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Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

Jonas Voll
 

Ruth!

You may want to try a older version of Adobe!

I created some editable PDF’s that do not work in the new version!

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of pmbeardy@...
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

 

hello, maybe try openbook. use the save page range option to save the document.

On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 16:10:23 +0000, "LAZZARI Ruth" wrote:


Good Morning,

 

I am trying to assist a tax accountant who uses Jaws 2018 and Adobe Reader Pro 11 .  She is often give pdf files that are up to 1000 pages to read and extract pages as necessary!  While Jaws reads as normal for smaller documents, less than 500, at 1000+ we only get a Document Empty message.  We know that the document has been OCR’d, in fact when we extract a page from the large document it works well.  We have:

1.    Tested this with NVDA as well as the Adobe Read Out Loud.  We receive the same message.

2.    Tried all of the Adobe reading settings, e.g. process one page at a time, read from left to right, raw stream, etc.

3.    Ran Accessibility Checker which indicated that it indeed it is not an image

4.    Checked the Adobe security settings, which indicates no protection at all.

5.    Behaves the exact same way in Adobe Reader versus Pro.

 

I cannot test this document in Jaws 2019 because they are confidential tax documents, and at this time she does not have Jaws 2019 installed.  (We are working on that now.)

 

If anyone has any ideas at all, we would truly appreciate it. 

 

Thanks so much!

 

Ruth Lazzari, Assistive Technology Specialist

Oregon Commission for the Blind

 

 



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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Steve Matzura
 

I'm running Windows 10 on older machines--2012 older anyway--and it works just fine. I haven't had one single problem since upgrading in February, 2017.


On 11/8/2018 2:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

 

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

 

Using the latest JAWS.

 

Thanks in advance. Keith




Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

The Jaws cursor issue is definitely a sad truth, I am currently unable to do a fair number of things in my accounting and point of sale software which with Windows 7 were no problem.
There are, however, also other issues if you are using legacy software by which I mean desktop applications which are maybe a bit older.
In my point of sale software, for example, there are just regular menus like File, Database, Reports etc. Jaws with Windows 7 would read these perfectly well. I could press Alt+R for Reports and then arrow down the list and there were options like Sales, Inventory, Customers, Miscellaneous, Custom etc. Most of these were submenus which I could expand with the right arrow and then down arrow again to find the particular report I wanted.
In Windows 10 this works perfectly as well, e.g. I can press Alt+R, down arrow, right arrow, down arrow again and all that except for one little problem: as I do this everything is visually on the screen but Jaws doesn't speak a thing, zip, nada, kaput.
If I know that a particular report is where I have to down arrow twice, then right arrow to expand and then down arrow 5 times to get to it I can still do it, otherwise I have to ask one of my sighted employees to look as I do it and tell me when I get to where I want to be.
In my accounting software, Sage 50, none of the reports which I used to be able to read with the Jaws cursor are accessible any more. I can work around this since reports can be exported to Excel, but often when I just want to quickly check the balance on a particular account it is just a pain in the neck which takes me three times as long.
I don't necessarily agree with Brian here who says better to do it now than later. Hopefully Vispero will find ways again to make the experience better for those of us who have to use some of these older applications or even new ones which may be suffering from the same problems and in that case sticking with Windows 7 for another year or two is not a bad strategy.
It really is too bad because otherwise I really like Windows 10, it's more stabil and has a lot of good features, but it's one of these situations where it's one step forward and two steps back in terms of accessibility for some users and I am unfortunately one of these users.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith


Re: anti-virus program recommendation

 

That sounds like an NVDA issue, I use Jaws and never even know Windows Defender is there, it just works.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mário Navarro
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation





hi.

Every time Windows Defender works in backstage, Nvda gets Completely
destabilized and slow.
I hate the policies of Windows Defender.
Stupid thing...
cheers.


Às 00:56 de 08/11/2018, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:
I also use Windows Defender. In addition, I installed Microsoft's security configuration baseline for Windows 1809:
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/secguide/2018/10/01/security-baseline-draft-for-windows-10-v1809-and-windows-server-2019/

If you have a good backup just in case, and you're comfortable running PowerShell scripts, it should be fairly clear from Microsoft's instructions what to do. If you don't have that background, then I'd suggest having the installation done by someone who does.

The baseline configuration enables various Windows security features, including virtualization-based security, attack surface reduction rules, network protection (blocking of known malicious Web sites), tighter user permissions, stronger BitLocker encryption, prevention of users from writing to unencrypted USB drives, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Just use Windows Defender

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Hello all:

Thank you for your feedback. Last question on topic: Are any of the recommendations(3, I think) free, or do they require some sort of paid subscription?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Windows Defender works well as does WebRoot although the WebRoot interface does not always cooperate.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Malwarebytes. I trust all my machines to it.


On 11/6/2018 11:52 PM, David Pearson wrote:
Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any
recommendations for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


















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Re: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

Rob Whyte <rob.whyte@...>
 

try turning preview pane off, f8 i think it is.


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler [tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 2:24 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

Hello, everyone.

I am not sure if this is totally Jaws related, so please bare with my question here.

Recently, I have found that my computer boggs down when arrowing down through a list of Outlook 2016 e-mail in-box messages. I find that, after I get to approximately the 30th message in the listview, Jaws and my computer boggs down to the point that I have to wait for one or two seconds to arrow down to the next message. Right now I have about 45 messages in my inbox.

Has anyone else found this problem, and if so, what did you do to correct it?

For the record, this problem has only started to occur recently. I’m using Windows 7 with Jaws 2019 on a business-grade Dell laptop.

Tom Behler




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Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

 

Hi Tom,

I assume that over time a lot of users requested that the tab key should not be spoken which is why Vispero now implemented this as the default behaviour.
You say it should be up to the user and my reply to that is that it is, any user can easily change it and if the user doesn't know then by doing so he or she learned about key labels which I think happens to be a very useful feature everybody should be aware of. I already had set the tab key to mute, but on a new Jaws installation it was one of the first things I did so I am certainly happy there is one less thing I have to do, I guess those who want it spoken are now in the same situation as those who don't want to hear it as they now have to turn it back on where prior to Jaws 2019 we had to turn it off. Vispero will never find a set of default settings which will please everybody, but having all these choices is what makes Jaws such a good screenreader.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Well, I guess that makes sense, although I believe things like that should be a personal choice left up to the user.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

pmbeardy@...
 

hello, maybe try openbook. use the save page range option to save the document.

On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 16:10:23 +0000, "LAZZARI Ruth" wrote:

Good Morning,
 
I am trying to assist a tax accountant who uses Jaws 2018 and Adobe Reader Pro 11 .  She is often give pdf files that are up to 1000 pages to read and extract pages as necessary!  While Jaws reads as normal for smaller documents, less than 500, at 1000+ we only get a Document Empty message.  We know that the document has been OCR’d, in fact when we extract a page from the large document it works well.  We have:
  1. Tested this with NVDA as well as the Adobe Read Out Loud.  We receive the same message.
  2. Tried all of the Adobe reading settings, e.g. process one page at a time, read from left to right, raw stream, etc.
  3. Ran Accessibility Checker which indicated that it indeed it is not an image
  4. Checked the Adobe security settings, which indicates no protection at all.
  5. Behaves the exact same way in Adobe Reader versus Pro.
 
I cannot test this document in Jaws 2019 because they are confidential tax documents, and at this time she does not have Jaws 2019 installed.  (We are working on that now.)
 
If anyone has any ideas at all, we would truly appreciate it. 
 
Thanks so much!
 
Ruth Lazzari, Assistive Technology Specialist
Oregon Commission for the Blind
 
 


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Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

It is. I gave you instructions on how to change it back to the classic tab behavior in previous versions of JAWS. Vispero hasn't made it impossible to have the old behavior, they have just changed the default behavior.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Well, I guess that makes sense, although I believe things like that should be a personal choice left up to the user.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am not sure if this is totally Jaws related, so please bare with my question here.

 

Recently, I have found that my computer boggs down when arrowing down through a list of Outlook 2016 e-mail in-box messages.  I find that, after I get to approximately the 30th message in the listview, Jaws and my computer boggs down to the point that I have to wait for one or two seconds to arrow down to the next message.  Right now I have about 45 messages in my inbox.

 

Has anyone else found this problem, and if so, what did you do to correct it?

 

For the record, this problem has only started to occur recently.  I’m using Windows 7 with Jaws 2019 on a business-grade Dell laptop.

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Well, I guess that makes sense, although I believe things like that should be a personal choice left up to the user.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Larry.

I'll check it out.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

I believe either Eric Damery or Glen Gordon spoke about it on the last FS/Open Line for October.
You can find it on the Vispero site.
Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







How to put a radio URL into a play list file, .?

Peter Tesar
 

Hello List,



I listen to Web radio on my Plextalk Linio. The .asx, .m3u and .pls files were provided by Plextalk but, now the BBC files do not work.

 

A few years ago, the BBC announced a change to their streaming standard. Can I create my own file to play on the Plextalk?

 

I have never intentionally played music on my computer, so I don’t know much about Play Lists.

 

I noticed that the .asx, .m3u and .pls files are text files containing a radio station URL. Perhaps these are called play list files.

 

How do I get the correct Web radio URL into these files? Is it as simple as copying and pasting the URL into Notepad and saving it as a .m3u file?

 

Now I listen to the BBC online, using FireFox to go to this streaming site:

   http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_world_service

 

I copied the address and pasted it into Notepad and into the Windows Media Player URL box.

 

Using Notepad I saved the file with the file extension .m3u

but, it won’t play.

 

I also pasted this URL into the Windows Media Player URL box.

I get this message:

 

Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file.

 

The .asx file contains this URL:

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_london/

It no longer works.

 

I would like to listen to the BBC World Service on the PlexTalk.

I would appreciate some advice or Web page that would explain the concepts of radio station addresses and how to create a file that will play in the PlexTalk.

 

Thanks,

 

Peter T.


Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

Ultimately, if you (any you) are staying with the Windows ecosystem you will be updating to Windows 10.  It is easier to do this now when there is not a massive wave of simultaneous upgrades occurring at the same time.  Come January 2020, there will be.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz


Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Roger Newell
 

I also use the touch cursor because I find that it works better than
OCR in many situations.

On 11/9/18, Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith




Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I believe either Eric Damery or Glen Gordon spoke about it on the last FS/Open Line for October.
You can find it on the Vispero site.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

The JAWS development team is working on that issue.
It is certainly not ready for prime time, not yet.
But there is hope.
Larry

At 02:26 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith


Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Alan Robbins
 

Nice, at least they are acknowledging it is an issue. Hopefully will be fixed in December update.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Today the tech support person emailed me to say that this issue has been added to the bug fix cue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

I am not sure what tech support person you talk to, but I can tell you they are not correct. I noticed this behavior right from the beginning with the first beta for Jaws 2019. This behavior did not happen in jaws 2018.

On Nov 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

Indeed. I sent this problem to technical support. They told me that JAWS has always worked this way. Wrong! So, I explained it to them, again, and asked that this issue be formally submitted into the bug fix cue. Let's see what they say.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

This is a bug in Jaws 2019, I have already submitted feedback about this particularly annoying behavior.

On 11/6/18, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I believe so, that is what I usually do

On Nov 6, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald
<richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

I just reported it to support. Is that the same as reporting this
problem to them so that it gets into their cue for bug fixes?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Just checked my settings and they are as suggested and behavior persists.
This has been true through all 3 beta versions as well as final release.
Has anyone reported to Vispero?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Matthew, this is a different Richard, I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows
10 home 1809, I have Office 365.
In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading
behavior does not change.
I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter
on the Email. And, it won’t automatically read… The message type is
uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.
I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook
2016 so I will check there.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew
Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi James,
Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading
Options". In there, adjust the following:
a. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
b. Check "Messages Automatically Read"
Then ENTER to close the dialog.
HTH,
Matthew

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi!

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened
message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line,
just the message body. I don’t need the subject line re-read
because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s
list box as I scroll down my inbox. Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook
2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins
to read the message’s body. How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

Thanks,
Richard