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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

It's the same thing,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

Interesting! I don’t have acrobat reader on my PC but I do have Adobe reader and this works with Adobe Reader.  Tom

 

Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:01 AM

Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

No need to highlight anything, if you open a document in Adobe Acrobat Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by O and then D recognizes the entire document regardless whether it is 1 page or 100 pages.

Also all the recent versions of Jaws recognize if a PDF is accessible or not and if it is not, i.e. it is an image, Jaws will tell you and ask if you want to perform OCR, by default focus is on Yes.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

 

When you use Acrobat Reader Pc to open PDF documents, you may sometimes get the message, "empty document".  This means that the text is contained within an inmage that Acrobat Reader PC cannot convert into speech.  But you can use the JAWS Convenient OCR feature to read this document.  Highlight the "empty document" and press the JAWS layered keystroke, Insert-Space bar.  You will hear a clicking sound to indicate that the layered keystroke has been invoked.  Then press O, followed by D to read the document using standard JAWS reading commands. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/29/2021 10:35 AM, G. Gray wrote:

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS 2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!


moderated Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

I am really curious what didn't work or if the website Udo had provided is not the correct one since it worked perfectly fine to bring up the login and password fields.

Which browser do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

Thanks, all.

 

The northwest.bank site did not work for us with the latest version of JAWS 2021.  A customer service rep gave us a different link to use which did allow us to enter the login information.

 

Pam

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

I just went to the site using Jaws 2021 and everything works as it should, of course I can't log in, but after I activate the login link the Login Id and Password fields as well as the submit button and links relating to resetting password, enrolling for the first time and unlocking a forgotten Login Id are all there. Here is Jaws speech history:

 

Link‑ LOG IN
heading level 2‑ ONLINE BANKING LOGIN

LOGIN ID
Edit‑  
PASSWORD
  password edit‑ Submit Button‑

Link‑ Forgot Password? Link‑ Enroll Now

Link‑ Unlock/Forgot Login ID?
(Personal Only)

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

Hi Pam, 

 

do you mean this page: 

 

 

If yes then: 

I had a quick look at this page on my Mac with VoiceOver because I can't test this with JAWS yet. To make it short: there's a button "LOG IN". By pressing this button a windows appears with two edit fields in which you can write your ID and password. I tried to focus the edits but they weren't listet by listing all controls in this site. So if you use JAWS, press the button to show the popup menu with the edit fields and using f key to select a form filed, if you do this with JAWS and can't access this edit fields I assume the controls are not listet properly in this site and I would contact the web site owners to inform them about this. 

 

All the best

Udo 

 

Am 28.05.2021 um 16:26 schrieb Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...>:

 

Hi,

 

Is anyone using JAWS to access Northwest Bank?  When attempting to log in, there is something that says “login button”, but it does nothing when pressed, and there is no place to enter a user id or password.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

T. Civitello
 

Interesting! I don’t have acrobat reader on my PC but I do have Adobe reader and this works with Adobe Reader.  Tom
 

Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!
 

No need to highlight anything, if you open a document in Adobe Acrobat Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by O and then D recognizes the entire document regardless whether it is 1 page or 100 pages.

Also all the recent versions of Jaws recognize if a PDF is accessible or not and if it is not, i.e. it is an image, Jaws will tell you and ask if you want to perform OCR, by default focus is on Yes.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

 

When you use Acrobat Reader Pc to open PDF documents, you may sometimes get the message, "empty document".  This means that the text is contained within an inmage that Acrobat Reader PC cannot convert into speech.  But you can use the JAWS Convenient OCR feature to read this document.  Highlight the "empty document" and press the JAWS layered keystroke, Insert-Space bar.  You will hear a clicking sound to indicate that the layered keystroke has been invoked.  Then press O, followed by D to read the document using standard JAWS reading commands. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/29/2021 10:35 AM, G. Gray wrote:

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS 2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!



moderated Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Thanks, all.

 

The northwest.bank site did not work for us with the latest version of JAWS 2021.  A customer service rep gave us a different link to use which did allow us to enter the login information.

 

Pam

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

I just went to the site using Jaws 2021 and everything works as it should, of course I can't log in, but after I activate the login link the Login Id and Password fields as well as the submit button and links relating to resetting password, enrolling for the first time and unlocking a forgotten Login Id are all there. Here is Jaws speech history:

 

Link‑ LOG IN
heading level 2‑ ONLINE BANKING LOGIN

LOGIN ID
Edit‑  
PASSWORD
  password edit‑ Submit Button‑

Link‑ Forgot Password? Link‑ Enroll Now

Link‑ Unlock/Forgot Login ID?
(Personal Only)

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

Hi Pam, 

 

do you mean this page: 

 

 

If yes then: 

I had a quick look at this page on my Mac with VoiceOver because I can't test this with JAWS yet. To make it short: there's a button "LOG IN". By pressing this button a windows appears with two edit fields in which you can write your ID and password. I tried to focus the edits but they weren't listet by listing all controls in this site. So if you use JAWS, press the button to show the popup menu with the edit fields and using f key to select a form filed, if you do this with JAWS and can't access this edit fields I assume the controls are not listet properly in this site and I would contact the web site owners to inform them about this. 

 

All the best

Udo 

 

Am 28.05.2021 um 16:26 schrieb Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...>:

 

Hi,

 

Is anyone using JAWS to access Northwest Bank?  When attempting to log in, there is something that says “login button”, but it does nothing when pressed, and there is no place to enter a user id or password.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

 

Works as described for me as well, but if it doesn't work maybe try to go to the Contact, press application key or Shift + F10, then expand the "Forward Contact" option and try to forward it either as a business card or an Outlook item.
If I copy and paste it attaches it as an Outlook item.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Hi, Robin. This doesn't work for me. When I navigate to a contact and copy it using CONTROL C, then paste it into an outlook email, it pastes text into the email, not an attachment.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Justin Williams
 

Isn't there a better program for pdfs?

 

Something we discussed on here not to long ago?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2021 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

No need to highlight anything, if you open a document in Adobe Acrobat Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by O and then D recognizes the entire document regardless whether it is 1 page or 100 pages.

Also all the recent versions of Jaws recognize if a PDF is accessible or not and if it is not, i.e. it is an image, Jaws will tell you and ask if you want to perform OCR, by default focus is on Yes.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

 

When you use Acrobat Reader Pc to open PDF documents, you may sometimes get the message, "empty document".  This means that the text is contained within an inmage that Acrobat Reader PC cannot convert into speech.  But you can use the JAWS Convenient OCR feature to read this document.  Highlight the "empty document" and press the JAWS layered keystroke, Insert-Space bar.  You will hear a clicking sound to indicate that the layered keystroke has been invoked.  Then press O, followed by D to read the document using standard JAWS reading commands. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/29/2021 10:35 AM, G. Gray wrote:

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS 2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!


moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

No need to highlight anything, if you open a document in Adobe Acrobat Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by O and then D recognizes the entire document regardless whether it is 1 page or 100 pages.

Also all the recent versions of Jaws recognize if a PDF is accessible or not and if it is not, i.e. it is an image, Jaws will tell you and ask if you want to perform OCR, by default focus is on Yes.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

 

When you use Acrobat Reader Pc to open PDF documents, you may sometimes get the message, "empty document".  This means that the text is contained within an inmage that Acrobat Reader PC cannot convert into speech.  But you can use the JAWS Convenient OCR feature to read this document.  Highlight the "empty document" and press the JAWS layered keystroke, Insert-Space bar.  You will hear a clicking sound to indicate that the layered keystroke has been invoked.  Then press O, followed by D to read the document using standard JAWS reading commands. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/29/2021 10:35 AM, G. Gray wrote:

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS 2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!



moderated Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

I just went to the site using Jaws 2021 and everything works as it should, of course I can't log in, but after I activate the login link the Login Id and Password fields as well as the submit button and links relating to resetting password, enrolling for the first time and unlocking a forgotten Login Id are all there. Here is Jaws speech history:

 

Link‑ LOG IN
heading level 2‑ ONLINE BANKING LOGIN

LOGIN ID
Edit‑  
PASSWORD
  password edit‑ Submit Button‑

Link‑ Forgot Password? Link‑ Enroll Now

Link‑ Unlock/Forgot Login ID?
(Personal Only)

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Udo Egner-Walter via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing Northwest Bank with JAWS

 

Hi Pam, 

 

do you mean this page: 

 

 

If yes then: 

I had a quick look at this page on my Mac with VoiceOver because I can't test this with JAWS yet. To make it short: there's a button "LOG IN". By pressing this button a windows appears with two edit fields in which you can write your ID and password. I tried to focus the edits but they weren't listet by listing all controls in this site. So if you use JAWS, press the button to show the popup menu with the edit fields and using f key to select a form filed, if you do this with JAWS and can't access this edit fields I assume the controls are not listet properly in this site and I would contact the web site owners to inform them about this. 

 

All the best

Udo 



Am 28.05.2021 um 16:26 schrieb Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@...>:

 

Hi,

 

Is anyone using JAWS to access Northwest Bank?  When attempting to log in, there is something that says “login button”, but it does nothing when pressed, and there is no place to enter a user id or password.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Bill White
 

Hi, Robin. This doesn't work for me. When I navigate to a contact and copy it using CONTROL C, then paste it into an outlook email, it pastes text into the email, not an attachment.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison Martin
 

Thank you, I also discovered that you can copy them onto a USB stick and then paste them into your contacts.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: May 29, 2021 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook contacts issue/question

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

kylee@...
 

Hi there
If you want to keep your machine and your network secure an upgrade to your OS is essential, since Microsoft will stop providing vital updates very soon, and stop supporting it after that. This means that if you call the answer desk they may not be able to assist you.
Cheers
Kylee

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Sunday, 30 May 2021 3:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

My answers:


Your problem might be that you are still running windows 7 and you should upgrade to Windows 10.


Don't want to upgrade and if JAWS will read other PDF files...what's the
issue with this one.

The other thing, you don't mention is what pdf reader are you using?

You should be using the Adobe Acrobat DC oranother pdf reader in its
latest version.


I have the latest and greatest version, so this is again...not the issue.

You also don't mention if you have tried using the JAWS pdf converter
available in JAWS 2021.


I also tried this and this likewise failed.



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George
On 5/29/2021 9:45 AM, Milton Ota wrote:
Your problem might be that you are still running windows 7 and you should upgrade to Windows 10.

The other thing, you don't mention is what pdf reader are you using?

You should be using the Adobe Acrobat DC oranother pdf reader in its latest version.

You also don't mention if you have tried using the JAWS pdf converter available in JAWS 2021.




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:35 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this. I have the latest version of JAWS
2021 and am using Windows 7. I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem. I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page." I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice. Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions? Thanks!


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moderated Re: Outlook contacts issue/question

Van Lant, Robin
 

Madison,
I have done this a bit with contacts on my work computer to move them to my personal. I open a new email message on the computer where the contacts are located and address the email to myself. I put focus in the body of the message. I then open my Contacts. I navigate to each contact I want to copy over and, without actually opening the contact, I do a control c to copy it. Then I go to the open email message and hit Control v to paste it. I do as many of these as I need, then send the email to myself. When I open the email on the other computer, the message is there with each contact as a separate attachment. I think I just selected all and pasted them with Control v into my contacts. Likewise, you can open each contact attachment and, make any needed edits, and save it.

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Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365, Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks Madison








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moderated Re: Blog post on the harmful impact of exclusively Audible audio books, please read and consider

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I am not sure how accessibility is an issue here. the service is totally accessible. So I guess the implication is that not being able to afford the Audible price is an accessibility issue? If so why isn't the exorbitant cost of AT gear an accessibility issue? I get the impression the company issueing the article is not able to compete and is playing the AT card...

On 5/28/2021 3:42 AM, Phillip Gross wrote:
Not sure where this deals with JAWS directly, but it caught my attention, soI’ll respond. 

First off they didn’t do themselves any favors by playing the capitalism bad angle. They lost half of their audience right there. Instead of doing that, why not try and point out the advantages of a wide distribution model. At the same time, you can explain how it would help with accessibility.

I am married to an author. They act like that 15-20 percent extra that Audible offers you is chunk change, and I guess it kind of is but not in the way they imply. The majority of authors do it out of love. They write after work and on weekends. It’s not their full-time job because it doesn’t pay enough to live on. They apparently like to eat as well. On top of that, an author who publishes with one of the big four, I think it’s still four, only get’s about 15-20 percent of the purchase price of the book anyway.


moderated JAWS will not read a PDF file

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


First off, thanks much for all the suggestions.  One almost worked...


I highlighted  "empty page" as instructed

2.  then hit ins. + space-bar, then o and then d


It started scanning...it was slow, but I could read it.  The book, as I said was over 500 pages.  This process worked up to page 78 then it quit.


I sent the book to a friend...he used a program called 'docuscan' and then sent the book back to me in .rtf format...so it worked and I am a happy camper as they say.


Really...thanks for all the help!!!!!!!



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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Richard Turner
 

Try using Jaws Convenient OCR since it clearly is an image file of the text.
I assume Jaws OCR can run on Windows 7, but you'll have to try it to find out.
What I would do is point to the file in File Explorer/Windows Explorer, bring up the context menu with Shift+f10 and select
Convenient OCR With Jaws.
See what happens.
You should end up in a text view of the document and you can copy it to a word processor and save it.


Richard
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Subject: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS
2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!



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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Gerald Levy
 


When you use Acrobat Reader Pc to open PDF documents, you may sometimes get the message, "empty document".  This means that the text is contained within an inmage that Acrobat Reader PC cannot convert into speech.  But you can use the JAWS Convenient OCR feature to read this document.  Highlight the "empty document" and press the JAWS layered keystroke, Insert-Space bar.  You will hear a clicking sound to indicate that the layered keystroke has been invoked.  Then press O, followed by D to read the document using standard JAWS reading commands. 


Gerald



On 5/29/2021 10:35 AM, G. Gray wrote:
Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this.  I have the latest version of JAWS 2021 and am using Windows 7.  I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem.  I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page."  I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice.  Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions?  Thanks!




moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

G. Gray
 

My answers:


Your problem might be that you are still running windows 7 and you should upgrade to Windows 10.


Don't want to upgrade and if JAWS will read other PDF files...what's the issue with this one.

The other thing, you don't mention is what pdf reader are you using?

You should be using the Adobe Acrobat DC oranother pdf reader in its latest version.


I have the latest and greatest version, so this is again...not the issue.

You also don't mention if you have tried using the JAWS pdf converter available in JAWS 2021.


I also tried this and this likewise failed.



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On 5/29/2021 9:45 AM, Milton Ota wrote:
Your problem might be that you are still running windows 7 and you should upgrade to Windows 10.

The other thing, you don't mention is what pdf reader are you using?

You should be using the Adobe Acrobat DC oranother pdf reader in its latest version.

You also don't mention if you have tried using the JAWS pdf converter available in JAWS 2021.



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:35 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this. I have the latest version of JAWS
2021 and am using Windows 7. I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem. I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page." I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice. Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions? Thanks!


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moderated Outlook contacts issue/question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I was looking at stuff on my old laptop today and noticed that I have a few
Outlook contacts on my old computer that aren't in my contacts on this laptop.
So I'm wondering, is there any way to get specific contacts from my contacts on
my old computer to my list on this computer? I know how to do a Outlook backup
and import it (though I've never done it from one computer to another), but most
of the contacts are the same on both computers so I don't really want to do that
because then I'd have duplicates and I don't want that. I don't even know why
these particular contacts don't show up in my contacts on this computer, a
backup was imported, so I don't know if I accidentally deleted them or what
happened. My old computer is running Outlook 2013, Windows 7 and the latest
vertion of Jaws and this computer is running the latest versions of Office 365,
Jaws and Windows 10. Really hope there's a way to do this as I'd really like to
have these missing contacts on this computer as I rarely use my old one. Look
forward to any suggestions anyone might have. Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Milton Ota
 

Your problem might be that you are still running windows 7 and you should upgrade to Windows 10.

The other thing, you don't mention is what pdf reader are you using?

You should be using the Adobe Acrobat DC oranother pdf reader in its latest version.

You also don't mention if you have tried using the JAWS pdf converter available in JAWS 2021.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:35 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

Hello All-


Hoping someone can help with this. I have the latest version of JAWS
2021 and am using Windows 7. I can open other PDF files on my computer...no problem. I downloaded a PDF book this morning and JAWS says "empty page." I had my wife look at the document. It is 537 pages and she can read it fine.


I have tried changing it to a text file...no dice. Everything I have tried has failed...any suggestions? Thanks!



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moderated Re: JAWS will not read a PDF book!

 

How old is the book (or, more accurately, the PDF of the book)?  There still exist tons of image scanned PDFs made in the early days when OCR was not a standard part of doing a scan conversion to PDF.  It sounds like your wife is sighted, and a quick test as to whether this is an image scanned PDF versus one with a text layer is to open it in the PDF reader of your choosing then do a search on some dirt common word, like "the," or to search for a word that can be seen on the screen as she's looking at it.  If the search turns up nothing, you've got an image scanned PDF.  If that's the case, I suggest the following:
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Using Tracker Software’s PDF-Xchange Viewer to OCR Process Image Scanned PDFs

 

The question of OCR scanning Image Scanned PDFs that one knows contain text comes up again and again.  If you don't want to invest some huge amount of money in a fully dedicated specialty OCR suite there is an excellent option available for free from Tracker Software:  PDF-XChange Viewer.

 

The OCR functionality supports a base language set of English, French, German and Spanish. Additional language extension packages are available, at no cost, here.

This software is not 100% accessible, but what you need to perform an OCR scan on an Image Scanned PDF is.

You have nothing to lose but a few minutes time to test out either PDF-XChange Viewer (which uses the "old Windows interface style" and I know to be accessible for running OCR) or the free edition of PDF-XChange Editor to check out whether it suits your needs.  I personally prefer PDF-XChange Viewer.  Here are the step-by-step instructions I wrote for a client who was a grad student who kept having old image scanned PDFs assigned for reading by various professors on how to OCR process them using PDF-XChange Viewer:

Used when you receive a PDF that was scanned without Optical Character Recognition.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader or other reader of your choice as PDF-XChange Viewer is not 100% accessible.

1.     Open PDF-XChange Viewer from your start menu or the desktop.

2.     Hit ALT+F, O  to open a file.  You’ll need to know where it is and navigate there in the Open Dialog, then select it and open it.

3.     Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to perform optical character recognition on the file.  This will be quick for small files, 20 pages or less, but will take some time for very large files, hundreds of pages.  Listen for the process to complete.  If you’re dealing with a very large file this could take a very long time.  Small files are done in under a minute, often in seconds.

4.     Hit ALT+F, S to save the file over itself with the OCR text now included.  If you wish to save the file under a different name and keep the original use ALT+F, A to Save As to do this instead.

Once you have done the OCR processing and saved the file afterward, the text layer is a permanent part of that PDF file, and does not have to be processed again.
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If this book is 537 pages long, it will take several minutes for the OCR processing to complete, at a minimum.  A lot of the "how long" depends both on the size of the document itself and its layout.

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