Date   

moderated Re: Windows 10 question

 

Hi,
Not easily anymore: although you can pause updates for up to five weeks, you can't delay feature updates for up to a year from Settings (this used to be case with Version 1909/November 2019 Update, not anymore since Version 2004/May 2020 Update).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

in Windows 10, the updates are automatic, and can be delayed for a while.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Edward Green [mailto:ergreen1981@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 4:13 PM
Subject: Windows 10 question
Hi Madison,

Press Windows key+r to bring up the run dialog and type "winver" without the quotes.

Cheers,

Ed

On 14 Jul 2020, at 21:10, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates turned on? Thanks Madison








.


moderated Re: clock question

 

Hi,

The link provided in Settings/Time and Date/Region does not open the “actual” date and time Control Panel applet – it opens an overview page, not the dialog to change date and time.

This is one of those instances where I wish Microsoft would just move everything to Settings, but that won’t happen for a long time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

 

No not exactly but, since she couldn't get to the control panel there's a link that'll open up control panel options to change the date and time by tabbing to them.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:52 PM

Subject: Re: clock question

 

Hi,

Region subcategory does not let you change date – rather, it controls how certain things are displayed depending on where you live (commonly called a “locale”).

To change date and time manually (and I’ll introduce you to shorthands):

  1. Open Settings (Windows+I).
  2. Go to Time and Date/Date and Time (notice the shorthand; basically, you would select the first item, then select the next item).
  3. Turn off “Set time automatically".
  4. Click (select) “Set the date and time manually".
  5. From “Change date and time” window, move through controls and select the actual month, date, year, hour, minute, and period (AM or PM).
  6. Click “Change” button.

Try pressing JAWS Key+F12 (or twice) to make sure what you set is kept. If it didn’t, as folks noted, this is a hardware issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

 

With your date being over 3 years off it don't matter what time you set your computer to, you need to correct the date as well.  Follow Joseph Lee's steps and choose, Region, instead of, Date and time, to change your date and time from there.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: clock question

 

I just checked and it said that the date is 04/05/2017, would this indicate that
the date and time isn't sinked with the Internet? If so, how do I get it so that
it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: July 14, 2020 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may
be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so
it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand
and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it
stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running
Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison















moderated Re: Windows 10 question

Steve Matzura
 

There's nothing to check. Updates are no longer an option in Windows 10. That is, you can't say you don't want them. The best you can cd is pause them for seven days.

On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

Hi,
The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start
menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that
starts with "Version".
As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the past,
people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates on or
off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to more
recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have changed since
then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature updates (releases)
unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed compatible with the new
update.
Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question
posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature updates
(source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier):
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu
re+updates,100,2,0,74554449
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 question

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
turned on? Thanks Madison










moderated Re: Windows 10 question

Mario
 

in Windows 10, the updates are automatic, and can be delayed for a while.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Edward Green [mailto:ergreen1981@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 4:13 PM
Subject: Windows 10 question
Hi Madison,

Press Windows key+r to bring up the run dialog and type "winver" without the quotes.

Cheers,

Ed

On 14 Jul 2020, at 21:10, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
turned on? Thanks
Madison








.


moderated Re: clock question

Mike B
 

No not exactly but, since she couldn't get to the control panel there's a link that'll open up control panel options to change the date and time by tabbing to them.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: clock question

Hi,

Region subcategory does not let you change date – rather, it controls how certain things are displayed depending on where you live (commonly called a “locale”).

To change date and time manually (and I’ll introduce you to shorthands):

  1. Open Settings (Windows+I).
  2. Go to Time and Date/Date and Time (notice the shorthand; basically, you would select the first item, then select the next item).
  3. Turn off “Set time automatically".
  4. Click (select) “Set the date and time manually".
  5. From “Change date and time” window, move through controls and select the actual month, date, year, hour, minute, and period (AM or PM).
  6. Click “Change” button.

Try pressing JAWS Key+F12 (or twice) to make sure what you set is kept. If it didn’t, as folks noted, this is a hardware issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

 

With your date being over 3 years off it don't matter what time you set your computer to, you need to correct the date as well.  Follow Joseph Lee's steps and choose, Region, instead of, Date and time, to change your date and time from there.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: clock question

 

I just checked and it said that the date is 04/05/2017, would this indicate that
the date and time isn't sinked with the Internet? If so, how do I get it so that
it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: July 14, 2020 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may
be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so
it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand
and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it
stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running
Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
















moderated Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

Steve Matzura
 

It's up to 78.0.2, and it's real broke even on JAWS 2020. Doesn't work any better with NVDA or Narrator, so I'm not all-fired sure it's a JAWS problem.


On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

According to Eric Damery and Glen Gordon in today's NFB meeting on JAWS, Mozilla is aware of this issue which was caused inadvertently by them in the Firefox 78.x update and it should be fixed when version 79 is released on the 28th of this month.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Blair
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

I'm thinking 78.0.2 is crashing less than 78.0.1 but still definitely not good! I'm using Chrome a lot more now, or else using Firefox with NVDA. I tried Jaws 2019 and 2020 and they both crash often with latest Firefox.

On 7/12/2020 8:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

78.02 which is now the latest version, also crashes, I mostly use the new Chromium based Edge for the most part.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

It crashed occasionally before 78.0.1 but it was a tolerable level of wankiness. This update is definitely unveiling something nasty. Mozilla apparently had a twitter back and forth trying to reproduce this bug and it was a tricky one to both find and solve. I guess we wait for next update, which with FF…should be soon.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: July 12, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

For what it’s worth, I have JAWS 2020 and I have stopped using Firefox for the most part because it crashes frequently. I spoke with tech support at Freedom Scientific who told me they are well aware of it.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

Hey folks. Yes, I know JAWS 2018 is behind the curve, now, and that an upgrade would be beneficial. However, I’m not in a position to upgrade at this time. At the risk of running a huge struggle to continue using outdated software, I would like to know if anybody has any ideas of configuration settings that might make Firefox less crashy using this screen-reader. I know its’ an issue between interaction with JAWS and firefox and, frankly, always has been since the advent of Quantum. I tested this with nVDA (2019.3 and 2020.1) and it’s a lot less crashy. In fact I have failed to make Firefox crash even once using this other screen-reader. I know some users of JAWS 2020 have reported crashes, too, but I’m unable to test that currently and at a guess, newer versions of JFW should probably work better as well as NVDA. Anyway, since I’m not looking to downgrade firefox and not quite ready to either upgrade or give up JFW for the web browsing experience, in part because it works so nicely with my Focus braille display, just wondering if there are any flags/options I can alter in about:preferences or about:config (firefox’s “hidden” advanced settings page containing literally thousands of configurable options) that might help me have a smoother experience. Right now, since FF updated to 78.0.1 a week or two ago, everything from wikipedia pages to my old wisp’s webmail is crashing tabs. This only happens when jFW is running.

 

NB: I’m aware of other browsers  and use them, so no need to suggest just switching browsers. Thanks!!

 

 

 


moderated Re: Sound Card Question Windows 10

Randy Meyer
 

Mario:

Audigy Fx from Creative Labs off of Amazon for around $40. It is an internal card. To install in windows 10 you need to download the appropriate software from Creative Labs, the cd in the box does not work for windows 10.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Card Question Windows 10

hey Randy, if I may ask, can you tell me what SoundBlaster do you have?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Randy Meyer [mailto:randymeyer@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 2:29 PM
Subject: Sound Card Question Windows 10
Rick:

Yes, I have speakers into my sound blaster card and headphones into my on board Realtek audio. Today, I plugged in my camera for a Zoom meeting. Jaws stopped speaking through sound blaster and tried speaking through the speaker built in to my camera. It was too quiet to hear, but fortunately, narrator was loud enough to hear through the small camera speaker.

I had to go to windows 10 sound settings and switch the focus back to the sound blaster card, and all audio came through fine.

I still have the sound blaster card checked in Jaws, which should mean that all Jaws audio comes through it, even when a different audio output is selected in windows 10 settings.

I would like to figure out how to make this work properly.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Card Question Windows 10

Hi Randy,
Do you have a set of speakers plugged into each soundcard?

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Meyer" <randymeyer@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 8:41 PM
Subject: Sound Card Question Windows 10


I am using latest Jaws 2020 and windows 10. I have my sound blaster card selected in Jaws, but when I go to sound settings in windows and change to a different sound card, I lose Jaws speech.



I thought if I specifically selected the sound blaster card in Jaws, and not the windows default sound, Jaws would always speak through the sound blaster card, regardless of selection in windows 10 sound settings.



I am trying to route Jaws to the sound blaster card and other sounds to the built in realtek sound card.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Also, when I plug in any new sound output device, such as a camera, windows
10 makes this the active sound output device, effectively turning off Jaws speech.



Randy Meyer












.


moderated Re: Windows 10 question

 

Hi,
It is enabled by default. There is a way to find out, which will involve
opening a list of Windows services and seeing if Windows Update service is
active. But for everyday consumers, don't worry about automatic updates.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

Hi,
The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start
menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line
that starts with "Version".
As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the
past, people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates
on or off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to
more recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have
changed since then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature
updates (releases) unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed
compatible with the new update.
Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question
posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature
updates
(source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier):
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu
re+updates,100,2,0,74554449
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 question

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic
updates turned on? Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Windows 10 question

Madison Martin
 

How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

Hi,
The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start
menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that
starts with "Version".
As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the past,
people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates on or
off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to more
recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have changed since
then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature updates (releases)
unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed compatible with the new
update.
Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question
posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature updates
(source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier):
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu
re+updates,100,2,0,74554449
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 question

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
turned on? Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

According to Eric Damery and Glen Gordon in today's NFB meeting on JAWS, Mozilla is aware of this issue which was caused inadvertently by them in the Firefox 78.x update and it should be fixed when version 79 is released on the 28th of this month.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Blair
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

I'm thinking 78.0.2 is crashing less than 78.0.1 but still definitely not good! I'm using Chrome a lot more now, or else using Firefox with NVDA. I tried Jaws 2019 and 2020 and they both crash often with latest Firefox.

On 7/12/2020 8:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

78.02 which is now the latest version, also crashes, I mostly use the new Chromium based Edge for the most part.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

It crashed occasionally before 78.0.1 but it was a tolerable level of wankiness. This update is definitely unveiling something nasty. Mozilla apparently had a twitter back and forth trying to reproduce this bug and it was a tricky one to both find and solve. I guess we wait for next update, which with FF…should be soon.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: July 12, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

For what it’s worth, I have JAWS 2020 and I have stopped using Firefox for the most part because it crashes frequently. I spoke with tech support at Freedom Scientific who told me they are well aware of it.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

Hey folks. Yes, I know JAWS 2018 is behind the curve, now, and that an upgrade would be beneficial. However, I’m not in a position to upgrade at this time. At the risk of running a huge struggle to continue using outdated software, I would like to know if anybody has any ideas of configuration settings that might make Firefox less crashy using this screen-reader. I know its’ an issue between interaction with JAWS and firefox and, frankly, always has been since the advent of Quantum. I tested this with nVDA (2019.3 and 2020.1) and it’s a lot less crashy. In fact I have failed to make Firefox crash even once using this other screen-reader. I know some users of JAWS 2020 have reported crashes, too, but I’m unable to test that currently and at a guess, newer versions of JFW should probably work better as well as NVDA. Anyway, since I’m not looking to downgrade firefox and not quite ready to either upgrade or give up JFW for the web browsing experience, in part because it works so nicely with my Focus braille display, just wondering if there are any flags/options I can alter in about:preferences or about:config (firefox’s “hidden” advanced settings page containing literally thousands of configurable options) that might help me have a smoother experience. Right now, since FF updated to 78.0.1 a week or two ago, everything from wikipedia pages to my old wisp’s webmail is crashing tabs. This only happens when jFW is running.

 

NB: I’m aware of other browsers  and use them, so no need to suggest just switching browsers. Thanks!!

 

 

 


moderated Re: Windows 10 question

 

Hi,
The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start
menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line
that starts with "Version".
As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the
past, people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates
on or off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to
more recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have
changed since then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature
updates (releases) unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed
compatible with the new update.
Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question
posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature
updates (source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier):
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu
re+updates,100,2,0,74554449
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 question

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic
updates turned on? Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Windows 10 question

Edward Green
 

Hi Madison,

Press Windows key+r to bring up the run dialog and type "winver" without the quotes.

Cheers,

Ed

On 14 Jul 2020, at 21:10, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
turned on? Thanks
Madison




moderated Windows 10 question

Madison Martin
 

Hi again all,
Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
turned on? Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: Sound Card Question Windows 10

Mario
 

hey Randy, if I may ask, can you tell me what SoundBlaster do you have?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Randy Meyer [mailto:randymeyer@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 2:29 PM
Subject: Sound Card Question Windows 10
Rick:

Yes, I have speakers into my sound blaster card and headphones into my on board Realtek audio. Today, I plugged in my camera for a Zoom meeting. Jaws stopped speaking through sound blaster and tried speaking through the speaker built in to my camera. It was too quiet to hear, but fortunately, narrator was loud enough to hear through the small camera speaker.

I had to go to windows 10 sound settings and switch the focus back to the sound blaster card, and all audio came through fine.

I still have the sound blaster card checked in Jaws, which should mean that all Jaws audio comes through it, even when a different audio output is selected in windows 10 settings.

I would like to figure out how to make this work properly.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 8:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound Card Question Windows 10

Hi Randy,
Do you have a set of speakers plugged into each soundcard?

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Meyer" <randymeyer@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 8:41 PM
Subject: Sound Card Question Windows 10


I am using latest Jaws 2020 and windows 10. I have my sound blaster card
selected in Jaws, but when I go to sound settings in windows and change to a
different sound card, I lose Jaws speech.



I thought if I specifically selected the sound blaster card in Jaws, and not
the windows default sound, Jaws would always speak through the sound blaster
card, regardless of selection in windows 10 sound settings.



I am trying to route Jaws to the sound blaster card and other sounds to the
built in realtek sound card.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Also, when I plug in any new sound output device, such as a camera, windows
10 makes this the active sound output device, effectively turning off Jaws
speech.



Randy Meyer












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moderated Re: JAWS and Zoom

Ann Byrne
 

I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.

At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?



Rick Miller

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom

Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab around until you find the names of participants and press enter on the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom

Dear Listers:

I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says, "Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So what does this mean?



Rick Miller


moderated Re: clock question

 

Hi,

Region subcategory does not let you change date – rather, it controls how certain things are displayed depending on where you live (commonly called a “locale”).

To change date and time manually (and I’ll introduce you to shorthands):

  1. Open Settings (Windows+I).
  2. Go to Time and Date/Date and Time (notice the shorthand; basically, you would select the first item, then select the next item).
  3. Turn off “Set time automatically".
  4. Click (select) “Set the date and time manually".
  5. From “Change date and time” window, move through controls and select the actual month, date, year, hour, minute, and period (AM or PM).
  6. Click “Change” button.

Try pressing JAWS Key+F12 (or twice) to make sure what you set is kept. If it didn’t, as folks noted, this is a hardware issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

 

With your date being over 3 years off it don't matter what time you set your computer to, you need to correct the date as well.  Follow Joseph Lee's steps and choose, Region, instead of, Date and time, to change your date and time from there.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: clock question

 

I just checked and it said that the date is 04/05/2017, would this indicate that
the date and time isn't sinked with the Internet? If so, how do I get it so that
it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: July 14, 2020 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may
be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so
it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand
and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it
stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running
Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
















moderated Re: clock question

Mike B
 

With your date being over 3 years off it don't matter what time you set your computer to, you need to correct the date as well.  Follow Joseph Lee's steps and choose, Region, instead of, Date and time, to change your date and time from there.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: clock question

I just checked and it said that the date is 04/05/2017, would this indicate that
the date and time isn't sinked with the Internet? If so, how do I get it so that
it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: July 14, 2020 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may
be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so
it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand
and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to
others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it
stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running
Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison

















moderated Re: clock question

Richard Turner
 

Joseph gave you the best info.
But you can also tap your Windows key and type date and time and it will take you to the settings.



Richard

On Jul 14, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@...> wrote:

I can't find date and time in the control panel...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

press the windows key and go to the search box and type in control panel. then go to date and time. go to the internet settings and set it to get the time from the server.


-----Original Message-----
From: Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison




















moderated Re: clock question

 

Hi,
That might be because Control Panel is set to category view, not small or large icons. To find out, tab around Control Panel until you arrive at the search box, then press Tab to see what JAWS says.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

I can't find date and time in the control panel...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

press the windows key and go to the search box and type in control panel. then go to date and time. go to the internet settings and set it to get the time from the server.


-----Original Message-----
From: Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison


moderated Re: clock question

Madison Martin
 

I can't find date and time in the control panel...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

press the windows key and go to the search box and type in control panel. then go to date and time. go to the internet settings and set it to get the time from the server.


-----Original Message-----
From: Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

How do I get to Windows settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: clock question

You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings.
If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may be going out because it shouldn't slow down.
You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so it syncs with the internet.
I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand and launch Narrator.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: clock question

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison