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Re: editing inside excel cell

Morey Worthington
 

Hi again, did as you recommended, changed the stuff inside cell and still cannot, get Jaws to tell me where I am in cell to atleast change 1 thing, or to insert something else like another address.

Thanks for input

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Morey Worthington


Re: Questions about Office 365

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

 

If you are using Office 365 (now Microsoft 365), you really need to have the most current version of JAWS available. If, though, you haven’t done this yet, you will, for the most part, be able to use the product. I cannot ay for certain what isn’t working with Microsoft 365 if you are using JAWS 2019. You will have to find that out for yourself.

 

In terms of shortcut keys, nothing has really changed. Yes, the spell checker looks a bit wonky from a nonvisual perspective, but it still works as good as it ever did.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Questions about Office 365

 

Hello folks,

I got a question for those of you who are users of Office 365. How different are Office 2019 and Office 365 in terms of shortcut keys and functionality?

 

OH!  And something else, I use Jaws 2021. Is it as accessible as Office 2019 is with Jaws?

Thank you for any feedback.

 

 

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 


Questions about Office 365

Leo
 

Hello folks,

I got a question for those of you who are users of Office 365. How different are Office 2019 and Office 365 in terms of shortcut keys and functionality?

 

OH!  And something else, I use Jaws 2021. Is it as accessible as Office 2019 is with Jaws?

Thank you for any feedback.

 

 

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 


Re: editing inside excel cell

Morey Worthington
 

Thanks very much for input, you are probably correct with the link issue. Will do as recommended and reply back with final thoughts.

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Morey Worthington


Re: editing inside excel cell

Van Lant, Robin
 

Morey,
There could be a couple things going on here, depending on the issue you are having. If you can edit other cells and are just having issues with this one, I wonder if the email addresses are hyperlinks and not just editable text. I was having a lot of issues this summer with putting an email address in a cell and when I pressed enter to get out of the cell, Excel would turn the email into a hyperlink. If you are having the issue that some of us face with JAWS slowing to a snail's pace while editing cells, you may want to turn off JAWS and restart it. Frankly, if I’m editing a lot of text in a particular Excel cell, I will often copy the text of the cell into Notepad, edit away and then paste it back into the cell. Doing this would also remove any hyperlinks in those email addresses.

Robin

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Hi all.

Using w10, jaws2021, In a certain cell inExcel I have a number of Email addresses. I hit the f2 key to go into that cell to edit it, but sure cannot figure out how to edit the thing, or add to that cell using jaws.
Any good thoughts??

Thanks


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editing iinside excel cell

Morey Worthington
 

Hi all.

Using w10, jaws2021, In a certain cell inExcel I have a number of Email addresses. I hit the f2 key to go into that cell to edit it, but sure cannot figure out how to edit the thing, or add to that cell using jaws. Any good thoughts??

Thanks


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Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hi Shirley,

 

As others mentioned, a Jaws repair is what you want to do first. Activate the following link it will download the latest installer for of Jaws 2021, when you run it you will be asked if you want to do a repair, select that option and let it finish.

I suggest once you click the link and Jaws has downloaded that you copy the file from the Downloads folder to the desktop, this will give you the easiest access but it's not strictly required.

I would also recommend that if you have Outlook 2019 that you set up your Gmail account there and remove it from the Mail app, Outlook is a much more full-featured mail application with good support for Jaws 2021.

 

JAWS 2021.2107.12 - July 2021

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: September 10, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Good morning,

 

I’m running windows 10, JAWS 2021, Gmail through Windows Mail, and Office 2019 (I think it’s home and student version).  

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello:

 

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

 

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Shirley:

 

I ran a JAWS repair on my system last night, and that did not resolve my Outlook issue.

 

In your downloads folder, you should see something called J2021.2107.12.400-any.exe. You want to be sure you have this program in that folder before removing anything. If you run the program now, without removing JAWS, a JAWS repair will run. This takes about five minutes to do. Try this first and see if your problem is fixed.

 

Removing JAWS is a bit trickier. If you remove it, you won’t have a screen reader other than Narrator (unless you have NVDA available to you). If you want to do a really clean removal, you must remove the JAWS shared components as well. Run appwiz.cpl from the Windows Run dialog, find JAWS, and bring up the context menu. Uninstall should be there as an option.

 

Note none of your other stuff is going to be affected by this.

 

Best regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 5:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Good morning,

 

I’m running windows 10, JAWS 2021, Gmail through Windows Mail, and Office 2019 (I think it’s home and student version).  

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello:

 

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

 

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 


Accessible wiki solutions!!

Shan Noyes
 

Hi all!

 

My company is pondering moving all our security  operations documentation into a wiki solution.  Since I work in the group and am a Jaws user I want to ensure that the wiki solution chosen is accessible to me as a Jaws user.  That means for reading docs and creating docs and putting them into the wiki.

 

So thought the first place to check is to ask this group since there are a lot of folks on this list.

 

Thanks and have a good day.

 

 

 

Shan Noyes

Technical Analyst –Cybersecurity

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Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Shirley Tracy
 

Good morning,

 

I’m running windows 10, JAWS 2021, Gmail through Windows Mail, and Office 2019 (I think it’s home and student version).  

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello:

 

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

 

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Shirley Tracy
 

Good morning,

 

I want to remove this current version of JAWS and reinstall it. I think it is somehow corrupt—but I don’t know enough to know. I just figure if I install it again I might have the trouble fixed.

 

I spent over an hour on the phone with Microsoft yesterday, and another chunk of time with Tech support at Freedom Scientific (or whatever name they’re using now).

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

I think it always helps a lot to know more, as you said, is she wanting to "reinstall" Jaws or simply restart Jaws. Normal when you talk about "unloading" Jaws this means Jaws Key + F4, then start it again by pressing a hotkey if you set one up or by typing Windows Key + R and then "JawsXXXX" where XXXX is the version you have, e.g. Jaws2021 without space. You can also minimize to the desktop by pressing Windows Key + M and then type "J" and if you have a Jaws desktop shortcut and it's the only one which starts with J then doing that and pressing enter works.

If she indeed needs to repair or reinstall Jaws, then it certainly would be good to know which version of Jaws she has and is she wanting to reinstall the same version in which case a repair would be the way to go or does she want to upgrade to a newer version.

Anybody who is using Windows 10 Version 2004, 20H2 or 21H1 should really be running Jaws 2021 for best results and of course if you are using Outlook you should be on either version 2019, the full one-time purchase version or have a Microsoft 365 subscription and use Office as downloaded from there.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 9, 2021 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello:

 

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

 

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

I think it always helps a lot to know more, as you said, is she wanting to "reinstall" Jaws or simply restart Jaws. Normal when you talk about "unloading" Jaws this means Jaws Key + F4, then start it again by pressing a hotkey if you set one up or by typing Windows Key + R and then "JawsXXXX" where XXXX is the version you have, e.g. Jaws2021 without space. You can also minimize to the desktop by pressing Windows Key + M and then type "J" and if you have a Jaws desktop shortcut and it's the only one which starts with J then doing that and pressing enter works.

If she indeed needs to repair or reinstall Jaws, then it certainly would be good to know which version of Jaws she has and is she wanting to reinstall the same version in which case a repair would be the way to go or does she want to upgrade to a newer version.

Anybody who is using Windows 10 Version 2004, 20H2 or 21H1 should really be running Jaws 2021 for best results and of course if you are using Outlook you should be on either version 2019, the full one-time purchase version or have a Microsoft 365 subscription and use Office as downloaded from there.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 9, 2021 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello:

 

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

 

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Curtis Chong
 

Hello:

When you say unload and reload JAWS, are you talking about removing JAWS from your system and then re-installing the program. If this is indeed the case, you can remove JAWS and then re-install it. This has no effect upon any of the programs you use in Windows.

I myself am experiencing frequent crashes of Outlook which are forcing me to stop and then restart Outlook. I believe this is a problem with how JAWS and Outlook are working (or not working) together. Unfortunately, I’m not able to consistently reproduce the problem so that the folks at Freedom Scientific can reproduce the problem on their end.



Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


On Sep 9, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley


Re: Accessible PST Viewer?

Thomas N. Chan
 

I don't use such pst view that kind but what I have and did before is call
address magic personal plus
https://www.connectedsw.com/DemoAm.php

it can convert from one format to another. like from hotmail to gmail, outlook to thunderbird and vice versa and many more.
i personally got the paid version a few years back. i use it for work and my own usage at times to help people transfer emails, address book and so on.
Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 22:34, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:
Sometimes Outlook can't access its own PST files.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible PST Viewer?

I’ve never used one, but a quick web search found there are lots of free ones.

If you don’t hear from someone who has done this already, you may want to check some out.  I’d certainly run a virus scan on the .exe file before installing or reading lots of reviews ahead of time.

 

I have always had Outlook, so have had no need for this but it sounds like a very useful tool for folks in your situation.

 

Good luck,

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 11:47 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessible PST Viewer?

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Do any of you guys know what PST viewer is accessible to screenreaders like JAWS? I'd like to find a way to extract Contacts from an Outlook .pst folder without having Outlook on my computer. This way, I can add them to my Contacts folder within Windows. Anybody have any suggestions for me?


How to load and uload JAWs safely

Tony Sohl
 

Hhere are the instructions for loading and unlading jaws safely.

1. From the desktop, pres the leter J to bring focus to the JAWS for Windows icon. If someone has set it up to have a shrtcut key such as ControlAlt J then pres that form any window.

To unload JAWS, you can do one of two things. You can press Insert F4 to unload JAWS or pres an Alt tab to move to the JAWS window and pres Alt F4. This will also turn of JAWS for you.


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi,

 

How about 10:30 tomorrow, Eastern time. I’m more available then.

 

Thanks.

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

Hello,

 

If you live in the United States and would like me to tandam into your computer to see if I can help, I think I can clear up some of the problem you are experiencing.

 

I’m in the Central Time Zone, so if interested, reply to this message with a phone number and best time to tandam into your computer. I’m pretty much free all day tomorrow and available up until 10 o’clock this evening.

 

I have help fix a few others who were experiencing similar problems that you are describing.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Don Risavy, Jr.
 

Use the insert f4 command or numpad0 f4 to unload jaws and then can turn it back on using the hot key if set up of alt ctrl j or the run command followed by the word jaws and the version number for example jaws2021 or can also be done from the windows key by typing jaws and pressing enter.

So hope that helps.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley


Re: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

 

If you live in the United States and would like me to tandam into your computer to see if I can help, I think I can clear up some of the problem you are experiencing.

 

I’m in the Central Time Zone, so if interested, reply to this message with a phone number and best time to tandam into your computer. I’m pretty much free all day tomorrow and available up until 10 o’clock this evening.

 

I have help fix a few others who were experiencing similar problems that you are describing.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

 

HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley


Please tell me how to unload and reload JAWS safely

Shirley Tracy
 

HI,

 

I’m having a lot of little challenges with JAWS. Mail is freezing up, and so are other apps. Other little things aren’t right. I called Freedom Scientific, but the tech support person with whom I spoke said it was a Microsoft issue—especially mail. I thought he was right, but more issues have convinced me that I need to reload a new JAWS. So how do I do it without losing my mail and other programs?

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley


Re: importing contacts from Gmail to Out

 

Yes, you can create groups in Outlook.  I can't remember whether those sync back to Gmail Contacts or not.

I believe that groups created in Gmail do sync to Outlook, but I could also be wrong about that.  I don't have Go Contact Sync Mod set up on this machine to check.
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