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Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:50 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
As a sighted person you may tell by looking, but we, the blind, have to tell by vibration.
I actually seldom use anything on the drive itself as far as thumb drives or SD cards go to determine whether a task is finished writing.  Virtually anything where I'm copying, saving, etc., to a drive (be it a HDD or thumb/SD) gives a status that it's done.   Saving something like a word file, unless it were to be a multi-thousand page tome, is always over before you could even move your hand to pull the plug.

I'm not telling anyone that they should not use Eject if they so choose.  But what I am saying is that if you are confident that there is no write activity currently in process for a USB connected storage device that using Eject gains you nothing.  Some will always use it just for the comfort factor, and that's fine.   Just don't panic if you have to pull a drive without being able to do so that you know was not being written to at the time.
 
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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

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Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:46 PM, Bill White wrote:
I have seen SD cards corrupted because someone didn’t use the Safely Remove Hardware option.
Which can only occur if you pull while a write process is active, period, as far as the end-user action being able to cause an issue.  They're not write-cached, either, as they're considered USB devices.  And I just checked that on my own machine, where I have an SD card that I routinely pull without ejecting without any ill effects.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Maria Campbell
 

An external drive is easy to tell if activity has stopped, for ejection purposes, but not other devices, such as thumb drives or the VR Stream.  As a sighted person you may tell by looking, but we, the blind, have to tell by vibration.

  

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 3/16/2019 2:44 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bill White wrote:
Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.
I'm not arguing with anything else but this.   The Eject/Safely Remove Hardware function is an anachronism in all but the very rarest of circumstances.  All the way back to Windows 7 Microsoft changed the default behavior for USB connected devices to stop caching writes, because people were doing "the natural thing" and pulling out jump drives and external USB drives once it appeared all activity had ceased.  The problem was if the last activity had been write, the final block of data might not be written unless you ejected.

I just went through all this in the topic, Ejecting Hard Drives and Flash Drives ....., on Bleeping Computer when it came up the other day.  It won't hurt to use Eject, but it's utterly unnecessary on most systems unless someone has done customizations to go back to write caching for USB devices.  You can verify this for yourself for any USB drive you happen to have plugged in by bringing up its Properties, Hardware Tab, Properties button in the Hardware Tab, General Tab in that Properties dialog, Change Settings button, then, finally, the Policies tab in this final Properties dialog.  The radio button for, Quick Removal (default), will be chosen unless someone has tweaked the Windows installation defaults, and this is described as:  Disables write caching on the device and in Windows, but you can disconnect the device safely without using the Safely Remove Hardware notification icon.

I haven't used the eject function literally in decades provided I know that there is no active writing going on to a given thumb drive or external HDD connected via USB.  It's an extra step that, while it won't hurt, generally does nothing unless you were to be in the process of actively writing to the drive, then the eject will not be permitted until that's done.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Picture smart

Michael Munn
 

You can say that. The picture Smart really did a good job on describing it. 
Thanks for asking. 
best regards 
Michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 6:25 AM James Homuth <james@...> wrote:

In theory, yes, that is if the OCR feature lives up to the hyp. I suppose the only way to know is to try it out.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: March-14-19 6:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Picture smart

 

Hi.

 

As you all are probably aware, a new version of jaws was released yesterday, and I have a question about the Picture Smart feature. Can this make it easier for us to solve those captias we’ve spent years on battling?

 

Thanks.


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Maybe so, but I have seen SD cards corrupted because someone didn’t use the Safely Remove Hardware option. And their system wasn’t customized.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bill White wrote:

Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.

I'm not arguing with anything else but this.   The Eject/Safely Remove Hardware function is an anachronism in all but the very rarest of circumstances.  All the way back to Windows 7 Microsoft changed the default behavior for USB connected devices to stop caching writes, because people were doing "the natural thing" and pulling out jump drives and external USB drives once it appeared all activity had ceased.  The problem was if the last activity had been write, the final block of data might not be written unless you ejected.

I just went through all this in the topic, Ejecting Hard Drives and Flash Drives ....., on Bleeping Computer when it came up the other day.  It won't hurt to use Eject, but it's utterly unnecessary on most systems unless someone has done customizations to go back to write caching for USB devices.  You can verify this for yourself for any USB drive you happen to have plugged in by bringing up its Properties, Hardware Tab, Properties button in the Hardware Tab, General Tab in that Properties dialog, Change Settings button, then, finally, the Policies tab in this final Properties dialog.  The radio button for, Quick Removal (default), will be chosen unless someone has tweaked the Windows installation defaults, and this is described as:  Disables write caching on the device and in Windows, but you can disconnect the device safely without using the Safely Remove Hardware notification icon.

I haven't used the eject function literally in decades provided I know that there is no active writing going on to a given thumb drive or external HDD connected via USB.  It's an extra step that, while it won't hurt, generally does nothing unless you were to be in the process of actively writing to the drive, then the eject will not be permitted until that's done.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bill White wrote:
Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.
I'm not arguing with anything else but this.   The Eject/Safely Remove Hardware function is an anachronism in all but the very rarest of circumstances.  All the way back to Windows 7 Microsoft changed the default behavior for USB connected devices to stop caching writes, because people were doing "the natural thing" and pulling out jump drives and external USB drives once it appeared all activity had ceased.  The problem was if the last activity had been write, the final block of data might not be written unless you ejected.

I just went through all this in the topic, Ejecting Hard Drives and Flash Drives ....., on Bleeping Computer when it came up the other day.  It won't hurt to use Eject, but it's utterly unnecessary on most systems unless someone has done customizations to go back to write caching for USB devices.  You can verify this for yourself for any USB drive you happen to have plugged in by bringing up its Properties, Hardware Tab, Properties button in the Hardware Tab, General Tab in that Properties dialog, Change Settings button, then, finally, the Policies tab in this final Properties dialog.  The radio button for, Quick Removal (default), will be chosen unless someone has tweaked the Windows installation defaults, and this is described as:  Disables write caching on the device and in Windows, but you can disconnect the device safely without using the Safely Remove Hardware notification icon.

I haven't used the eject function literally in decades provided I know that there is no active writing going on to a given thumb drive or external HDD connected via USB.  It's an extra step that, while it won't hurt, generally does nothing unless you were to be in the process of actively writing to the drive, then the eject will not be permitted until that's done.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Mike B.
 


Hi Steve,
 
With all due respect, System Tray icons can be rearranged!  I just learned that the Badges option needs to be turned off and here are my corrected steps:
 
Here's how I rearrange the system tray icons  running Windows 10 Pro Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.379) & all installed versions of Jaws.
1. Windows key + I, for Settings, tab 1 time to System, right arrow to Personalization, and press enter.
2. Navigate to, Taskbar and press enter.
3. Tab several times to, Show Badges on Taskbar..., and make sure this is, Off / unchecked.
4. Tab a few times to, Notification Area, Select which icons appear on the taskbar Link, and press enter.
5. Okay now to put the System Tray in the order you want it in.  Tab through all the icons making a note of which ones you have checked / turned on because you're going to uncheck all of them.
6. Uncheck all the icons.  Now you will go through and check the icons in the order you want them in but keep in mind, they will appear in the reverse order that they are checked.  What I mean is, the 1st one yu check will be at the bottom of the list, the 2nd will be 2nd from the bottom, the 3rd will be 3rd from the bottom etc. etc....  After you're done open the system tray to make sure it's the way you want it and Alt + F4 if it is.
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

You and Mike B have a confusion. You want to rearrange system tray
icons. This is not possible. Mike B explained how to arrange taskbar
icons. This is absolutely possible, with one caveat: Any new program you
run is added to the end of the icon chain appearing on the taskbar. The
only thing you can change is the order of icons that are pinned to the
taskbar, and the only way to change that order is to unpin everything
and pin it back in the desired order. For example, on all my systems, I
have browsers pinned to 1, 2,and 3. Then come my media players on 4 and
5. Any program I open will become position 6. If I open a second program
and close the first, that program I opened which was at position 7 moves
back to 6, and I can't change that because it's not a permanently pinned
program.


Hope this helps.





Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yes, it is, because if you have Show All Icons in System Tray turned off, not all icons show up in JAWS Key plus F11. If you don’t have them show up, and something goes haywire, such as you need the Safely Remove Hardware icon to show up, and it isn’t there, then you must shut down your system to safely remove the inserted hardware.

 

I worked with Mike, and we found out that if Show Badges on Taskbar buttons is turned off, you are able to move System Tray icons by unchecking them, and then checking them again in the reverse order in which you want them to appear in the System Tray. Mike tandemmed into my computer, and was able to confirm that this is possible.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

I'm not even sure what the objective is here. When the System Tray is opened with JAWS Key + F11, you can use first-letter navigation to find anything. Is it that critical to have the icons arranged in a certain order if you're using JAWS?

 

On 3/16/2019 10:54 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

You want to rearrange system tray icons. This is not possible.

That is not technically correct.   I still haven't found a way via the keyboard, even using emulated drag and drop, but it can be done via actual drag and drop.  If something is driving you absolutely mad because it's "too far down the icon parade" on the system tray then if you can get a sighted assistant they can drag it to any position relative to the other displayed icons you wish.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

Steve,

          "Critical" is in the eye of the beholder.   Also, a great many people prefer to use a "screen reader agnostic" access method to the system tray, WinKey+B, then right arrow through.

          There are many roads that lead to the proverbial Rome as far as accessing the system tray.   Some people like to be able to impose a display order for the functions that they intentionally keep on permanent display there.

          I have no opinion as to whether it's critical or not, but the information being shared about what's possible, both via keyboard manipulation or requiring a mouse and sight, should be accurate.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Matzura
 

I'm not even sure what the objective is here. When the System Tray is opened with JAWS Key + F11, you can use first-letter navigation to find anything. Is it that critical to have the icons arranged in a certain order if you're using JAWS?


On 3/16/2019 10:54 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
You want to rearrange system tray icons. This is not possible.
That is not technically correct.   I still haven't found a way via the keyboard, even using emulated drag and drop, but it can be done via actual drag and drop.  If something is driving you absolutely mad because it's "too far down the icon parade" on the system tray then if you can get a sighted assistant they can drag it to any position relative to the other displayed icons you wish.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

 

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
You want to rearrange system tray icons. This is not possible.
That is not technically correct.   I still haven't found a way via the keyboard, even using emulated drag and drop, but it can be done via actual drag and drop.  If something is driving you absolutely mad because it's "too far down the icon parade" on the system tray then if you can get a sighted assistant they can drag it to any position relative to the other displayed icons you wish.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Drag and Drop solved.

 

Not that I'm surprised that some don't know certain keyboard commands for JAWS, as there are so many that I don't think anyone has all of them memorized, particularly the desktop and laptop equivalents of each, but I am surprised that it seems that some are not familiar with the JAWS Documentation webpage.   The JAWS Keystrokes "cheat sheet" is always available there for the latest version in three different file formats, along with a lot of other material.

Toward the end of the page is also a link that allows you to find same for earlier versions of JAWS,  Previous JAWS for Windows Downloads page.
You can go all the way back to JAWS 10 using that page.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: System Tray Icons, How to Rearrange in Windows 10

Steve Matzura
 

You and Mike B have a confusion. You want to rearrange system tray icons. This is not possible. Mike B explained how to arrange taskbar icons. This is absolutely possible, with one caveat: Any new program you run is added to the end of the icon chain appearing on the taskbar. The only thing you can change is the order of icons that are pinned to the taskbar, and the only way to change that order is to unpin everything and pin it back in the desired order. For example, on all my systems, I have browsers pinned to 1, 2,and 3. Then come my media players on 4 and 5. Any program I open will become position 6. If I open a second program and close the first, that program I opened which was at position 7 moves back to 6, and I can't change that because it's not a permanently pinned program.


Hope this helps.


Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Terrie Terlau
 

Mike,

Thank you for this list! Although many of us may use a lot of these commands, there are some in the list that I didin’t know and they will help me tremendously.
Terrie

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop solved.

 

Hi Takis,

 

I hope this will help those that use laptops without numpads.  Here are the numpad keystrokes for laptops without numpads and the URL for many more keystrokes.
 
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/cursorsjawsmagic/02jawsandmagicreadingcommands.htm
 
Some other keys which may be used include the following:
 
list of 7 items
• Numpad or FORWARD SLASH, left mouse button (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+8)
• ASTERISK, right mouse button (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+9)
• NUM PAD PLUS, PC cursor in most applications, Virtual cursor in HTML and PDF documents (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON)
• NUM PAD MINUS, JAWS cursor (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+P)
• NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly, Invisible cursor (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+P  twice quickly)
• Route JAWS to PC, INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET)
• Route PC to JAWS, INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 1:13 AM

Subject: Re: Drag and Drop solved.

 

Please, can someone give me the equivalent command for a laptop keyboard, I mean the substitute for numpad-slash in this case?

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:31 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: Drag and Drop solved.

 

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Mike B.
 

Hi Takis,
 
I hope this will help those that use laptops without numpads.  Here are the numpad keystrokes for laptops without numpads and the URL for many more keystrokes.
 
https://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/cursorsjawsmagic/02jawsandmagicreadingcommands.htm
 
Some other keys which may be used include the following:
 
list of 7 items
• Numpad or FORWARD SLASH, left mouse button (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+8)
• ASTERISK, right mouse button (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+9)
• NUM PAD PLUS, PC cursor in most applications, Virtual cursor in HTML and PDF documents (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON)
• NUM PAD MINUS, JAWS cursor (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+P)
• NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly, Invisible cursor (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+P  twice quickly)
• Route JAWS to PC, INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET)
• Route PC to JAWS, INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS (laptop users: CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE)
list end
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Please, can someone give me the equivalent command for a laptop keyboard, I mean the substitute for numpad-slash in this case?

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:31 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: Drag and Drop solved.

 

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Thanks you very much Heather.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Heather Thomas
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop solved.

 

Hi Pantonop,

Caps lock + number row 8 is the laptop command for left mouse button.

-Heather


On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:13 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop@...> wrote:

Please, can someone give me the equivalent command for a laptop keyboard, I mean the substitute for numpad-slash in this case?

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:31 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: Drag and Drop solved.

 

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


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Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Heather Thomas <heather.thomas@...>
 

Hi Pantonop,
Caps lock + number row 8 is the laptop command for left mouse button.
-Heather


On Mar 16, 2019, at 4:13 AM, Panagiotis Antonopoulos <pantonop@...> wrote:

Please, can someone give me the equivalent command for a laptop keyboard, I mean the substitute for numpad-slash in this case?

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:31 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: Drag and Drop solved.

 

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


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Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Please, can someone give me the equivalent command for a laptop keyboard, I mean the substitute for numpad-slash in this case?

                                                            Thanks,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 9:31 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: Drag and Drop solved.

 

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: picture smart

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Don/all,
You simply need to type the letter f thereafter to start the process of recognition.
Kindest regards,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: picture smart

Running latest version of Jaws on a win 10 system. I go to file
explorer and hightlight a .jpg file of a receipt. I hit insert space
bar followed by the letter p and nothing happens to read the image.
What am I doing wrong?


Re: Drag and Drop solved.

Curtis Delzer
 

I am sure glad it is still supported! that really  does mean more than they realize if someone there thought that control-c control-v or control-x control-v is the same thing or just as good, or even similar when it is not at all. :)

On 3/15/2019 12:30 PM, Bill White wrote:

I was able to connect with Vispero, and found something very interesting. Drag and drop works if one uses the left CONTROL key plus JAWS Key

plus NumPad SLASH. It does not, however, work if the Right CONTROL key is used along with JAWS Key plus NumPad SLASH.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

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Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA