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moderated Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Richard Turner
 

For what it is worth.

Using NVDA is much easier.

Control+t is suppose to toggle the text to speech reading.

Spacebar is supposed to start and stop playback.

With Jaws, it appears that you have to use control+t to also start and stop playback.

If you have Kindle on your iPhone, you can use regular VoiceOver gestures to read the book.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

Hi Takis,

 

Please excuse my ignorance, but once I get to the book title and its chapters, how can I read the book? Should I read it with JAWS, or are they audiobooks? I simply don’t know how to use it.

 

Best wishes,

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

Hi Gezim/all,

If installed, then just go to your download link and press it for the book to download. Then find the kindle icon on your desktop or whatever and press it. You should ideally land on your title, which you can press on. Tabbing once, you will get to the table of contents from where you can select the part, chapter you need. Once you get more books, these will appear and I have found that right-arrowing is more handy then down-arrowing if you have many book, as I do have.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

I installed it both on my iPhone and PC, but I don’t know how to read books at any.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.

Or, search for Accessible Kindle for PC, and install it.

You will need to login with your Amazon account, or create one.

Sighted assistance is helpful for that login screen, as it does not read right with JAWS.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

moderated Re: Accessible VPN service

James English
 

Hello,

Do not, and I repeat do not, use Vypr VPN. If you torrent, it will not
help as they take the copyright holders rights over yours. If you get
locked out of your account, good luck as their customer support has a
captcha. Also, for some reason, the client just randomly (with no
changes being made by me) stopped working on my laptop one day.

- James

On 3/21/20, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@...> wrote:
Thanks James, do you also know anything about VYPR VPN?
TorGuard will help if you are outside a location and you want to
stream something specific to that location, like US or UK TV for
example?
Thanks
Ari



moderated Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi Takis,

 

Please excuse my ignorance, but once I get to the book title and its chapters, how can I read the book? Should I read it with JAWS, or are they audiobooks? I simply don’t know how to use it.

 

Best wishes,

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

Hi Gezim/all,

If installed, then just go to your download link and press it for the book to download. Then find the kindle icon on your desktop or whatever and press it. You should ideally land on your title, which you can press on. Tabbing once, you will get to the table of contents from where you can select the part, chapter you need. Once you get more books, these will appear and I have found that right-arrowing is more handy then down-arrowing if you have many book, as I do have.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

I installed it both on my iPhone and PC, but I don’t know how to read books at any.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Gezim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Downloading and using Kindle books with JAWS

 

If you have a smart phone, the Kindle app works fine with either Talkback on Android, or VoiceOver on an iPhone.

Or, search for Accessible Kindle for PC, and install it.

You will need to login with your Amazon account, or create one.

Sighted assistance is helpful for that login screen, as it does not read right with JAWS.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Gezim Rexha <gezim_rexha@...> wrote:



Hi list,

 

Someone sent me some Kindle books, but I can’t open them, probably because Kindle is not installed on my PC. I would appreciate if you could instruct me ho to download  and how to use it with JAWS 19.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

moderated Re: Accessible VPN service

Ari Damoulakis
 

Thanks James, do you also know anything about VYPR VPN?
TorGuard will help if you are outside a location and you want to
stream something specific to that location, like US or UK TV for
example?
Thanks
Ari

moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Thank you, I will work with this as it is good to be able to find various files.  Again, Thank you. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Searching my computer contents

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:23 AM, Sandra Streeter wrote:

Ctrl-e

That only throws you into the search box if you're in File Explorer, which is not the situation being described.

There are several possible options here.  My preferred one, if you tend to search by file name and file name alone, is to use the Everything Search by voidtools rather than Windows Search.  It's both easier and faster and entirely accessible.

If you wish to limit the native Windows Search strictly to files with a given extension, you can use the ext: operator, so hitting the Windows Key, entering "lion* ext:docx", without the quotes, would return only MS-Word files whose name begins with lion or what contain lion in the file content.  There are scads of different operators, and they can be combined.  See:
https://www.howtogeek.com/school/learning-windows-search/lesson5/
or https://thegeekpage.com/windows-10-advance-search-tricks-cheatsheet/
or any number of other tutorials you can find via web search.  I do not know whether the tables shown in the second of the above tutorials are actual tables or screen shots, but there are many resources regarding the "prefix operators" as I'll call them that limit the scope of the search.  I just found this Microsoft Query Syntax page that gets into the prefix operators you can use.

But, if searching by file name, I prefer Everything Search.  I only use Windows Search when I can't recall part of the file name but can somehow remember something distinctive about the file content.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Microsoft Jessa

 

Richard,

           From what I've been able to find you are indeed correct, at least of this writing.  What's interesting is that Jessa now no longer exists, having been replaced by Aria, and can be confirmed here:  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/speech-service/language-support#text-to-speech

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Microsoft Jessa

Richard Turner
 

With the discussion of the reading aloud in Microsoft Edge, I tried it out and like the voice it defaulted to, Microsoft Jessa.

That apparently is just an online voice and no way to get Jaws to use it.

If anyone knows differently, I’d like to hear about it.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

moderated Re: Accessible VPN service

James English
 

Hello,

Torguard isn't cheap, but it is very accessible.

On 3/21/20, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@...> wrote:
Hi everyone
Using JAWS and Windows, free or paid, I know free there are risks,
but, the VPN services that allow you to choose a country, has anyone
subscribed to any of these and how accessible are they with JAWS?
Do you use their software, and how easy is it to change countries when
you would like to do that?
Thanks very much
Ari



moderated Accessible VPN service

Ari Damoulakis
 

Hi everyone
Using JAWS and Windows, free or paid, I know free there are risks,
but, the VPN services that allow you to choose a country, has anyone
subscribed to any of these and how accessible are they with JAWS?
Do you use their software, and how easy is it to change countries when
you would like to do that?
Thanks very much
Ari

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Leo
 

Hi, I have stated the same, n v d a does not have this problem.


Best,
   Leo
On 3/21/2020 10:53 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

The problem with adjusting the rate is a JAWS problem. It works fine with Narrator.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Dean,

          No surprise there, as there have been many such screen-reader specific quirks in interacting with specific things over the time I've "been in this biz."

          I can and do still highly recommend the Read Aloud extension, though.  It's aimed squarely at the screen-reader using demographic and works beautifully.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Dean Martineau
 

The problem with adjusting the rate is a JAWS problem. It works fine with Narrator.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

Not that I'm discouraging anyone from submitting feedback to Microsoft on this feature, as you absolutely should, but there are also other options now that Edge is Chromium-based and you can use extensions from the Chrome Web Store.

One extension I used routinely with my blind clients is called Read Aloud.  It allows you to assign (or reassign) shortcut keys for many of its functions when it's active and I just tested voice speed with the default voice (and there are multiple options).  It can read at "blind screen-reader user speed" which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

 

That does not work for me and I have also not found a way to change it except that at first I could change it to the minimum (0.5) t the maximum (2) by using Home and End, but I couldn't figure out how to get it back to 1 or 1.5.
Anybody who cares about this should submit Feedback to the Microsoft Edge team via the Help and Feedback option in the Settings menu and ask them to make this accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

is this found in the file menu as read aloud? if so, there is a voice options button. after pressing spacebar, there is a speed slider.
to change it, I pressed alt+right arrow and then right arrow to hear what it changed to. continuing to press alt+right arrow increased the speed from 0.5 (it's default) to 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, and finally 2. it doesn't seem to go higher than 2. clearly Microsoft needs to do some improvement with adjusting the speed slider to make it more screen reader friendly. I don't think pressing alt+right arrow is a standard way of increasing a slider.

if anyone knows more, please do tell.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View Hi all,

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only problem is that it reads at a "sighted person" speed, in other words, painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:23 AM, Sandra Streeter wrote:
Ctrl-e
That only throws you into the search box if you're in File Explorer, which is not the situation being described.

There are several possible options here.  My preferred one, if you tend to search by file name and file name alone, is to use the Everything Search by voidtools rather than Windows Search.  It's both easier and faster and entirely accessible.

If you wish to limit the native Windows Search strictly to files with a given extension, you can use the ext: operator, so hitting the Windows Key, entering "lion* ext:docx", without the quotes, would return only MS-Word files whose name begins with lion or what contain lion in the file content.  There are scads of different operators, and they can be combined.  See:
https://www.howtogeek.com/school/learning-windows-search/lesson5/
or https://thegeekpage.com/windows-10-advance-search-tricks-cheatsheet/
or any number of other tutorials you can find via web search.  I do not know whether the tables shown in the second of the above tutorials are actual tables or screen shots, but there are many resources regarding the "prefix operators" as I'll call them that limit the scope of the search.  I just found this Microsoft Query Syntax page that gets into the prefix operators you can use.

But, if searching by file name, I prefer Everything Search.  I only use Windows Search when I can't recall part of the file name but can somehow remember something distinctive about the file content.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Mario
 

if you know the folder that contains the file that will produce a match for the contents you are searching for, navigate to and open that folder, shift+tab to a search field, and past or type the contents you are looking for and press enter. tab once to the results that will show the most likely matches.

I don't know if there is a more global way.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@...]
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Subject: Searching my computer contents
Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
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moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Mario
 

Sandra, please expand on when exactly control+e is pressed and any info you can add to answer Andrew's question mor thoroughly.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sandra Streeter [mailto:sandrastreeter381@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 11:25 AM
Subject: Searching my computer contents
Ctrl-e

Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind -

(Emily Dickinson)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Searching my computer contents

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center









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moderated Re: Searching my computer contents

Sandra Streeter
 

Ctrl-e

Sandra


The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind -

(Emily Dickinson)

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Searching my computer contents

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center

moderated Re: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View

Mario
 

is this found in the file menu as read aloud? if so, there is a voice options button. after pressing spacebar, there is a speed slider.
to change it, I pressed alt+right arrow and then right arrow to hear what it changed to. continuing to press alt+right arrow increased the speed from 0.5 (it's default) to 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, and finally 2. it doesn't seem to go higher than 2. clearly Microsoft needs to do some improvement with adjusting the speed slider to make it more screen reader friendly. I don't think pressing alt+right arrow is a standard way of increasing a slider.

if anyone knows more, please do tell.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Kingsbury [mailto:davidkingsbury77@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Subject: New Microsoft Edge Immersive Reader View
Hi all,

The new Edge has a very nice feature called Immersive Reader that strips
out clutter on busy web pages for a cleaner read. There is a read aloud
button that reads text out loud with various voices, and this totally
clears out the clutter. Note that this is not a screen reader voice, but
a voice that everybody can hear, and the voice quality is good. Only
problem is that it reads at a “sighted person” speed, in other words,
painfully slow. While there is a left/right slider for adjusting the
voice rate, it does not seem accessible. Does anybody know if there is a
shortcut key that could be used to adjust this voice rate?

Thanks,

David

moderated Searching my computer contents

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hello, with my windows 7 computer, I would be able to press the windows key
and type a search word or string. Now, with windows 10, jpressing windows
doesn't do that. If I press windows key with the letter s, it brings
searching on the web and all kinds of things not on my computer. What is
the proper way to search contents on my computer? Thank you.

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center