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Re: scanning a PDF

Ann Byrne
 

Absolutely. although I have found that with longer files the process just hangs.

At 07:57 AM 11/15/2018, you wrote:
But will this actually do OCR on an image PDF?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:35 AM
To: kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

Hi All,
As we are on the topic of scanning a PDF file, I discovered that if you
are running windows 10, Office 365/Word 2016 you can import the PDF
file into Word.

In the folder where the PDF is located, use Shift-F10 to bring up the
context/application Menu. Select Open with and then Select Word.

There will be two prompts warning you that you are about to import the
file and once you have accepted the two prompts the importing into Word
will begin. Depending on the size of the file it may take a while for
the conversion.

Formatting may change so be aware of that.

Hope this helps.

Original message:

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages have
something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually
reached the text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF
How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: scanning a PDF
Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will
not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went
into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the
OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It
still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin




Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

Edward Green
 

Hi Alison,

Yes it is. I'd like to see a JAWS setting which allowed the virtual viewer to appear in the alt tab list of programs rather it than being ephemeral as now.

Cheers,

Ed 

On 15 Nov 2018, at 14:16, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

This is really useful; thanks!

The other thing, which is a tidge aggravating, is if I have two documents open and shift tab between the two, perhaps to make a correction following reading the comment, then when I go back to the document with comments,  I need to start from scratch again with windows key semi-colon.

Still this tip is really useful, so thanks again.

 

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 15 November 2018 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Alison,

 

Yes there is.  You'll notice that each comment has a number above it, which JAWS announces as a link.

 

Press either space or enter on that numbered link, and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the text. I can't now recall whether both space and enter work, or whether you need to use one or the other.

 

Just to note: when you have moved to the relevant part of the text, you'll need to press windows key semicolon to bring the dialogue/comments list back up.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed 

 


On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:59, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

CJ &AA MAY
 

This is really useful; thanks!

The other thing, which is a tidge aggravating, is if I have two documents open and shift tab between the two, perhaps to make a correction following reading the comment, then when I go back to the document with comments,  I need to start from scratch again with windows key semi-colon.

Still this tip is really useful, so thanks again.

 

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 15 November 2018 14:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Alison,

 

Yes there is.  You'll notice that each comment has a number above it, which JAWS announces as a link.

 

Press either space or enter on that numbered link, and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the text. I can't now recall whether both space and enter work, or whether you need to use one or the other.

 

Just to note: when you have moved to the relevant part of the text, you'll need to press windows key semicolon to bring the dialogue/comments list back up.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed 

 


On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:59, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

Edward Green
 

Hi Alison,

Yes there is.  You'll notice that each comment has a number above it, which JAWS announces as a link.

Press either space or enter on that numbered link, and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the text. I can't now recall whether both space and enter work, or whether you need to use one or the other.

Just to note: when you have moved to the relevant part of the text, you'll need to press windows key semicolon to bring the dialogue/comments list back up.

Cheers,

Ed 


On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:59, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: scanning a PDF

 

But will this actually do OCR on an image PDF?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:35 AM
To: kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

Hi All,
As we are on the topic of scanning a PDF file, I discovered that if you
are running windows 10, Office 365/Word 2016 you can import the PDF
file into Word.

In the folder where the PDF is located, use Shift-F10 to bring up the
context/application Menu. Select Open with and then Select Word.

There will be two prompts warning you that you are about to import the
file and once you have accepted the two prompts the importing into Word
will begin. Depending on the size of the file it may take a while for
the conversion.

Formatting may change so be aware of that.

Hope this helps.

Original message:

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages have
something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually
reached the text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF
How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: scanning a PDF
Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will
not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went
into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the
OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It
still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin


Re: scanning a PDF

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Hi All,
As we are on the topic of scanning a PDF file, I discovered that if you are running windows 10, Office 365/Word 2016 you can import the PDF file into Word.

In the folder where the PDF is located, use Shift-F10 to bring up the context/application Menu. Select Open with and then Select Word.

There will be two prompts warning you that you are about to import the file and once you have accepted the two prompts the importing into Word will begin. Depending on the size of the file it may take a while for the conversion.

Formatting may change so be aware of that.

Hope this helps.

Original message:

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages have something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually reached the text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF
How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: scanning a PDF
Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin


Re: scanning a PDF

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

I waited for about 2 minutes. I found out that the first 4-5 pages have something Jaws couldn’t read. If I kept paging down I eventually reached the text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: scanning a PDF

 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.

 

I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.

 

I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.

 

Should I be doing something else?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 


Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

CJ &AA MAY
 

I’ve only recently learnt about this keystroke and find it really useful for finding comments. However, when the comment suggests an error or a correcton, what I would like to do is to be taken to that particular comment in the text so I can amend it, or whatever. Is there a way of moving from the identified comment and then being moved to that part of the document?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 14 November 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi Richard,

 

Give the following a try to see if it'll work in Word 2016:

I recently learned of a command, windows key plus ;, *semicolon*, which opens up a list box that gives you the options of accessing four fields, comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions.  Pressing enter on your choice opens a window that I believe contains text you can select and copy.  A caveat:  I have Windows 7 and Word 2010, and have not tried this command with any other operating system or Word version. 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:17 AM

Subject: Footnotes Not Indicated When Navigating by Character in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019

 

Hi!

 

I noticed that with JAWS 2019 and MS Word 2016, a footnote is not indicated when navigating by character.  It is only indicated when reading by paragraph, line or say-all.  However, if you know where the footnote reference is *and if you select it*, then it is indicated.  The indication is the footnote number, such as “footnote 16.”  In earlier versions of Word and JAWS, a footnote would be indicated irrespective of the navigation or reading method.  Presumably, this is likewise true for endnotes and comments as well.

 

This is a bit annoying because sometimes you want to know exactly where a footnote reference is.  For example, generally its reference (e.g., “16”) ought to be just after the period at the end of a sentence without any spaces between the period and the footnote reference.  Also, the text font of a footnote reference is superscript; so this ought not present a hard thing for JAWS to indicate.  Irritatingly, if all you do is navigate by character to where you know the footnote reference is, but do not select that area, all JAWS says is “space”; which is false since you know that there is a superscript footnote reference there. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution for this?  I have looked at the JAWS settings for this but did not find anything.  Maybe I missed it.

 

Thanks,

Richard


LoggerPro Software w/ JAWS2019? #jaws

Gregory Gerhart
 

Hi everyone. I am a Teacher for the Visually Impaired. My student will be taking Chemistry next semester and will be using a program called LoggerPro. Previously Windows-Eyes made a special script that made this program accessible but I'm not sure if this is still available. Does anyone else have experience using the software LoggerPro with JAWS or other screen-readers? 

Logger Pro Website: https://www.vernier.com/products/software/lp/ 
Windows-Eyes: http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Sci_Voice_Lab/
 
Thanks, Greg 


Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

Actually, to add to the Tab, shift+tab, Control+Y and so on here is my take:
Kimber is correct, in Outlook 2016 and higher you need to press Control+Shift+Tab to move from the Inbox or whatever Mailbox you are in to the folder list on the left.
However, once you are there and if you want to go back to the message list where you just were you have to press F6, tab will not to anything.
For example, say you are in your Inbox, you press Control+Shift+Tab and you are now in your folder list with focus on "Inbox". If you now down arrow to Sent Items or Deleted Items you can simply press enter on one of them and you will drop into the mailbox and the message list. If, however, you want to go back into your Inbox message list where you just came from, pressing enter or tab doesn't do anything, you have to use F6.
Having said this it's not a bad habit to simply get used to using Shift+F6 to go from the message list into the folder list and F6 to go back unless of course you go to a different mailbox, in that case you have to press enter because if you come out of the Inbox, arrow to Sent Items and press F6 you go back into the Inbox.
Lastly, in Outlook 2016 if you want to find Contacts, Calendar, Notes etc. in your folder list you have to use Control+Y, if you go into the folder list with Shift+F6 or Control+Shift+Tab you will not find these folders, only in the Control+Y folder list do those folders appear.
Otherwise you have to use Shift+F6 a couple of times until you get to the navigation bar, it starts with Mail and you can right arrow to Calendar and People. Press enter on people and you are in the Contacts folder of your default account, if you only have one email account it doesn't matter, if you have more than one you can now press Control+Shift+Tab again and the other Contacts folders from your other accounts can be accessed.
All in all Control+Y is actually a better way since it's just as easy if not easier to press than Control+Shift+Tab and you get a list which includes Contacts, Calendar, Notes etc.
Is that confusing enough?

Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

That is just how it works in outlook 2016. The other key combpo that
works is control-shift-tab. Then arrow up and down the list or use
first letter navigation.

On 11/14/18, Sameer <salatey@gmail.com> wrote:


I am unable to move to the Favourites list in Outlook 2016 by using the Tab
key. So, I have to use the CTRL+Y keystroke to move from folder to folder.
But my brother can see the folder list on screen & move through it with a
mouse.



I am running JAWS 18 & Office 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop.



Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 14 November 2018 01:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client



Hi,

Mail, the Windows 10 app has limited JAWS useage but for a best client I
would recommend Outlook , Thunderbird as others have suggested.



Dan



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client





Dear List friends,



I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my
emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail
will not install on Windows 10.



I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which
I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.



Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance.

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India









--
Kimberly


Re: scanning a PDF

 

How many pages is the file and how long did you wait?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: scanning a PDF

 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.

 

I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.

 

I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.

 

Should I be doing something else?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 


Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I notice that some people recommend Thunderbird as a JAWS-friendly email client. I have used this program for many years, initially with NVDA and now with JAWS 2019. While Thunderbird does technically work reasonably well with JAWS it does have its quirks which, while minor, may prove to be annoying for some users. I continue to use it because it's what I'm comfortable using. However, if I'm going to be honest I'd say that Outlook is really a better choice. JAWS not only supports it beautifully but it offers many ways to customize it in the quick settings dialog that you won't find when using Thunderbird.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/14/2018 2:23 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

It’s probably a different strokes for different folks deal, but for me, I find using the favorites section for switching between inboxes much quicker and more convenient this way. I’ve never really liked the control plus y command. Much less if it’s a command I do countless times every single day.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

I have that many as well and I hit control-y and the first letter of the account I want to check.

Maybe I should look at the favorites, but it is hard to imagine it makes things any easier.

Richard

 

 

"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 


On Nov 14, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Cristóbal <cristobalmuli@...> wrote:

Folders. Convenient if you have multiple accounts configured. I’ve got four inboxes and two different draft folders in my Outlook 2016 favorites section.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

I have never used the Favorites in Outlook 2016.

Are these Favorite contacts, or favorite folders?

Richard

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

I am unable to move to the Favourites list in Outlook 2016 by using the Tab key. So, I have to use the CTRL+Y keystroke to move from folder to folder. But my brother can see the folder list on screen & move through it with a mouse.

 

I am running JAWS 18 & Office 2016 on a Windows 10 desktop.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 14 November 2018 01:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

Hi,

  Mail, the Windows 10 app has limited JAWS useage but for a best client I would recommend Outlook , Thunderbird  as others have suggested.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Searching for a JAWS-friendly email client

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

I was previously using Windows Live Mail 2012 with Windows 7 to check my emails. Now I have upgraded to Windows 10 & found that Windows Live Mail will not install on Windows 10.

 

I request you to kindly suggest me a basic JAWS-friendly email client which I can use to check my emails & which is compatible with Windows 10.

 

Thanking you all in advance for your kind assistance.

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey,

Mumbai, India

 


Re: scanning a PDF

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’m a little confused here.  Did you use JAWS OCR, insert+space, o, d?  You didn’t mention having done that.  Assuming you did, as you likely did, then I would definitely run a dedicated OCR program, K1000 being my preference, OpenBook, FineReader, OmniPage.  Interestingly, having Googled OCR, I see several free online converters that may work.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

Hi Kevin,

 

If you have Openbook installed you can use it to read this empty PDF file by doing the following:

1. Open the file and press, Control + P, for the print command.

2. After the printer selection list populates navigate to, Freedom Import Printer, and press enter.

3. Give Openbook a little time to get started, and after it starts it'll scan the file then you can save it in your format of choice of the options given by Openbook

Also, if you want to send me the file off list I use a converter and I can convert into other formats that aren't offered by Openbook.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

I purchased a book titled accessibility handbook  - making 508 compliance web sites. It is a Kindle book. Jaws was able to read all but the text in a picture format. So I talked to the publisher about the problem and they gave me an electronic version in a PDF file. When I go into the book Jaws just says empty page. I paged down a few pages and Jaws keeps saying the same thing. The publisher is going to provide feedback to the writer of the book. So much for creating accessible web sites when the book has portions that are not accessible. Makes me wonder if the writer of the book is really knowledgeable of creating accessible web sites.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

Do you know what the content of the file is (and I mean that generally)?

It is entirely possible that there is no text that can be OCRed, for example, if the file is several pages of photographs.

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Re: scanning a PDF

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Kevin,
 
If you have Openbook installed you can use it to read this empty PDF file by doing the following:
1. Open the file and press, Control + P, for the print command.
2. After the printer selection list populates navigate to, Freedom Import Printer, and press enter.
3. Give Openbook a little time to get started, and after it starts it'll scan the file then you can save it in your format of choice of the options given by Openbook
Also, if you want to send me the file off list I use a converter and I can convert into other formats that aren't offered by Openbook.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

I purchased a book titled accessibility handbook  - making 508 compliance web sites. It is a Kindle book. Jaws was able to read all but the text in a picture format. So I talked to the publisher about the problem and they gave me an electronic version in a PDF file. When I go into the book Jaws just says empty page. I paged down a few pages and Jaws keeps saying the same thing. The publisher is going to provide feedback to the writer of the book. So much for creating accessible web sites when the book has portions that are not accessible. Makes me wonder if the writer of the book is really knowledgeable of creating accessible web sites.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

Do you know what the content of the file is (and I mean that generally)?

It is entirely possible that there is no text that can be OCRed, for example, if the file is several pages of photographs.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: scanning a PDF

Van Lant, Robin
 

If it’s like the problem I was having today, you might also try loading the Touch cursor once you think the OCR is done and seeing if it then reads.   I could see text in the viewer today, but JAWS virtual cursor was not reading it. Only the Touch Cursor would read the OCR results.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tillery
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

Whenever I receive files of this nature and all else fails;  I open the document, though it indicates no text, print it out, and then use another OCR program to scan and reat.  Such as, Openbook, KNFB,  Seeing AI, or Envision.  HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: scanning a PDF

 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.

 

I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.

 

I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.

 

Should I be doing something else?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 



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Re: scanning a PDF

Bill Tillery
 

Whenever I receive files of this nature and all else fails;  I open the document, though it indicates no text, print it out, and then use another OCR program to scan and reat.  Such as, Openbook, KNFB,  Seeing AI, or Envision.  HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: scanning a PDF

 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.

 

I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.

 

I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.

 

Should I be doing something else?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 


Re: scanning a PDF

 

If you're willing to send me a copy of the PDF I can at least take a look at it.

You have to remember that the author has absolutely nothing to do with the typesetting of a book.  That's the publisher's doing.  But if the majority of the book is text, and I have no reason to believe it's not, the issue with OCR remains a mystery to me as PDF for professionally published material generally doesn't need to be OCRed at all, since it's a text-based PDF in almost all cases.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: scanning a PDF

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

I purchased a book titled accessibility handbook  - making 508 compliance web sites. It is a Kindle book. Jaws was able to read all but the text in a picture format. So I talked to the publisher about the problem and they gave me an electronic version in a PDF file. When I go into the book Jaws just says empty page. I paged down a few pages and Jaws keeps saying the same thing. The publisher is going to provide feedback to the writer of the book. So much for creating accessible web sites when the book has portions that are not accessible. Makes me wonder if the writer of the book is really knowledgeable of creating accessible web sites.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: scanning a PDF

 

Do you know what the content of the file is (and I mean that generally)?

It is entirely possible that there is no text that can be OCRed, for example, if the file is several pages of photographs.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: scanning a PDF

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Hi:
You might want to try this---
Unload JAWS and then restart JAWS either from your Desktop or shortcut key then see if it reads.

I have been noticing this problem on occasion with not only PDF files but also when reading a DAISY file with FSReader.
Junloading and restarting JAWS seems to fix the problem.

Original message:

Hello,
I’m using windows10 and Jaws2018. I received a PDF file that Jaws will not read. I tried to use the OCR in Jaws and that didn’t read it as well.
I put the cursor on the file name in my download folder. I then went into the jaws window and pressed the necessary key strokes to start the OCR. It never read anything.
I then went into the PDF and did the same with activating the OCR. It still didn’t read anything.
Should I be doing something else?
Cheers,
Kevin


Re: scanning a PDF

 

Do you know what the content of the file is (and I mean that generally)?

It is entirely possible that there is no text that can be OCRed, for example, if the file is several pages of photographs.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore