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Re: Help needed

netbat66
 

for jaws i don't think this makes any difference. i have my u a c set on 3 and i have never had it come up when jaws is loaded.
seting it to zero is a bad idea anyway. there have been several times when u a c warned me of malware that wanted to install itself and i was able to prevent it. defender did not catch them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help needed



Hi,

Your User Account Control has been changed. In the “search” area of the start menu type in UAC or user account controls. This will take you to where you can change the slider. Make it 0 and this should end the problem. This is a security feature with Windows. A good one but in the case of JAWS and other programs forces the user to allow the program to run each time it is started.

Hope this helps.



Dan







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Help needed





All of the sudden, every time I launch Jaws, I have to give the bloody User Account Control permission for the Application File for Jaws to run.



Anyone know where in blazes that is coming from in Windows 10 Home 64 bit?



Thanks,

Richard







“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Bill,
 
Somewhere in this thread I thought just the preview pane was asked about and the steps provided should turn the preview pane off.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Hi, Mike. I don’t think this is going to change the auto preview pane in Outlook. It will only change it in Windows Explorer.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi Tom,

 

Below are a few ways of disabling the Preview pane:

From: Mike B.
Here is the solution freedom scientific suggested to fix this problem
Try the following:
1.  Activate windows explore "windows key+e"
2.  Tab to the command module toolbar organize button and hit enter
3.  Arrow down to the layout submenu and and right arrow to open the selections
4.  Arrow down to preview pane and if it's checked here, hit enter to uncheck this item.
 
If it's not checked here, press the alt key to exit the menu with no changes.
Mike
 
From: David
Hello there;
 
Also, Alt + P, will check or uncheck the Preview pane while in a open dialogue box in Word 2010.
David
 
From: Gene
Another list member sent instructions for how to do this, which you may
not have seen.  I'll tell you how this is done in case you missed it.
That's where I learned how to turn it on or off.
 
When you are in a drive or folder, shift tab until you get to a button
that says organize.  You are on a tool bar.  Start right arrowing through
the items in the tool bar and you will get to a check box that says
viewpane.  If it is unchecked, it's off.  If it's checked, it's on.  My
guess is that it is off by default.
 
Gene
From: david
 
1, computer,
 
2, alt+t=tools,
 
3, o=options,
 
4, shift+tab to general,
 
5, right arrow to view,
 
6, tab to the tree-view,
 
7, press the letter s=Show preview handlers in preview pane-On Press spacebar to set to off, Now tab okay press enter.
David
 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Yeah, Bill, I have Outlook 2016 here with Office 365.  This laptop is a windows 7 laptop.

 

Hopefully, there’s another way to turn off the preview pane, so I’ll wait to see if someone else has the correct procedure.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I don’t know. Maybe these instructions don’t work for your version of Outlook.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Bill:

 

In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens.

 

What am I missing?

 

Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

 

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

 

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

 

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

 

Am I not going to the right place?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:22 PM
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hello, again, everyone.

 

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

 

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

 

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

 

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Jaws 19 and the mouse over command

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi John,
 
Yes it is.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Jaws 19 and the mouse over command

Hi: Is the mouse over command in Jaws 19 still Control+insert+enter?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?

 

I believe that the only way Microsoft Edge will start automatically is if you have an account and password set up within Microsoft Edge. Even if this is the case, and Microsoft Edge starts automatically, this should not conflict with JAWS starting at login.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?

 

Listers: Running J2019 and W10 ver 1803.

 

Earlier I posted a message about some problems I was having with J2019 right after automatically loading at start up.

 

Recently, after an W1803 update, Edge has been loading automatically at start up. Could this create a conflict which would cause problems for J2019 loading properly?

 

Also, how does one stop Edge loading automatically?

 

Stan

 


Another Discovered Problem Since Upgrading To Jaws 2019

Tom Behler
 

Hello.

 

Please accept my apology for yet another post to the list.

 

However, I have just discovered another problem since upgrading to Jaws 2019 two days ago.

 

When I read a lengthy e-mail or Word document using the insert numpad 2 command, Jaws will often either cut off a line, or repeat lines.  In other words, the document or e-mail is no longer read through smoothly.

 

What should I be looking at to correct this new issue?

 

I have to say that the upgrade to Jaws 2019 has not gone as smoothly as past upgrades have gone.

 

For the record, I’m using Jaws 2019 and Office 365 on this Windows 7 laptop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: For a friend New desktop computer window 10 Jaws 17

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi,

Possibly because it is not compatible, as others have said. If not that, possibly because it is not activated. I sometimes have trouble here in that JAWS thinks my 40-minute mode has expired even though I have only just started up, which prevents activation from coming up. I would call Technical Support to get this problem resolved as it is a very cumbersome process to try and explain by email unless you know what you are doing.

Basically you would need to use an alternative screen reader and manually run the FS Activate program, which is located somewhere in Program Files.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 10 November 2018 00:28
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: For a friend New desktop computer window 10 Jaws 17

 

Hello All My friend told me she have a new desktop computer with window 10 and using jaws 17 !! She received jaws 17 disc from FS  she installed and download from disc then she noticed when she finish install jaws 17 then it’s ask her to press spacebar to restart computer then jaws never came back on !! She press window r type jaws17 it came on few second it cut off  again  !! Does anyone know why this happening to jaws 17 ?

 

 

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Re: Help needed

Roger Newell
 

Another one to try:
1. Navigate to C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\[JAWS Version].
2. Find the file jfw.exe and press ALT+ENTER on it.
3. Press CTRL+TAB until you reach the compatibility tab.
4. Press TAB until you reach the "Run program as administrator" checkbox.
5. Press SPACE to change the state of this checkbox and press ENTER to
close the dialog.

On 11/11/18, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:
All of the sudden, every time I launch Jaws, I have to give the bloody User
Account Control permission for the Application File for Jaws to run.

Anyone know where in blazes that is coming from in Windows 10 Home 64 bit?

Thanks,
Richard



"Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
pressure." - Bruce U. Utah Phillips





Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Roger Newell
 

I also changed this setting and tried to copy some text from a
webpage, but when I pasted it, nothing had been copied despite JAWS
saying so, so I had to reverse the setting.

On 11/11/18, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Did you have your browser open at the time? You must do this with your
browser to get Virtual Cursor Options.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Yeah, then what? I search for "copy," 0 results, and searching for
"virtual" gave me one unrelated response.

On 11/9/2018 3:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
You press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

And where is that done? I just searched for "virtual cursor" in Settings
and didn't get any hits that sound anything like that.

On 11/9/2018 12:08 PM, Bill White wrote:
Just make sure that, if you're using JAWS, that your Virtual Cursor is
set to copy Full Screen Content, NOT Copy From Virtual Cursor. Copy from
Virtual Cursor will give you only the text. It will not preserve
formatting.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:34 AM
To: JFW
Subject: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

I frequently receive email messages with portions of Web pages copied
thereinto, complete with all elements--links, headings, other
controls--faithfully preserved, but I've plum forgotten how. Someone
please refresh my obviously in-need-of-refreshing memory cells, with my
grateful thanks in advance.









Jaws 19 and the mouse over command

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hi: Is the mouse over command in Jaws 19 still Control+insert+enter?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?

 

I believe that the only way Microsoft Edge will start automatically is if you have an account and password set up within Microsoft Edge. Even if this is the case, and Microsoft Edge starts automatically, this should not conflict with JAWS starting at login.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:04 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: J2019 & Edge starting automatically--in conflict?

 

Listers: Running J2019 and W10 ver 1803.

 

Earlier I posted a message about some problems I was having with J2019 right after automatically loading at start up.

 

Recently, after an W1803 update, Edge has been loading automatically at start up. Could this create a conflict which would cause problems for J2019 loading properly?

 

Also, how does one stop Edge loading automatically?

 

Stan

 


Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mike. I don’t think this is going to change the auto preview pane in Outlook. It will only change it in Windows Explorer.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi Tom,

 

Below are a few ways of disabling the Preview pane:

From: Mike B.
Here is the solution freedom scientific suggested to fix this problem
Try the following:
1.  Activate windows explore "windows key+e"
2.  Tab to the command module toolbar organize button and hit enter
3.  Arrow down to the layout submenu and and right arrow to open the selections
4.  Arrow down to preview pane and if it's checked here, hit enter to uncheck this item.
 
If it's not checked here, press the alt key to exit the menu with no changes.
Mike
 
From: David
Hello there;
 
Also, Alt + P, will check or uncheck the Preview pane while in a open dialogue box in Word 2010.
David
 
From: Gene
Another list member sent instructions for how to do this, which you may
not have seen.  I'll tell you how this is done in case you missed it.
That's where I learned how to turn it on or off.
 
When you are in a drive or folder, shift tab until you get to a button
that says organize.  You are on a tool bar.  Start right arrowing through
the items in the tool bar and you will get to a check box that says
viewpane.  If it is unchecked, it's off.  If it's checked, it's on.  My
guess is that it is off by default.
 
Gene
From: david
 
1, computer,
 
2, alt+t=tools,
 
3, o=options,
 
4, shift+tab to general,
 
5, right arrow to view,
 
6, tab to the tree-view,
 
7, press the letter s=Show preview handlers in preview pane-On Press spacebar to set to off, Now tab okay press enter.
David
 

Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Yeah, Bill, I have Outlook 2016 here with Office 365.  This laptop is a windows 7 laptop.

 

Hopefully, there’s another way to turn off the preview pane, so I’ll wait to see if someone else has the correct procedure.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I don’t know. Maybe these instructions don’t work for your version of Outlook.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Bill:

 

In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens.

 

What am I missing?

 

Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

 

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

 

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

 

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

 

Am I not going to the right place?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:22 PM
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hello, again, everyone.

 

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

 

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

 

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

 

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Did you have your browser open at the time? You must do this with your browser to get Virtual Cursor Options.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Yeah, then what? I search for "copy," 0 results, and searching for
"virtual" gave me one unrelated response.

On 11/9/2018 3:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
You press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

And where is that done? I just searched for "virtual cursor" in Settings
and didn't get any hits that sound anything like that.

On 11/9/2018 12:08 PM, Bill White wrote:
Just make sure that, if you're using JAWS, that your Virtual Cursor is set to copy Full Screen Content, NOT Copy From Virtual Cursor. Copy from Virtual Cursor will give you only the text. It will not preserve formatting.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:34 AM
To: JFW
Subject: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

I frequently receive email messages with portions of Web pages copied
thereinto, complete with all elements--links, headings, other
controls--faithfully preserved, but I've plum forgotten how. Someone
please refresh my obviously in-need-of-refreshing memory cells, with my
grateful thanks in advance.


Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Tom,
 
Below are a few ways of disabling the Preview pane:
From: Mike B.
Here is the solution freedom scientific suggested to fix this problem
Try the following:
1.  Activate windows explore "windows key+e"
2.  Tab to the command module toolbar organize button and hit enter
3.  Arrow down to the layout submenu and and right arrow to open the selections
4.  Arrow down to preview pane and if it's checked here, hit enter to uncheck this item.
 
If it's not checked here, press the alt key to exit the menu with no changes.
Mike
 
From: David
Hello there;
 
Also, Alt + P, will check or uncheck the Preview pane while in a open dialogue box in Word 2010.
David
 
From: Gene
Another list member sent instructions for how to do this, which you may
not have seen.  I'll tell you how this is done in case you missed it.
That's where I learned how to turn it on or off.
 
When you are in a drive or folder, shift tab until you get to a button
that says organize.  You are on a tool bar.  Start right arrowing through
the items in the tool bar and you will get to a check box that says
viewpane.  If it is unchecked, it's off.  If it's checked, it's on.  My
guess is that it is off by default.
 
Gene
From: david
 
1, computer,
 
2, alt+t=tools,
 
3, o=options,
 
4, shift+tab to general,
 
5, right arrow to view,
 
6, tab to the tree-view,
 
7, press the letter s=Show preview handlers in preview pane-On Press spacebar to set to off, Now tab okay press enter.
David
 
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Yeah, Bill, I have Outlook 2016 here with Office 365.  This laptop is a windows 7 laptop.

 

Hopefully, there’s another way to turn off the preview pane, so I’ll wait to see if someone else has the correct procedure.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I don’t know. Maybe these instructions don’t work for your version of Outlook.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Bill:

 

In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens.

 

What am I missing?

 

Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

 

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

 

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

 

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

 

Am I not going to the right place?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:22 PM
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hello, again, everyone.

 

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

 

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

 

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

 

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

Tom Behler
 

Yeah, Bill, I have Outlook 2016 here with Office 365.  This laptop is a windows 7 laptop.

 

Hopefully, there’s another way to turn off the preview pane, so I’ll wait to see if someone else has the correct procedure.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 11:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I don’t know. Maybe these instructions don’t work for your version of Outlook.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Bill:

 

In step 3, when I press Alt O for other settings, nothing happens.

 

What am I missing?

 

Thanks Bill and everyone for your patience.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hi, Tom. To turn off auto preview,

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Press ALT plus V, followed by V.

3. Press ALT plus O for Other Settings.

4. TAB until you see a setting that reads:

 

Auto Preview Off, and make sure it is checked.

 

5. TAB to OK and press ENTER.

6. If necessary, TAB again to OK, and press ENTER.

 

Now Auto Preview should be turned off.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

I just went into Jaws quick settings, and couldn’t find an option to disable phoenetics.

 

Am I not going to the right place?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 7:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

The phonetic thing is actually a new feature. It’s meant to help out folks who may have hearing issues or would like a little more help with distinguishing between letters. This feature is also present in the iOS platform.

You can go into Jaws settings and adjust the delay for when the phonetic pronunciation is spoken or disable it all together.

The other thing, I have no idea.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:22 PM
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Two More Problems With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016

 

Hello, again, everyone.

 

I have discovered two more problems with Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2016 on my Windows 7 laptop.

 

When I use the insert numpad 2 command to read an entire message, Jaws skips parts of lines.  I can read the complete lines by arrowing down through the message, but, as you can imagine, this gets quite cumbersome.

 

In addition, I have noticed that Jaws now gives phonetics for the first letter of a word when I navigate through a message that I’m composing, and I also notice that Jaws sometimes speaks the last character I type again after several seconds.

 

I seem to recall someone else having similar issues but am not sure how or whether they got resolved.

 

Thanks for any assistance.

 

Tom Behler

 


Re: Help needed

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Your User Account Control has been changed.  In the “search” area of the start menu type in UAC or user account controls.  This will take you to where you can change the slider.  Make it 0 and this should end the problem.  This is a security feature with Windows.  A good one but in the case of JAWS and other programs forces  the user to allow the program to run each time it is started. 

Hope this helps.

 

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 3:04 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Help needed

 

All of the sudden, every time I launch Jaws, I have to give the bloody User Account Control permission for the Application File for Jaws to run.

 

Anyone know where in blazes that is coming from in Windows 10 Home 64 bit?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Help needed

Richard Turner
 

All of the sudden, every time I launch Jaws, I have to give the bloody User Account Control permission for the Application File for Jaws to run.

 

Anyone know where in blazes that is coming from in Windows 10 Home 64 bit?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: FW: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

pmbeardy@...
 

hi, try using either the left alt key or the right alt key. sometimes with my computer the right alt key doesn't work using key combos. never could figure out why this would happen but it does.
good luck.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:14:58 -0500, "Tom Behler" wrote:

I'm re-sending the below e-mail history, since I didn't get any more
responses since Rob's original reply.

For starters, I'd like to know how to turn off the preview pane.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: RE: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

Rob:

I can't get F8 to work for turning the preview pane off. When I use the key
command, nothing happens.

Is there another way to do this?

For the record, I have the folder pane set to normal, and the reading pane
set to off.

Once again, I'm using Outlook 2016 with Office 365 and Jaws 2019 on this
Windows 7 laptop.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

try turning preview pane off, f8 i think it is.


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@...]
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2018 2:24 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Anoying Computer Bogging Down Issue

Hello, everyone.

I am not sure if this is totally Jaws related, so please bare with my
question here.

Recently, I have found that my computer boggs down when arrowing down
through a list of Outlook 2016 e-mail in-box messages. I find that, after I
get to approximately the 30th message in the listview, Jaws and my computer
boggs down to the point that I have to wait for one or two seconds to arrow
down to the next message. Right now I have about 45 messages in my inbox.

