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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

For Windows 7 especially, go into Explorer and disable thumbnails and the preview pane.  You will find not only will it reduce these problems, but accessing files is much speedier.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 March 2019 16:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious.   If a shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent basis, that is my suggested fix.  I get "not responding" not infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to fix it.
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Steve Nutt
 

I hate fast start up with a passion.  It causes more problems than it solves.

 

Especially if you have an SSD, just turn it off.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 March 2019 16:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

And, if you have Fast Startup enabled, you must do a Restart, not a Shutdown followed by power up cycle, to get the computer to reload Windows 10 from disc from scratch rather than using the system hibernation file employed by Fast Startup.

If you don't, then either a Restart or a Shutdown followed by power up will give you a fresh loading of Windows 10 off of disc.
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Re: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

 

There needs to be a clear distinction made here between an electronic signature, which is essentially embedding a scanned copy of someone's signature into a PDF at a specific location, and a digital signature, which has no "looks like a person's real signature" component at all but is generally legally binding.

I've just gone through trying to add both with Adobe Reader DC and have to report that I can find no way to do either with a screen reader.  Adobe has made a massive step back in accessibility with Reader DC.   I must admit, though, that I did not try NVDA's object navigation to try to get to the controls, and that at least has the potential to work, but may not, either.

If you are actually the signatory and want an electronic signature, then I'd strongly suggest that you set up the template you use to create the review in the first place such that your electronic signature is already in it.  If you have control over the electronic copy of the template, as well as the documents generated from it, this is a workable solution.
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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

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Re: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

JM Casey
 

This comes up often, and I still don’t know if there’s a solution. Following mostly out of curiosity.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tele1974@...
Sent: March 4, 2019 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and adobe, adding signature

 

Hello, I have a question regarding using Jaws to add a digital signature in Adobe pdf files.  Can this be done?  At my current job, I review other employees' work, and write up a report which both I and the employee need to sign.  Currently my supervisor has to add the digital signature as Adobe requires the cursor be dragged to where the signature should be.  Does anyone know how to do this using Jaws so I don't have to ask others to help all the time?
Thanks in advance,
Kurt


Jaws and adobe, adding signature

tele1974@...
 

Hello, I have a question regarding using Jaws to add a digital signature in Adobe pdf files.  Can this be done?  At my current job, I review other employees' work, and write up a report which both I and the employee need to sign.  Currently my supervisor has to add the digital signature as Adobe requires the cursor be dragged to where the signature should be.  Does anyone know how to do this using Jaws so I don't have to ask others to help all the time?
Thanks in advance,
Kurt


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
While it may be true that something in Windows is corrupted and in need of some serious repair, File Explorer may be getting bogged down and hanging up especially during occasions when you are attempting to navigate a folder listing very quickly using first-letter navigation.  This used to happen to me on older Windows 7 machines. I’d be in a large list of hundreds of files, and if I moved too quickly using the arrows or first-letter navigation, Windows Explorer would crash and go unresponsive. The solution? Turn off all thumbnails, ditch the preview pane and anything to do with preview handling. Not only did Windows Explorer perform much better with no hangs, I didn’t have to deal with those pesky thumbs.db files which were a pain in the butt whenever I’d try to delete unwanted folders. I’d be willing to bet that doing something similar to what I just described may help in File Explorer in Windows 10, too. Just a hunch. Hope it helps.

Tom


On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

For doing a repair install of Windows 10, follow whichever of the three following instruction sets you prefer.  But, definitely download a fresh copy of both the Media Creation Tool and create a fresh copy of the Windows 10 install media using it.

You should never, and I mean never, use an old copy when it comes to Windows 10.

Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs and User Files

Non Destructive Repair of Windows 10 - Answers to commonly asked questions

How to: Perform a Repair Upgrade Using the Windows 10 ISO file

If, by chance, you want to entirely wipe the slate and start completely afresh with Windows 10, then follow these instructions for:

Doing a Completely Clean Install of Windows 10


A completely clean install will wipe everything, your user accounts, data, and installed programs so make backups and have installers if you want to put same back on the new installation of Windows 10.
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Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,
So i did a windows refresh, and it's working like a champ now, working awesome.

On 3/4/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
For doing a repair install of Windows 10, follow whichever of the three
following instruction sets you prefer.  But, definitely download a fresh
copy of both the Media Creation Tool and create a fresh copy of the Windows
10 install media using it.

You should never, and I mean never, use an old copy when it comes to Windows
10.

*Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs
and User Files (
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/16397-repair-install-windows-10-place-upgrade.html
)

*

*Non Destructive Repair of Windows 10 - Answers to commonly asked questions
(
https://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/31982/Non-Destructive-Repair-of-Windows-10-Answers-to-commonly-asked-questions.html
)

*

*How to: Perform a Repair Upgrade Using the Windows 10 ISO file (
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install-winpc/how-to-perform-a-repair-upgrade-using-the-windows/35160fbe-9352-4e70-9887-f40096ec3085?auth=1
)

* If, by chance, you want to entirely wipe the slate and start completely
afresh with Windows 10, then follow these instructions for:

*Doing a Completely Clean Install of Windows 10 (
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/667627/doing-a-completely-clean-install-of-windows-10/
)*

A completely clean install will wipe everything, your user accounts, data,
and installed programs so make backups and have installers if you want to
put same back on the new installation of Windows 10.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a
well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.*

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore




Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

For doing a repair install of Windows 10, follow whichever of the three following instruction sets you prefer.  But, definitely download a fresh copy of both the Media Creation Tool and create a fresh copy of the Windows 10 install media using it.

You should never, and I mean never, use an old copy when it comes to Windows 10.

Doing an In-place "Upgrade" to Reinstall Windows 10 Keeping Apps/Programs and User Files

Non Destructive Repair of Windows 10 - Answers to commonly asked questions

How to: Perform a Repair Upgrade Using the Windows 10 ISO file

If, by chance, you want to entirely wipe the slate and start completely afresh with Windows 10, then follow these instructions for:

Doing a Completely Clean Install of Windows 10


A completely clean install will wipe everything, your user accounts, data, and installed programs so make backups and have installers if you want to put same back on the new installation of Windows 10.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Bouncing email-

Curtis Delzer
 

you are here, and I hear you just fine, all the time, see? :)

On 3/4/2019 8:46 AM, Marla Bernbaum wrote:
Hello,

I have stopped receiving email from the list and got an email indicating that my emails were bouncing. I responded to that maessage and got a screen that said that my account was "unbounced". I still have not received any emails from the group in the last 3 or 4 days. My email is correct and I am appropriately receiving email from other sources. Is there something else I should do or resubscribe from scratch? Thanks, Marla


Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer

Soronel Haetir
 

Compatibility might not be guaranteed but it has long been a major
concern at MS. Think of how 16-bit programs worked up until the switch
to 64-bit windows, and even then they supported a transition for
awhile with XP mode. And 16-bit programs are far less prevalent than
IE.

Even now IE is an optional feature that has to be enabled by the user
but the MSHTML renderer is not, and it is the renderer where most of
the security issues reside.

On 3/4/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 02:10 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:


Removing IE would break an incredible amount of compatibility, which
for MS is a huge no-no.
But, eventually, it will occur.   Backward compatibility is not, and never
has been, perpetually guaranteed.

For those in the situation your parents are in it would behoove them to seek
out alternatives before circumstances force it.  The writing is on the wall
that IE will eventually be expunged from Windows 10.

Of course, provided one is not connecting to cyberspace, you could use a
Windows XP machine as "command central" for a non-internet-connected LAN for
all cameras in a situation like this.  I wouldn't simply because I know that
eventually I'm going to be forced to change, and probably due to
catastrophic failure of the computer.  I'd rather have control over
necessary change to the maximum extent that I can.

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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer

 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 02:10 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
Removing IE would break an incredible amount of compatibility, which
for MS is a huge no-no.
But, eventually, it will occur.   Backward compatibility is not, and never has been, perpetually guaranteed.

For those in the situation your parents are in it would behoove them to seek out alternatives before circumstances force it.  The writing is on the wall that IE will eventually be expunged from Windows 10.

Of course, provided one is not connecting to cyberspace, you could use a Windows XP machine as "command central" for a non-internet-connected LAN for all cameras in a situation like this.  I wouldn't simply because I know that eventually I'm going to be forced to change, and probably due to catastrophic failure of the computer.  I'd rather have control over necessary change to the maximum extent that I can.
 
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   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

John Covici
 

Take your windows cd, or download one from Microsoft. Then insert the
cd, while still in windows and reinstall windows keeping all your
personal files. This resets a lot of stuff which may have gotten
corrupted. I have had to do this a few times.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2019 12:33:34 -0500,
Mario wrote:

any ideas on how he can repair Windows for both computers other than
running sfc?
it really bugs him when it happens especially when he is using explorer,
the task manager and some other programs.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious.   If a
shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent
basis, that is my suggested fix.  I get "not responding" not
infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task
manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with
Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to
fix it.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

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a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./*

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/






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Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Tom Behler
 

Steve:

 

I have Outlook 2016 and Jaws 2019 here, and have not noticed what you describe.

 

I’m using Windows 10 version 1809 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 3:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Hi all,

 

Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message, pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer

Soronel Haetir
 

Removing IE would break an incredible amount of compatibility, which
for MS is a huge no-no. For example, my family owns a small retail
store with some security cameras installed. The remote access software
for the DVR is served up as an ActiveX control embedded in a web page.
This pretty much means that IE is the only browser capable of
displaying the feeds. Removing IE would thus completely break our
ability to view the cameras from remote locations.

Even worse than removing IE would be removing the mshtml renderer (IE
is basically just a UI wrappr around the mshtml renderer). The edge
renderer can be embedded in .net projects but not code that targets
the native windows programming layer. That is not true of mshtml.

And unfortunately that degree of versatility is both why IE was so
incredibly successful at the time and why it is impossible to fix the
security issues.

On 2/8/19, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
So why don't they just remove it from windows then?
I bet it's still there in the next build!



On 8 Feb 2019, at 23:49, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK:

Stop using Internet Explorer, warns Microsoft's own security
chief

If that doesn't convince people that the shelf life of IE is now expired,
nothing will.

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well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
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Re: The best accessible RSS-reader to Google Chrome with JAWS 2019

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi Again, and thanks for the answer.

One of my friends have problems on his computer, where Internet Explorer not will startup at the time I write you. Therefore I looking after another RSS-reader.

What is the best accessible RSS-reader that I install on Windows itself with JAWS 2019?

Regards,
Anders


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

 

Bill,

           I agree.   I frequently forget that users of assistive technology have the option of availing themselves of Microsoft technical support free of charge, and if you can, why not?  There is the occasional bad tech, true, but when that happens just politely terminate the call and try again.  You're not likely to get the same one twice if calling again right after hanging up.  They've already picked up the next call that was on hold.

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Re: screen shade on by default

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Daniel,
 
The easiest way I found to confirm whether the screen shade is on or off is to go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock + V, if you are using the laptop layout, and in the search field type shade. Next, down arrow once and JAWS should state whether it is checked or not.
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Book: a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the computer repairman!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: screen shade on by default

No, not to my knowledge.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: screen shade on by default

  Hi all,

Just wondering if there is any way to have screen shade on by default in jaws 2019?

Thanks,


Daniel








Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The best way is to call the Microsoft Answer Desk at

800-936-5900

They will do a Windows 10 reload/repair on both computers. This has fixed several problems for both myself and for friends.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

any ideas on how he can repair Windows for both computers other than
running sfc?
it really bugs him when it happens especially when he is using explorer,
the task manager and some other programs.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious. If a
shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent
basis, that is my suggested fix. I get "not responding" not
infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task
manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with
Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to
fix it.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./*

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Re: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

Mario
 

any ideas on how he can repair Windows for both computers other than
running sfc?
it really bugs him when it happens especially when he is using explorer,
the task manager and some other programs.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: major windows 10 problem with jaws, file explorer not responding

"Not Responding" errors are, by their very nature, mysterious.   If a
shutdown/restart cycle clears them, and is not needed on a very frequent
basis, that is my suggested fix.  I get "not responding" not
infrequently, particularly with web browsers, but sometimes with task
manager and file explorer (Windows Explorer in 7 and earlier).

If it's really, really frequent, then something's likely amiss with
Windows itself and repairs to Windows should be done in an attempt to
fix it.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./*

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

 

Hi Steve,

Have you checked if the "Coming Soon" feature in Outlook is turned off?
When you are in your Inbox press the Alt key to bring up the ribbon menu, you should be on "Home", now left arrow twice, here is Jaws History:

I press the Alt key and here this:
Upper Ribbon, Ribbon, Home Tab, Alt followed by H
I press the left arrow once and here this:
Leaving menus, File Tab Button, Alt followed by F
I press the left arrow a second time and here this:
Ribbon Tabs Tab expanded, Turn on features coming soon Button, Alt followed by U

As you can see Alt followed by U is the shortcut, but that will just toggle it and not tell you if it's on or off.
If it says " Turn on features coming soon" then it is off and your problem is a different one.
But if you hear Turn off features coming soon Button checked" then it is on and you can turn this off by pressing the spacebar.
Note that whether you turn it on or off Jaws will focus on an "OK" button and the message which it seems you can only read with the touch cursor is simply this:

You must restart this application for the changes to take effect.
OK

So go ahead and press OK, then close Outlook completely, wait a few seconds and reopen it, now try to see if you can read those fields with the shortcut keys.
I suggest this should be turned off, if it is on you may get upcoming features which could cause issues like this before Vispero and/or Microsoft has time to make any necessary changes.
I certainly also don't have any issues with Alt + 1, Alt + 2 and so on reading the From, To, CC etc. Fields.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi,

Thanks for that. I'm using the same version, and the message is in focus. I can manually tab and shift tab to the info, but it is not speaking with the alt and numbers. The correct script is loading too.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: 04 March 2019 12:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: outlook 2016 and JAWS 2019, seems to be a new bug

Hi bro,
I am using "Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.10730.20280"
I am able to read the sender information with alt and number keys without any issues.
Please verify the focus once the message opens.
if the focus is on the message and if you are not able to read the information with the alt and number keys, then, there might some issues with the jaws.


On 3/4/19, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all,



Anyone noticed with the above setup, that in an opened message,
pressing the alt and number keys, no longer reads the To:, From:, Date
fields etc, instead just saying Unavailable?



All the best



Steve



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