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Re: I forgot how to do something
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi again, Jim. Now that I have given you options for turning off Paragraph markers, space markers and New Line in Word, I will tell you how to turn off paragraph markers and New Line in JAWS.
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1. Open Word. 2. Press INSERT plus V to open Quick Settings in JAWS. 3. Arrow down to Editing Options. 4. Arrow down to "New Lines and Paragraphs Indication". 5. Make sure "New Lines and Paragraphs Indication" is Off. 6. If it is not off, Press SPACE to turn it off, then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: I forgot how to do something Hello, I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I don't remember the answer. I was working on a document earlier, and I kept hearing "Space Marker" and "Paragraph Marker" being spoken. Is there a setting to turn this off? Is this a JAWS thing, or is it more of an Office thing? Any help would be appreciated. Jim Portillo
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Re: I forgot how to do something
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Jim. Here are three different methods for stopping space markers and paragraph markers from being spoken.
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Two Alternate Ways To Stop Announcement of Paragraph And Space Markers 1. Press CONTROL SHIFT 8 (on the numbers row. Second Way: Press ALT plus H, followed by 8 (on the numbers row) Third Way To Stop Announcement of Paragraphs And Spaces press ALT, then F for the file ribbon, then T for options dialog. Type D or arrow to select the Display category and press TAB until you get to the "Show these formatting marks" on the screen section. Make sure the following are unchecked (press the spacebar to check or uncheck and continue to TAB to the next setting): Tab characters check box Spaces check box Paragraph marks check box Show all formatting marks check box the last one, the Show all formatting marks check box, is important to uncheck. keep pressing TAB to and SPACEBAR on the OK button. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: I forgot how to do something Hello, I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I don't remember the answer. I was working on a document earlier, and I kept hearing "Space Marker" and "Paragraph Marker" being spoken. Is there a setting to turn this off? Is this a JAWS thing, or is it more of an Office thing? Any help would be appreciated. Jim Portillo
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Re: I forgot how to do something
In which Office application?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Portillo Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 10:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: I forgot how to do something Hello, I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I don't remember the answer. I was working on a document earlier, and I kept hearing "Space Marker" and "Paragraph Marker" being spoken. Is there a setting to turn this off? Is this a JAWS thing, or is it more of an Office thing? Any help would be appreciated. Jim Portillo
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I forgot how to do something
Jim Portillo
Hello,
I know this has been mentioned in the past, but I don't remember the answer. I was working on a document earlier, and I kept hearing "Space Marker" and "Paragraph Marker" being spoken. Is there a setting to turn this off? Is this a JAWS thing, or is it more of an Office thing? Any help would be appreciated. Jim Portillo
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Re: Is This An Office or a JAWS Problem?
Rick Miller
I have received acknowledgement from Freedom Scientific. It is indeed a problem, and Freedom Scientific is trying to resolve it.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Is This An Office or a JAWS Problem?
Hi,
This is a known problem. I have reported it to Freedom Scientific, but had no acknowledgement from them.
I have had acknowledgement though from our UK distributor, Sight And Sound, who confirm it is a problem.
Meanwhile, I have to load NVDA every time I want to create a mailing.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
I am using the latest update to JAWS 2018 and am also using Windows 10.
Ever since I downloaded the latest JAWS update I have not been able to address an envelope using MS Word. The version of Word I am using is Word 2010. Whenever I get into Word I first arrow over to the Mailings tab. When I find it I tab until I hear JAWS say, “Create an Envelope.” I hit the Enter key. The forwarding address dialog pops up. I enter the address. I tab once, but after the second tab I hear JAWS say, “MSO Generic Container.” JAWS will crash, and in order to get it to speak again I have to shut down and then boot up my computer all over again. I tried to address an envelope using an older version of JAWS and had no trouble at all. No “MSO Generic Container,” dialog at all. This leads me to wonder if it is a bug in JAWS’s latest update. I wonder what this dialog even means. Have any of you seen this dialog in MS Word? If so, what did you do about it?
Rick Miller
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List Rules - Sat, 9/1/18
#cal-notice
main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
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**List Policies** 1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated. 2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes. 3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject. 4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind. 5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration. 6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently. As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io James,
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jaws video card and dvd wmp
pmbeardy@...
hello, just wondering if there is a way of watching copy protected dvd's without having to plug in the monitor.
isn't jaws somehow linked to the video card driver to protect it being copied? I wonder how many on this list actually have their monitors plugged in. pb
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Re: jaws friendly file splitter
Steve Matzura
This one's not CLI,but I've been using it for just ever and know it will do what you want. https://www.filecluster.com/downloads/MP3-Splitter-Joiner.html
On 8/30/2018 2:19 PM, Boston, Jason W
wrote:
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Re: accessible password generators
Tom Babinszki
Thank you. I had to reinstall the Chrome extension from the 1password program, now it works, and now all your previous comments make sense.
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On Aug 31, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io <jerry.berrier@...> wrote:
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Re: accessible password generators
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
I don’t recall having a problem getting the secret code when I first set 1Password up, although my memory is rather short. For what it’s worth, from the Windows program, you can copy the code to the clipboard by going to Accounts, then arrow down to the name of your vault. Once in there, arrow down to where it shows part of your code. If you open that submenu, you can copy the code to the clipboard.
My only complaint about 1Passsword initially was that I had trouble finding clear documentation that explained how it works. The info is in the help section, but it took me a while to understand it.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:55 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password generators
So far I found 1Password less than accessible when it came to the getting started part. I was able to sign up for a trial of their family plan no problem, but once I had done this and logged in on myt laptop using Chrome I saw on the site that in order to set up the Windows app and other apps or log in on other computers you had to download what they called their emergency kit which contains a secret key you need for this. No matter what I tried I could not do so, then I asked one of my sighted employees and he said when you click on this link a pop-up appears with a download button. Once he clicked it a PDF downloaded in a second which contained the information needed. I will continue to give 1Password a good try for the next 4 weeks and hope I find it will work better now that it’s set up.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Thank you Gerry. My problem is that I do have an account on a site, but no 1password record yet. Instead of having to type one in from scratch, how can I just go to a site, login and have 1password remember my existing login info? Thank you! Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I have found very few sites where it would not work. Another thing you can do is start logging into a website. When you get to the password field, assuming 1Password is not open already, go to the system tray and arrow down to 1Password. Hit enter. You should be given the option to generate a password. It generates it and puts it on the clipboard. You could then manually create a login record in 1Password and include the new password.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Ideally I'd use iOS and Windows/Chrome. So far I only tried it on Windows, maybe I did go to sites which didn't work with 1password? I did not get any popup once I pressed login. Let me try with a few more sites.
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Re: accessible password generators
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
I just went to a site for the first time in Firefox. It asked for a user name and password. When I hit Log In, 1Password automatically opened and asked for my 1Password login. I entered that and then tabbed to save new login. If that’s not happening, it’s possible your browser extension is not working properly.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password generators
Thank you Gerry. My problem is that I do have an account on a site, but no 1password record yet. Instead of having to type one in from scratch, how can I just go to a site, login and have 1password remember my existing login info? Thank you! Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I have found very few sites where it would not work. Another thing you can do is start logging into a website. When you get to the password field, assuming 1Password is not open already, go to the system tray and arrow down to 1Password. Hit enter. You should be given the option to generate a password. It generates it and puts it on the clipboard. You could then manually create a login record in 1Password and include the new password.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Ideally I'd use iOS and Windows/Chrome. So far I only tried it on Windows, maybe I did go to sites which didn't work with 1password? I did not get any popup once I pressed login. Let me try with a few more sites.
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Re: accessible password generators
So far I found 1Password less than accessible when it came to the getting started part. I was able to sign up for a trial of their family plan no problem, but once I had done this and logged in on myt laptop using Chrome I saw on the site that in order to set up the Windows app and other apps or log in on other computers you had to download what they called their emergency kit which contains a secret key you need for this. No matter what I tried I could not do so, then I asked one of my sighted employees and he said when you click on this link a pop-up appears with a download button. Once he clicked it a PDF downloaded in a second which contained the information needed. I will continue to give 1Password a good try for the next 4 weeks and hope I find it will work better now that it’s set up.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Tom Babinszki
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 1:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password generators
Thank you Gerry. My problem is that I do have an account on a site, but no 1password record yet. Instead of having to type one in from scratch, how can I just go to a site, login and have 1password remember my existing login info? Thank you! Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I have found very few sites where it would not work. Another thing you can do is start logging into a website. When you get to the password field, assuming 1Password is not open already, go to the system tray and arrow down to 1Password. Hit enter. You should be given the option to generate a password. It generates it and puts it on the clipboard. You could then manually create a login record in 1Password and include the new password.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Ideally I'd use iOS and Windows/Chrome. So far I only tried it on Windows, maybe I did go to sites which didn't work with 1password? I did not get any popup once I pressed login. Let me try with a few more sites.
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Re: chrome URL address bar
HH. Smith Jr.
Hi,
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F6 works.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: chrome URL address bar Hi, Alt+D works for me. Or you could use Control+L. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson Sent: 29 August 2018 05:15 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: chrome URL address bar Hello all: What are the steps to land on, or edit the URL address bar as "alt + "d" which "does the trick" while using IE seems to have no effect while in chrome. Sincerely, David S. Pearson
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Re: saving attachments in Thunderbird
Tom <tomcat509@...>
Thanks to those who replied to my query about saving attachments in Thunderbird.
The problem at my end maybe being caused by the remaining attachment extractor add-on although it no longer works. I’ll go into the add-on section and try to remove it.
Cheers Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
ALT + M, H will get you to the attachments "processing" menu for a message. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Jaws command read Outlook message number
Tom <tomcat509@...>
This works for Outlook 13 and so will use this method in future.
Cheers Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2018 1:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws command read Outlook message number
In Ourtlook for me it does almost the same, a say line also speaks the number of the message I am on, just now when I did a say line it read your message, sender, subject etc. and then at the end it said “13 of 15”. The only difference with Jaws+Tab is that is says “List box” before it starts speaking your name, the subject and all that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Hi,
JAWS+Tab just does effectively a Say Line for me.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Make sure your Window is maximized, I am using OUtlook 2016 and both Jaws Key+Tab and Jaws Key+Page Down work and say what they are supposed to say.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Thanks for your reply Steve.
Under Outlook 2013, all I get when pressing insert numpad page down is Jaws saying something about filter applied. Pressing insert Tab does give the number of the current message as well as the total number of messages. Maybe Outlook 13 works differently from version 16.
Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Hi,
Try reading the status bar, with JAWS Key+Page Down on the number pad.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Hi, Using: Latest Jaws 2018, W10 Home 64 bit, Outlook 13
Is there a Jaws command which will read the current message number and or the total number of messages being displayed in the Outlook 2013 inbox?
Thanks Tom
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Re: OT: setting up wi-fi for laptop
Bill Tessore
Thanks gang, I managed to get some help. All is well here now. Thank you.
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On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:49 PM, pmbeardy@... wrote:
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Re: OT: setting up wi-fi for laptop
pmbeardy@...
hi, go to your desktop and hit the applications key. then go into properties then tab over to device manager. enter that tab once more hit "N" for network adaptors. see what cards you have installed. if you don't see "wi fi mini port adapter or something to do with dwxxx802.... depending on your computer." then try doing a "scan for hardware changes" that may bring up the missing devices. goodluck
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 14:32:44 -0700, "Brian Vogel" wrote:
Well, it's not off-topic if you're trying to do it with JAWS. JAWS is useless unless it's being used to do something else as it's whole reason for being. Unfortunately, I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I have ready access to so I can't whip up a set of step-by-step instructions under the dialogs that get used in that version of Windows. It's not complicated presuming that your WiFi itself is already configured, as all you'll do is select the WiFi network and enter the password and you're in. If the WiFi is not configured, then things get significantly more complicated and whoever might be assisting you would need to know about what modem-router model you have in order to set up the WiFi itself. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: OT: setting up wi-fi for laptop
Well, it's not off-topic if you're trying to do it with JAWS. JAWS is useless unless it's being used to do something else as it's whole reason for being.
Unfortunately, I no longer have any Windows 7 machines I have ready access to so I can't whip up a set of step-by-step instructions under the dialogs that get used in that version of Windows. It's not complicated presuming that your WiFi itself is already configured, as all you'll do is select the WiFi network and enter the password and you're in. If the WiFi is not configured, then things get significantly more complicated and whoever might be assisting you would need to know about what modem-router model you have in order to set up the WiFi itself. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: OT: setting up wi-fi for laptop
dramartinez@...
First, make sure your computer has WIFI capabilities.
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Re: accessible password generators
Tom Babinszki
Thank you Gerry. My problem is that I do have an account on a site, but no 1password record yet. Instead of having to type one in from scratch, how can I just go to a site, login and have 1password remember my existing login info? Thank you! Tom
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: accessible password generators
I have found very few sites where it would not work. Another thing you can do is start logging into a website. When you get to the password field, assuming 1Password is not open already, go to the system tray and arrow down to 1Password. Hit enter. You should be given the option to generate a password. It generates it and puts it on the clipboard. You could then manually create a login record in 1Password and include the new password.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Babinszki
Ideally I'd use iOS and Windows/Chrome. So far I only tried it on Windows, maybe I did go to sites which didn't work with 1password? I did not get any popup once I pressed login. Let me try with a few more sites.
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