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moderated Re: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi Monica, 

in addition to the F7 hot key: you could use the hot key Control+F7 to jump to the next proofreading error. If Microsoft Word found one a context menu opens with suggestions. Search the right word and press Enter to correct the word. Personally I think this is the fastest way of proof reading a document. 

All the best
Udo 




Am 16.04.2021 um 16:20 schrieb Monica S <mrod16@...>:

Thank you to everyone who answered this thread.  Thanks to your notes, I was successfully able to use it.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

 

Monica,

 

Tab through the choices to get familiar with them. Among them are:

Ignore, meaning skip this single instance because you intended what  you wrote there.

Ignore all, meaning each time this word turns up in this document, don’t  change it.

Add to dictionary, where the word is permanently added and will be accepted in all documents, not just the current one.

Change. Here, a shift-tab should bring up a list of alternatives. Arrow down to the correct  one and confirm by tabbing to “change” and pressing spacebar.

Change all. This is nice because it saves you from having to make the same correction in the document over and over.

Shortcuts include “c” for change, “l” for change all, “I” for ignore once, “g” for ignore all, and “a” for add to dictionary.

Some quirks:

On my system, I must press alt with the desired single-letter shortcut when I’m in Outlook 2016. So, instead of tabbing to change, I press alt-c when the correct option appears. However, I mustn’t press the alt key when I’m in Word 2016: just the single letter.

Another quirk: sometimes Word intrudes with an explanation of why it doesn’t like what it sees. When this happens, I’m not always aware of it. when I suspect that’s what’s going on, I press insert-numpad 8 to read the current line. I hear the explanation, press escape, and I’m returned to the tabbed choices.

 

I hope these notes help get  you started.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monica S
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

 

Hello everyone, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could learn about using the spell check functions in MS Word with Jaws?  I’m using Office 365 and the latest update in for Jaws 2021.  I guess I haven’t used it in a long time.  I press F7 and it gives me choices I have never heard before.  Thanks for any assistance.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 




moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

I can say, though, that I am actually heartened that a serious and spontaneous discussion of backup media has occurred, period.

One of the dumbest things that many computer owners continue to persist with is NOT taking regular cyclic backups.  Most of my worst service calls are due to drive failures where no backup, whether just of user data or a full system image, exists.  The last client I had who had a drive failure (with a HDD, in this case, and he kept trying to fire the machine up and could hear it making noise - an absolute no-no) had a drive so badly damaged that even a professional data recovery company could not recover his data (or at least more than 70% of it, which allows the customer to reject the recovery if less than 70%).  He lost years of stuff including digital photos, documents, etc.

Taking full system image backups as well as separate user data backups on a regular, cyclic basis really should be considered a basic task of computer ownership, and both are easy.  Windows 10 has an excellent built-in utility for user data backups, File History (though I tweak the defaults to make it keep far fewer versions of individual files, and for less time prior to the last time the file was updated).  There are myriad options for full system image backups, which have been recently discussed on this very group.

In the end, I care far less about any given user being able to do their own recovery than that they have a backup that someone can do the recovery from.  If you can DIY, that's great, but a very great many individuals can't, nor do they want to.  But taking the backups so that they're available if ever needed is something that the owner or primary user of a given computer should be doing as a matter of course.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Dave Durber
 


Brian:
 
I agree with everything you wrote, one thousand and one percent
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
-
I really do not understand this statement, and I say that as a professional computer tech.

I personally prefer SSDs for OS drives just due to the speed factor, but definitely not for reliability or recoverability.  All of my personal backup drives are HDDs because they are very reliable (and have been for decades now) and will generally give you lots of warning signs before failure.  SSDs have a tendency to be very much like jump drives, SD cards, and similar in that when they decide to die they just up and die.  And I can definitely say that the cost of data recovery from SSDs (and other similar media) is far more expensive and less certain than HDDs.

I wouldn't even think of using an SSD as my primary backup media.  Until they become far less inclined to sudden death, and until data recovery probability goes way up and costs go way down, I'll use HDDs as backup media.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Richard's statement made me pause too. Conventional hard disk drives have been around since the mid 1980s and have gotten better, more reliable, and less expensive during that time. They are much more reliable as a backup medium as opposed to SSDs which are still evolving and expensive in my opinion.

Alan Lemly 

with Outlook for iOS


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 8:52:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.
 
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
-
I really do not understand this statement, and I say that as a professional computer tech.

I personally prefer SSDs for OS drives just due to the speed factor, but definitely not for reliability or recoverability.  All of my personal backup drives are HDDs because they are very reliable (and have been for decades now) and will generally give you lots of warning signs before failure.  SSDs have a tendency to be very much like jump drives, SD cards, and similar in that when they decide to die they just up and die.  And I can definitely say that the cost of data recovery from SSDs (and other similar media) is far more expensive and less certain than HDDs.

I wouldn't even think of using an SSD as my primary backup media.  Until they become far less inclined to sudden death, and until data recovery probability goes way up and costs go way down, I'll use HDDs as backup media.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: kortana screen

Jaffar Sidek
 

Juan.  I am afraid, and this is a personal thing of course, that the only way it can be closed is for you to go to task manager, press k until you encounter it, then press delete.  I've heard it can't be closed the normal way because it is a floating window.  Hopefully, someone else might have a better solution though.  Cheers!

On 16/4/2021 10:33 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

 

I have this weird window that is called kortana where it has a edit box to type stuff to her, and a voice button to enable speaking to her.  I can’t seem to get rid of it though, it stays in my alt+tab order.  Does anyone know how to get rid of it?

 

Best,

 

Juan


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Juan Hernandez
 

Well said!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi,

I concur with Brian and others who pointed out that it is important to think about purposes of getting a new computer and choose specs based on them. I myself have settled on a ThinkPad for the next laptop due to the reputation of its keyboard, as I sought a writer’s machine with decent specs (not the top of the line).

If I read Jim’s initial request correctly, he wants a machine for music production and related tasks. For these, I think a decent Intel I5 or I7 would suffice (four to six cores), or a cheaper alternative being a mid-range AMD Ryzen (3 or 5 should be enough). Apart from RAM (8 to 16 GB should be enough for music production needs), what’s more important for music professionals is the quality of the sound card (internal sound cards may work, but if one wants to get into heavy music production, add-on cards (PCI Express) or mixers are preferred, and you must factor that when purchasing this particular system).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?

-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated kortana screen

Juan Hernandez
 

HI All,

 

I have this weird window that is called kortana where it has a edit box to type stuff to her, and a voice button to enable speaking to her.  I can’t seem to get rid of it though, it stays in my alt+tab order.  Does anyone know how to get rid of it?

 

Best,

 

Juan


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Juan Hernandez
 

Um, why these weird stats?

\

My current rig has 64gb ram, 1tb ssd, i9 10900k, 10-core cpu, and a 4tb 7200rpm hdd for backup/other storage.

 

I also have a nvidia rtx3080 that I use for machine learning work loads.

 

This cost me 3700 us dollars.

 

I do very cpu/memory intensive tasks.  What would you do with your monster of a computer?  Even I feel it’s a bit over the top.

 

But, to each their own, and its your money 😊

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.


Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


moderated Re: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

Monica S
 

Thank you to everyone who answered this thread.  Thanks to your notes, I was successfully able to use it.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

 

Monica,

 

Tab through the choices to get familiar with them. Among them are:

Ignore, meaning skip this single instance because you intended what  you wrote there.

Ignore all, meaning each time this word turns up in this document, don’t  change it.

Add to dictionary, where the word is permanently added and will be accepted in all documents, not just the current one.

Change. Here, a shift-tab should bring up a list of alternatives. Arrow down to the correct  one and confirm by tabbing to “change” and pressing spacebar.

Change all. This is nice because it saves you from having to make the same correction in the document over and over.

Shortcuts include “c” for change, “l” for change all, “I” for ignore once, “g” for ignore all, and “a” for add to dictionary.

Some quirks:

On my system, I must press alt with the desired single-letter shortcut when I’m in Outlook 2016. So, instead of tabbing to change, I press alt-c when the correct option appears. However, I mustn’t press the alt key when I’m in Word 2016: just the single letter.

Another quirk: sometimes Word intrudes with an explanation of why it doesn’t like what it sees. When this happens, I’m not always aware of it. when I suspect that’s what’s going on, I press insert-numpad 8 to read the current line. I hear the explanation, press escape, and I’m returned to the tabbed choices.

 

I hope these notes help get  you started.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monica S
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: tutorials on using the spell check in Word with Jaws

 

Hello everyone, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could learn about using the spell check functions in MS Word with Jaws?  I’m using Office 365 and the latest update in for Jaws 2021.  I guess I haven’t used it in a long time.  I press F7 and it gives me choices I have never heard before.  Thanks for any assistance.

 

Sincerely,

 

Monica

 


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi,

I concur with Brian and others who pointed out that it is important to think about purposes of getting a new computer and choose specs based on them. I myself have settled on a ThinkPad for the next laptop due to the reputation of its keyboard, as I sought a writer’s machine with decent specs (not the top of the line).

If I read Jim’s initial request correctly, he wants a machine for music production and related tasks. For these, I think a decent Intel I5 or I7 would suffice (four to six cores), or a cheaper alternative being a mid-range AMD Ryzen (3 or 5 should be enough). Apart from RAM (8 to 16 GB should be enough for music production needs), what’s more important for music professionals is the quality of the sound card (internal sound cards may work, but if one wants to get into heavy music production, add-on cards (PCI Express) or mixers are preferred, and you must factor that when purchasing this particular system).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?

-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:39 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing?
-
This is the first and primary question anyone planning to purchase a computer should be asking.  I have seen far too many of my clients who were sold grossly overspecced systems for what they intend to do with them.  You match your tool to your task(s) and give yourself a bit of growing room.

From my business webpage:  "Unless you have very demanding computing needs it's unlikely you need or want a computer with every available bell and whistle."

People, even screen reader users, who are doing little more than web browsing, emailing, and using various typical office suite programs do not need a machine that's tricked out to the degree that it would work for multi-player realtime online gamers or professionals who use 3D modeling or animation software.  And unused processing power and/or memory is just a dead asset and waste of money.

I haven't seen even an intense business user need more than 16GB of RAM, and very few home users will ever benefit from that much, though if they've got it this will give most of them plenty of breathing room in the RAM department.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Mario
 

if I were to configure a new computer, I would tend to copy Randy's selections, but include an internal video and sound card, and maybe purchase a couple of external SSD drives.

-------- Original Message --------
From: john clayton [mailto:nishantrana3@gmail.com]
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.
Date: Friday, April 16, 2021, 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
ridiculous.
Nobody reasonable would need such a machine for home use, ever.
My suggestion is to ignore this post entirely, pointless.
Cheers

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@earthlink.net
<mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I
would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb
of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.
Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive
speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each
drive. Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.
Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives. a monitor
keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls __
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related to office 365?
If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim ____

__ __

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] *On
Behalf Of *Barbara Sheinbein
*Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: if you were getting a new computer.____

__ __

Hi Jim,____

__ __

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other
ideas for you to consider. You probably want to be sure your
new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses. Why
you ask? If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends
or family, they will want to see you. Only one of my two
computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these
situations.____

__ __

Another suggestion is your backup situation. There are a lot of
ways to do this nowadays. I currently purchased Office 365
which has a very reasonable fee system. You can set this up
with your wife and she can have access to your files. There is
a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep
all your secrets! It is JAWS friendly. You will have lots of
storage for your music or anything else you wish. There are a
variety of packages to select from. Keep in mind this is where
Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always
be the most accessible. I also wanted this so if I am unable to
access my information due to health for example, my family who I
share this with can get access to important information. There
are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to
look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we
decided on One Drive.____

__ __

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of
Office as well.____

__ __

I also have a network drive. This has some duplication with the
cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office
365. A network drive allows me to store and work from this
physical drive which operates via the modem. There is a
password to prevent others from getting access. It
automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive
goes bad, all my information will still be available.____

__ __

Lots of moving pieces to consider. Smile.____

__ __

Good luck.____

__ __

Barbara____

__ __

__ __

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Jim Rawls
*Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* if you were getting a new computer.____

__ __

Hi all, ____

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am
getting, so, I want your opinions. ____

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and
use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a
good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my
primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but I’m
open to suggestions on any recorder you like. How much memory
etc. would you like? any of these thoughts are appreciated. I
am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my new
computer.[Jim____

__ __

__



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle.
The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:38 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not put the files I value on an HD drive these days since the price of SSD has come down so far.
-
I really do not understand this statement, and I say that as a professional computer tech.

I personally prefer SSDs for OS drives just due to the speed factor, but definitely not for reliability or recoverability.  All of my personal backup drives are HDDs because they are very reliable (and have been for decades now) and will generally give you lots of warning signs before failure.  SSDs have a tendency to be very much like jump drives, SD cards, and similar in that when they decide to die they just up and die.  And I can definitely say that the cost of data recovery from SSDs (and other similar media) is far more expensive and less certain than HDDs.

I wouldn't even think of using an SSD as my primary backup media.  Until they become far less inclined to sudden death, and until data recovery probability goes way up and costs go way down, I'll use HDDs as backup media.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Steve Matzura
 

David,


There are things about computers you fundamentally don't understand, and I can prove this by reposting messages you've put up on other lists that indicate you think bigger is better. That's true to a point, but your specifications go way past that point, on to the point of just tossing money around for the sake thereof. . Your specifications are fantastic, even for a commercial data center, but you forgot one thing--the size of the internal drives. 2TB? a 10000RPM drive and only 2TB? 64GB of system memory, 95% of which you'll never use, and only 8TB of combined storage? Come on, man--if you're going to throw money away, why not go for real broke and get respectably-sized drives, like maybe 12TB, making your aggregate storage 48TB.


What on earth do you plan on doing with this thing? Putting a Xeon processor in it and starting Ingram Timesharing or something? BIG LOL!


And of course you know that three months after you buy all of this, which would cost you the better part of at least eight grand, some component of it would be obsolete, or support for some hardware component would end abruptly. That's just the way things are in this business, you know.


And after all of the above, would the songs you write or play be any better? That's the real question. Never mind the hardware. An i3 with four gigs of RAM can produce the same music that your behemoth could, and you could use the leftover money on a promotions budget.



On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


moderated Re: create a system image.

Jim Weiss
 

Dave,
Do you use the GUI version of IFW or the CLI version?
Thanks,

Jim Weiss



On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:

Randy:
 
I use Image for Windows, produced by Terabyte. You get a 30 day trial, then you need to purchase a license, to go on using the program. I do not think the purchase price is that expensive, probably about 50 dollars, US.
 
As far as I know, there are 2 versions of a Talking Windoes Preinstall Environment (TWPE). One produced by Brian Smart for Windows 7 and another by someone by the name of Carlos, sorry I do not know his last name, for Windows 10. Once you  boot into either TWPE, hopefully You should be able to run Macrium Reflect Free, to restore a previously created image to your system drive, using NVDA to speak the prompts and menues.
 
I use Brian Smart's Windows 7 TWPE and the Image for Windows  restore utility, to restore images. I use this TWPE because, I find that it boots faster, an it definitely shuts down the computer correctly, when you have finished restoring an image or, when you have finished using the TWPE for any other reason.
 
When I have used Carlos's TWPE, I have found that when you shut down the computer, it occasionally hangs, and you need to press and hold the power button, until the system switches off.
 
HTH
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I did need a bit of sighted help to restore
-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 -- 

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel



moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

john clayton
 

ridiculous.
Nobody reasonable would need such a machine for home use, ever.
 My suggestion is to ignore this post entirely, pointless.
Cheers

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 12:04, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 



--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


moderated Re: create a system image.

Dave Durber
 


David:
 
Image for Windows, is very accessible with JAWS. I started using the program with Version 14 of JAWS, and as I said, I boot into the Talking Windows Preinstall Environment for Windows 7, and then I run the Image for Windows Restore utility, to restore an image.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: create a system image.

How accessible is image for windows with jaws versions 16 and higher?  can I use jaws to create an image?  thank you for any information that you might have concerning this program.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Bentley
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 7:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Hello Dave,

No, I did not have to do any thing to put Narrator on the boot disk.

As I remember, after booting up off of the boot disk, you turn Narrator on exactly the same way that you do with Windows.

Control+Windows Key+Enter.

And in my case, I use a USB thumb drive instead of a disk on two different Windows10 laptops.

When I purchased Image for Windows, years ago, I was told that it could be used on five PC’s.

James B 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

James:

When you used the I F W create recovery boot disk, did you have to check a check box, to include NVDA to start, during the utilities boot process?

Dave

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Hello Dave,

I wasn’t even aware that an IFW PE existed.  I do not see that in my version of IFW but there is so much stuff there, I do not doubt it.

But, in my post, I was referring to the IFW create recovery boot disk.  This comes with the Image for Windows software.  This is not a WinPE.  It is however, a utility, more specifically, a recovery utility that came with my IFW.  It absolutely does include Narrator which allows a blind person to do a complete image restore without a Win10PE or any other utilities or software.

Regards,

James B 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

James:

The I F W PE tool, does not come with any screen reader. It is possible to create a Preinstall Environment which includes a screen reader, such as NVDA but, why reinvent the wheel. As I have mentioned before, there are 2 versions of a Talking Preinstall Environment, 1 for Windows 7 and 1 for Windows 10. They both come with NVDA  and Eloquence, as the speech engine. I personally prefer the one for Windows 7. The additional programs which are included with the Windows 10 TWPE, I have stored in a folder on the external USB drive, where I keep the image backups for all our systems.

Dave

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:02 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

James:

In order to use the I F W recovery utility, you need to run it within one of the 2 TWPE, I mentioned in my previous email. Although, there is a way to include NVDA in the I F W PE building utility itself but, I have no idea how to do that.

Dave

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:09 PM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Hi Dave,

Assuming that you are using a newer version of Image For Windows, does IFW still incorporate the Narrator Screen reader on its recovery disk?

My version of Image for Windows is around 6years old.  My version of IFW itself will make you a recovery disk that includes the Microsoft screen reader, Narrator.   So a blind person can use speech during a recovery.

However, one would still have to memorize the steps to get their particular PC to boot off of that bootable USB   recovery disk.  It is also possible to get a sighted person to make a one time change in the boot sequence in the BIOS so the computer will always boot from any USB device that may be inserted during PC start up.

I have needed to make several emergency recovery’s over the years because Windows was too corrupted to even boot.  One  time I restored my complete system on to a brand new drive with no problems.  IFW never let me down.

I paid around $40.00, around 6 years ago for my copy.  The do have a 30 day trial version.

I just wonder if Narrator still comes with IFW.

James B 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: create a system image.

Randy:

I use Image for Windows, produced by Terabyte. You get a 30 day trial, then you need to purchase a license, to go on using the program. I do not think the purchase price is that expensive, probably about 50 dollars, US.

As far as I know, there are 2 versions of a Talking Windoes Preinstall Environment (TWPE). One produced by Brian Smart for Windows 7 and another by someone by the name of Carlos, sorry I do not know his last name, for Windows 10. Once you  boot into either TWPE, hopefully You should be able to run Macrium Reflect Free, to restore a previously created image to your system drive, using NVDA to speak the prompts and menues.

I use Brian Smart's Windows 7 TWPE and the Image for Windows  restore utility, to restore images. I use this TWPE because, I find that it boots faster, an it definitely shuts down the computer correctly, when you have finished restoring an image or, when you have finished using the TWPE for any other reason.

When I have used Carlos's TWPE, I have found that when you shut down the computer, it occasionally hangs, and you need to press and hold the power button, until the system switches off.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:54 AM

Subject: Re: create a system image.

Will it run within Win PE?

On 4/13/2021 5:04 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 07:58 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I did need a bit of sighted help to restore

-
Which is true of the vast majority of backup/restore software because the restore process takes place without Windows itself actually being running, meaning there is no screen reader support.  

Most of my sighted clients have no idea how to do a restore even if they wanted to, but several have been very, very thankful indeed that they had a backup that they'd taken on a regular cycle when they had storage failure (whether HDD or SSD) but had to have me do the actual restore.  It sure as heck beats losing all the data one acquires over years on most computer systems!
 --

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

David Ingram
 

Hi, if I were getting a new computer, here are the things that I would want first would be the amount of ram would be at least 64 gb of ram, the fastest ram that would be supported by the motherboard.  Second, would be the number of hard drives,4 hard drives. drive speed would be 10,000 rpm size of hard drive would be 2tb for each drive.  Latest i7 or in this case i9 processor with 16 coars.  Operating system windows 10 pro 2 cd rom drives.  a monitor keyboard, speakers These would be the specs for a new computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Apr 15, 2021 3:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Hi Barbara, is the storage on OneDrive related  to office 365? If not, how much can you putt on one drive? Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi Jim,

 

Others have mentioned some specs, but I do have a few other ideas for you to consider.  You probably want to be sure your new computer has a camera, one which automatically focuses.  Why you ask?  If you participate in any zoom meetings with friends or family, they will want to see you.  Only one of my two computers has a camera and I must be sure to use it in these situations.

 

Another suggestion is your backup situation.  There are a lot of ways to do this nowadays.  I currently purchased Office 365 which has a very reasonable fee system.  You can set this up with your wife and she can have access to your files.  There is a way to do this and also a way not to share, so you can keep all your secrets!  It is JAWS friendly.  You will have lots of storage for your music or anything else you wish.  There are a variety of packages to select from.  Keep in mind this is where Microsoft is putting all their efforts, so it will likely always be the most accessible.  I also wanted this so if I am unable to access my information due to health for example, my family who I share this with can get access to important information.  There are other cloud storage options out there, but you may want to look at those, but after my own review with my sister, we decided on One Drive.

 

This would eliminate you looking for a less expensive version of Office as well.

 

I also have a network drive.  This has some duplication with the cloud storage, but I had this before I signed up for Office 365.  A network drive allows me to store and work from this physical drive which operates via the modem.  There is a password to prevent others from getting access.  It automatically backs up to a mirror drive so if the primary drive goes bad, all my information will still be available.

 

Lots of moving pieces to consider.  Smile.

 

Good luck.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: if you were getting a new computer.

 

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

 


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Glenn / Lenny
 

One option to consider, if someone wants to store a lot of stuff, and not rely on the cloud, is a blue ray burner for a computer.
You can get them external, but if I were building a new one, I'd get one built in.
The single layer ones burn up to 25 GB per disk, and the dual layer burners can typically do 50 GB, and you can even get 100 GB disks for the dual layer burners.
Here's an article.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: if you were getting a new computer.

We are up to Gen 10 from Intel and they are solid CPU's for the money. I use I5's myself. I7 or higher CPU's are for high end gaming and video editing. I also prefer 16GB of RAM but 8 or 12 is plenty unless you do video or photo editing. An SSD is a must and 256GB is fine for the OS and programs. Of course big as you can afford is what I would suggest. I store all my media and personal data on a second drive. 4TB is what I have now in 2 machines and 2TB in the third. Onboard sound and video is more than enough unless of course you do video or audio editing. Then a dedicated video and or audio card is recommended. USB 3.1 is a must And a couple of type C connections should be considered.


On 4/14/2021 11:26 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim


moderated Re: if you were getting a new computer.

Randy Barnett
 

We are up to Gen 10 from Intel and they are solid CPU's for the money. I use I5's myself. I7 or higher CPU's are for high end gaming and video editing. I also prefer 16GB of RAM but 8 or 12 is plenty unless you do video or photo editing. An SSD is a must and 256GB is fine for the OS and programs. Of course big as you can afford is what I would suggest. I store all my media and personal data on a second drive. 4TB is what I have now in 2 machines and 2TB in the third. Onboard sound and video is more than enough unless of course you do video or audio editing. Then a dedicated video and or audio card is recommended. USB 3.1 is a must And a couple of type C connections should be considered.


On 4/14/2021 11:26 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting, so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player, and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and have been using virtual recorder, but  I’m open to suggestions on any  recorder you like. How much memory etc. would you like?   any of these thoughts are appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on my  new computer.[Jim

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