Has anyone else found this problem, and if so, what did you do to correct
it?

For the record, this problem has only started to occur recently. I'm using
Windows 7 with Jaws 2019 on a business-grade Dell laptop.

Tom Behler




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Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Steve,
 
1. Open the browser and press, Insert / Jaws key + v, to open quick settings.
2. Arrow dow to, Virtual Cursor Options, and right arrow if it's closed.
3. Arrow down a couple of times to either, Select and copy from virtual cursor, or, Select and Copy Full content using onscreen highlight.  Press the spacebar to toggle between the 2, and after making your choice tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements

Yeah, then what? I search for "copy," 0 results, and searching for
"virtual" gave me one unrelated response.

On 11/9/2018 3:30 PM, Bill White wrote:
> You press JAWS key plus V to enter Quick Settings.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 12:16 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
>
> And where is that done? I just searched for "virtual cursor" in Settings
> and didn't get any hits that sound anything like that.
>
> On 11/9/2018 12:08 PM, Bill White wrote:
>> Just make sure that, if you're using JAWS, that your Virtual Cursor is set to copy Full Screen Content, NOT Copy From Virtual Cursor. Copy from Virtual Cursor will give you only the text. It will not preserve formatting.
>>
>> Bill White
>>
>> billwhite92701@...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
>> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:34 AM
>> To: JFW
>> Subject: Copying Portions of a Web Page Preserving Elements
>>
>> I frequently receive email messages with portions of Web pages copied
>> thereinto, complete with all elements--links, headings, other
>> controls--faithfully preserved, but I've plum forgotten how. Someone
>> please refresh my obviously in-need-of-refreshing memory cells,  with my
>> grateful thanks in advance.



Re: Why am I hearing Inverted cap i at 1 and other such distracting things in Jaws 2019

Richard Turner
 

Maybe an example will help explain my question about Jaws saying inverted I in Jaws 2019.

In the Apple devices like iPhones  the operating system is written with a small I and then capitalized OS, but Jaws is reading that as “Inverted cap I at 1 iOS,” when it starts a line.

 

Any ideas what the heck setting is causing this?

 

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Why am I hearing Inverted cap i at 1 and other such distracting things in Jaws 2019

 

In Jaws 2018 I don’t hear things like this in Outlook messages or Word documents.

In 2019 I do.  I imported my settings over from 2018.

 

Any experienced Jaws users have an idea where that might be coming from?

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: SMA vs. subscription pricing model

Angel
 


Many of us have used Jaws for approximately those number of years, already.  I got my first copy of Jaws when I was a telemarketer in 97; and there are those on this list who have used Jaws for a longer time than that.  Judging from their accounts. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: SMA vs. subscription pricing model

Hi listers:

 

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

 

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

 

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

 

Cheers!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Why am I hearing Inverted cap i at 1 and other such distracting things in Jaws 2019

Richard Turner
 

In Jaws 2018 I don’t hear things like this in Outlook messages or Word documents.

In 2019 I do.  I imported my settings over from 2018.

 

Any experienced Jaws users have an idea where that might be coming from?

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: SMA vs. subscription pricing model

Joseph Norton
 

This is true.

 

Again, it really depends on the needs and circumstances of the person who is buying the product.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SMA vs. subscription pricing model

 

Some people have been using  JAWS for nearly that long if not more.  I guess I can understand newbies getting the license rather than the whole program, but the rest of us are better off with the SMA, until it, too gets nixed.

 

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
 

On 11/10/2018 10:57 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi listers:

 

You know, I just took a calculator and compared what it would cost for a home user who was buying JAWS brand new, and keeping an SMA up-to-date, comparing that to the new subscription model.

 

So, if you buy JAWS new, for $900, then, you've got to pay $120 per 2 year period to keep the SMA up-to-date.  Comparing that to $90 per year, from what I can tell, it will take about 27 years before you end up paying more per year for the subscription than you would for keeping an SMA up-to-date.

 

And, will we be using JAWS in 27 years?

 

Cheers!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10