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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Marty Hutchings
 

Thank you Sieghard, It seems a little like we are going back to the days of DOS where we needed to type in the apps that we wanted to open rather than finding it in a list or menu.
Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say "Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following 6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
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Tue, Wed JAWS 2018 certified

PO Box 82 North Hobart TAS 7002
62 Invermay Road, Launceston TAS 7248
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________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

david
 

As you become more familiar with Windows 10, you will likely appreciate how
easy it is to access the universal apps and desktop applications you use
every

day . assuming you do so from either Start or the taskbar. But one thing
Windows 10 doesn't provide is a way to create a shortcut to these apps so
you

can launch them from the desktop or elsewhere.

Or, at least an obvious way.

But as it turns out, all of the applications installed on your PC, including
the universal apps that come with Windows 10 or are downloaded from Windows

Store are accessible from a hidden shell view called Applications. Once you
open this view in File Explorer, you can create shortcuts for any of them.
Open the Run dialog (Windows+R=run), type in:

shell:AppsFolder

and then press enter to view this folder.

apps-folder

Find an app you wish to create a shortcut for, right-click (applications
key, or, shift+f10 and choose Create shortcut from the pop-up menu that
appears.

create-shortcut

You'll be prompted that the shortcut cannot be placed here, and Windows will
recommend placing it on the desktop instead. Press enter on Yes. A shortcut
with the name App-Name Shortcut (Mail Shortcut) will appear on the desktop.
You can leave this as-is, or rename it (I usually remove the word,
Shortcut). And you can of course move the shortcut to any folder as needed.

Now, just repeat for all the app shortcuts you need.

       The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a
dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start
typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say
"Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you
have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot
sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the
following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you
hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do
it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the
System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply
nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right
arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following
6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives
you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in
the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it
will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you
want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed
applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command
Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when
you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did
it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
Assistive Technology | Specialist Services | VisAbility Work days: Mon,
Tue, Wed JAWS 2018 certified

PO Box 82 North Hobart TAS 7002
62 Invermay Road, Launceston TAS 7248
164 Elizabeth Street, Hobart TAS 7000

T: 03 6232 1248 | F: 03 6232 1221
M: 0429 366 589
E: mailto:rob.whyte@visability.com.au



________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Do you know of documentation when coding in HTML?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

hmmm, I have used dream weaver and a free program called html2 for creating
html code, but if you know code, you can also simply use notepad to write
the code and save the file as a .txt file and then change the .txt to .html
or .php depending on the code used.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/24/2018 07:49 PM, Kevin Meyers said:
----------------------------------------
Ann,

Do you create web sites using HTML? If so what do you use to code the HTML?

Cheers,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

While on the web page, press alt+v, then c; arrow down past the search
box and press enter on open.

If you want to create .html code, open your document in notepad and
fill in controls from there.

Good luck!
t 12:50 PM 10/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Joe. Have you tried pressing F12? When done viewing, you will
have to press F12 again. I think this will give you what you're looking
for.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing html source code with JAWS

Good Morning Everyone,

Hope everyone is having a good day so far. I have not had the need to
look at html source code in an extremely long time and now find the
need again. I went to the view menu in Internet Explorer and entered
on source and JAWS went silent. Am I doing something wrong?
Can you not access the source code with JAWS in IE anymore? If not
what is an alternative route to take.

Thanks
Joe

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Re: downloading and using google chrome

 

Hi Val,

I know you mean well when you post messages like "Thanks for that", but on mailing lists people don't usually expect a thank you message for every answer, imagine if 5 people answered your question and you would reply to each saying "Thanks for that", and if half the people on the list would do it there would be 500 messages a day.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downloading and using google chrome

Hi Mario!

Thanks for that!


Val.

On 25/10/2018 14:51, Mario wrote:
you can get the installer from ninite.com which will then download and
install just what you need without any unwanted, unnecessary free
toolbars and similar programs.
.

just find and check the check box for the chrome browser, and find and
activate the download button. the web installer will download, find
and enter on the installer, and in a minute or so, chrome will be
installed and waiting for you to use.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 1:47 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading and using google chrome

Hi!

Could someone advise me how to download and set up chrome on my pc.

I am having quite a bit trouble with IE not responding, so thought i'd
switch to chrome, as I don't know if firefocks is reliable with Jaws.

Thanks for any help you can give.


Val.




.





Re: difficulty uploading large file

Jonas Voll
 

How big is the file?

You may try to split your RAR’s to smaller file sizes,!

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: difficulty uploading large file

 

Thanks to those who replied to my query about a rar upload problem.

 

I have also uploaded to a  free file transfer site

Wetransfer.com

which resulted in the same problem so it looks like the fault is at my end.

 

Will investigate further.

 

Cheers

Tom

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: October 23, 2018 12:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: difficulty uploading large file

 

Hi,

 

Using latest Filezilla,I am attempting to upload a fairly large rar file to an FTP site and although the file test extracts  on my system without errors, it will not extract at the other end.  This has been attempted numerous times with the same result.

 

Does anyone know if this is because of the rar format being used or some other problem. What if the zip or some other format was used instead.

 

Failing that, how  can I use one of the sites where a file can be uploaded   and then downloaded by another person? Although I have used one of these sites to download a file, I know nothing about uploading a file and making it available for another person.

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 

 
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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

 

Hi Marty,

There really is little to remember except to press the Windows Key and start typing Control, usually by the time you type the "o" it will pop up and say "Control Panel, desktop app" then just press enter and you got it.
If not just type the third letter, n, I can almost guaranty that at most you have to type the full word "Control" but most likely it will come up a lot sooner.
If you prefer to have it on the desktop as a shortcut, just do the following:
Do the above, i.e. press Windows Key and start typing "Control" until you hear Control Panel, desktop app
Press the application key or Shift+F10
Arrow to Open File location, most likely pressing down arrow once will do it, and press enter. This will open Windows Explorer and put you in the System Tools folder which is a subfolder of AppData, but fairly deeply nested
Now press application key again or Shift+F10, arrow to "Send To", right arrow to expand this and arrow to "Shortcut to Desktop".
Just for your information, this folder contains shortcuts for the following 6 system applications/commands:
Command Prompt
Control Panel
File Explorer
Run
This PC
Windows Administrative Tools

Another useful shortcut to remember in Windows 10 is Windows Key+X, it gives you easy access to the following items:
Apps and Features, f
Mobility Center, b
Power Options, o
Event Viewer, v
System, y
Device Manager, m
Network Connections, w
Disk Management, k
Computer Management, g
Windows PowerShell, i
Windows PowerShell (Admin), a
Task Manager, t
Settings, n
File Explorer, e
Search, s
Run, r
Shut down or sign out sub menu, u
Desktop, d

Lastly, you can also create a shortcut on the desktop and if you paste in the below text into the target field (where it says "Type the location" it will create an item called "Explorer" which you can rename to whatever you want on your desktop.
This folder in my case contains 173 items and these are all my installed applications, but also included are things like Control Panel, Command Prompt etc.
Here is what you need to copy and paste into the location/target field when you create the shortcut:

%windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 4:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic
control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
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Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: signing in after start up

Val Paul
 

How do you get the shut down sound, and how do you get to the start can't seem to find that.


Val.

On 25/10/2018 16:31, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I was on the Windows Insider program with this laptop and have 1809 installed. So far I noticed that the shutdown sound plays a lot more consistently than before. I had enabled it by creating an elevated task in the Task Scheduler application although I believe there is also a registry hack available which would be easier.
Having said this I'd like to remind people that just because you hear the shutdown sound the computer has shut down. Just a couple of days ago I shut down my laptop in the morning, the shutdown sound played and I didn't check further. When I came back from work that evening my wife saw that the laptop was still on beccause some program which was running had blocked the shutdown and prompted me to either Force the Shutdown or to Cancel and save my work before trying again. Sometime this dialogue speaks, but I find it is not always the case.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

also, the sound that would play when Windows is instructed to shut down
is gone in Windows 10, but I haven't heard of a way to get it back that
actually works.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Oct 25, 2018 11:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

to get the startup sound, you'll need to turn off fast startup. if you
don't, the computer doesn't completely shutdown like in previous
versions of Windows.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 9:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Thanks Richard.

Nice to speak to you again.


Val.

On 24/10/2018 13:51, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your
system completely open to anyone who might access your computer.  As I
recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account
and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can
change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes.  I
think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I
don't recall those steps right now.  Not enough coffee this morning,
grin.

Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.










.











Re: signing in after start up

 

I was on the Windows Insider program with this laptop and have 1809 installed. So far I noticed that the shutdown sound plays a lot more consistently than before. I had enabled it by creating an elevated task in the Task Scheduler application although I believe there is also a registry hack available which would be easier.
Having said this I'd like to remind people that just because you hear the shutdown sound the computer has shut down. Just a couple of days ago I shut down my laptop in the morning, the shutdown sound played and I didn't check further. When I came back from work that evening my wife saw that the laptop was still on beccause some program which was running had blocked the shutdown and prompted me to either Force the Shutdown or to Cancel and save my work before trying again. Sometime this dialogue speaks, but I find it is not always the case.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

also, the sound that would play when Windows is instructed to shut down
is gone in Windows 10, but I haven't heard of a way to get it back that
actually works.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Oct 25, 2018 11:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

to get the startup sound, you'll need to turn off fast startup. if you
don't, the computer doesn't completely shutdown like in previous
versions of Windows.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 9:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Thanks Richard.

Nice to speak to you again.


Val.

On 24/10/2018 13:51, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your
system completely open to anyone who might access your computer.  As I
recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account
and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can
change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes.  I
think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I
don't recall those steps right now.  Not enough coffee this morning,
grin.

Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.










.


Re: signing in after start up

Val Paul
 

Hi Mario!

Have just installed chrome from Ninite with no fuss at all.

Now going to turn off fast start up.

Thanks for that site, and the advice.


Val.

On 25/10/2018 16:03, Mario wrote:
to get the startup sound, you'll need to turn off fast startup. if you
don't, the computer doesn't completely shutdown like in previous
versions of Windows.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 9:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Thanks Richard.

Nice to speak to you again.


Val.

On 24/10/2018 13:51, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your
system completely open to anyone who might access your computer.  As I
recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account
and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can
change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes.  I
think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I
don't recall those steps right now.  Not enough coffee this morning,
grin.

Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.










.




Re: signing in after start up

Mario
 

also, the sound that would play when Windows is instructed to shut down
is gone in Windows 10, but I haven't heard of a way to get it back that
actually works.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Oct 25, 2018 11:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

to get the startup sound, you'll need to turn off fast startup. if you
don't, the computer doesn't completely shutdown like in previous
versions of Windows.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 9:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Thanks Richard.

Nice to speak to you again.


Val.

On 24/10/2018 13:51, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your
system completely open to anyone who might access your computer.  As I
recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account
and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can
change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes.  I
think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I
don't recall those steps right now.  Not enough coffee this morning,
grin.

Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.










.


Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

ratshtron
 

hmmm, I have used dream weaver and a free program called html2 for creating html code, but if you know code, you can also simply use notepad to write the code and save the file as a .txt file and then change the .txt to .html or .php depending on the code used.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/24/2018 07:49 PM, Kevin Meyers said:
----------------------------------------
Ann,

Do you create web sites using HTML? If so what do you use to code the HTML?

Cheers,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

While on the web page, press alt+v, then c; arrow down past the search box
and press enter on open.

If you want to create .html code, open your document in notepad and fill in
controls from there.

Good luck!
t 12:50 PM 10/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Joe. Have you tried pressing F12? When done viewing, you will have
to press F12 again. I think this will give you what you're looking for.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing html source code with JAWS

Good Morning Everyone,

Hope everyone is having a good day so far. I have not had the need to
look at html source code in an extremely long time and now find the
need again. I went to the view menu in Internet Explorer and entered on
source and JAWS went silent. Am I doing something wrong?
Can you not access the source code with JAWS in IE anymore? If not what
is an alternative route to take.

Thanks
Joe

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Re: signing in after start up

Mario
 

to get the startup sound, you'll need to turn off fast startup. if you
don't, the computer doesn't completely shutdown like in previous
versions of Windows.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 9:19 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Thanks Richard.

Nice to speak to you again.


Val.

On 24/10/2018 13:51, Richard Turner wrote:
Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your
system completely open to anyone who might access your computer.  As I
recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account
and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can
change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes.  I
think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I
don't recall those steps right now.  Not enough coffee this morning,
grin.

Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.










.


Re: downloading and using google chrome

Val Paul
 

Hi Mario!

Thanks for that!


Val.

On 25/10/2018 14:51, Mario wrote:
you can get the installer from ninite.com which will then download and
install just what you need without any unwanted, unnecessary free
toolbars and similar programs.
.

just find and check the check box for the chrome browser, and find and
activate the download button. the web installer will download, find and
enter on the installer, and in a minute or so, chrome will be installed
and waiting for you to use.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 1:47 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading and using google chrome

Hi!

Could someone advise me how to download and set up chrome on my pc.

I am having quite a bit trouble with IE not responding, so thought i'd
switch to chrome, as I don't know if firefocks is reliable with Jaws.

Thanks for any help you can give.


Val.




.




Re: downloading and using google chrome

Mario
 

you can get the installer from ninite.com which will then download and
install just what you need without any unwanted, unnecessary free
toolbars and similar programs.
.

just find and check the check box for the chrome browser, and find and
activate the download button. the web installer will download, find and
enter on the installer, and in a minute or so, chrome will be installed
and waiting for you to use.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Val Paul [mailto:vpcara79@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2018 1:47 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: downloading and using google chrome

Hi!

Could someone advise me how to download and set up chrome on my pc.

I am having quite a bit trouble with IE not responding, so thought i'd
switch to chrome, as I don't know if firefocks is reliable with Jaws.

Thanks for any help you can give.


Val.




.


Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

Dave Durber
 

Hello There:
 
I would delete the larger partition, if it existed but, when the program I was using to create the Windows installation partition from the .ISO file, would be deleted from the memory stick, I had to agree, even though, I had reduced the maximum available storage space to 40 GB, to make sure there would be enough space for the smaller Windows installation partition.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

Sorry I hadn't been following this thread, but have you tried deleting not the 7.5Gb partition, but the larger one instead? Just a thought.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

 

Hello Brian:

 

I have a 64 GB memory stick, on which I created a partition to install Windows from an ISO image.

 

Unfortunately, when I tried to use the Windows Partition and Format utility to remove the partition containing the Windows installation and return the memory stick back to 64 GB, I got an error telling me that the "Delete Volume function was Unavailable", which meant that the partition could not be deleted/removed.

 

Following the information you gave in your previous message, I downloaded and used the ImageUSB utility.

 

The problem is, that when I selected the option to zero the USB Memory stick to return it to its maximum storage capacity of 64 GB, ImageUSB  got rid of the information in the Windows installation partition but, it did not delete/remove the 7.5 GB partition, which was the size of the Windows Installation partition.

 

Any suggestions as to what I may have not done correctly?

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

 

I'm not quite sure what "corrupt" means in this instance.

It is possible for thumb/jump/flash drives used to create bootable media can seem to lose a lot of the capacity they once had.  The folks who created MemTest86 have a lesser known utility, ImageUSB, that has as its primary purpose creating multiple bootable USB drives using the same ISO image at one time.  It can also be used, however, to reclaim that "lost" space on those drives that experience it by using the "Zero USB drive" option in the utility.

I've had 2 USB thumb drives that have had the "lost capacity" issue after being used to create bootable media and using ImageUSB to zero them out again has reclaimed it each time.

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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Richard Turner
 

To add one more thing, in Windows 10 you can still assign hotkeys to applications, like control-alt-j for Jaws.
I ran Classic shell when I first updated my previous computer from Windows 8 to 10, and after a while, removed it and focused on Windows 10. It isn't that hard, and in fact, I like it much better.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — Jane Wagner

On Oct 25, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Sieghard:

Thanks very much.

This is encouraging, and I appreciate it.

Will keep everyone posted, and will ask questions as I need to.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Tom,

I completely agree with Dean, you should learn Windows 10 as it is, you have
a desktop just as in Windows 7 except you could, if you wanted, have
multiple desktops and switch between them with a keystroke, you have a start
menu which still has a list of all your applications and you have the
Taskbar which I find extremely useful since you can pin your most used
applications to it and access them by pressing the Windows Key+Number on the
Number Row. For example, if you have Google Chrome pinned as the first
application on the taskbar, then Outlook, then Excel and then Skype you can
press Windows Key+1 for Chrome, Windows Key+2 for Outlook, Windows Key+3 for
Excel and Windows Key+4 for Skype. You can go all the way up to Windows
Key+0 which means you can put 10 applications there and I don't even think
most of use that many.
Furthermore the Cortana search box which you get when pressing the windows
key is a great way to quickly find an application or folder or setting.
It will take a bit of practice and experimentation, but between the desktop,
the taskbar and using the search box I don't hardly ever even use the start
menu any more.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

fenderwal@...
 

Sorry I hadn't been following this thread, but have you tried deleting not the 7.5Gb partition, but the larger one instead? Just a thought.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

 

Hello Brian:

 

I have a 64 GB memory stick, on which I created a partition to install Windows from an ISO image.

 

Unfortunately, when I tried to use the Windows Partition and Format utility to remove the partition containing the Windows installation and return the memory stick back to 64 GB, I got an error telling me that the "Delete Volume function was Unavailable", which meant that the partition could not be deleted/removed.

 

Following the information you gave in your previous message, I downloaded and used the ImageUSB utility.

 

The problem is, that when I selected the option to zero the USB Memory stick to return it to its maximum storage capacity of 64 GB, ImageUSB  got rid of the information in the Windows installation partition but, it did not delete/remove the 7.5 GB partition, which was the size of the Windows Installation partition.

 

Any suggestions as to what I may have not done correctly?

 

Sincerely:

 

Dave Durber

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

 

I'm not quite sure what "corrupt" means in this instance.

It is possible for thumb/jump/flash drives used to create bootable media can seem to lose a lot of the capacity they once had.  The folks who created MemTest86 have a lesser known utility, ImageUSB, that has as its primary purpose creating multiple bootable USB drives using the same ISO image at one time.  It can also be used, however, to reclaim that "lost" space on those drives that experience it by using the "Zero USB drive" option in the utility.

I've had 2 USB thumb drives that have had the "lost capacity" issue after being used to create bootable media and using ImageUSB to zero them out again has reclaimed it each time.

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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

Thanks very much.

This is encouraging, and I appreciate it.

Will keep everyone posted, and will ask questions as I need to.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hi Tom,

I completely agree with Dean, you should learn Windows 10 as it is, you have
a desktop just as in Windows 7 except you could, if you wanted, have
multiple desktops and switch between them with a keystroke, you have a start
menu which still has a list of all your applications and you have the
Taskbar which I find extremely useful since you can pin your most used
applications to it and access them by pressing the Windows Key+Number on the
Number Row. For example, if you have Google Chrome pinned as the first
application on the taskbar, then Outlook, then Excel and then Skype you can
press Windows Key+1 for Chrome, Windows Key+2 for Outlook, Windows Key+3 for
Excel and Windows Key+4 for Skype. You can go all the way up to Windows
Key+0 which means you can put 10 applications there and I don't even think
most of use that many.
Furthermore the Cortana search box which you get when pressing the windows
key is a great way to quickly find an application or folder or setting.
It will take a bit of practice and experimentation, but between the desktop,
the taskbar and using the search box I don't hardly ever even use the start
menu any more.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

Dave Durber
 


Hello Brian:
 
I have a 64 GB memory stick, on which I created a partition to install Windows from an ISO image.
 
Unfortunately, when I tried to use the Windows Partition and Format utility to remove the partition containing the Windows installation and return the memory stick back to 64 GB, I got an error telling me that the "Delete Volume function was Unavailable", which meant that the partition could not be deleted/removed.
 
Following the information you gave in your previous message, I downloaded and used the ImageUSB utility.
 
The problem is, that when I selected the option to zero the USB Memory stick to return it to its maximum storage capacity of 64 GB, ImageUSB  got rid of the information in the Windows installation partition but, it did not delete/remove the 7.5 GB partition, which was the size of the Windows Installation partition.
 
Any suggestions as to what I may have not done correctly?
 

Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Trying to format a krupt usb stick

I'm not quite sure what "corrupt" means in this instance.

It is possible for thumb/jump/flash drives used to create bootable media can seem to lose a lot of the capacity they once had.  The folks who created MemTest86 have a lesser known utility, ImageUSB, that has as its primary purpose creating multiple bootable USB drives using the same ISO image at one time.  It can also be used, however, to reclaim that "lost" space on those drives that experience it by using the "Zero USB drive" option in the utility.

I've had 2 USB thumb drives that have had the "lost capacity" issue after being used to create bootable media and using ImageUSB to zero them out again has reclaimed it each time.

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  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz


Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Marty Hutchings
 

Yes, but you don't get to it in the same way, and I always forget how I did it before.



Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

What function or command can't you find, Windows 10 still has the classic control panel in edition to the Settings app.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I have a Windows 7 machine and my wife just got a Windows 10 machine. I
need to use screen readers to access everything and sometimes have to work
on her computer. It sure would be nice if I did not have to relearn where a
function or command was on her computer. I had both computers on a network
and they communicated nicely until her computer auto updated it's self and
now I can't get onto her computer through my network from my computer. It
keeps asking for a user name and pass word which I never set up for. How do
I turn this off on her computer, so I can access it from my computer again?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Dean:

I appreciate your thoughts here.

And, I'll check out the web site you suggest.

Will see what others have to say, and hope that this entire discussion
thread benefits other list members too.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

All told, I haven't found a justification for the apprehension some users
feel about switching to Windows 10. I can't think of a setting that somehow
makes Windows 10 more like Windows 7 than it would have been otherwise.
There were definite things one had to do with windows 8, but not Windows 10,
at least not that I can think of.


Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
Assistive Technology | Specialist Services | VisAbility Work days: Mon,
Tue, Wed JAWS 2018 certified

PO Box 82 North Hobart TAS 7002
62 Invermay Road, Launceston TAS 7248
164 Elizabeth Street, Hobart TAS 7000

T: 03 6232 1248 | F: 03 6232 1221
M: 0429 366 589
E: mailto:rob.whyte@visability.com.au



________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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