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moderated Opening a link that is in a google docs document with JAWS2020

Shai
 

Hello,
I have a google docs document that has links in it. JAWS identifies
these as links but I am not able to interact ie navigate to and access
it.
Is there a means other than downloading the document as a Microsoft
word file and accessing the link in the document this way to be able
to access it from within Google Docs itself?
I only have view access to the file but was able to enable screen
reader mode. I tried pressing tab and also pressing insert with f7 in
the hopes that JAWS would bring up a links list but tab did not do
anything and pressing insert with f7 said that this feature is only
available within a virtual document.
I am using JAWS2020 latest update with Google Chrome browser on a
Windows10 machine.
Thank you in advance for all responses.

moderated Re: QCast?

David Diamond
 

So, how do we get thispodcast player?  Sorry, I tried scrolling down to your message but for some reason I could not. 

moderated Re: Office.com with JAWS

Shai
 

It's in mail options in settings. This article may be of help
although it does not have any keyboard commands. If you still have
trouble, I would recommend contacting the Microsoft accessibility
help. I remember that it was also difficult for me to locate.
Here is the link to the article
https://support.lesley.edu/support/solutions/articles/4000048040-how-to-change-your-office-365-email-to-from-the-light-version
Lastly, the number to Microsoft accessibility is (800-936-5900).

On 3/27/20, Sharon Clark <sharonjackson03@...> wrote:
Hello Shai,

How do I enable the lite version of Office.com?

Thank You,
Sharon



moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Never heard of that addon before. What does it do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you aware that NVDA has an addon called Mozilla Enhancements?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 5:12 PM
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding
Even NVDA is doing the same thing for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it
with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you
have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?































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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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moderated Re: QCast?

David Diamond
 

Q cast?  I thought they shut down years ago. A few years ago I asked multiple times for technical help and got no response.  I suspect they just took our money and ran.   

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Glenn / Lenny
 

And don't reconnect until the auto update is turned off in settings.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding


Try this one.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ef4vpwd7on1yp40/Firefox%20Setup%2052.0esr.exe?dl=0

Remember to disconnect your internet before installing.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes I am uninstalling and reinstalling the same executable. How would I be
able to tell if a file is corrupted?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Are you uninstalling and reinstalling the same Firefox executable? You may
have a corrupted file. Go to Firefox site and get a new download. Save the
executable, disconnect from the internet by removing the plug from your modem,
install Firefox and turn off automatic updates then plug in your internet.



Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not
turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it
reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it
reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10
64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?
















































moderated Re: A couple of Jaws problems

Mike B
 

Hi Dennis,
 
Not sure yet on the delete key,
but, is the script being called by a keystroke or a function?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:48 AM
Subject: A couple of Jaws problems

Hi,

How do I get the Delete key to say “Delete?”

Second, When I put a script in MyExtensions.jss, then compile, then compile the default.jss (since it calls MyExtensions.jsb,) the script doesn’t work.

If I put it directly in Outlook script file, it does.

Other scripts in MyExtensions work, but some don’t.

I’ve made sure the keystroke isn’t being used elsewhere, but still no go.

Any ideas?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Marty Hutchings
 

Try this one.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ef4vpwd7on1yp40/Firefox%20Setup%2052.0esr.exe?dl=0

Remember to disconnect your internet before installing.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes I am uninstalling and reinstalling the same executable. How would I be
able to tell if a file is corrupted?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Are you uninstalling and reinstalling the same Firefox executable? You may
have a corrupted file. Go to Firefox site and get a new download. Save the
executable, disconnect from the internet by removing the plug from your modem,
install Firefox and turn off automatic updates then plug in your internet.



Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not
turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it
reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it
reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10
64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

David Griffith
 

As far as I am aware I don’t have any problem accessing preferences in VLC with either Jaws or NVDA. I just hit control P and tab through the  options.

It may be that there are parts I am missing that I  am not aware of though? What is the problem for you?

I have resisted upgrading to the absolutely latest version  of VLC I am still on 3.0.7.1.

I am glad others are still having a good experience with WinAmp. For me on several Windows installs on both my Desktop and Laptop I was experiencing lockup and crashes apart from the problem not playing some modern radio streams which VLC seemed to have no problem with. This experience made me personally think it was time to move on to something that was still being developed and supported.

David Griffith


David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 27 March 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah  there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

 

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith

Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

 

There are masses of keystroke  which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts  providing information.

 

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

 

As a guide to  what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

 

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

 

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10,  and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

 

David Griffith

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54

To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

 

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Office.com with JAWS

Sharon Clark
 


Hello Shai, 

How do I enable the lite version of Office.com?

Thank You,
Sharon

moderated Re: QCast?

David Griffith
 

I think the best Podcast App for Windows is Speak On Media Suite. It has certainly been fuller featured than QCast for years.

 

I confess an interest as I am nearing the end of making a Podcast series on Speak On – ironically I was recording the first part of  the 9th Podcast on the range of features in Speak On  today actually focussing on the app’s abilities as a Podcast Reader.

This should be ready in the next day or so.

It actually has 3 Podcasts apps within it application.

  1. Tunein Radio – if you have a free or paid Tunein account you  can search all the Podcasts and downloadable Radio Shows within  Tunein.  As well as streaming from Tunein you can download all downloadable content as well.
  2. The Main Podcast app – here you can search for Podcast in the normal way as in QCast.
  3.  However in addition you can also browse  a library for suggested other Podcasts. It is effectively a BBC Sounds app for example with Podcasts from all the BBC Stations. It also has categories from for example 50 most popular Podcasts etc. Of course you can also import and export OPML file of podcast or individual Podcast feeds from the web.
  4. There is also an optional VI Podcast app plugin which you can download and install from within the program which provides  a categorised  array of pre-selected specialist community and commercial Podcasts targeted at Visually Impaired users.
  5. All the Podcast apps allow on the fly adjustment of volume, audio playback speed and navigation via hot keys. Podcasts can be bookmarked and there is an auto resume feature which will always take you back to the place you left off listening to  a Podcast after you have shut down and re-started the program.

 

The Suite also has what is, as far as I am concerned by a country mile the best featured ePub Book reader,  far more featured than QRead, an Audio / Daisy Book app which again I think is the best featured audio book player. It is my preferred Audio Daisy Book reader more than FS Reader  but it does not support text based xml formats.

It also has a CD app for playing Audio and Daisy Audio CDs and also includes a full featured Music player.

If you are in the UK it also integrates directly into the RNIB Newsagent service for downloading Newspaper and Magazines, again via an optional additional app  Plugin downloadable within the app itself.

As well as Tunein Radio there is a specialist optional VI Radio app and also in one of my Podcasts I show how the Other Media app can also be used as a third  Internet Radio app using a downloadable Internet Radio folder playlist structure.

It is very full featured I am constantly astonished at how little attention it has garnered over the few years. This is why I have  been doing the Podcast series over the last few months demonstrating the capabilities of the app.

The main obstacle people tend to have is that the app is self voicing and uses eSpeak as the default voice on install. However I show in my first Podcast this can easily be changed to a Sapi 5 voice to make the app sound far more friendly. There are a few other aspects of the app which take a little getting used to, the main one being that the confirmation OK or cancel options are in the alt based menu system rather than buttons on dialogues boxes. This is fine once you get used to it however.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ann
Sent: 27 March 2020 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: QCast?

 

Hi,

 

 

 For years, I have used the QCast program to download or play podcasts,

but although I was able to install and even activate it, it either won't

download podcast episodes or in many cases won't even add the podcast at

all.

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions or a suggestion for other programs?

 

 

Thanks,

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Yes I am uninstalling and reinstalling the same executable. How would I be
able to tell if a file is corrupted?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Are you uninstalling and reinstalling the same Firefox executable? You may
have a corrupted file. Go to Firefox site and get a new download. Save the
executable, disconnect from the internet by removing the plug from your modem,
install Firefox and turn off automatic updates then plug in your internet.



Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not
turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it
reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it
reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10
64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Mario
 

are you aware that NVDA has an addon called Mozilla Enhancements?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 5:12 PM
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding
Even NVDA is doing the same thing for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it
with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?































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How do
you spend it?

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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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.

moderated Re: Zoom and Skype scripts?

Lino Morales
 

                                Zoom scripts are already encluded in JAWS 2020.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom and Skype scripts?

 

Doug Lee has several flavors of Skype scripts on his page;

https://www.dlee.org/

 

Jonathan Mosen has made his audio tutorial for Zoom free and he also has a link on his page to get the basic zoom scripts free.  Here is the link to the page where you can get the audio book followed by the link for the Zoom scripts.

https://mosen.org/zoom/

 

Hartgen Consultancy have produced free JAWS scripts which enhance the Zoom Cloud Meeting experience even further. Download the free JAWS scripts.

http://www.hartgen.org/zoom

 

 

We wish you health, safety, and very frequently-washed hands during these challenging times.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:46 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Zoom and Skype scripts?

 

I think I heard or read somewhere that there are scripts for the Zoom conferencing Program? And Skype ones? Thanks for info.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

JM Casey
 

You can, yes, although virtual buffer in JAWS for instance is supposed to circumvent this and usually does, but of course copying that way, you lose formatting and other stuff. Good enough for me to get away with it sometimes, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: March 20, 2020 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

That could potentially be simply because the website doesn't let you copy anything. I am not a web developer, but I believe you can make it so copying just doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I agree, this step will solve most problems copying passages from webpages while using Chrome. However, I have encountered several websites where I can't copy anything while using chrome. The Washington Post comes to mind, as does the Guardian. I can select text, but nothing happens when I press control-c. In the applications menu, "copy" is greyed out. In these cases, I have to open the same page in another browser, usually IE11, and make the copy there.

A fast way to get to the "copy" option in the JAWS quick settings menu is to type "copy" in the edit field when settings opens.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

Hi there. If you are in Chrome, you will want to change the following setting. Press Insert plus V to access the Chrome Quick Settings. In the search box, type copy. Use the arrow key to find the option that says copy find the options. If it is set to copy content from screen, hit your spacebar once. The option will change to copy from virtual cursor. Use the tab key to move to the OK button and press enter. See if this resolves your issue. Good luck!

On 3/20/20, Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:
I do not know what the processes for non-US users to engage with support.

Also hopefully you’ll have better luck than I do. Every time I called,
they tandems into my computer and all of a sudden the copy started to work.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@...>
wrote:

Can I call them outside the US? I am willing to do it even now.
BTW, a funny thing has happened. Your message said something along
the lines “We can only report it to support”, right after my TTS
finished reading it I heard a message from Outlook: “Not available
outside the open message”

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I agree. Only thing we can do is keep reporting it to support.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@...>
wrote:

I don’t like it, honestly. Is there anything we can do about it?
That’s a basic thing that should be fixed.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I have the same issue with Firefox.
Think this is a known design flaw with jaws, which they have not been
able to fix.
Would suggest calling support to see if they can provide any help.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
wrote:

Hi list,
Sometimes when in Chrome, I cannot copy the selection to the
clipboard. It happens only with JAWS, and only with Chrome. What shall. I do?


moderated QCast?

ann
 

Hi,


 For years, I have used the QCast program to download or play podcasts, but although I was able to install and even activate it, it either won't download podcast episodes or in many cases won't even add the podcast at all.


Anyone have any suggestions or a suggestion for other programs?


Thanks,

~Ann

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Marty Hutchings
 

Are you uninstalling and reinstalling the same Firefox executable? You may have a corrupted file. Go to Firefox site and get a new download. Save the executable, disconnect from the internet by removing the plug from your modem, install Firefox and turn off automatic updates then plug in your internet.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not
turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it
reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it
reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10
64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Even NVDA is doing the same thing for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it
with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Chris
 

Remove the profile folder under appdata then fire up firefox and if that doesn’t work nothing will

 

 

From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 27 March 2020 20:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

I tried that, and it still keeps hanging on upon reinstallation.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: John Covici <covici@...>

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you

have to buy it.  I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,

Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> Leasey? What's that?

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John

> Covici

> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> Do you have Leasey installed?

> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,

> Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> >

> > What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that

> > when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.

> > I press

> > Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS

> > can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I

> > Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I

> > press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has

> > stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it

> > still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is

> > checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been

> > happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen

> > Firefox, the

> whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list.  each method

> > works differently.

> > there is control shift b,  this one closes the list as soon as you

> > press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.

> > control i opens the  entire list of links and you have the option to

> > search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again

> > with

> control i.

> > but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the

> > bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or

> > browse mode for window eyes.

> > also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the

> > bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to  put focus

> > back on

> the list.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B.  What

> > does

> > Control+I do?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > one thing  with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control

> > i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a

> > minute before speech will come back.

> > it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main

> > point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In

> > fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on

> > the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not

> > responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until

I exit Firefox.

> What's up with that, I wonder?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.

> > a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.

> > but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet

> > connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM

> > To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'

> > Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > Yes indeed I did.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?

> > if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.

> > you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off

> > automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i

> > think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> >

> > This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with

> > Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my

> > Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it

> > was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries

> > updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've

> > turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> --

> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

> How do

> you spend it?

>          John Covici wb2una

>          covici@...

 

--

Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

How do

you spend it?

 

         John Covici wb2una

         covici@...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























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