same Excel sheet
with the latest version of JAWS on Windows 7, that works too.
Here is what I have tried:
I repaired and reinstalled JAWS. Currently I'm running the latest version,
but I also tried JAWS 18 and 17, same results.
I did call Freedom, they gave me some new scripts to install but to be
honest it even broke what already worked.

Also, it maybe worth mentioning that I am able to read the workbooks on the
Surface using the touch cursor, but that is limited, and since I do a lot of
keyboard entry the cursor navigation is necessary.

Thank you for any help:

Tom


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Ok, fair enough, one guy using the less than stellar Windows 8 (Sample size is n = 1), not to mention it was operating system corruption causing the problem and not fast boot. Still not really much of a sample from millions and millions of Windows 10 users whom don’t have these problems.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 6:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 09:13 AM, Jeremy wrote:

Out of curiosity, what issues has this fast boot caused?

Taken directly from a client report written in November 2015, regarding a Windows 8 machine that was using Fast Startup and where the hibernation file used for same had become corrupted:
-----------

Caps Lock key was perpetually locked, backspace key did not work, up arrow and down arrow keys would not work.  He had already done a full system shutdown and restart and this did not clear the problems.  He acquired another portable wireless keyboard and mouse and the same behaviors were exhibited when these were in use, so the issue definitely was with the computer.   Windows 8 uses a form of shutdown known as a hybrid shutdown by default, where certain state information is written to a file at shutdown an read back in again upon restart.  I disabled this feature such that a shutdown completely powers down the laptop and retains no information regarding the prior session upon reboot.  This cleared all of the keyboard issues for the laptop and external keyboards upon rebooting.

-----------

I had never encountered anything like this before, and it was sheer luck that I eventually hit upon Fast Startup as the root cause.  The kinds of things that can go wrong if there is a corruption in the OS system state are myriad, and if that state is written out to a hibernation file and reloaded, you just carry it along.  Of course, one could do a forced Restart and that should clear it, but that's counterintuitive to those of us who have been taught for decades that using Shut Down was the definitive way to power the computer off and have Windows reload from scratch when powered up again.

If one wants to use Fast Startup then have at it.  Just realize that if you start to have inexplicable weirdness going on that doing a forced Restart, which does make Windows reload from the disc from scratch, is the first thing you should do.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Tom Babinszki
 

In the meantime, I found that I have many different JAWs installs, settings,
etc.
I cleaned up everything, currently all I'm running is JAWS 2018, latest
update, out of the box.
Now the excel files are identical between Windows 7 and 10, still same
problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi tom,

Since this Surface Pro is a new computer, are you certain it is on desktop
mode and not tablet mode? To check try this...

1. use the Start menu search box to look for the following:
Tablet mode settings

2. After opening tablet mode settings, the following is the very first item
you should land on:
When I sign in Combo box: Use X mode
Note: X stands for the various options in this combo box.

I should note that when I first purchased my Windows 10 tablet, it was
originally set to Tablet mode, and I had to use the arrow keys to change
this setting so my tablet would behave more like a desktop than a tablet.

I also want to add that on these lists individuals quickly throw around the
idea of performing a JAWS repair, but this isn't always necessary. In many
cases, users make lots of customizations to JAWS, and when a JAWS repair is
performed, these customizations are undone, which means setting up JAWS once
again--this takes time and effort. :)

Please let me know if my suggestion above helped in any way, and we'll take
it from there. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi,
My name is Tom Babinszki, I just joined the list.
I have an interesting Excel reading problem.
I just got a Surface Pro running Windows 10 Pro.
I am not able to navigate excel sheets. When I press a cursor key, nothing
happens. There are two exceptions, one when I press a cursor key while
starting Excel, or when I switch over to it while running JAWS repair.

It works just fine with NVDA and Narrator. I did try the same Excel sheet
with the latest version of JAWS on Windows 7, that works too.
Here is what I have tried:
I repaired and reinstalled JAWS. Currently I'm running the latest version,
but I also tried JAWS 18 and 17, same results.
I did call Freedom, they gave me some new scripts to install but to be
honest it even broke what already worked.

Also, it maybe worth mentioning that I am able to read the workbooks on the
Surface using the touch cursor, but that is limited, and since I do a lot of
keyboard entry the cursor navigation is necessary.

Thank you for any help:

Tom


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 09:13 AM, Jeremy wrote:
Out of curiosity, what issues has this fast boot caused?
Taken directly from a client report written in November 2015, regarding a Windows 8 machine that was using Fast Startup and where the hibernation file used for same had become corrupted:
-----------

Caps Lock key was perpetually locked, backspace key did not work, up arrow and down arrow keys would not work.  He had already done a full system shutdown and restart and this did not clear the problems.  He acquired another portable wireless keyboard and mouse and the same behaviors were exhibited when these were in use, so the issue definitely was with the computer.   Windows 8 uses a form of shutdown known as a hybrid shutdown by default, where certain state information is written to a file at shutdown an read back in again upon restart.  I disabled this feature such that a shutdown completely powers down the laptop and retains no information regarding the prior session upon reboot.  This cleared all of the keyboard issues for the laptop and external keyboards upon rebooting.

-----------

I had never encountered anything like this before, and it was sheer luck that I eventually hit upon Fast Startup as the root cause.  The kinds of things that can go wrong if there is a corruption in the OS system state are myriad, and if that state is written out to a hibernation file and reloaded, you just carry it along.  Of course, one could do a forced Restart and that should clear it, but that's counterintuitive to those of us who have been taught for decades that using Shut Down was the definitive way to power the computer off and have Windows reload from scratch when powered up again.

If one wants to use Fast Startup then have at it.  Just realize that if you start to have inexplicable weirdness going on that doing a forced Restart, which does make Windows reload from the disc from scratch, is the first thing you should do.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Allen,

 

Out of curiosity, what issues has this fast boot caused? The issue I’m most aware of is that some are bent on hearing the Windows start up sound and would gladly sacrifice performance and convenience just to hear that little wav file. J

 

Thanks,

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 5:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Again, my experience has been different. Maybe I’ll try again but up until now I’ve seen on lists far more issues/problems than enhancements.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

I have a bit of a high-end computer, and I definitely notice a difference when Fast boot is on or off. I can come in and out of shutdown in about as  long as it takes me to lift the lid on my laptop with fast boot on as opposed to about 35 seconds with fast boot off. This feature is also very reliable and stable--I can go for weeks without a restart. I don’t think Microsoft would have spent so much in R&D for this feature to not notice a difference in boot time.  

 

JR

  

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Agreed, if using a traditional mechanical drive. However, if one is using the new solid-state drive the increased time saved is not worth any possible inconvenience. I keep this turned off and all my solid-state drive computers and see virtually no difference in time whether it is enabled or not.


On Aug 24, 2018, at 4:43 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

I disagree. Fast Startup is a very useful time-saving feature of Windows. I use it on all my computers, and I’ve never experienced corruption.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Just turn off fast startup, it’s a pain anyway.  Often your on-disk to memory transfer gets corrupted.  It causes more grief than it helps, in my experience.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 August 2018 15:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Tom Babinszki
 

Thank you.
I am definitely using PC mode.
The repair and reinstall suggestion came from Freedom.
Now that I'm comparing the scripts between two computers, it appears that my
Surface is using a different excel.jss file, however, the office
installation is the same.
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi tom,

Since this Surface Pro is a new computer, are you certain it is on desktop
mode and not tablet mode? To check try this...

1. use the Start menu search box to look for the following:
Tablet mode settings

2. After opening tablet mode settings, the following is the very first item
you should land on:
When I sign in Combo box: Use X mode
Note: X stands for the various options in this combo box.

I should note that when I first purchased my Windows 10 tablet, it was
originally set to Tablet mode, and I had to use the arrow keys to change
this setting so my tablet would behave more like a desktop than a tablet.

I also want to add that on these lists individuals quickly throw around the
idea of performing a JAWS repair, but this isn't always necessary. In many
cases, users make lots of customizations to JAWS, and when a JAWS repair is
performed, these customizations are undone, which means setting up JAWS once
again--this takes time and effort. :)

Please let me know if my suggestion above helped in any way, and we'll take
it from there. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel reading problem on Surface tablet

Hi,
My name is Tom Babinszki, I just joined the list.
I have an interesting Excel reading problem.
I just got a Surface Pro running Windows 10 Pro.
I am not able to navigate excel sheets. When I press a cursor key, nothing
happens. There are two exceptions, one when I press a cursor key while
starting Excel, or when I switch over to it while running JAWS repair.

It works just fine with NVDA and Narrator. I did try the same Excel sheet
with the latest version of JAWS on Windows 7, that works too.
Here is what I have tried:
I repaired and reinstalled JAWS. Currently I'm running the latest version,
but I also tried JAWS 18 and 17, same results.
I did call Freedom, they gave me some new scripts to install but to be
honest it even broke what already worked.

Also, it maybe worth mentioning that I am able to read the workbooks on the
Surface using the touch cursor, but that is limited, and since I do a lot of
keyboard entry the cursor navigation is necessary.

Thank you for any help:

Tom


Re: How do I access to my default dictionary?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

From wherever you are in Windows, press Insert+D then press ControlShiftD. If you press JAWSKey+T you should hear default.jdf.

If you're asked to create a new JDF file simply press escape, and the default.jdf file will load.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lev
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 5:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do I access to my default dictionary?

Hi everyone,

What are the keystrokes to quickly access my default dictionary?

In the past I had tryed pushing insert plus f2 and then going to the menu dictionary assistant, but after save changes it seems there is not any diference about how I want a word to be spelled.




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Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Alan Robbins
 

Again, my experience has been different. Maybe I’ll try again but up until now I’ve seen on lists far more issues/problems than enhancements.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

I have a bit of a high-end computer, and I definitely notice a difference when Fast boot is on or off. I can come in and out of shutdown in about as  long as it takes me to lift the lid on my laptop with fast boot on as opposed to about 35 seconds with fast boot off. This feature is also very reliable and stable--I can go for weeks without a restart. I don’t think Microsoft would have spent so much in R&D for this feature to not notice a difference in boot time.  

 

JR

  

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Agreed, if using a traditional mechanical drive. However, if one is using the new solid-state drive the increased time saved is not worth any possible inconvenience. I keep this turned off and all my solid-state drive computers and see virtually no difference in time whether it is enabled or not.


On Aug 24, 2018, at 4:43 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

I disagree. Fast Startup is a very useful time-saving feature of Windows. I use it on all my computers, and I’ve never experienced corruption.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Just turn off fast startup, it’s a pain anyway.  Often your on-disk to memory transfer gets corrupted.  It causes more grief than it helps, in my experience.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 August 2018 15:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


How do I access to my default dictionary?

Leo
 

Hi everyone,

What are the keystrokes to quickly access my default dictionary?

In the past I had tryed pushing insert plus f2 and then going to the menu dictionary assistant, but after save changes it seems there is not any diference about how I want a word to be spelled.




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Visit my blog:
https://blindbirdchronicles.wordpress.com
Thanks for any help.
 Do me a favor and inspire me...
Literophilus


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

I have a bit of a high-end computer, and I definitely notice a difference when Fast boot is on or off. I can come in and out of shutdown in about as  long as it takes me to lift the lid on my laptop with fast boot on as opposed to about 35 seconds with fast boot off. This feature is also very reliable and stable--I can go for weeks without a restart. I don’t think Microsoft would have spent so much in R&D for this feature to not notice a difference in boot time.  

 

JR

  

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 3:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Agreed, if using a traditional mechanical drive. However, if one is using the new solid-state drive the increased time saved is not worth any possible inconvenience. I keep this turned off and all my solid-state drive computers and see virtually no difference in time whether it is enabled or not.


On Aug 24, 2018, at 4:43 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

I disagree. Fast Startup is a very useful time-saving feature of Windows. I use it on all my computers, and I’ve never experienced corruption.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Just turn off fast startup, it’s a pain anyway.  Often your on-disk to memory transfer gets corrupted.  It causes more grief than it helps, in my experience.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 August 2018 15:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Latest Skype and Jaws 2018

inamuddin khan
 

Dear, I’m very sorry to let you know that the latest Skype is not accessible in system tray.

Why don’t you give feedback to Microsoft by pressing ctrl+o?

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
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Add my Skype ID:
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Meet me on facebook:
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Follow me on my twitter ID:
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Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

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From: Jim L
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 9:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Latest Skype and Jaws 2018

 

Heya folks,

 

Have installed the new Jaws update 2018 and latest Skype 8.2, Can anyone click on skype in the systray and access the menu list from there as we did with previous Skype version?

 

If so what is the menu list as Jaws doesn’t read it to me and I cannot cursor up or down on that list.

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 

 


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Alan Robbins
 

Agreed, if using a traditional mechanical drive. However, if one is using the new solid-state drive the increased time saved is not worth any possible inconvenience. I keep this turned off and all my solid-state drive computers and see virtually no difference in time whether it is enabled or not.

On Aug 24, 2018, at 4:43 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

I disagree. Fast Startup is a very useful time-saving feature of Windows. I use it on all my computers, and I’ve never experienced corruption.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Just turn off fast startup, it’s a pain anyway.  Often your on-disk to memory transfer gets corrupted.  It causes more grief than it helps, in my experience.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 August 2018 15:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

The problem with resetting windows is having to spend another few days rebuilding your computer to the useful state before the disaster. Using RollBackRX you're literally up and going within 3 minutes--depending on your computer hardware of course. I do agree that a reset or refresh is much better than what we had in prior versions of Windows.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi,

I too don't use images any more. It's so easy to reset Windows 10 PCs, so I just reset and reinstall my programs.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: 22 August 2018 19:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi all,

Regarding backup software...

I tried many of the commonly used suggestions such as Image for Windows and alike, and I found them to be more of a time consuming process than useful. Many times these system images completed just fine, but when tested for integrity, they had problems--this was especially true for my computers with SSDs. When the time to image my computer came along, the images either failed or they resulted in weird quirks such as very long boot times and alike. I'm sure many of these problems won't happen if one has a relatively simple computer configuration, but when you have tons of software titles and Windows updates installed, these imaging solutions begin having problems do to all the complexity. I ultimately gave up on imaging Windows as precious time gets eaten up when one has to manage many computers.

I found the best solution for me is RollBackRX. If anything went wrong with my computer I simply ran a previous snapshot, and I was up and going in a couple of minutes. Yes, system images have their place, but often problems with Windows can be fixed very quickly by running a previous snapshot. RollBackRX is also extremely useful for those whom test lots of software as they can install new titles, and if one is not happy with the results, simply use RollBackRX to revert the computer to a previously working state.

RollBack Rx Home | Horizon DataSys Corporation -
https://is.gd/RBg6A4

HTH

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Crashplan was always partially accessible, but I gave it up when they abolished the feature to send you a disk in case of a disaster and you could not really do a full system image on it and it became very slow over time.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:11:34 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:

Is it accessible?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: 22 August 2018 13:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

What about CrashPlan? It's 1.5 times the price of an annual one-terabyte Dropbox plan, but has no limits. Or none that I've been able to find.


On 8/20/2018 1:33 PM, Jeremy wrote:
That much data will likely cost you quite a bit of cash to upload to cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, Carbonite, etc., not to mention the amount of time it will take to upload the information. If you're not constantly modifying the data, then the previous cloud storage solutions will not be all that useful to you. I suggest purchasing external hard drives. I have always purchased Western Digital Black or Seagate drives and never had a problem. For data backup you will not want to skimp on quality. :) Take a look at the following drive:

Amazon.com: WD 4TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0
$99
https://is.gd/HJwtP2

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know, not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name
implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link
you will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro . Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email,
Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can
use with jaws?










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Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

I disagree. Fast Startup is a very useful time-saving feature of Windows. I use it on all my computers, and I’ve never experienced corruption.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Just turn off fast startup, it’s a pain anyway.  Often your on-disk to memory transfer gets corrupted.  It causes more grief than it helps, in my experience.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 August 2018 15:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill