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etting Jaws to tell me foreground and background colors

Richard Turner
 

I would greatly appreciate learning where to look for information on how to have Jaws tell me details like foreground and background colors, highlighted colors, and how to tell jaws to only read text with certain attributes.

 

I could do all that with Window-Eyes, but not sure where to begin with Jaws.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 


Getting Jaws to tell me foreground and background colors

Richard Turner
 

I would greatly appreciate learning where to look for information on how to have Jaws tell me details like foreground and background colors, highlighted colors, and how to tell jaws to only read text with certain attributes.

 

I could do all that with Window-Eyes, but not sure where to begin with Jaws.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

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Re: scripts for audacity

David Bailes
 

Hi Nino,
the released installers for the Jaws script for Audacity can be found on this page:
https://github.com/campg2j003/JAWS-Script-for-Audacity/releases

If you're using the latest version of Audacity, 2.3.0, you'll have to use a beta version of the script:
https://github.com/campg2j003/JAWS-Script-for-Audacity/releases/download/rel2.2.2-beta-2018-10-25/Jaws-Script-for-Audacity_2_2_2-beta-2018-10-25.exe

You'll probably be OK using that beta script for previous versions of Audacity, but if you have any problems you could use version 2.2.1 of the script:
https://github.com/campg2j003/JAWS-Script-for-Audacity/releases/download/rel2.2.1/Jaws-Script-for-Audacity_2_2_1.exe

David.



On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 02:46 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Does anybody know where I can get scripts for audacity?

 

Thank you.

 

 


Re: Spell check in Word 2016

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. I just wanted to add one comment to this thread, that being the key to generate a list of words which are flagged as being incorrect is shift-alt-L.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 12/28/2018 9:08 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Alt+l will list misspelled words without turning on quick keys.  Press enter on the misspelling and correct it.
At 11:40 PM 12/27/2018, you wrote:

For those who are willing or able to purchase a third-party add-on I highly recommend <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leaseycentral.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf116e6c4a7ab4787761208d66ccdf532%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636816029163235777&amp;sdata=hB6mJvNIg6pgYWh%2BXeEIQJh5WZgAvq8zcs%2BPVftvgTo%3D&amp;reserved=0>Leasey. One of its newest features is a capability which was offered by Window-Eyes but which is not available in JAWS unless you first enable navigation quick keys. With Lesey there are shortcut keys which can move the cursor to the next or previous spelling error as well as to the next or previous grammatical error. I realize that JAWS does offer this capability but I don't find it as useful. This is because you must first press insert-Z to enable navigation quick keys, press the desired hotkey and then you must press insert-Z to disable navigation quick keys so you can edit the document. Window-Eyes offered hotkeys which would move the cursor or caret to the next or previous error without the need to enable or disable browse mode and I never understood why JAWS never offered this capability. I requested these hotkeys to Brian Hartgen, one of the co-developers of Leasey, and he was kind enough to add it into the latest update, for which I am both thankful and very pleased.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FWWW.David-Goldfield.Com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf116e6c4a7ab4787761208d66ccdf532%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636816029163235777&amp;sdata=WEt7PZDftJgOZv6EksCAtPLRbave%2FgLV7aw%2BRGsWCh8%3D&amp;reserved=0>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=WWW.David-Goldfield.Com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf116e6c4a7ab4787761208d66ccdf532%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636816029163235777&amp;sdata=xHbRWxCbilCOOXQrxKAsgqC47T6UrL%2BcSx583nG8doo%3D&amp;reserved=0
On 12/27/2018 2:15 AM, Nate Kile wrote:
Hello,

I use the alt/shift/L for spot checking documents, but on all of the computers in our computer lab, once in the spell checker dialog with F7, Insert/F7 will still announce the misspelled word that is targeted for correction still.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, TechVision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf116e6c4a7ab4787761208d66ccdf532%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636816029163235777&amp;sdata=NZ61hXK%2Blh%2B0CuunZOw31X3GHtyqTfj1CJL%2B6mfNLtM%3D&amp;reserved=0>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf116e6c4a7ab4787761208d66ccdf532%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636816029163235777&amp;sdata=NZ61hXK%2Blh%2B0CuunZOw31X3GHtyqTfj1CJL%2B6mfNLtM%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 12/26/2018 3:42 PM, Paul Sandoval wrote:
Hi everyone, Iâ?Tm coming in to this a bit late, but hereâ?Ts my findings.

Spell Check is unreliable in MS-Word 2016 via the F7 method. For some reason I have not seen the described behavior on PCâ?Ts running the 365 version of MS-Word.
Iâ?Tve advised that clients learn the alt shift L method as a backup anyway, but this has been a problem for at least a year.

Iâ?Tve spoken to Vispero, and they say itâ?Ts a Microsoft problem, and Microsoft says itâ?Ts a Jaws issue.

Not sure what is different in 365â?Ts version that has this problem fixed.

Can anyone confirm?

On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Alan Robbins <mailto:arobbin2@...><arobbin2@...> wrote:

Thanks to all for a variety of ways to spell check in Word 2016. Preferred
the old way but technology moves on and we must too.

Al

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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:37 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Alt F7 takes you to each misspelled word. Issue with this method is that it
opens the context menu with suggested changes in it.  That often works, but
you have to press Escape once or twice to get out and read the word in
context if it's not obvious what word it is.  I think this is a Word
Command, not a JAWS one, so it probably works well for sighted users who can
see the misspelled word and are ready to see the list of suggestions.

The reason it works differently in Word from Outlook is that Outlook still
uses the old dialog box interface, whereas Word has gone to a ride side pane
display for spell check.

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:50 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

I don't like it either, but better than nothing. If you press enter on the
word JAWS finds, I think it takes you to it.  I still use f7, then escape to
find the word, then try to figure it from there.  Stinkin' annoying!
At 09:36 AM 12/17/2018, you wrote:
Ann,

Thanks, did not know about this. Better than nothing but it does not
take you to where you are in the document so you can ctrl arrow around
to see the context. It also does not spell the misspelled work out and
then give choices. Workable, yes, preferred to the normal behavior with F7,
no.
Thanks for sharing

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io  <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:13 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

In her Word 2016 text book, KathyAnn Murtha recommends either using the
JAWS command alt+shift+l to locate misspelled words, or insert+z to
invoke Word's quick keys, then the lletter m to locate misspelled
words.  Once you have found a misspelleing, use the applications key to
suggest corrections.
  At 06:36 PM 12/16/2018, you wrote:
Using Win 10 pro version 1803, and latest version of Jaws 2019 I do
not get full speech when doing a spell/grammar check in Word 2016.
When I hit F7 to do the spell check in an open Word document, I'm
given an option to change language and as I tab possible suggested
correctly spelled words. The problem is Jaws is not reading me the
word that is spelled wrong so I do not know what I'm replacing or if
I want to replace. Anyone found a work around for this?
This does not happen in outlook 2016, spell check works the way it is
supposed to.
Al










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Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Michael Munn
 

UIA stand for UI automation.
Microsoft has been doing work on UI automation for 10 years Eric Damery said from Vispero. Microsoft became agressive on the UI automation.
I don't know why MS put a lots of work on it
UIA only apply to those Office 365 users.


Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Marty Hutchings
 

What is UI? I'm still using MS Office 2007 and it works just fine.



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Marty
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Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Munn
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Everything started with UI that Microsoft put in with the latest Office.
That UI really messed up a lots of screen reader functions.
What is the point for UI? Us blind people can't see.
I hate how Assistive technology producer like to blame one and other.
Instead of fixing problems.
This is just my thoughts.
Do not take it personal.
Thanks
Happy holiday.
Best regards
Michael Munn


Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Michael Munn
 

Everything started with UI that Microsoft put in with the latest Office.
That UI really messed up a lots of screen reader functions.
What is the point for UI? Us blind people can't see.
I hate how Assistive technology producer like to blame one and other.
Instead of fixing problems.
This is just my thoughts.
Do not take it personal.
Thanks
Happy holiday.
Best regards
Michael Munn


Re: problem with text entry boxes

Chris Hill
 

You'd probably better call fs on that one.  I can't recreate it on my laptop with a similar software config.



On 12/28/2018 08:47, William Vandervest wrote:

Using win10 1809 and jfw2019, when I enter text in any text entry box jaws reads everything as it should, except it reads it as if I never entered the first letter in the first word, so thet when I type “wordpad” for example it says “ordpad”this happenes in all text entry boxes, even on websites.

Can someone please tell me how to fix this?

It only began after either the windows update or the jfw update, I think it was the win10 upgrade to 1809

 

Thanks

 

 

 

William Vandervest

Timelord09@...

 

There are none so blind as those who will not se “anon”e

 


Re: scripts for audacity

Mario
 

forgot to add... you'll have to unzip the archive. read the
documentation in case there are any issues to be aware of, and finally
run the installer

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2018 10:32 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for audacity

http://jaws-users.com/scripts/Audio/JawsScriptForAudacityV2.0.zip

-------- Original Message --------
From: Nino Dagostino [mailto:ndagostino3@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2018 9:46 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for audacity

Does anybody know where I can get scripts for audacity?

Thank you.






.


Re: scripts for audacity

Mario
 

-------- Original Message --------
From: Nino Dagostino [mailto:ndagostino3@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, Dec 28, 2018 9:46 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: scripts for audacity

Does anybody know where I can get scripts for audacity?

Thank you.


problem with text entry boxes

William Vandervest
 

Using win10 1809 and jfw2019, when I enter text in any text entry box jaws reads everything as it should, except it reads it as if I never entered the first letter in the first word, so thet when I type “wordpad” for example it says “ordpad”this happenes in all text entry boxes, even on websites.

Can someone please tell me how to fix this?

It only began after either the windows update or the jfw update, I think it was the win10 upgrade to 1809

 

Thanks

 

 

 

William Vandervest

Timelord09@...

 

There are none so blind as those who will not se “anon”e

 


scripts for audacity

Nino Dagostino
 

Does anybody know where I can get scripts for audacity?

 

Thank you.

 

 


Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Ann Byrne
 

Alt+l will list misspelled words without turning on quick keys. Press enter on the misspelling and correct it.

At 11:40 PM 12/27/2018, you wrote:

For those who are willing or able to purchase a third-party add-on I highly recommend <http://www.leaseycentral.com>Leasey. One of its newest features is a capability which was offered by Window-Eyes but which is not available in JAWS unless you first enable navigation quick keys. With Lesey there are shortcut keys which can move the cursor to the next or previous spelling error as well as to the next or previous grammatical error. I realize that JAWS does offer this capability but I don't find it as useful. This is because you must first press insert-Z to enable navigation quick keys, press the desired hotkey and then you must press insert-Z to disable navigation quick keys so you can edit the document. Window-Eyes offered hotkeys which would move the cursor or caret to the next or previous error without the need to enable or disable browse mode and I never understood why JAWS never offered this capability. I requested these hotkeys to Brian Hartgen, one of the co-developers of Leasey, and he was kind enough to add it into the latest update, for which I am both thankful and very pleased.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 12/27/2018 2:15 AM, Nate Kile wrote:
Hello,

I use the alt/shift/L for spot checking documents, but on all of the computers in our computer lab, once in the spell checker dialog with F7, Insert/F7 will still announce the misspelled word that is targeted for correction still.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, TechVision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0>https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 12/26/2018 3:42 PM, Paul Sandoval wrote:
Hi everyone, I’m coming in to this a bit late, but here’s my findings.

Spell Check is unreliable in MS-Word 2016 via the F7 method. For some reason I have not seen the described behavior on PC’s running the 365 version of MS-Word.
I’ve advised that clients learn the alt shift L method as a backup anyway, but this has been a problem for at least a year.

I’ve spoken to Vispero, and they say it’s a Microsoft problem, and Microsoft says it’s a Jaws issue.

Not sure what is different in 365’s version that has this problem fixed.

Can anyone confirm?

On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Alan Robbins <mailto:arobbin2@nycap.rr.com><arobbin2@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Thanks to all for a variety of ways to spell check in Word 2016. Preferred
the old way but technology moves on and we must too.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:37 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Alt F7 takes you to each misspelled word. Issue with this method is that it
opens the context menu with suggested changes in it. That often works, but
you have to press Escape once or twice to get out and read the word in
context if it's not obvious what word it is. I think this is a Word
Command, not a JAWS one, so it probably works well for sighted users who can
see the misspelled word and are ready to see the list of suggestions.

The reason it works differently in Word from Outlook is that Outlook still
uses the old dialog box interface, whereas Word has gone to a ride side pane
display for spell check.

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:50 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

I don't like it either, but better than nothing. If you press enter on the
word JAWS finds, I think it takes you to it. I still use f7, then escape to
find the word, then try to figure it from there. Stinkin' annoying!
At 09:36 AM 12/17/2018, you wrote:
Ann,

Thanks, did not know about this. Better than nothing but it does not
take you to where you are in the document so you can ctrl arrow around
to see the context. It also does not spell the misspelled work out and
then give choices. Workable, yes, preferred to the normal behavior with F7,
no.
Thanks for sharing

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io><main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:13 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

In her Word 2016 text book, KathyAnn Murtha recommends either using the
JAWS command alt+shift+l to locate misspelled words, or insert+z to
invoke Word's quick keys, then the lletter m to locate misspelled
words. Once you have found a misspelleing, use the applications key to
suggest corrections.
At 06:36 PM 12/16/2018, you wrote:
Using Win 10 pro version 1803, and latest version of Jaws 2019 I do
not get full speech when doing a spell/grammar check in Word 2016.
When I hit F7 to do the spell check in an open Word document, I'm
given an option to change language and as I tab possible suggested
correctly spelled words. The problem is Jaws is not reading me the
word that is spelled wrong so I do not know what I'm replacing or if
I want to replace. Anyone found a work around for this?
This does not happen in outlook 2016, spell check works the way it is
supposed to.
Al







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Re: Spell check in Word 2016

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

For those who are willing or able to purchase a third-party add-on I highly recommend Leasey. One of its newest features is a capability which was offered by Window-Eyes but which is not available in JAWS unless you first enable navigation quick keys. With Lesey there are shortcut keys which can move the cursor to the next or previous spelling error as well as to the next or previous grammatical error. I realize that JAWS does offer this capability but I don't find it as useful. This is because you must first press insert-Z to enable navigation quick keys, press the desired hotkey and then you must press insert-Z to disable navigation quick keys so you can edit the document. Window-Eyes offered hotkeys which would move the cursor or caret to the next or previous error without the need to enable or disable browse mode and I never understood why JAWS never offered this capability. I requested these hotkeys to Brian Hartgen, one of the co-developers of Leasey, and he was kind enough to add it into the latest update, for which I am both thankful and very pleased.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 12/27/2018 2:15 AM, Nate Kile wrote:
Hello,

I use the alt/shift/L for spot checking documents, but on all of the computers in our computer lab, once in the spell checker dialog with F7, Insert/F7 will still announce the misspelled word that is targeted for correction still.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, TechVision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.yourtechvision.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C058aa17668e2490a4cc108d66bcae86e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636814916553171446&amp;sdata=9aqvETSggNLk3msnsazdpsbGLV4J4fi2RQ9t%2B1ao9yA%3D&amp;reserved=0




On 12/26/2018 3:42 PM, Paul Sandoval wrote:
Hi everyone, I’m coming in to this a bit late, but here’s my findings.

Spell Check is unreliable in MS-Word 2016 via the F7 method. For some reason I have not seen the described behavior on PC’s running the 365 version of MS-Word.
I’ve advised that clients learn the alt shift L method as a backup anyway, but this has been a problem for at least a year.

I’ve spoken to Vispero, and they say it’s a Microsoft problem, and Microsoft says it’s a Jaws issue.

Not sure what is different in 365’s version that has this problem fixed.

Can anyone confirm?

On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbin2@...> wrote:

Thanks to all for a variety of ways to spell check in Word 2016. Preferred
the old way but technology moves on and we must too.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

Alt F7 takes you to each misspelled word. Issue with this method is that it
opens the context menu with suggested changes in it.  That often works, but
you have to press Escape once or twice to get out and read the word in
context if it's not obvious what word it is.  I think this is a Word
Command, not a JAWS one, so it probably works well for sighted users who can
see the misspelled word and are ready to see the list of suggestions.

The reason it works differently in Word from Outlook is that Outlook still
uses the old dialog box interface, whereas Word has gone to a ride side pane
display for spell check.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

I don't like it either, but better than nothing. If you press enter on the
word JAWS finds, I think it takes you to it.  I still use f7, then escape to
find the word, then try to figure it from there.  Stinkin' annoying!
At 09:36 AM 12/17/2018, you wrote:
Ann,

Thanks, did not know about this. Better than nothing but it does not
take you to where you are in the document so you can ctrl arrow around
to see the context. It also does not spell the misspelled work out and
then give choices. Workable, yes, preferred to the normal behavior with F7,
no.
Thanks for sharing

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spell check in Word 2016

In her Word 2016 text book, KathyAnn Murtha recommends either using the
JAWS command alt+shift+l to locate misspelled words, or insert+z to
invoke Word's quick keys, then the lletter m to locate misspelled
words.  Once you have found a misspelleing, use the applications key to
suggest corrections.
  At 06:36 PM 12/16/2018, you wrote:
Using Win 10 pro version 1803, and latest version of Jaws 2019 I do
not get full speech when doing a spell/grammar check in Word 2016.
When I hit F7 to do the spell check in an open Word document, I'm
given an option to change language and as I tab possible suggested
correctly spelled words. The problem is Jaws is not reading me the
word that is spelled wrong so I do not know what I'm replacing or if
I want to replace. Anyone found a work around for this?
This does not happen in outlook 2016, spell check works the way it is
supposed to.
Al












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Anyone aware of the html validator called "CSS html validator?"

Richard Turner
 

Jaws will not read any of the text when opening an html file with CSS HTML Validator.

 

How do I determine the problem like how to discovered what window class is being used or how to reclass windows with Jaws?

I knew how to do this with Window-Eyes.

 

Thanks for any help,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

You’re very welcome, Tom. I’m glad I had some information that could help you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Bill:

 

I finally got around to downloading and installing the silenzio program for preventing my sound card in the new Windows 10 computer from going to sleep.

 

It seems to work flawlessly, so thanks much for the program link.

 

Hopefully, others who have this issue will benefit from it as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. There is a program called Silenzio which is supposed to keep the sound card from going to sleep.

 

Try downloading it from the following link.

 

Download Silenzio here

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Bill:

 

It happens with Narrator too.

 

I’m not sure what to do from here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

 

I finally got around to downloading and installing the silenzio program for preventing my sound card in the new Windows 10 computer from going to sleep.

 

It seems to work flawlessly, so thanks much for the program link.

 

Hopefully, others who have this issue will benefit from it as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. There is a program called Silenzio which is supposed to keep the sound card from going to sleep.

 

Try downloading it from the following link.

 

Download Silenzio here

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Bill:

 

It happens with Narrator too.

 

I’m not sure what to do from here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: CSS HTML Validator

Richard Turner
 

Nope.  I’ve used NoteTab Pro since the early 2000’s and while it has not been updated in a long time, it works great, well, other than Jaws being a turkey.

 

I may be forced to look into other software if I cannot get Jaws to work properly.

 

I’m sure it is not all Jaws, but some of the newer Windows 10 “features” too.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

I heard Droople works with Jaws. I havn’t tried it. In the near future I will. Did you try Brackets? I was having a hard time with it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

NoteTab Pro.  However, it too doesn’t get along as well with Jaws as Window-Eyes did.

This is the part of the forced conversion to Jaws that still irritates me.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, What editor do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

 

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

 

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

 

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

 

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

 

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

 

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

 

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:25 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CSS HTML Validator

 

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

 

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: CSS HTML Validator

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

I heard Droople works with Jaws. I havn’t tried it. In the near future I will. Did you try Brackets? I was having a hard time with it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

NoteTab Pro.  However, it too doesn’t get along as well with Jaws as Window-Eyes did.

This is the part of the forced conversion to Jaws that still irritates me.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, What editor do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

 

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

 

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

 

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

 

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

 

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

 

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

 

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:25 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CSS HTML Validator

 

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

 

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: CSS HTML Validator

Richard Turner
 

NoteTab Pro.  However, it too doesn’t get along as well with Jaws as Window-Eyes did.

This is the part of the forced conversion to Jaws that still irritates me.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, What editor do you use?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Kevin thanks, but that is only an online validator where CSS HTML Validator is a professional program that is far more customizable.  I did not find anything specific to accessibility with the one you sent.

 

It would appear I either need to convince the program developer of CSS HTML Validator to hire a scripter or see if I can use NVDA or Narrator.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

I do want to say that while I prefer a package like CSS HTML Validator, I am by no means a professional.  Web pages are a hobby and other than my own, I do one for a nonprofit on a volunteer basis, so I am nothing close to an expert and am pretty much self taught.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

Richard, I looked into using the validator below. I’m not sure if this does the same as the one you were using. I’m just getting into web  development. I tried a few times and was able to get the least of error/warning messages. I know there is some other options which I have not used. This is put out by the W3C organization.

 

The URL is https://validator.w3.org

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

The name is “CSS HTML Validator” which is why I put that in the subject.

It checks for all kinds of html coding errors and has a setting particularly for accessibility.  I’ve used it since 2009.

Not as often in the last couple of years since having to switch to Jaws. 

With Jaws, not much works.  I cannot even simply read the contents of the file.  Let alone the highlighted area that shows up in a different panel with the errors or warnings or just messages with useful information.

 

If I switch to the touch cursor, I can read one line.  Not very useful.

 

With Window-Eyes, I could read everything and was able to define a window and hotkey to read the error messages.

 

Partly it is no doubt my ignorance of Jaws, but I think there are other issues Jaws has with this program and I’m not a scripter and will never become one, so was hoping someone out there had used this software and figured stuff out.

 

Fortunately I had gotten my own web sites fixed while I was using Window-eyes, but I’m now trying to give specific feedback to a company about their web site that is beyond awful and they seem to need some very specific examples of why their web site is awful as they think their stuff doesn’t stink….

 

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CSS HTML Validator

 

What is the name of the validator you used? Is this to check your markup to provide any errors / warnings related to W3C standards?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:25 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: CSS HTML Validator

 

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

 

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips