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Re: Yahoo! Fantasy Sports: Any Nonvisual Way To Edit Pre-Draft Player Rankings?

 

Kane,

            Is this something that can be played with on a demo page without being logged in or joining something?

            I'd be curious to play with it to see what I can determine.   Although I have no interest in sports, I do have an interest in finding accessibility workarounds and stuff like this has to be used on more than the page you mention, but I'd have no idea where to find it otherwise for experimentation.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Google Docs

Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
 

Hello Angie,

 

Here is a link to some training material from Freedom Scientific covering the use of JAWS with Google Docs: https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-09-11_googledocs-l1/02_2015-09-11_Google_Docs_with_JAWS_and_MAGic_Lesson_One.htm

 

I hope this helps you get started.

 

Best regards,

 

Darrell

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angie Goodnight
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 7:52 AM
To: 'jfw@groups.io' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Google Docs

 

Hi All,

My job is requiring me to start using Google Docs. Jaws seems to not read the documents for me. Do I need to do something to my Jaws to get it to work. I am using the newest version of Jaws. Any advice would help!!

 

Thank you,

Angie

 

 


Re: Big problem please help!!

Marty Hutchings
 

You have to download the 52 set up file then immediately physically disconnect your computer from the internet by unplugging the cable. The reason for this is that the second you install Firefox 52, it will seek to install the latest upgrade and as you know, it is not compatible with JAWS 13. Before you re-connect the internet cable, run the set-up file and install 52 and run Firefox. Go to settings and turn off Automatically update. Then shut down and re-connect your internet and start your computer. This should fix the problem for you. HTH



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

just a heads up: after installing 52, immediately disconnect from the
Internet, otherwise Firefox will detect you are at an earlier version
and automatically upgrade to the recent version, and then you'll have to
uninstall and reinstall it, being sure to disconnect before setting 52
to never update.

or as Richard said, consider upgrading JAWS to 2019 which will be
compatible with Firefox 65.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019, 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Big problem please help!!

Here is a link to the Firefox page to get Firefox 52 ESR I believe,
which may work with Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Be sure and go into the
Firefox settings and turn off updates.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Milton meant to say Windows 7 will have no support next year, not
Windows 10.

You may want to look into the Home subscription for $90 per year to have
the latest Jaws.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:29 AM
To: alapointe89@comcast.net
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

Hello,

Your best choice is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and Windows 10 if you can
afford it.

Windows 10 will have no support from Microsoft after January 14 2020 and
even you upgrade and/or install Google Chrome your version of JAWS
13 will still not work as expected as there has been a lot of changes to
Google Chrome and more changes are coming.

Original message:
Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7. My problem is, my firefox
brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access
is turned off...Can’t use Firefox. I can use but, very limited
Internet explorer. How could I access the internet without spending an
upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.? Thank you so very much for any help...
p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point. Andy
and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe President, Friends of the Salem Council
on Aging P.O. Box 1077 Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 Cell,
978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled
Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Yahoo! Fantasy Sports: Any Nonvisual Way To Edit Pre-Draft Player Rankings?

Kane Brolin
 

I am frustrated every year at this time, because as I prepare to
indulge my Fantasy Baseball habit, I never can seem to manipulate MLB
player rankings on the Yahoo! platform to change my personal preferred
rank order as the league I am in prepares for an auto-draft.

I have tried JAWS 2018 both with Firefox and with Internet Explorer.
I have not yet attempted this via Chrome or via a connected Mobile
Apple device. I know I somehow must click and drag, but the JAWS
Cursor does not seem to work within the list of default players that
Yahoo! has ranked by default.

I get that this is a specialized recreational interest, so I won't
bother to explain Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball is about to anyone who does
not already relate to MLB. But those on this list who share my
interest or my frustration know who you are.

Thanks in advance for your help.

-Kane


Re: Big problem please help!!

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

Thanks, I didn’t realize that.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 09:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

 

Ed, No.  Google Chrome requires a much newer version of JAWS than 13.

 

Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ed Legge

Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 05:19

Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

 

You could switch to Google Chroam.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 07:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Big problem please help!!

 

Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7.  My problem is, my firefox brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access is turned off...Can’t use Firefox.  I can use but, very limited Internet explorer.  How could I access the internet without spending an upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.?  Thank you so very much for any help...

p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
President, Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O. Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289
Cell, 978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Re: Big problem please help!!

Dave...
 


Ed, No.  Google Chrome requires a much newer version of JAWS than 13.
 
Dave
Oregonite, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Legge
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 05:19
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

You could switch to Google Chroam.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 07:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Big problem please help!!

 

Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7.  My problem is, my firefox brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access is turned off...Can’t use Firefox.  I can use but, very limited Internet explorer.  How could I access the internet without spending an upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.?  Thank you so very much for any help...

p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
President, Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O. Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289
Cell, 978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Re: Big problem please help!!

Mario
 

just a heads up: after installing 52, immediately disconnect from the
Internet, otherwise Firefox will detect you are at an earlier version
and automatically upgrade to the recent version, and then you'll have to
uninstall and reinstall it, being sure to disconnect before setting 52
to never update.

or as Richard said, consider upgrading JAWS to 2019 which will be
compatible with Firefox 65.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019, 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Big problem please help!!

Here is a link to the Firefox page to get Firefox 52 ESR I believe,
which may work with Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Be sure and go into the
Firefox settings and turn off updates.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Milton meant to say Windows 7 will have no support next year, not
Windows 10.

You may want to look into the Home subscription for $90 per year to have
the latest Jaws.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:29 AM
To: alapointe89@comcast.net
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

Hello,

Your best choice is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and Windows 10 if you can
afford it.

Windows 10 will have no support from Microsoft after January 14 2020 and
even you upgrade and/or install Google Chrome your version of JAWS
13 will still not work as expected as there has been a lot of changes to
Google Chrome and more changes are coming.

Original message:
Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7. My problem is, my firefox
brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access
is turned off...Can’t use Firefox. I can use but, very limited
Internet explorer. How could I access the internet without spending an
upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.? Thank you so very much for any help...
p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point. Andy
and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe President, Friends of the Salem Council
on Aging P.O. Box 1077 Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 Cell,
978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled
Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Microsoft Asks Users to Call Windows 10 Devs About ALT+TAB Feature

 

Given how frequently community members use ALT+TAB for application switching, and given how odd this message would seem on the surface if it appeared in your notifications or action center, I thought it worth sharing this article, as it appears to be something most would wish to participate in if the opportunity presents itself:

Microsoft Asks Users to Call Windows 10 Devs About ALT+TAB Feature
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Big problem please help!!

Richard Turner
 

Here is a link to the Firefox page to get Firefox 52 ESR I believe, which may work with Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Be sure and go into the Firefox settings and turn off updates.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Milton meant to say Windows 7 will have no support next year, not Windows 10.

You may want to look into the Home subscription for $90 per year to have the latest Jaws.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 5:29 AM
To: alapointe89@comcast.net
Cc: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problem please help!!

Hello,

Your best choice is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and Windows 10 if you can afford it.

Windows 10 will have no support from Microsoft after January 14 2020 and even you upgrade and/or install Google Chrome your version of JAWS
13 will still not work as expected as there has been a lot of changes to Google Chrome and more changes are coming.

Original message:
Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7. My problem is, my firefox
brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access
is turned off...Can’t use Firefox. I can use but, very limited
Internet explorer. How could I access the internet without spending an
upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.? Thank you so very much for any help...
p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point. Andy
and Shubert Andrew J. LaPointe President, Friends of the Salem Council
on Aging P.O. Box 1077 Salem, MA. 01970 Home, 978-745-4289 Cell,
978-578-0185
Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled
Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Re: Big problem please help!!

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Hello,

Your best choice is to upgrade to JAWS 2019 and Windows 10 if you can afford it.

Windows 10 will have no support from Microsoft after January 14 2020 and even you upgrade and/or install Google Chrome your version of JAWS 13 will still not work as expected as there has been a lot of changes to Google Chrome and more changes are coming.

Original message:

Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7. My problem is, my firefox brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access is turned off...Can’t use Firefox. I can use but, very limited Internet explorer. How could I access the internet without spending an upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.? Thank you so very much for any help...
p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point. Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
President, Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O. Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289
Cell, 978-578-0185
Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Re: Big problem please help!!

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

You could switch to Google Chroam.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 07:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Big problem please help!!

 

Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7.  My problem is, my firefox brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access is turned off...Can’t use Firefox.  I can use but, very limited Internet explorer.  How could I access the internet without spending an upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.?  Thank you so very much for any help...

p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe
President, Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O. Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289
Cell, 978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Big problem please help!!

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I am using jaws 13 with windows 7.  My problem is, my firefox brower updated and it says that due to my version of jaws, the access is turned off...Can’t use Firefox.  I can use but, very limited Internet explorer.  How could I access the internet without spending an upgrade of jaws and using windows 7.?  Thank you so very much for any help...
p.s. I have to download some tax docs but, can’t at this point.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
President, Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O. Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289
Cell, 978-578-0185

Editor of the Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook at T.I.C.


Re: turning off announcement of...

Richard Turner
 


i believe in Jaws 2018. 
With Windows 10 you can also blank the screen like on an iPhone with inser-spacebar then f11.
I believe that was mentioned in the What's New with Jaws 2018,.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Mar 11, 2019, at 2:16 AM, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@...> wrote:

When was the speech on demand option introduced? So glad to know about it now.

On 3/9/19, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@...> wrote:
...Or when in a meeting with Zoom and you don't want to here the
announcements when someone enters or leaves the meeting.  Very good.  This
will be usefull to know.  Thanks.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

Speech on demand silences Jaws until you press a key combination to read
something specific, like insert+up-arrow to read the current line.
It is useful if you don't want jaws chattering away for no apparent reason,

or when a screen is refreshing or a ticker item is changing value like
during a download, or when streaming audio.
I use it mostly when streaming audio, especially if I am wanting to record
that stream and don't want Jaws interrupting.
The command is insert+spacebar followed by s.
The same command puts it back to full speech.

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

What is Speech on demand and when would one use it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

OK.
I did not know that Jaws command.
I just had my wife check and the text is not on the screen, but obviously
Jaws speaks it.
Anyone can open any program using the mouse or touchpad however, even
though
they cannot type.
So, perhaps a work around would be for him to put Jaws into Speech on
demand
with insert+space then s, so unless they know a jaws command to read the
current line or to get it back to full speech, they wouldn't know what to
do.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. you misunderstood the issue. when he presses insert+spacebar and l.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

If you are talking about the message about pressing control, alt, delete to
log on, yes it is shown on the screen.
When I lock my home computer with Windows-Key plus l, when I hit a key, the
password field pops up.
At work, they have it set that you have to press control-alt-delete to log
on and the message is shown as well as spoken.
If he used a password, someone knowing the keys to press wouldn't help them
unless they also know his password.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. he just wants to prevent accidental potential disasters from happening
when he leaves the computer running for a while unattended, in case
something bumps a few keys, curious home members, etc.

does anyone know if this message actually displays on the screen when a key
is pressed after the keyboard is locked? I'm thinking it isn't.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

So, does he not use a password?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

he just tried it but it didn't work. he made the entry in the default
dictionary and even unloaded/reloaded JAWS, and after the keyboard is
locked, the announcement of what to press is still spoken.

how would he split up the announcement as you specified? give an example
using this announcement he doesn't want.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ben Humphreys [mailto:brhbrhbrh@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

Hi Mario,

One strategy is to use the JAWS Dictionary Manager to substitute a space
for
the text that annoys you.

For example, here's one I find annoying and have added to my JAWS default
dictionary:
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource," to ""

When the messages are long, it's most reliable when you break them up into
smaller chunks.

The Speech History command is good for viewing what exactly is being spoken
so you can create a proper substitution in the JAWS Dictionary Manager.

Hope this helps,

Ben

At 12:49 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
my friend is using Windows 10 with JAWS 2018 and locks his keyboard
occasionally to prevent accidental presses of keys while he's not using it
for a while, and wants to know if there's a way to disable/turn
off/suppress
the announcement on what to press to unlock the keyboard.
he looked at the quick settings but didn't find such a setting. he also
disabled the announcement of tutor messages, figuring the announcement
might
be a tutor message, and did unload and reload JAWS, but the message was
still being announced. anyone have an idea?







.




































Re: turning off announcement of...

Dani Pagador
 

On 3/10/19, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@gmail.com> wrote:
When was the speech on demand option introduced? So glad to know about it
now.

On 3/9/19, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@wi.rr.com> wrote:
...Or when in a meeting with Zoom and you don't want to here the
announcements when someone enters or leaves the meeting. Very good.
This
will be usefull to know. Thanks.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

Speech on demand silences Jaws until you press a key combination to read
something specific, like insert+up-arrow to read the current line.
It is useful if you don't want jaws chattering away for no apparent
reason,

or when a screen is refreshing or a ticker item is changing value like
during a download, or when streaming audio.
I use it mostly when streaming audio, especially if I am wanting to
record
that stream and don't want Jaws interrupting.
The command is insert+spacebar followed by s.
The same command puts it back to full speech.

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

What is Speech on demand and when would one use it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against
the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

OK.
I did not know that Jaws command.
I just had my wife check and the text is not on the screen, but obviously
Jaws speaks it.
Anyone can open any program using the mouse or touchpad however, even
though
they cannot type.
So, perhaps a work around would be for him to put Jaws into Speech on
demand
with insert+space then s, so unless they know a jaws command to read the
current line or to get it back to full speech, they wouldn't know what to
do.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. you misunderstood the issue. when he presses insert+spacebar and l.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

If you are talking about the message about pressing control, alt, delete
to
log on, yes it is shown on the screen.
When I lock my home computer with Windows-Key plus l, when I hit a key,
the
password field pops up.
At work, they have it set that you have to press control-alt-delete to
log
on and the message is shown as well as spoken.
If he used a password, someone knowing the keys to press wouldn't help
them
unless they also know his password.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. he just wants to prevent accidental potential disasters from
happening
when he leaves the computer running for a while unattended, in case
something bumps a few keys, curious home members, etc.

does anyone know if this message actually displays on the screen when a
key
is pressed after the keyboard is locked? I'm thinking it isn't.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

So, does he not use a password?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

he just tried it but it didn't work. he made the entry in the default
dictionary and even unloaded/reloaded JAWS, and after the keyboard is
locked, the announcement of what to press is still spoken.

how would he split up the announcement as you specified? give an example
using this announcement he doesn't want.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ben Humphreys [mailto:brhbrhbrh@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

Hi Mario,

One strategy is to use the JAWS Dictionary Manager to substitute a space
for
the text that annoys you.

For example, here's one I find annoying and have added to my JAWS default
dictionary:
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource," to
""

When the messages are long, it's most reliable when you break them up
into
smaller chunks.

The Speech History command is good for viewing what exactly is being
spoken
so you can create a proper substitution in the JAWS Dictionary Manager.

Hope this helps,

Ben

At 12:49 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
my friend is using Windows 10 with JAWS 2018 and locks his keyboard
occasionally to prevent accidental presses of keys while he's not using
it
for a while, and wants to know if there's a way to disable/turn
off/suppress
the announcement on what to press to unlock the keyboard.
he looked at the quick settings but didn't find such a setting. he also
disabled the announcement of tutor messages, figuring the announcement
might
be a tutor message, and did unload and reload JAWS, but the message was
still being announced. anyone have an idea?







.
































Re: turning off announcement of...

Dani Pagador
 

When was the speech on demand option introduced? So glad to know about it now.

On 3/9/19, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@wi.rr.com> wrote:
...Or when in a meeting with Zoom and you don't want to here the
announcements when someone enters or leaves the meeting. Very good. This
will be usefull to know. Thanks.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

Speech on demand silences Jaws until you press a key combination to read
something specific, like insert+up-arrow to read the current line.
It is useful if you don't want jaws chattering away for no apparent reason,

or when a screen is refreshing or a ticker item is changing value like
during a download, or when streaming audio.
I use it mostly when streaming audio, especially if I am wanting to record
that stream and don't want Jaws interrupting.
The command is insert+spacebar followed by s.
The same command puts it back to full speech.

HTH,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

What is Speech on demand and when would one use it?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist

in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

OK.
I did not know that Jaws command.
I just had my wife check and the text is not on the screen, but obviously
Jaws speaks it.
Anyone can open any program using the mouse or touchpad however, even
though
they cannot type.
So, perhaps a work around would be for him to put Jaws into Speech on
demand
with insert+space then s, so unless they know a jaws command to read the
current line or to get it back to full speech, they wouldn't know what to
do.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. you misunderstood the issue. when he presses insert+spacebar and l.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

If you are talking about the message about pressing control, alt, delete to
log on, yes it is shown on the screen.
When I lock my home computer with Windows-Key plus l, when I hit a key, the
password field pops up.
At work, they have it set that you have to press control-alt-delete to log
on and the message is shown as well as spoken.
If he used a password, someone knowing the keys to press wouldn't help them
unless they also know his password.

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

no. he just wants to prevent accidental potential disasters from happening
when he leaves the computer running for a while unattended, in case
something bumps a few keys, curious home members, etc.

does anyone know if this message actually displays on the screen when a key
is pressed after the keyboard is locked? I'm thinking it isn't.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

So, does he not use a password?

Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off announcement of...

he just tried it but it didn't work. he made the entry in the default
dictionary and even unloaded/reloaded JAWS, and after the keyboard is
locked, the announcement of what to press is still spoken.

how would he split up the announcement as you specified? give an example
using this announcement he doesn't want.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ben Humphreys [mailto:brhbrhbrh@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019, 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning off announcement of...

Hi Mario,

One strategy is to use the JAWS Dictionary Manager to substitute a space
for
the text that annoys you.

For example, here's one I find annoying and have added to my JAWS default
dictionary:
"Type the name of a program, folder, document, or Internet resource," to ""

When the messages are long, it's most reliable when you break them up into
smaller chunks.

The Speech History command is good for viewing what exactly is being spoken
so you can create a proper substitution in the JAWS Dictionary Manager.

Hope this helps,

Ben

At 12:49 PM 3/8/2019, you wrote:
my friend is using Windows 10 with JAWS 2018 and locks his keyboard
occasionally to prevent accidental presses of keys while he's not using it
for a while, and wants to know if there's a way to disable/turn
off/suppress
the announcement on what to press to unlock the keyboard.
he looked at the quick settings but didn't find such a setting. he also
disabled the announcement of tutor messages, figuring the announcement
might
be a tutor message, and did unload and reload JAWS, but the message was
still being announced. anyone have an idea?







.
































Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

This article from Adobe, 

Adding alternate text to images | Adobe Indesign accessiblity

, also makes the point I'm trying to make:

"The alt text you entered is included whenever you export this InDesign file as an EPUB, HTML, or PDF document. However, it is not added to the metadata for the image file itself, so you'll need to re-enter it if you use the image in a different document."

Alt-text is not a property of the image file metadata itself as a dedicated field, which makes sense since the same image could be used in a hundred different sites where what the designer wants the user to take away from that image is entirely different.  Alt-text is a property of the object into which the image is embedded, which allows it to be purpose specific.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

I know of no way to add alt text to image files themselves in a way that a screen reader picks up on.  That sort of alt text is a function of the thing into which the image is embedded, such as a Word Document or webpage.

One can add alt text to image metadata, but screen readers do not look at image metadata to decide what they're going to announce for an image.

See:  https://throughmyeyesinclusivedesign.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/adding-alt-text-to-image-metadata/ 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Adding alt tags to images?

ann
 

Hi,

The Alt tags I am talking about are what is seen by any decent modern screen reader when browsing images ont he web. I have an image to upload, and I'd like to add an alt tag to it since it only currently has a Jaws label, wich is nice for my local Jaws and computer use, but probably won't help anyone else much on the web.

So, would Word be the easiest way for me to add an Alt tag to this image that all oculd read before uploading it? Or would some other tool be better?

Thanks for any advice,
~Ann


On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Ann,

            Are you asking about adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft Word?  If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most HTML editors, too.

            If you're referring to something after the fact then it becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Adding alt tags to images?

JM Casey
 

Hi Anne.

It might have something to do with your encoding; I do not see these
characters normally in Brian's messages, but in the one you quoted below
yours, as in, in your response where you have quoted his message, they do
appear.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: March 10, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Adding alt tags to images?

brian,

Is there a way to avoid the  characters
liberally sprinkled through your messages? the messages would be sooo much
easier to read without them.


At 10:24 AM 3/10/2019, you wrote:
Ann,      Are you asking about
adding Alt Text for an image using Microsoft
Word? If so, it's a cinch, as it is under most
HTML editors, too.      If you're
referring to something after the fact then it
becomes significantly more complicated and murkier.--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â

  Explanations exist; they have existed for
all time; there is always a well-known solution
to every human problem — neat, plausible, andd wrong.

     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Adding alt tags to images?

 

Ann,

That's something on your end, not mine, and I have no idea what that might be.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore