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Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

Hi Brian,

 

Ask the person who has the problem to tab once past the edit box with the signature and then shift+tab back and see if that helps. Also, are you watching as he or she does this? Some people may thing the information is not there but they have to tab past all the stuff first like the font, bolt, underline and all that, the last thing before the actual edit field is “Hyperlink”.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Are you using Jaws 16?

No, I am not.  My subject says, clearly, JAWS 2018, as did the text of my original message and all follow ups by me.  Someone else introduced JAWS 16 into the mix and it is utterly irrelevant in this situation.

Both machines have fully licensed and activated versions of JAWS 2018 on them.  One is a Windows 7 box with Office 2013, the other a Windows 10 box with Office 2010.  Both have exactly the same issue with the signature edit box and with not announcing the shortcut key(s) for controls in the lower ribbon as you traverse it.

The latter is particularly maddening as there is no way for my students to learn what those shortcut keys are as things stand when they're rooting around in ribbons for a control they had not previously used much or at all but that they are now wanting to use frequently and want to access directly.
 
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Re: word count in MS word document

Cook, Steve
 

I am using jaws2018, Word 16and windows 10.  You can read the status line with JAWS key page down or press Alt T followed by the W  while in word

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: word count in MS word document

 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

 

The Jaws command Jaws Key+NumPad3 simply reads the status line and while this includes the number of pages and words, it does not give you the same detailed information you may want by going to Review > Wordcount with Alt+R followed by W as Brian already pointed out. I opened a Word document and wrote “This is a test” without the quotation marks of course. Pressing Jaws Key+NumPad3 says the following (I only included the first parts of what is spoken):

 

Page Number Page 1 of 1

Word Count 4 words

 

If I press Alt+R W I get this (you have to use the Jaws cursor to review the information):

 

Word Count

Statistics:

Pages 1

Words 4

Characters (no spaces) 12

Characters (with spaces) 15

Paragraphs 1

Lines 1

Include textboxes, footnotes and endnotes checkbox checked

Close

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS word document

 

Kevin,  I am using MS Word 2007 and to get the word count, I use Insert + numpad 3.  I wouldn’t think that this would have changed in Word 16.  This command also gives you the number of pages in the document.

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

From: Kevin Meyers

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:26 AM

Subject: word count in MS word document

 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Word count is on the status bar.  You can read the status bar with JAWSKey+page down.  You can also press F6 and tab through the items on the status bar. While focused on the status bar there, you can use the context menu to choose which items are and are not displayed on the status bar.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 10:27 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: word count in MS word document

 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, George. It’s not ALT R. It’s ALT plus R, followed by W.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 7:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS word document

 

In 2016;

 

Hit f6 it puts you in the status line at the bottom of the doc and says page 1 of 1 and then arrow across to the right and it says words  and other things about the doc.

 

When you have your answer hit f6 and your back in the body of the doc.

 

By the way the person who said alt r in 2016 puts you in the review tab of the ribbon not a word count.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 5, 2018 7:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS word document

 

Kevin,  I am using MS Word 2007 and to get the word count, I use Insert + numpad 3.  I wouldn’t think that this would have changed in Word 16.  This command also gives you the number of pages in the document.

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:26 AM

Subject: word count in MS word document

 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

In 2016;

 

Hit f6 it puts you in the status line at the bottom of the doc and says page 1 of 1 and then arrow across to the right and it says words  and other things about the doc.

 

When you have your answer hit f6 and your back in the body of the doc.

 

By the way the person who said alt r in 2016 puts you in the review tab of the ribbon not a word count.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 5, 2018 7:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS word document

 

Kevin,  I am using MS Word 2007 and to get the word count, I use Insert + numpad 3.  I wouldn’t think that this would have changed in Word 16.  This command also gives you the number of pages in the document.

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:26 AM

Subject: word count in MS word document

 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

Marty Hutchings
 

Kevin,  I am using MS Word 2007 and to get the word count, I use Insert + numpad 3.  I wouldn’t think that this would have changed in Word 16.  This command also gives you the number of pages in the document.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:26 AM
Subject: word count in MS word document
 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: word count in MS word document

 

ALT+R,W brings up the Word Count dialog.
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word count in MS word document

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, Is there a key stroke to get the word count in a MS word 2016 document? I’m using Windows 10 and Jaws 2018.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Are you using Jaws 16?
No, I am not.  My subject says, clearly, JAWS 2018, as did the text of my original message and all follow ups by me.  Someone else introduced JAWS 16 into the mix and it is utterly irrelevant in this situation.

Both machines have fully licensed and activated versions of JAWS 2018 on them.  One is a Windows 7 box with Office 2013, the other a Windows 10 box with Office 2010.  Both have exactly the same issue with the signature edit box and with not announcing the shortcut key(s) for controls in the lower ribbon as you traverse it.

The latter is particularly maddening as there is no way for my students to learn what those shortcut keys are as things stand when they're rooting around in ribbons for a control they had not previously used much or at all but that they are now wanting to use frequently and want to access directly.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

Richard Turner
 

Brian,

Are you using Jaws 16?

Have you tried the beta of 2019?  Or, even the demo mode of 2018?

If the newer Jaws versions solve the problem, then it sounds like a compatibility issue with Jaws 16 and not something specific to your machine.

On the other hand, if the newer Jaws do not solve it, then perhaps it is one of those fun issues that are almost impossible to track down.

 

Just my 2 cents worth,

Richard

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 04:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

Why would you automatically think that? Nobody who answered your question has the configuration you do. I suspect it's a JAWS 16 issue.

Because, if I were to have a string of, say, 20 people here all telling me this isn't happening for them under JAWS 2018 and various versions of Outlook the logical conclusion is that it is an idiosyncratic error.  They happen all the time.

The biggest mistake people make, and it is made all the time, is believing that an issue that they're having simply must be a software bug that everyone's having.  While that's sometimes true, it's often not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 04:00 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Why would you automatically think that? Nobody who answered your question has the configuration you do. I suspect it's a JAWS 16 issue.
Because, if I were to have a string of, say, 20 people here all telling me this isn't happening for them under JAWS 2018 and various versions of Outlook the logical conclusion is that it is an idiosyncratic error.  They happen all the time.

The biggest mistake people make, and it is made all the time, is believing that an issue that they're having simply must be a software bug that everyone's having.  While that's sometimes true, it's often not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

Jonas Voll
 

Well, you can chek in your sound setting and see if turn off all enhancements are unchekt!

Did you get  the dell update tool?

Try to see if you may have a Bios update!

Do you have the Dell audio maneger installed?

Only other you may try is to uninstall the drivers and re install!

FYi, Intel® display audio,is probably  like an HBMI audio and a Realtek Audio, is probley your 3.5 MM audio!

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

Jonas,

Under the sound, video and game controller in Device Manager, I have listed: Intel® display audio, and a Realtek Audio.

I’ve had no luck with updating drivers, in fact, it says no driver is needed or installed for the Realtek audio.

I’m not sure explaining this to Microsoft Accessibility will get me very far, but any suggestions left?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

Yes I had the same problem, I installed the Dell sound drivers!

You can get from Dell web site or use the Dell update manager

FYI, check your device maneger and see if the sound is using Windows drivers or Dell drivers!

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and after updating to version 1809, the sound quality is in the toilet.

It sounds like someone talking through a tin can.

This is one of those built-in sound cards that have almost know adjustability.

 

Anyone else finding this?

 

Richard

 

 

 

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Re: how to get to attachments in Outlook

Yates, Danney
 

Well,   should be able to  use JAWS key-A, but sometimes, attachments will clearly be there, but JAWS will tell me, when I do this, there’s no attachments.  So,  a couple of shift tabs will get me to  it.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 6:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: how to get to attachments in Outlook

 

Listers: Please remind me of key combo to get to the attachment in an Outlook message.

 

Windows 10 v.1803 and Jaws 2018.

 

Stan

 


Re: how to get to attachments in Outlook

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Using JAWS, with the message open, insert+a brings up the attachment list. Shift+tab from the message body should show the attachment list, right arrow through it.  You can also press alt+f, M to save all attachments.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 6:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: how to get to attachments in Outlook

 

Listers: Please remind me of key combo to get to the attachment in an Outlook message.

 

Windows 10 v.1803 and Jaws 2018.

 

Stan

 


how to get to attachments in Outlook

Stan Holdeman
 

Listers: Please remind me of key combo to get to the attachment in an Outlook message.

 

Windows 10 v.1803 and Jaws 2018.

 

Stan

 


Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

Steve Matzura
 

Why would you automatically think that? Nobody who answered your question has the configuration you do. I suspect it's a JAWS 16 issue.

On 10/4/2018 9:44 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Richard,

           Thanks.  If it's not happening for anyone else (and I await additional data points with bated breath) then there's probably some weird corruption on this specific machine.


Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

Richard Turner
 

Jonas,

Under the sound, video and game controller in Device Manager, I have listed: Intel® display audio, and a Realtek Audio.

I’ve had no luck with updating drivers, in fact, it says no driver is needed or installed for the Realtek audio.

I’m not sure explaining this to Microsoft Accessibility will get me very far, but any suggestions left?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

Yes I had the same problem, I installed the Dell sound drivers!

You can get from Dell web site or use the Dell update manager

FYI, check your device maneger and see if the sound is using Windows drivers or Dell drivers!

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 8:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Sound after Win 10 1809 update

 

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop and after updating to version 1809, the sound quality is in the toilet.

It sounds like someone talking through a tin can.

This is one of those built-in sound cards that have almost know adjustability.

 

Anyone else finding this?

 

Richard

 

 

 

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Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

Richard,

           Thanks.  If it's not happening for anyone else (and I await additional data points with bated breath) then there's probably some weird corruption on this specific machine.

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Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

Cristóbal
 

Same here with 2018. In fact, I had to go in and change a signature and had no issues other than all the tabbing.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 6:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

I just checked with Jaws 2018 and 2019 beta, on Windows 10 Home 64 bit running the latest Windows 10.1809.

Signatures read fine with both.

 

Richard

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2018 & the Signature Dialog in Outlook

 

I am encountering the following problem on a Windows 7 machine running JAWS 2018 and Outlook 2013.

If you get to the Signature dialog,

                ALT+F, T, get to the Mail entry in the Options Dialog, then Tab to the Signatures button

then navigate to the edit box for the signature itself JAWS will not read the content.  If I go letter by letter it's an endless litany of "blank," and hitting INS+Down Arrow to make it read the whole signature text gives absolutely nada.  If you tab around to the other controls in the dialog the various buttons, etc., are correctly announced.

Is anyone else able to replicate this for JAWS 2018 and Outlook 2010, 2013, & 2016 - whether on a Windows 7 or Windows 10 machine?
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    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back